Been a heating engineer for about 10 years. only watched out of curiosity but great video. nice to see what plant other people are using. keep up the good work
Brillitant. Really informative. I've got a really old and very noisy boiler with single skin radiators with cold spots. I have bled them but having seen this I am definately going to get the system power flushed. Thanks again.
This heating system had been piped in ten mm with a 2 meter flow and return from the boiler in 22 mm down to 15 mm then 10mm through out the house , you can power flush from a radiator using the adapters from the manufacture as per manufacture instructions and guid lines , it is important to use an inhibitor after to Prevent this from re happening and you will need to vibrate the radiators this will help a lot in flushing , for all the keyboard warriors who try and leave comments saying the general public shouldn’t see this ? I ask why it’s not a skilled job and you don’t have to be gas safe ?? Also if your a professional why are you watching how to do it videos on UA-cam ??? I didn’t because I did the course maybe it’s because I’m the professional qualified plumber ? Just saying
my house was built 15 years ago, small 3-bed detached, cheap Glowworm/Jaguar/Protherm combi boiler, plastic piping, 3 rads upstairs, plus towel-rail, 4 downstairs. At least 1 rad is cold to halfway up. I'm going to get quotes (Leics area) but here's the question - what difference does it make since pipes are plastic, boiler is combi, so rad system is sealed (with bypass from cold to fill) ?
@@flash3168 - no ,other way round, cold at bottom, hot at top. I've had trouble with the diverter unit, replaced by plumber 5 years ago, had to do it again myself 3 years ago (recon swap on ebay), did it again myself 1 year ago (using kit on ebay). Very bad limescale (?) inside the diverter each time. That's the only trouble I've had in 15 years since buying house (new build), not been touched at all otherwise As I say though, plastic pipes, combi sealed system, does it make a difference to how it will be flushed ?
Fred Overton nope as the video shows it on a sealed combi look on eBay for a cheep machine use fernox f5 and dose it a week before with fernox f3 flush it then sell the machine back on eBay you shouldn’t loose much or look in to hiring one ? But defo use f3 before and don’t forget to use f1 inhibitor all cheep on eBay
@@flash3168 brilliant, thanks. Already familiar with the diverter and water pipes in the boiler, but wasn't sure on whether to DIY a system flush, but I think I will now (using rad in hall by front door). I presume I'll have to use the system filling tap quite a bit ?
I’m surprised the radiator that he removed and placed upside down by the gate wasn’t nicked by the scrap collectors while he was in the house!! Just imagine finishing the flushing job and then having to explain to the customer that they need to purchase a new radiator!! Ha ha.
Where i live the rad would have disappeared in minutes, then the pump he left outside the front door, meanwhile the CAT would be being cut off my van and my van door caved in and my tools all knicked.
Just fit a magnetic inline filter on the heating return .use a chemical cleaner flush/fill about 4 times . bang on rads with rubber mallet .Put inhibitor in . fill , bleed and balance .£40 materials for a 4 bedroom house max and a easy days work . might be finished by lunch !
Ha ha not quiet but good luck it can only help dose it with a good chemical days before but if your not getting a flow to the radiator you won’t clear it that way
@@flash3168 They are just using big magnaclean units .So just ramp up the pump speed and flush as much out as possible using normal pressure .Powerflushing can blow pipes and flood homes
Ok 👌🏻just so you know I’ve never had a pipe burst with a power flush though and I do a lot .also a heating pump actually circulars not pump and doesn’t move volume of water under pressure like a power flush machine which does this at 150 litres a minute also a heating pump only goes one way as a power flush machine can alternate? But I’d be interested to see if your way works though . And what was it’s tdi measurement before and after with a thermal survey because that would be interesting to see if It did anything , cheers in advance 👍
@@flash3168 what about leaks at joints? I want to get a power flush but a lot of my pipes are hidden or in concrete floors so I’m put off by worry re joint leaks. Am I worrying unnecessarily?
@@alanspence1716 hi I’ve done hundreds never had a pipe burst or a leak , but if you did get a leak it means you had a problem in the first place or it was always going to happen at least this way you would be prepared rather than Sunday night on Christmas Eve etc , I’ve never had a leak and I’ve been doing this for years and years hope his helps buddy
Not hating, these are genuine questions - Do you flush the rad you removed/does it need flushed? Also, if you have a double panel radiator, do you need to agitate the back panel too, if so, how do you do that?
Thanks for the video! Does the cleaner liquid clean the sludge from the radiators and also descale the heat exchanger or are they two separate compounds? Is there any chance of damaging the heat exchanger using such a high flow rate? How long does the cleaning have to run to ensure the heat exchanger has been cleaned. What's the point of the magnets if you're still dumping dirty black water?
Really informative video. Having a new boiler fitted soon and now I know what to expect from the power flush. Our radiators have thermostatic valves (except the one next to the front door). Under-floor pipes are plastic too (20 years plus old). Does that make any difference to the procedure?
I have used a descaling pump with a light acid called altrans in my system in theory if you use a inhibitor in the heating system limescale and rust would not occur until you introduce fresh water into the system withought using inhibitor.
What if i just stick a really strong magnet onto one of my small rads, run the heating for an hour then it'll collect all the crap there. Take the rad and flush out with your hose pipe in your garden, that's if you have a garden, if not just use your neighbour's garden they won't mind.
chmoduk hi it won’t work as you won’t have the flow , radiators are cold with no flow and you won’t be able to go return to flow flow to return to clean the pipes . Good ideas though
@@harunyahyadotorg a bit of low will help but this machine will make it flow with the right Chemicals and some heat and a old fashioned bit of patience 👍 that’s what they where made for got me out of the brown stuff lots of times
Flash, you know how to do a proper and THOROUGH flush job. I have watched your video several times and try to observant. What I have noticed is your cleaning machine is Pumped as well as Magnetised. The Magnaclean and other system cleaning kits, rely on the heating system pump to move the sludge, Debris and Magnatite. Whereas the kit you use uses utilises its own PUMP and TWO BIG Magnets as well!!. Now, I would like to ask a few questions to you, Please?. 1, How much more efficient is your kit pump over a central heating one? . 2, Does your kit heat the system to aid further in cleaning?. And lastly what is the name and model of your kit, cos if I need this sort of job doing to my system and Your kit seems to do a better job over just Magnets alone?. Many Thanks in advance, Leon. :-)
This pump pumps 150 litres a minute that’s 1000x better than the circulator on the boiler people call a pump , you can run the boiler at the same time so there is your heat and the magnets are amazing , it’s from Nordstrom and will set you back £2500 plus’s depending on what attachments you want to use a power flush will cost from 360-600 depending on the size type of heating you have it’s always best to use a professional in case things go wrong , but I do recommend that machine I’ve had a few and his is the best I’m on my second one because I use it that much , hope this helps
@@flash3168 Thank You for your return message. Wow! £2500, that is some big bucks. I think it would be better to get someone in to flush them for me. I now have another question for you, please?. Do you know of/ recommend a pumped kit that is one fifth of the Nordstrom , that can do an acceptable job, for a DIY'er like me?. Once Again, Many thanks, Leon. :-)
How much would this cost ? Our engineer is trying to get us to hav a power flush but we don't hav problems with the rads , no cold spots no repressureing ever needed . He advised us several years ago to hav a fernox magnet fitted which we did and which I clean regular, we had a descale of the plate exchange but every now and then the water goes hot then cold ! Just really want to make sure he's not pulling a fast one as he's had 1000s off us over the years . Great vid by the way
trev815 Hi it depends on the size and type of radiator the size of your house type of system ie combi back boiler system boiler , the age of the boiler etc If your radiators are hot about 58-80 degrees and you have no cold spots no noise and your fern ox filter is relatively clean you have been using inhibitor you shouldn’t kneed one but it’s hard to comment on I don’t know the history of your heating etc I ruff guess would be £340 but regions carry different prices ie Hull would be cheaper than London
flash3168 it's a glow worm 24cxi , we hav had 2 heat exchangers over the last 7 years and even after having a combi mate and fernox magnet fitted some years ago he's telling us we need another! I have put some cleanser in the system which has helped the exchanger but shelling out £550 for a flush just seems wrong when we hav no heating issues !? All rads are far to hot to touch when on , typical 3 bed semi with 4 single not very big rads upstairs and a tawel rail and 2x3 foot double rads and a 6 foot double in conservatory . Hard to trust what you're being told !! Thanks 👍
trev815 what’s its TDS ? Are you in a hard water town ? Look out side at your prv if it’s been running as quiet commonly people forget to install the flexi hose on the expansion vessel and if the filling loop is passing you may not know ? If your engineer has solved all your problems in the past and seems confidant and professional why not trust his word ? I’d get a second opinion of a recommended engineer and see what he says
flash3168 no idea on the tds, prv looks fine , yes unfortunately we are in a hard water area . He used to be quite small and now he has expanded a fair bit seems to be more about the money than the service , most problems we hav had could hav been avoided had he of told us the preventative measures the first time around not the 3rd . Will look into a second opinion thanks .
Gosh. I’m amazed by this. How much do you think roughly... I know you cannot say definitely... a one bed flat with 3 big, one midi, one bathroom towel rail radiator should cost? Is there a price that you’d say was too much?
And that cleaned the pipe work out and the heat exchanger on the boiler. ? Or did you just buy yourself a new car and fill the engine with the old oil from your old car and now waiting for the day you need to call the aa lol
Hi have been in the property for about 20 years. Had our extension done. New boiler radiators fitted in our new extension. Only the new radiators get hot all others don't really get hot. Iean they do but Very mildly hot and they dont even make thw room hot. Very small amount of heat. What can i do. Please help
Gen Me His trays were on the floor which stopped the door hitting the wall. Not sure how you expected him to open it slowly with a finger in either end of a rad full of water. Can't see he did anything wrong with the plant pot, he moved a bit of broken plastic with his feet because he didn't have any hands free.
you move the potted plants out the way before you start instead of dragging hoses over them and you also remove the drain cover before you start so you don't have to kick it off with a radiator in your hands, simples, nice machine though.
When power flushing the system do you use the water that's already in the system...I'm just confused.. if the house was fed from a small tank in attic dose this need to be blanked off and when u dump to drain does the system need topping up while power flushing..thanks...great video by the way
Alan Molloy do you have a gravity system ? A header tank if that’s the case you need to blank the vent and the draw off empty the full system and fill up with a hose pipe from the powerflushing machine dumping as you go
Yes that's what I have man...thank you for your reply.. was thinking about buying a machine but can't really find a supplier for them in ireland...thanks again man
Heswall Cheshire And the power flush machine takes over the pump , pumps aren’t that expensive to replace depends on the boiler but I’d go in through the pump to flush it if I’d had to replace the pump anyway it would be easier
Dan H yes but if you have a old boiler and can’t afford to swap it it will fix any overheating and blocked heat exchanger or cold spots on your radiators
I’m nearly 40 and never talked in gallons, 10 gallons per minute from 15mm tap, The Fire Brigade would be using it to fill the truck 😂 at Mrs Jones house
James Julian lol no we use gallons quiet a lot with our drain jetter which is 300 psi 10 gallons per min , must have been thinking of that at the time 😂 I tell you what if I could make a boiler hot water run at 10 gallons I’d be in demand 😂🤣
Why not just bleed the heaters if you have a water drain pipe to front of your house or just a drain pipe if your pipe is inside? Why take all the heaters off Why?
786qad because my learned friend we are not taking off all the radiators (heaters) and what your suggesting is called a drain down which empty’s water from the system ie to work on pipe work or to protect from frost in a void property , a powerflush cleans the radiators removing the sludge that won’t just drain down ? Hence the whole reason of showing you the video ???
We have micro bore pipework can a power flush be done on it. Already have a magna clean in the system been in for about 7 years now all working fine boiler still runs at 95% efficient so this is just a query really as going to flush system and renew the inhibitor.
Glenn Pearce Are all the radiators hot ? Is it working and have you keep replacing the inhibitors every 3 years or every time you drain down then you don’t need one And yes powerflushing can be done on 10 mm that’s why it was invented as 10 mm is the worst for blocking unless you look after it by inhibitors etc
Lee Pulham ? I’ll take them home next time in my flask for later ! The chemical is for flushing and won’t hurt any polar bears and can go down the grid , 🤣
Buggs Bunny it’s not a rain water my lover it’s foul waste the kitchen sink is connected we don’t have many grey water systems as houses tend to be around 80-130 years old around her but do send my regards a to United utility’s is I do quiet a lot of drainage works for them 😂
dirty girl it depends on how many radiators how big they are are the double convectors is it s closed system or open vented and how bad it symptoms are ie does the boiler work etc and where you live or hudesfield is poor area so it would be lower than London a rich area ? Try getting 3 quotes and go with the one who you trust it may not be the cheapest ?
Where’s there aluminium in a system it magnetite is iron from the steel called iron oxide and who uses stiltsons to hold the rad valve also that second rad valve moved need be more careful with them hoses other then that good job 🤣
Svetlin Yordanov out side your mums bedroom window 😂 no joking aside we don’t just do domestic work we do commercial and that’s why we have ipaf thanks for watching hope the video works
By the time you've farted about putting your drill on the outside of the radiator to try and release sludge, connected up the machine outside etc etc, I could have had the radiator drained down, taken off and be flushing it through outside with a hose. The latter of which will do a far better job individually flushing out each radiator with a hose than any machine or drill will do on the whole system.
No you wouldn’t do a better job ? You need heat and chemicals also pressure to clean it ? Some times I can’t understand why you people bother commenting , your obviously an not a plumber or you would understand how to clear a blockage in pipe work or the heat exchanger on the boiler ? Will your hose pipe do that 😂 and of course de scale the plate heat exchanger ? Answer no ? That’s why your watching videos to learn how to do it ? , I wish you the best with your garden hose , good luck 😂😂😂
Dr. Scott-Arthur ha ha I’ve just re read what your saying , you recon draining down a dozen radiators some which would be doubles and over 1200 long ie heavy buggers ,and then carting them down stairs full of black muck emptying them out side then using a garden hose 22 letters tops pressure otherwise it 12 litres or less per minute compared to a powerflush machine which is 150 litres per minute is faster all you have to do is remove just one small radiator and you can flush each radiator in turn and the boiler and the pipe work and the pump and any motorises valves and a much much better job 😂 I don’t think you are a real dr ? As it’s my understanding that dr are cleaver 😂😂😂, that would be like using a plaster to stop someone who has cut there arm off from bleeding out ? ( ie useless and a waste of time 😂😂😂😂) I thank you for your interesting point of view if anything you have entertained all of the boys on the night shift here on what would have been otherwise a dull night 👍😂
@@flash3168 I wasn't disputing that you shouldn't power flush out the boiler, heat exchanger etc. I can see the purpose of that. The point I was making is that what you can do with the rad off the wall is superior to leaving it on the wall. This is because with a garden hose you can flush it out from a variety of angles, on it's side, upside down etc. Whereas if it's plumbed in to the heating system you can only flush it level which won't dislodge sludge as well as being able to move the radiator as you flush it.
I’m a plumber and what you’ve shown people is a sealed system and a combination boiler ,shouldn’t you let people know on an open vent system you need to put a cap off on the vent ?
paul adams no I’m not teaching people how to do it ? And you shouldn’t cap off the f and e you join them together , and if your s plumber why are you watching this ??? Just saying ! This isn’t a training video if you want to learn become a plumber !
paul adams sorry mate I didn’t mean it to sound like that you are right about open vented but try joining the vent to the draw off it works well on the flush , I’ll try and do a video on one and post it up
No probs mate but if people have an open vent system and do what your doing in the video the overflow in the header tank won’t cope and it will overflow , wasn’t trying to be clever just trying to stop an accident that will envitably happen , good luck mate 👍
You don’t explain what your doing. Why did you hammer the rads. Less banging about. Pot plants kicking off the drain cover, surprised the street door is still on its hinges. No ppe no warning of a loud hammer drill noise. No ear plugs.
longlegs31 are you for real with the Ppe ? Do you need ppe when you get dressed In the morning ???😂😂😂 If you watch the fist video we bang the radiators to release the magnitite and the drill vibrates the rusty black muck free so the chemicals can flow and the magnitite returns to the power flush machine and the rusty bits gets caught in the filters which you see at the end of this video the rusty bits ( magnitite is what blocks the radiators valves and pipes causing the heating system to slow down the flow and be cold the chemical breaks it up but to speed it up we vibrate the radiators with a drill and a adely vibrator and catch it in the pump ) hope this helps explain It more ! And no ppe is needed unless you want to wear it as water doesn’t hurt and the chemicals are none acidic so no risk of burns but if you do use other chemicals than what we do please read the label and follow the instructions gloves goggles etc ,
Not only is that a retarded comment about PPE, but did you stop and notice his water trays were on the floor that would stop the door hitting the wall? Bit hard to open a door slowly with one finger in either end of a radiator full of water. Couldn't have opened the door before hand as the rad is behind it. He didn't kick over a plant pot he moved a bit of broken plastic with his feet because he doesn't have any hands free. Can't see he's done anything wrong at all, he's actually pretty tidy.
MGB 72UK thanks 👍lots of haters here behind the keyboards , it’s only to explaine how to do it and what it is it’s not a training video if it was I’d have 3 men one to watch one to hold the clip board and one to do the job 😂
I can’t see what he done wrong ? Why the fuck are you going to where Ppe in this situation , it’s residential not site ? Something tells me your new to the building trade with that sort of comment
This guy really knows his stuff. Excellent video. Thanks very much! 🙂
I think I’ll leave it to the experts, well presented video
Been a heating engineer for about 10 years. only watched out of curiosity but great video. nice to see what plant other people are using. keep up the good work
@Zapfenstreich you are right
Really clear and helpful video. Thanks.
Brillitant. Really informative. I've got a really old and very noisy boiler with single skin radiators with cold spots. I have bled them but having seen this I am definately going to get the system power flushed. Thanks again.
I have a single fereskin too!
The Fernox Powerflow MK III can operate at high temperatures too.
Question: why didn't you add your chemicals a couple of days before flushing?
This heating system had been piped in ten mm with a 2 meter flow and return from the boiler in 22 mm down to 15 mm then 10mm through out the house , you can power flush from a radiator using the adapters from the manufacture as per manufacture instructions and guid lines , it is important to use an inhibitor after to Prevent this from re happening and you will need to vibrate the radiators this will help a lot in flushing , for all the keyboard warriors who try and leave comments saying the general public shouldn’t see this ? I ask why it’s not a skilled job and you don’t have to be gas safe ?? Also if your a professional why are you watching how to do it videos on UA-cam ??? I didn’t because I did the course maybe it’s because I’m the professional qualified plumber ? Just saying
my house was built 15 years ago, small 3-bed detached, cheap Glowworm/Jaguar/Protherm combi boiler, plastic piping, 3 rads upstairs, plus towel-rail, 4 downstairs. At least 1 rad is cold to halfway up. I'm going to get quotes (Leics area) but here's the question - what difference does it make since pipes are plastic, boiler is combi, so rad system is sealed (with bypass from cold to fill) ?
Fred Overton
Is rads cold at the top hot st the bottom it’s air have you pumped up the expansion vessel ? On the boiler sounds like it may have gone
@@flash3168 - no ,other way round, cold at bottom, hot at top. I've had trouble with the diverter unit, replaced by plumber 5 years ago, had to do it again myself 3 years ago (recon swap on ebay), did it again myself 1 year ago (using kit on ebay). Very bad limescale (?) inside the diverter each time. That's the only trouble I've had in 15 years since buying house (new build), not been touched at all otherwise As I say though, plastic pipes, combi sealed system, does it make a difference to how it will be flushed ?
Fred Overton nope as the video shows it on a sealed combi look on eBay for a cheep machine use fernox f5 and dose it a week before with fernox f3 flush it then sell the machine back on eBay you shouldn’t loose much or look in to hiring one ? But defo use f3 before and don’t forget to use f1 inhibitor all cheep on eBay
@@flash3168 brilliant, thanks. Already familiar with the diverter and water pipes in the boiler, but wasn't sure on whether to DIY a system flush, but I think I will now (using rad in hall by front door). I presume I'll have to use the system filling tap quite a bit ?
I have a home made power flusher, works a treat!
I’m surprised the radiator that he removed and placed upside down by the gate wasn’t nicked by the scrap collectors while he was in the house!! Just imagine finishing the flushing job and then having to explain to the customer that they need to purchase a new radiator!! Ha ha.
Trevor Jarvis it was in a gated community so the chance of that would have been very very low but you are right scrap iron men are a problem
There’s a different version of the video intended for viewers from Liverpool....
Where i live the rad would have disappeared in minutes, then the pump he left outside the front door, meanwhile the CAT would be being cut off my van and my van door caved in and my tools all knicked.
Just fit a magnetic inline filter on the heating return .use a chemical cleaner flush/fill about 4 times . bang on rads with rubber mallet .Put inhibitor in . fill , bleed and balance .£40 materials for a 4 bedroom house max and a easy days work . might be finished by lunch !
Ha ha not quiet but good luck it can only help dose it with a good chemical days before but if your not getting a flow to the radiator you won’t clear it that way
@@flash3168 They are just using big magnaclean units .So just ramp up the pump speed and flush as much out as possible using normal pressure .Powerflushing can blow pipes and flood homes
Ok 👌🏻just so you know I’ve never had a pipe burst with a power flush though and I do a lot .also a heating pump actually circulars not pump and doesn’t move volume of water under pressure like a power flush machine which does this at 150 litres a minute also a heating pump only goes one way as a power flush machine can alternate? But I’d be interested to see if your way works though . And what was it’s tdi measurement before and after with a thermal survey because that would be interesting to see if It did anything , cheers in advance 👍
@@flash3168 what about leaks at joints? I want to get a power flush but a lot of my pipes are hidden or in concrete floors so I’m put off by worry re joint leaks. Am I worrying unnecessarily?
@@alanspence1716 hi I’ve done hundreds never had a pipe burst or a leak , but if you did get a leak it means you had a problem in the first place or it was always going to happen at least this way you would be prepared rather than Sunday night on Christmas Eve etc , I’ve never had a leak and I’ve been doing this for years and years hope his helps buddy
this very easy and best one,thanks
Not hating, these are genuine questions - Do you flush the rad you removed/does it need flushed? Also, if you have a double panel radiator, do you need to agitate the back panel too, if so, how do you do that?
Informative. Next big job is to unblock the drains!
negara54 not really it’s only a big job if you don’t know how to do it otherwise it’s quite easy , simples
I need this dude to sort mine out
Thanks for the video! Does the cleaner liquid clean the sludge from the radiators and also descale the heat exchanger or are they two separate compounds? Is there any chance of damaging the heat exchanger using such a high flow rate? How long does the cleaning have to run to ensure the heat exchanger has been cleaned. What's the point of the magnets if you're still dumping dirty black water?
Super videomanual !!! Bravo !!
Thank you. Interesting stuff.
Really informative video. Having a new boiler fitted soon and now I know what to expect from the power flush. Our radiators have thermostatic valves (except the one next to the front door). Under-floor pipes are plastic too (20 years plus old). Does that make any difference to the procedure?
Nope same way for both mate
I have used a descaling pump with a light acid called altrans in my system in theory if you use a inhibitor in the heating system limescale and rust would not occur until you introduce fresh water into the system withought using inhibitor.
Could you link where to get all the machinery from and prices
What if i just stick a really strong magnet onto one of my small rads, run the heating for an hour then it'll collect all the crap there. Take the rad and flush out with your hose pipe in your garden, that's if you have a garden, if not just use your neighbour's garden they won't mind.
chmoduk hi it won’t work as you won’t have the flow , radiators are cold with no flow and you won’t be able to go return to flow flow to return to clean the pipes . Good ideas though
@@flash3168 this is based on the assumption that there is some flow.
@@harunyahyadotorg a bit of low will help but this machine will make it flow with the right Chemicals and some heat and a old fashioned bit of patience 👍 that’s what they where made for got me out of the brown stuff lots of times
I have been told to have that done as Corgi Homecare won't cover my boiler repair.
Flash, you know how to do a proper and THOROUGH flush job. I have watched your video several times and try to observant. What I have noticed is your cleaning machine is Pumped as well as Magnetised. The Magnaclean and other system cleaning kits, rely on the heating system pump to move the sludge, Debris and Magnatite. Whereas the kit you use uses utilises its own PUMP and TWO BIG Magnets as well!!. Now, I would like to ask a few questions to you, Please?. 1, How much more efficient is your kit pump over a central heating one? . 2, Does your kit heat the system to aid further in cleaning?. And lastly what is the name and model of your kit, cos if I need this sort of job doing to my system and Your kit seems to do a better job over just Magnets alone?. Many Thanks in advance, Leon. :-)
This pump pumps 150 litres a minute that’s 1000x better than the circulator on the boiler people call a pump , you can run the boiler at the same time so there is your heat and the magnets are amazing , it’s from Nordstrom and will set you back £2500 plus’s depending on what attachments you want to use a power flush will cost from 360-600 depending on the size type of heating you have it’s always best to use a professional in case things go wrong , but I do recommend that machine I’ve had a few and his is the best I’m on my second one because I use it that much , hope this helps
@@flash3168 Thank You for your return message. Wow! £2500, that is some big bucks. I think it would be better to get someone in to flush them for me. I now have another question for you, please?. Do you know of/ recommend a pumped kit that is one fifth of the Nordstrom , that can do an acceptable job, for a DIY'er like me?. Once Again, Many thanks, Leon. :-)
@@leonhill6800 try eBay ?
How much would this cost ? Our engineer is trying to get us to hav a power flush but we don't hav problems with the rads , no cold spots no repressureing ever needed . He advised us several years ago to hav a fernox magnet fitted which we did and which I clean regular, we had a descale of the plate exchange but every now and then the water goes hot then cold ! Just really want to make sure he's not pulling a fast one as he's had 1000s off us over the years . Great vid by the way
trev815
Hi it depends on the size and type of radiator the size of your house type of system ie combi back boiler system boiler , the age of the boiler etc
If your radiators are hot about 58-80 degrees and you have no cold spots no noise and your fern ox filter is relatively clean you have been using inhibitor you shouldn’t kneed one but it’s hard to comment on I don’t know the history of your heating etc I ruff guess would be £340 but regions carry different prices ie Hull would be cheaper than London
flash3168 it's a glow worm 24cxi , we hav had 2 heat exchangers over the last 7 years and even after having a combi mate and fernox magnet fitted some years ago he's telling us we need another! I have put some cleanser in the system which has helped the exchanger but shelling out £550 for a flush just seems wrong when we hav no heating issues !? All rads are far to hot to touch when on , typical 3 bed semi with 4 single not very big rads upstairs and a tawel rail and 2x3 foot double rads and a 6 foot double in conservatory . Hard to trust what you're being told !! Thanks 👍
trev815 what’s its TDS ? Are you in a hard water town ? Look out side at your prv if it’s been running as quiet commonly people forget to install the flexi hose on the expansion vessel and if the filling loop is passing you may not know ? If your engineer has solved all your problems in the past and seems confidant and professional why not trust his word ? I’d get a second opinion of a recommended engineer and see what he says
flash3168 no idea on the tds, prv looks fine , yes unfortunately we are in a hard water area . He used to be quite small and now he has expanded a fair bit seems to be more about the money than the service , most problems we hav had could hav been avoided had he of told us the preventative measures the first time around not the 3rd . Will look into a second opinion thanks .
flash3168 k
Gosh. I’m amazed by this. How much do you think roughly... I know you cannot say definitely... a one bed flat with 3 big, one midi, one bathroom towel rail radiator should cost?
Is there a price that you’d say was too much?
Fantastic. 👍🥃
I was quoted £600 to have my system done 8 rads..so I fitted 8 new rads for 500
And that cleaned the pipe work out and the heat exchanger on the boiler. ?
Or did you just buy yourself a new car and fill the engine with the old oil from your old car and now waiting for the day you need to call the aa lol
Wow you’ve saved £100 only to need a flush in few years time lol
£600 is a fair price
This looks a big job . I think 2 of our radiators needs flushing
what is the device you use on your ads drill to vibrate the radiator
Hi have been in the property for about 20 years. Had our extension done. New boiler radiators fitted in our new extension.
Only the new radiators get hot all others don't really get hot. Iean they do but Very mildly hot and they dont even make thw room hot.
Very small amount of heat.
What can i do.
Please help
mr rambo gotta balance your system, the new rads valves are probably fully open
a bit less banging around on people walls and doors and a bit more care of the pot plants outside might be nice
Gen Me His trays were on the floor which stopped the door hitting the wall. Not sure how you expected him to open it slowly with a finger in either end of a rad full of water. Can't see he did anything wrong with the plant pot, he moved a bit of broken plastic with his feet because he didn't have any hands free.
you move the potted plants out the way before you start instead of dragging hoses over them and you also remove the drain cover before you start so you don't have to kick it off with a radiator in your hands, simples, nice machine though.
Gen Me Yeah, I would have moved the pots but hoses weren't exactly doing any harm in this situation.
Proper Prior Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance....
probably needed to redecorate after he left :)
I wonder if you pump in reverse direction you damage the heater pump or the thermostatic radiator valves
Nope you won’t
When power flushing the system do you use the water that's already in the system...I'm just confused.. if the house was fed from a small tank in attic dose this need to be blanked off and when u dump to drain does the system need topping up while power flushing..thanks...great video by the way
Alan Molloy do you have a gravity system ? A header tank if that’s the case you need to blank the vent and the draw off empty the full system and fill up with a hose pipe from the powerflushing machine dumping as you go
Yes that's what I have man...thank you for your reply.. was thinking about buying a machine but can't really find a supplier for them in ireland...thanks again man
Alan Molloy just hire one ? It would be cheeper
Good video !
How the hell did we manage in the old days without all this ?
Maybe we just had coal fires in every room? and of course the old gas cooker to warm the kitchen!
Where are you based-
How do you do it if the pump itself is already packed up?
Heswall Cheshire
And the power flush machine takes over the pump , pumps aren’t that expensive to replace depends on the boiler but I’d go in through the pump to flush it if I’d had to replace the pump anyway it would be easier
flushing through 10mm pipe is a bit risky
Awsome
Ideally should a powerflush happen before a new boiler is installed or doesn't it matter?
Dan H yes but if you have a old boiler and can’t afford to swap it it will fix any overheating and blocked heat exchanger or cold spots on your radiators
What’s the model number of the this flush machine please?
10 gallons a minute from a hot tap 🤔
Ben Regler litres as ten gallons is about 45 litres that’s impossible for hot water 😜 I must have been having one of those days
I’m nearly 40 and never talked in gallons, 10 gallons per minute from 15mm tap, The Fire Brigade would be using it to fill the truck 😂 at Mrs Jones house
James Julian lol no we use gallons quiet a lot with our drain jetter which is 300 psi 10 gallons per min , must have been thinking of that at the time 😂 I tell you what if I could make a boiler hot water run at 10 gallons I’d be in demand 😂🤣
@@jamesjulian your comment is really funny, it really made me laugh about the fire brigade, good one 👍🤣
Did you say 'Chem connectors'? What are these please? Please can you show us on the camera? cheers dx
Clamp lock
This is a good advert for having a dry no maintenance heating system...
My boiler is down stairs so can i still do this?
Why not just bleed the heaters if you have a water drain pipe to front of your house or just a drain pipe if your pipe is inside? Why take all the heaters off Why?
786qad because my learned friend we are not taking off all the radiators (heaters) and what your suggesting is called a drain down which empty’s water from the system ie to work on pipe work or to protect from frost in a void property , a powerflush cleans the radiators removing the sludge that won’t just drain down ? Hence the whole reason of showing you the video ???
What happens to the CH pump?
It gets cleaned
We have micro bore pipework can a power flush be done on it. Already have a magna clean in the system been in for about 7 years now all working fine boiler still runs at 95% efficient so this is just a query really as going to flush system and renew the inhibitor.
Glenn Pearce
Are all the radiators hot ? Is it working and have you keep replacing the inhibitors every 3 years or every time you drain down then you don’t need one
And yes powerflushing can be done on 10 mm that’s why it was invented as 10 mm is the worst for blocking unless you look after it by inhibitors etc
Omg! This looks incredibly expensive! Is it?
paulkazjack Not as expensive as having your heating on twice as long to get warm all winter!
Or right der scouse.
Ear protection may help, I've used the rad hammer
Less pouring chemicals down drains
Lee Pulham ? I’ll take them home next time in my flask for later ! The chemical is for flushing and won’t hurt any polar bears and can go down the grid , 🤣
Buggs Bunny I think you find it can I have never seen a polar bear in merseyside let alone one in the drain drinking water ???
Buggs Bunny it’s not a rain water my lover it’s foul waste the kitchen sink is connected we don’t have many grey water systems as houses tend to be around 80-130 years old around her but do send my regards a to United utility’s is I do quiet a lot of drainage works for them 😂
Please what area do you cover?
Wirral Chester Liverpool
@@flash3168 Please can you recommend a colleague in Kent? And you have number I can call ?
@@mroladeji1 I don’t know any one in key try British Gas
How much would / should I expect to pay for that service
dirty girl it depends on how many radiators how big they are are the double convectors is it s closed system or open vented and how bad it symptoms are ie does the boiler work etc and where you live or hudesfield is poor area so it would be lower than London a rich area ? Try getting 3 quotes and go with the one who you trust it may not be the cheapest ?
@@flash3168 I live Merseyside area . How much would it cost (from ££ to ££ ).
Thanks
dirty girl £240 to £360 up to ten rads depending how big if you call British gas its about £800
@@flash3168 Thank you .
dirty girl get a thermal image survey first before you agree to a flush and find out the tds total dissolved solution
Where’s there aluminium in a system it magnetite is iron from the steel called iron oxide and who uses stiltsons to hold the rad valve also that second rad valve moved need be more careful with them hoses other then that good job 🤣
Where can I get these cam connections
david bliault hi they sell them on eBay put this number in 132017853129 and search hope this helps
Did you say 10 gallons a minute on the hot side?
colin ford I said gallons but should have said ltrs it was a long day
Nice IPAF ticket :) , where did you parked your cherry picker m8? :))))))
Svetlin Yordanov out side your mums bedroom window 😂 no joking aside we don’t just do domestic work we do commercial and that’s why we have ipaf thanks for watching hope the video works
Because it's plumbers at work here I bet this job was priced at around £1000!!
paulkazjack no £360
You could try doing it yourself for a lot cheaper...
He must be professional he has an identity card and it's on a neck band and he's a Scouser
Michael Atkinson from the Wirral actually Cheshire lol 😂
By the time you've farted about putting your drill on the outside of the radiator to try and release sludge, connected up the machine outside etc etc, I could have had the radiator drained down, taken off and be flushing it through outside with a hose. The latter of which will do a far better job individually flushing out each radiator with a hose than any machine or drill will do on the whole system.
No you wouldn’t do a better job ? You need heat and chemicals also pressure to clean it ? Some times I can’t understand why you people bother commenting , your obviously an not a plumber or you would understand how to clear a blockage in pipe work or the heat exchanger on the boiler ? Will your hose pipe do that 😂 and of course de scale the plate heat exchanger ? Answer no ? That’s why your watching videos to learn how to do it ? , I wish you the best with your garden hose , good luck 😂😂😂
Dr. Scott-Arthur ha ha I’ve just re read what your saying , you recon draining down a dozen radiators some which would be doubles and over 1200 long ie heavy buggers ,and then carting them down stairs full of black muck emptying them out side then using a garden hose 22 letters tops pressure otherwise it 12 litres or less per minute compared to a powerflush machine which is 150 litres per minute is faster all you have to do is remove just one small radiator and you can flush each radiator in turn and the boiler and the pipe work and the pump and any motorises valves and a much much better job 😂 I don’t think you are a real dr ? As it’s my understanding that dr are cleaver 😂😂😂, that would be like using a plaster to stop someone who has cut there arm off from bleeding out ? ( ie useless and a waste of time 😂😂😂😂) I thank you for your interesting point of view if anything you have entertained all of the boys on the night shift here on what would have been otherwise a dull night 👍😂
@@flash3168 he's probably a doctor of philosophy :)
@@fred_said Correct.
@@flash3168 I wasn't disputing that you shouldn't power flush out the boiler, heat exchanger etc. I can see the purpose of that. The point I was making is that what you can do with the rad off the wall is superior to leaving it on the wall. This is because with a garden hose you can flush it out from a variety of angles, on it's side, upside down etc. Whereas if it's plumbed in to the heating system you can only flush it level which won't dislodge sludge as well as being able to move the radiator as you flush it.
can u make it louder its very quiet
At times the machine drowns out the commentary.
Do you still do this, where about r u ?
saulius kietas hi in the Wirral over the water from Liverpool not far from Chester if my slight accent did not give me away 🤣
flash3168 I’m based in Liverpool myself pal what’s price
Sean S is it gravity system /combi how many radiators are there /they singles or doubles do they work ? Guess £360
And now your water bill is???...🤔
Mr Nuts I don’t understand your comment so I don’t know how best to respond with an answer ,
I’m a plumber and what you’ve shown people is a sealed system and a combination boiler ,shouldn’t you let people know on an open vent system you need to put a cap off on the vent ?
paul adams no I’m not teaching people how to do it ? And you shouldn’t cap off the f and e you join them together , and if your s plumber why are you watching this ??? Just saying !
This isn’t a training video if you want to learn become a plumber !
Wasn’t criticising mate just pointing out open vent systems do exist
paul adams sorry mate I didn’t mean it to sound like that you are right about open vented but try joining the vent to the draw off it works well on the flush , I’ll try and do a video on one and post it up
No probs mate but if people have an open vent system and do what your doing in the video the overflow in the header tank won’t cope and it will overflow , wasn’t trying to be clever just trying to stop an accident that will envitably happen , good luck mate 👍
paul adams no your absolutely right mate I didn’t think of open vented systems I’ll try and do a video on one on the future
Hey are you based in Liverpool? If so can you come and check my rads out ? Cheers
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10 ? 11? 12 ? Lol
You don’t explain what your doing. Why did you hammer the rads.
Less banging about. Pot plants kicking off the drain cover, surprised the street door is still on its hinges. No ppe no warning of a loud hammer drill noise. No ear plugs.
longlegs31 are you for real with the Ppe ? Do you need ppe when you get dressed In the morning ???😂😂😂
If you watch the fist video we bang the radiators to release the magnitite and the drill vibrates the rusty black muck free so the chemicals can flow and the magnitite returns to the power flush machine and the rusty bits gets caught in the filters which you see at the end of this video the rusty bits ( magnitite is what blocks the radiators valves and pipes causing the heating system to slow down the flow and be cold the chemical breaks it up but to speed it up we vibrate the radiators with a drill and a adely vibrator and catch it in the pump ) hope this helps explain It more ! And no ppe is needed unless you want to wear it as water doesn’t hurt and the chemicals are none acidic so no risk of burns but if you do use other chemicals than what we do please read the label and follow the instructions gloves goggles etc ,
Not only is that a retarded comment about PPE, but did you stop and notice his water trays were on the floor that would stop the door hitting the wall? Bit hard to open a door slowly with one finger in either end of a radiator full of water. Couldn't have opened the door before hand as the rad is behind it. He didn't kick over a plant pot he moved a bit of broken plastic with his feet because he doesn't have any hands free. Can't see he's done anything wrong at all, he's actually pretty tidy.
MGB 72UK thanks 👍lots of haters here behind the keyboards , it’s only to explaine how to do it and what it is it’s not a training video if it was I’d have 3 men one to watch one to hold the clip board and one to do the job 😂
flash3168 I know right! A dirty job at the best of times mate but ignore it all, I wouldn't have done anything any differently myself!
I can’t see what he done wrong ? Why the fuck are you going to where Ppe in this situation , it’s residential not site ? Something tells me your new to the building trade with that sort of comment