It so happens that I was just thinking about how great another video about misconceptions would be. Rainbow Dave is never late; he arrives precisely when he means to!
I loved that! Although i thought it was leading to a trifecta of the interaction, choices and consequences between Sam, Frodo and Gollum leading up to the moment where it was all required. I do like the Eru Iluvstar connection though, but maybe more as the One that weaves the threads of the trifecta together
@@veronicadavanzo2064 The trifecta really is 1. Frodo's and Sam's pity toward Gollum allowing all three to reach the Cracks of Doom. 2. The Ring (not Frodo) cursing Gollum never to touch it (not him) again, with Gollum still following through on his greed - which saved the day, as without him, Frodo claiming the Ring would have doomed the quest. The Ring's curse basically sealed its fate though, because... 3. Eru giving Gollum that little nudge to 'accidentally' lose his footing and fall in, when no one could have ever willingly thrown the Ring in or actively jumped in carrying it. Gollum least of all.
@@HerrRoehrich It is also in line with Tolkien's stance that the ring and darkness in general is not fought by power, but by compassion and kindness, something Gandalf personified. Hence why our three hobbits managed to do so well with the ring and why there was always some degree of divine intervention in the back, aiding them (and the fellowship) in subtle ways.
If Tolkien had his way the books would be: The Ring Leaves, The Ring Goes South, The Ring Stays, The Ring Goes East, The Ring Goes South, and The Ring Arrives
I think ultimately Tolkien was an artist and all great artist's primary ambition is to make you think as deeply as possible. So to answer your question regarding why Tolkien might have changed his mind about the naming convention for his books: this video is a perfect representation. I think Tolkien would be absolutely thrilled to see and hear people enjoying talking about his work in such exhaustive detail with such passion. You make him proud Rainbow Dave.
I dont think he cares about making ppl think at a ll like hes handing out quizzes or something lol. This was summed up when somebody asked him about using the eagles to go to morodor and he shut said something like "i think they should shut up" in a joking matter because he knows its a fantasy
@@user-bl7em8sx6oI think Tolkien's "shut up" to eagle enjoyers wasn't a real quote, it's just a parody someone made on UA-cam. I don't know if anyone ever considered the eagle solution before the internet age and Jackson adaptation, to be honest, since it is evidently a pretty bad solution. Eagles flying into Mordor wouldn't be exactly stealthy. They would be brought down by Nazguls on fell beasts and ring would be seized by Sauron, end of story. The whole point of the books is to carry the ring in stealth, avoiding Sauron's spies.
The German editions of The Lord of the Rings that were published by Kletta-Cotta did get published as six volumes (and also The Hobbit)! Book 1 is "The Ring Wanders", Book 2 is "The Ring Goes South", 3 is "Isengard's Treason", 4 is "The Ring Goes East", 5 is "The Ringwar", and 6 is "The End of the Third Age".
Any Friday when Rainbow Dave uploads a video is a delight! Thank you for clearing up those misconceptions. I suspect it's more prevalent in those who saw the PJ movies but never read the books.
I believe that when Tolkien wrote of elf ear leaf shapes, he was probably thinking of typical leaves in his country or even closer surroundings. Tolkien was creating a mythology for Britain which is also why so many of his stories are limited to ways he knew from his homeland (not because of bias or prejudice).
The perfect video to go with a Friday. I’m sure your life goals rightfully expand far beyond Tolkien’s world on UA-cam. And yet, your virtuosity in this realm is unparalleled. THANK YOU for another video!
16:50 Little point regarding Tommy B. Tolkien always was growing a world beyond the focal stories. Tom, though 'first, eldest, etc.', was among countless spirits and such for whom the wars of Middle Earth were inconsequential. (Eg. Not all of the Ainur even came into Arda, but stayed with Illuvatar in the timeless halls.) Tom, and many others, had their own stories apart from the tales Tolkien was able to tell in his lifetime. There was plainly intended, a universe of unexplored adventure.
Point of order. After listening to this, there is one person who gave up the ring freely, and its gandalf. He picked it up, it was his to hold, and he put it on the mantle and did not take it back. He was the powerful one in the moment, bilbo could not have stopped him, but he put it down for frodo.
Welcome back! Regarding Isildur much of the information that sheds more light on him is exclusive to Unfinished Tales, which is perhaps why it persists.
Agreed. It’s a bit like Obi-wan in Star Wars. In the original trilogy it sounded like he had stuffed up with Vader because of hubris. When the prequels came out it show a more complicated situation and redeemed the character.
Oh boy, you are going to need like a 4+ hour version of these videos to go over all the misconceptions and falsehoods born out of Amazons The Rings of Power.
Ok I'm going to double misconcept you. I've always hated it when "Tolkien scholars"/UA-camrs derived from them claim the elvish rings of power don't give any power over the elements after which they were named. I think the main takeaway is that the more important powers of the Rings have nothing to do with the element (except allegorically). But the wielders of the rings of power are all three seen having powers over the element of their ring. Gandalf uses fire all the time, Elrond summons the great flood to wash away the nazgul and galadriel summons a great storm to defeat the final army that attacks lothlorien. That's a really stupid coincidence to exist in a story, so I believe it's not a coincidence. I think the point is the rings have more important and influential powers.
Elrond's ring is the ring of air, not water. It would not make sense for him to summon a flood from the power of his ring if he has the ring of air. Also, from what we know, Cirdan, the original owner of Narya, never had power over fire.
You might be right but I am more impressed to read someones has questioned the statements made, good, It shows you can think for yourself, there seems to be a shortage of people like that :'-( I think we are all doomed.
Great video. I will disagree slightly that Isildur was slightly subverted by the Ring, almost immediately. The way he claimed it immediately and used 'weregild' is too similar to Gollumn's 'birthday present' for my comfort. Even Bilbo justified his possession by saying he 'won it' in the riddle game. While Isildur did admit, with death staring him in the face, that it was a mistake to take the Ring, it does not imply that he was traveling to Rivendell to give up the Ring, but rather his family (wife and young son), were there and he did want to counsel with Elrond. Excellent summary of the unique confluence of influences that led to the Eucatastrophe of the destruction of the Ring and the ambiguity of the Two Towers title and book titles. The Orcs issue has always been a bugaboo for fans. Tolkien left his earlier thoughts due to his philosophical beliefs of "Evil not being able to create, only corrupt." In avoiding this problem with Orcish origin, he ran smack into another philosophical conundrum with his beliefs: "The Children of Eru have free will." He seemed to go back and forth on orcs just being automatons that repeated hateful thoughts and phrases instilled in them by their masters, to having them being thinking beings capable of independent actions. It seems obvious that the later is more in tune with the vast majority of his stories though it became difficult to explain how an entire race became irrecoverably evil. I agree that people over-emphasize the meaning of Gandalf's Ring; the Ring of Fire is about 'firing up' others, so to speak. Good take on elves 'leaf shaped' ears.
Worth noting, as someone under a different video (I can't remember which or who's) pointed out: In that incident with Frodo and Gollum with the command regarding the ring on Mount Doom, the voice described from Sam's vantage point spoke out of the ring or the "wheel of fire" itself, implying that it was the ring which had already mastered Gollum and which declared it was finished with him, so that if he tried to claim it, he would be cast into the fire of doom, even as it happened. Notably, Frodo warned Gollum that this would be his fate for swearing on the "precious," as it would hold him to it, being more treacherous than him and having already mastered him long ago. It's astounding to consider, but if this interpretation is correct, then the Euchatastophe works out with the Ring's own malicious will destroying itself, even as Tolkien warns us is often bound to happen.
What's hench mean, is that some new silly mismash of words? Or is it a spelling mistake? I don't remember the drawing, but I do think the images displayed a pretty good with Rainbow Dave, much better then these bloody stupid sites on middle earth, with cheese comic book square jaws for the young Gandalf or stange feminin elves with hints of Japanese anime about them.
Very good,as always. I appreciate your passion. Have you thought of doing a tutorial on Farmer Giles, The Green Knight, or Roverandom? Your insights are always pleasant & informative.
I think Sam grounded in humility was worried for Frodo bearing something that he himself felt overwhelmed by in his short tenure of Ringbearer, and when tested he says ‘It’s a trick of Sauron’s’ and realises that he would be incapable of weilding the ring because he had down to earth ‘hobbit sense’. I believe there was some angst in giving it back, but it was overcome by his love for Frodo his master.
on gandalfs fire powers when hes fighting the balrog in moria he says "i am the servent of the secret fire. weilder of the flame of anor." which i always interpreted like he was trained (or however wizards get their magic) in fire or something like that. also gandalf was aware of how almost impossible it would be to intentionally damage the ring. when hes first telling frodo about it he tells him to try and damage it but frodo already cant despite it only being his first time holding it.
I have The Lord of the Rings in a single volume. I can attest to the fact that it is indeed an enormous tome. Makes Storm of Swords seem like a small book lol.
I’m so happy to see you championing Isidur’s reputation. Between the movies and the Amazon CATASTROPHE of a series there are more and more misconception still arising. Glad to see another excellent video!
On misconception 3, knowing Professor Tolkien was a professor of languages, I always assumed that "snaga" was to the orcs what "slav" was to the Norse.
Theory: The ONLY reason that Gandalf, Galadriel, and Elrond were so enthralled and amused by the Hobbits is because they wore the elven rings and their master ring was owned by a Hobbit for centuries.
When you said "a trifecta of three distinct forces" leading to the destruction of the One Ring I assumed they would be "momentum, gravity, and entropy" 😅
Not really, as there were always "types" of orc. Aragorn says that "these are not from Mordor but from the mountains in the north, if I know anything about orcs" - which means that they are visibly different, even when dead.
They still both came from elves, so theyre technically the same thing. When sauraman is talking to lurtz he tells him "do you know how the orcs first came to be? They were elves once"
Great video again! I appreciate all the work you put into one video, no Tolkien/Lord of the Rings channel dig so deep. But unlike what you find in Moria, it is magnificent. Greetings from Germany
Sadly I got single during your hiatus so I can't make the sweet "BABE WAKE UP RAINBOW DAVE VID JUST DROP." But I'm super excited anyway. I missed your videos so much and rewatched many of them over the months. Thank you for coming back and give us all a late summer present ❤❤
Hang in there, Ruby, there's life after couplehood! You just have to learn how to go to dinner and a movie by yourself...but you get to choose where to have dinner and which movie to see!
The wearers of the 3 elven rings should have had a pretty good idea that the One Ring, if not intrinsically evil, was at least made for the explicit purpose of ruling the other rings and their wearers. That should be reason enough for Elrond to want the Ring destroyed.
I actually read the curse part of the trifecta as not Frodo cursing Gollum using the Ring's power to never touch *him* again, but the One Ring itself being the curse's originator. "Then suddenly, [...] Sam saw these two rivals with other vision. A crouching shape, scarcely more than the shadow of a living thing, a creature now wholly ruined and defeated, yet filled with a hideous lust and rage; and before it stood stern, untouchable now by pity, a figure robed in white, but at its breast it held a wheel of fire. *Out of the fire there spoke a commanding voice.* 'Begone, and trouble me no more! If you touch me ever again, you shall be cast yourself into the Fire of Doom.'" Frodo is the 'figure robed in white', but the commanding voice doesn't come out of his mouth, but from the 'wheel of fire' (i.e. the One Ring) at his chest, so Frodo had absolutely nothing to do with the curse. The One Ring itself cursed Gollum to fall into the fire if he ever touched his 'Precious' again - it just probably didn't bank on him still holding it as he went in.
It so happens that I was just thinking about how great another video about misconceptions would be. Rainbow Dave is never late; he arrives precisely when he means to!
Love this. 😂
I really appreciate how all the art is credited
Your "trifecta of the destruction of the one ring" is the most revelatory explanation of a Tolkien concept to me. Thank you, Rainbow Dave.
I loved that! Although i thought it was leading to a trifecta of the interaction, choices and consequences between Sam, Frodo and Gollum leading up to the moment where it was all required. I do like the Eru Iluvstar connection though, but maybe more as the One that weaves the threads of the trifecta together
Sam’s pity toward Gollum was pivotal in the destruction of the ring. In that way, he mirrors Bilbo. Love that particular theme in Tolkien’s stories.
@@veronicadavanzo2064 The trifecta really is
1. Frodo's and Sam's pity toward Gollum allowing all three to reach the Cracks of Doom.
2. The Ring (not Frodo) cursing Gollum never to touch it (not him) again, with Gollum still following through on his greed - which saved the day, as without him, Frodo claiming the Ring would have doomed the quest. The Ring's curse basically sealed its fate though, because...
3. Eru giving Gollum that little nudge to 'accidentally' lose his footing and fall in, when no one could have ever willingly thrown the Ring in or actively jumped in carrying it. Gollum least of all.
@@HerrRoehrich It is also in line with Tolkien's stance that the ring and darkness in general is not fought by power, but by compassion and kindness, something Gandalf personified. Hence why our three hobbits managed to do so well with the ring and why there was always some degree of divine intervention in the back, aiding them (and the fellowship) in subtle ways.
As a Canadian i will now imagine elves with maple leaf ears
Ah yes, the _Mavainaquendi,_ or Maple-elves. Avari who first colonized the Americas after they replaced Valinor at the end of the Second Age.
If Tolkien had his way the books would be: The Ring Leaves, The Ring Goes South, The Ring Stays, The Ring Goes East, The Ring Goes South, and The Ring Arrives
Two of the books having the same name?
@@bewmdogg The second would be The Ring Goes South (again)
I think ultimately Tolkien was an artist and all great artist's primary ambition is to make you think as deeply as possible. So to answer your question regarding why Tolkien might have changed his mind about the naming convention for his books: this video is a perfect representation.
I think Tolkien would be absolutely thrilled to see and hear people enjoying talking about his work in such exhaustive detail with such passion. You make him proud Rainbow Dave.
I dont think he cares about making ppl think at a ll like hes handing out quizzes or something lol. This was summed up when somebody asked him about using the eagles to go to morodor and he shut said something like "i think they should shut up" in a joking matter because he knows its a fantasy
@@user-bl7em8sx6oI think Tolkien's "shut up" to eagle enjoyers wasn't a real quote, it's just a parody someone made on UA-cam.
I don't know if anyone ever considered the eagle solution before the internet age and Jackson adaptation, to be honest, since it is evidently a pretty bad solution. Eagles flying into Mordor wouldn't be exactly stealthy. They would be brought down by Nazguls on fell beasts and ring would be seized by Sauron, end of story. The whole point of the books is to carry the ring in stealth, avoiding Sauron's spies.
@@n0vitskinight stealth mission, Lancaster Bomber style?🤷♀️
Danke!
Thank you very much!
Well, I'm going to imagine elves with palm fronds for ears now and nobody can stop me.
The German editions of The Lord of the Rings that were published by Kletta-Cotta did get published as six volumes (and also The Hobbit)! Book 1 is "The Ring Wanders", Book 2 is "The Ring Goes South", 3 is "Isengard's Treason", 4 is "The Ring Goes East", 5 is "The Ringwar", and 6 is "The End of the Third Age".
Broh gibts davon noch kopien? Sind di inhaltlich udentisch oder auch anders geschrieben?😮❤
Welcome back, Dave. Missed your Tolkien input.
very glad you are back Dave, may the road go ever on and on! Down from that sneaky door where it begun
Any Friday when Rainbow Dave uploads a video is a delight! Thank you for clearing up those misconceptions. I suspect it's more prevalent in those who saw the PJ movies but never read the books.
Ahhhh, Dave! I’m so glad you’re back! 👏👏👏
Welcome Back RD. It’s wonderful to see your videos again. I hope all is well and keep up the good work.
I believe that when Tolkien wrote of elf ear leaf shapes, he was probably thinking of typical leaves in his country or even closer surroundings. Tolkien was creating a mythology for Britain which is also why so many of his stories are limited to ways he knew from his homeland (not because of bias or prejudice).
The perfect video to go with a Friday. I’m sure your life goals rightfully expand far beyond Tolkien’s world on UA-cam. And yet, your virtuosity in this realm is unparalleled.
THANK YOU for another video!
That was such a good opener. I’m sat and strapped in for this one
Yay Dave! Thank you very much for making this video for us to enjoy!
16:50
Little point regarding Tommy B.
Tolkien always was growing a world beyond the focal stories.
Tom, though 'first, eldest, etc.', was among countless spirits and such for whom the wars of Middle Earth were inconsequential. (Eg. Not all of the Ainur even came into Arda, but stayed with Illuvatar in the timeless halls.)
Tom, and many others, had their own stories apart from the tales Tolkien was able to tell in his lifetime. There was plainly intended, a universe of unexplored adventure.
Gollum calls him stupid fat hobbit and Tolkien says he's stout.
Glad to have you back, Rainbow Dave!
Point of order. After listening to this, there is one person who gave up the ring freely, and its gandalf. He picked it up, it was his to hold, and he put it on the mantle and did not take it back. He was the powerful one in the moment, bilbo could not have stopped him, but he put it down for frodo.
Welcome back, Rainbow Dave 🌈 Great video, and I'm really looking forward to more ❤
Welcome back! Regarding Isildur much of the information that sheds more light on him is exclusive to Unfinished Tales, which is perhaps why it persists.
Agreed. It’s a bit like Obi-wan in Star Wars. In the original trilogy it sounded like he had stuffed up with Vader because of hubris. When the prequels came out it show a more complicated situation and redeemed the character.
Nice to have you back, Dave!
Isildur did nothing wrong
Yeah, exactly, Magn.. I mean Isildur did nothing wrong
@@lemmypop1300 Magneto is right tho XD
@@artten5002 Eh, wrong franchise but I agree with you too :)
Nobody's perfect 😅
@@lemmypop1300blasphemy, report to nearest inquisitor (honestly Magnus fucked up big time)
Babe, wake up. Rainbow Dave just uploaded!
im up im up
😂
Oh boy, you are going to need like a 4+ hour version of these videos to go over all the misconceptions and falsehoods born out of Amazons The Rings of Power.
I don’t even think it’s worth bothering. I don’t think enough people here are even watching it.
So glad to see you back love your videos. I just watched all your first age playlist for the 3 time looking forward to the fall of gondolin
So happy to see you back, Dave!!
We’ve missed you *Rainbow Dave* …thank you for a brilliant video and it’s nice to have you back 🙌
Great to see you back Rainbow Dave ! 😃
Samwise ate too many ''Tayters''.
Boil em, mash em stick em In a stew😂.
Lol
Worth the wait. Thanks, Dave. ❤
Ok I'm going to double misconcept you.
I've always hated it when "Tolkien scholars"/UA-camrs derived from them claim the elvish rings of power don't give any power over the elements after which they were named. I think the main takeaway is that the more important powers of the Rings have nothing to do with the element (except allegorically).
But the wielders of the rings of power are all three seen having powers over the element of their ring. Gandalf uses fire all the time, Elrond summons the great flood to wash away the nazgul and galadriel summons a great storm to defeat the final army that attacks lothlorien.
That's a really stupid coincidence to exist in a story, so I believe it's not a coincidence. I think the point is the rings have more important and influential powers.
Elrond's ring is the ring of air, not water. It would not make sense for him to summon a flood from the power of his ring if he has the ring of air. Also, from what we know, Cirdan, the original owner of Narya, never had power over fire.
Cirdan: "I gave you an Elemental Ring of Command, what do you use it for? Fireworks and smoke rings. You boss."
_>"galadriel summons a great storm to defeat the final army that attacks lothlorien."
You might be right but I am more impressed to read someones has questioned the statements made, good, It shows you can think for yourself, there seems to be a shortage of people like that :'-( I think we are all doomed.
Glad to see a new video from you 🌈Dave. I hope everything is going perfectly with your project. Much love!
I've often thought about the elven ear thing! Thanks for making that make sense
I just looked for your content earlier today. Thanks for a new video.
Great video. I will disagree slightly that Isildur was slightly subverted by the Ring, almost immediately. The way he claimed it immediately and used 'weregild' is too similar to Gollumn's 'birthday present' for my comfort. Even Bilbo justified his possession by saying he 'won it' in the riddle game. While Isildur did admit, with death staring him in the face, that it was a mistake to take the Ring, it does not imply that he was traveling to Rivendell to give up the Ring, but rather his family (wife and young son), were there and he did want to counsel with Elrond.
Excellent summary of the unique confluence of influences that led to the Eucatastrophe of the destruction of the Ring and the ambiguity of the Two Towers title and book titles.
The Orcs issue has always been a bugaboo for fans. Tolkien left his earlier thoughts due to his philosophical beliefs of "Evil not being able to create, only corrupt." In avoiding this problem with Orcish origin, he ran smack into another philosophical conundrum with his beliefs: "The Children of Eru have free will." He seemed to go back and forth on orcs just being automatons that repeated hateful thoughts and phrases instilled in them by their masters, to having them being thinking beings capable of independent actions. It seems obvious that the later is more in tune with the vast majority of his stories though it became difficult to explain how an entire race became irrecoverably evil.
I agree that people over-emphasize the meaning of Gandalf's Ring; the Ring of Fire is about 'firing up' others, so to speak.
Good take on elves 'leaf shaped' ears.
Good to see a new video! Been missing these!
I'm so glad you're back RD!!
We have missed you! So glad you're back!
Worth noting, as someone under a different video (I can't remember which or who's) pointed out:
In that incident with Frodo and Gollum with the command regarding the ring on Mount Doom, the voice described from Sam's vantage point spoke out of the ring or the "wheel of fire" itself, implying that it was the ring which had already mastered Gollum and which declared it was finished with him, so that if he tried to claim it, he would be cast into the fire of doom, even as it happened.
Notably, Frodo warned Gollum that this would be his fate for swearing on the "precious," as it would hold him to it, being more treacherous than him and having already mastered him long ago. It's astounding to consider, but if this interpretation is correct, then the Euchatastophe works out with the Ring's own malicious will destroying itself, even as Tolkien warns us is often bound to happen.
Could you imagine an elf with maple leaf shaped ears lol
Great video
Lovely to have you back Dave. Great video as always 😊
38:45 I love that you used Angus McBride's illustration, I always thought if any Elf was going to be hench it'd be the master smith Celebrimbor!
I love that image of him!
What's hench mean, is that some new silly mismash of words? Or is it a spelling mistake?
I don't remember the drawing, but I do think the images displayed a pretty good with Rainbow Dave, much better then these bloody stupid sites on middle earth, with cheese comic book square jaws for the young Gandalf or stange feminin elves with hints of Japanese anime about them.
my favorite tolkien lore dude. hell yeah. love you my dude
Yaaaaaay you’re back! Hi RD!!!
Yay Dave! Thank you very much for making this video for us to enjoy! Blessing to you❤
Glad to see you updating again!
Man it’s always a good day when you post a vid
Very good,as always. I appreciate your passion. Have you thought of doing a tutorial on Farmer Giles, The Green Knight, or Roverandom? Your insights are always pleasant & informative.
I think Sam grounded in humility was worried for Frodo bearing something that he himself felt overwhelmed by in his short tenure of Ringbearer, and when tested he says ‘It’s a trick of Sauron’s’ and realises that he would be incapable of weilding the ring because he had down to earth ‘hobbit sense’. I believe there was some angst in giving it back, but it was overcome by his love for Frodo his master.
welcome back dave
Great video, Rainbow Dave!
Welcome back!!! Your videos are my therapy ❤
on gandalfs fire powers when hes fighting the balrog in moria he says "i am the servent of the secret fire. weilder of the flame of anor." which i always interpreted like he was trained (or however wizards get their magic) in fire or something like that. also gandalf was aware of how almost impossible it would be to intentionally damage the ring. when hes first telling frodo about it he tells him to try and damage it but frodo already cant despite it only being his first time holding it.
I have The Lord of the Rings in a single volume. I can attest to the fact that it is indeed an enormous tome. Makes Storm of Swords seem like a small book lol.
He's back! Thank you.
Rainbow Dave! Seeing a new video from you makes my day!
I’m so happy to see you championing Isidur’s reputation. Between the movies and the Amazon CATASTROPHE of a series there are more and more misconception still arising.
Glad to see another excellent video!
I’m so glad you brought up the eucatastrophe… Tolkien’s Catholicism is so important to the legendarium…
Very much so. I wish he would have made up his mind about the orcs though. Particularly their souls or lack thereof
On misconception 3, knowing Professor Tolkien was a professor of languages, I always assumed that "snaga" was to the orcs what "slav" was to the Norse.
Woo! I recently discovered your channel and have been BINGING the videos! Glad you're back :) 💕
Thanks Dave!! Always appreciate a Tolkien Untangled video!!
Brilliant stuff, Rainbow Dave. I'm always happy when I see a new Tolkein untangled upload 🎉
Boring last hour at work before the weekend with nothing left to do and Rainbow Dave comes to the rescue! May the Valar bless you!
Yes Dave new video woooooooo!!
RAINBOW DAVE IS BACK🙌🏼🌈🌈🌈🌈
Ghey
Theory: The ONLY reason that Gandalf, Galadriel, and Elrond were so enthralled and amused by the Hobbits is because they wore the elven rings and their master ring was owned by a Hobbit for centuries.
God bless you and your work sir ❤ respect form Croatia-Europe 😇😇😇
Hey! You’re back! Soooooooo happy! Hope you’re well!
Great you’re back man.
Rainbow Dave, you are always a great pick me up. Always so positive. I enjoy your videos!
Fantastic as always...!
When you said "a trifecta of three distinct forces" leading to the destruction of the One Ring I assumed they would be "momentum, gravity, and entropy" 😅
Echoing the chorus here in the comments - wonderful to see you back!
Omg you've returned to us!!! Missed you so much!
I think making the Goblins and Orcs different is one of the few improvements the movies made.
Not really, as there were always "types" of orc. Aragorn says that "these are not from Mordor but from the mountains in the north, if I know anything about orcs" - which means that they are visibly different, even when dead.
They still both came from elves, so theyre technically the same thing. When sauraman is talking to lurtz he tells him "do you know how the orcs first came to be? They were elves once"
I absolutely love this channel. Thanks Dave! Your hard work is appreciated. God Bless!
That was fantastic. I learned a few things, and you confirmed several things for me!
Great video again! I appreciate all the work you put into one video, no Tolkien/Lord of the Rings channel dig so deep. But unlike what you find in Moria, it is magnificent.
Greetings from Germany
Awesome work, mon mellon!
Thank you.
Was so happy to see this😊.
Wellcome back! You have been missed.
RAINBOW DAVE!!!! This is a happy day indeed!
Never clicked so fast 🏃♀️
I was lit njst thinking it's been forever!!! Glad your back
Heck yes, Rainbow Dave is back!!!!
0:12 I feel it was implied when he said most hobbits were fat except the baggins because of their adventurous nature
Sadly I got single during your hiatus so I can't make the sweet "BABE WAKE UP RAINBOW DAVE VID JUST DROP." But I'm super excited anyway. I missed your videos so much and rewatched many of them over the months. Thank you for coming back and give us all a late summer present ❤❤
Hang in there, Ruby, there's life after couplehood! You just have to learn how to go to dinner and a movie by yourself...but you get to choose where to have dinner and which movie to see!
Looking forward to listening to you tell the Fall of Gondolin!
Another great video. Love this channel.
Missed you Dave 🥰🥰🥰 so glad you're back 🎉🎉
The wearers of the 3 elven rings should have had a pretty good idea that the One Ring, if not intrinsically evil, was at least made for the explicit purpose of ruling the other rings and their wearers. That should be reason enough for Elrond to want the Ring destroyed.
Dave we have missed you
Another informative winner! Thank you ❤️
Finally another video from rainbow Dave!!!!
The real Trifecta:
Frodo's corruption/reluctance to give up the Ring,
Golem's corruption/singleminded obsession with the Ring,
And *_GRAVITY._*
I actually read the curse part of the trifecta as not Frodo cursing Gollum using the Ring's power to never touch *him* again, but the One Ring itself being the curse's originator.
"Then suddenly, [...] Sam saw these two rivals with other vision. A crouching shape, scarcely more than the shadow of a living thing, a creature now wholly ruined and defeated, yet filled with a hideous lust and rage; and before it stood stern, untouchable now by pity, a figure robed in white, but at its breast it held a wheel of fire. *Out of the fire there spoke a commanding voice.*
'Begone, and trouble me no more! If you touch me ever again, you shall be cast yourself into the Fire of Doom.'"
Frodo is the 'figure robed in white', but the commanding voice doesn't come out of his mouth, but from the 'wheel of fire' (i.e. the One Ring) at his chest, so Frodo had absolutely nothing to do with the curse.
The One Ring itself cursed Gollum to fall into the fire if he ever touched his 'Precious' again - it just probably didn't bank on him still holding it as he went in.
Gandalf as Olorin the Maia was a fire spirit to begin with.
He's associated with the Valar of Dreams though.
Fire Maia tended to be more associated with Melkor.