When to Peen Your Scythe Blade | Professional Scything Team with Examples!
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
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🕒 Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:25 Signs it's Time to Peen
04:36 Bonus tip!
05:42 Ty's blade
06:44 Jonas's blade
07:23 Eskil's blade
09:25 Gustav's blade
11:07 Jonathan's blade
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Great video! Very useful!
Fingers crossed for more videos - I'd love to see how you can repair bent and wavy blades due to bad peening on the anvil 😂
Another great tutorial! They’re really helping me with my scythe skills, keep them coming please!
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Yes. Very instructive! Thank you!
Thank you, this was very useful.
I use a scythe in Hong Kong where most people don't even have a garden, let alone know what a scythe is. As for peening a scythe blade...forget about it.
I had a rudimentary idea of the process but this video has bolstered that and also given valuable insight as to when to peen.
This video was very helpful! Thank you
Amazing video. Thanks!
Watched this again. Really helpful, thanks.
Thank you very much!
Very good!
excellent info
Thank you!
❤❤❤❤🎉 Thank you Sir.
Also, different grass stands call for different thinness : while urtica, dactylis or carduus or the like are "easy clients" (not by themselves, but in regard to the peening), one will wonder that a scythe fit for such plants will mysteriously seem dull when switching to poaceae or trifolum...
Yes of course all is different although I do not find poace and trifolium among the toughest. But what is important is that one learn how to keep the perfect sharpness no matter what stands Infront of the scythe!
This was a very helpful video, thanks. I use a ditch blade because my property has a lot of woody growth. Do you have any suggestions for peening a ditch blade vs a scythe blade?
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Tacl för grym video! De skador jag oftast får i bladet är små sprickor eller att en bit av eggen lossnar och det blir ett typ fyrkantigt hack i eggen. Hur lagar man dem? Struntar man i det och knackar på som vanligt eller behöver man fila bort eggen och börja om från början?
Ja på båda! Det är vanligt. Enstaka såna flisor kan man tillåta sig vara ur eggen. Men finns ju nån gräns när man vill fila ned o börja om. Är eggen stökig och lite på gränsen kan man köra på rätt hårt med grova brynet i aggressivare vinklar sista timmen innan knackning. Då blir det lite som att fila, och man får en lite tuffare knackomgång än vanligt.
Peening must be an artisan way. I am 77 years old, have been mowing hay most of my life with the scythe, and have never peened my blade. I cut hay for 25 head of animals and I don't have time for fancy stuff. A good file and steel, like for sharpening knives works wonders, In Subsistence farming you don't have time for all the fine art stuff, beautiful as it is
But then you likely have a grinding scythe. Still if you cut so much hay you should know the importance of having the blade extremely sharp all the time!
Sound like you’re an American. You would probably shit your pants if you used a scythe that was truly sharp. Americans came out with their own scythe style, with a long, narrow, hardened blade. The stance for using one is legs bent, like a bit of a squat, not nearly as easy on the body as European style. You can’t really peen an American scythe, they are way too thick, and the edge will crack because the steel isn’t soft enough. I have a European style, and the American style that was on my family’s property for years. It’s an old railway stamped one, that they would’ve mowed the lines with. I use it for alder bushes, because it can take more abuse. The razor sharp, peened blades are effortless, in comparison.
@@leebdj1949 ok, we have different opinions there. I started my business with professional scything with several years of mowing with grinding scythe as you say. But after giving peening scythes a chance I am now truly believer in those. So much easier in all aspects, and much easier to keep sharp. But of course a sharp scythe is a sharp scythe regardless of type.
I think you have started something. My lady has an old scythe from her Father. I remove it from the attic. Is blade is rusty should I put it back in the attic. If I don’t I don’t know where to start.
oh i think thats exactly my problem with the new blades. the old one functioning is very thin, some ancestor 50 years ago did peen the right way...
the new ones like your new one with no bending at all
Where can I buy the peening jig to attach to a wooden block? Also where can I buy the correct stones? Thank you!
How many times do you need to peen a new blade, with yellow and red jigs, from heel to the tip (for example “Hartstahl”) to make it really thin and prepared for honing?
For now jig peening I try only with new “Gardensense” and two other old blades, go 5 times from hill to the tip,with 600 g hammer, it makes good angle, but by my experience it’s isn’t enough thin, metal it’s not bending-bulging enough under nail or honing stone…
I have new unpacked Hartstahl and Vindobona blades, and want to try peening jig on them.
Maybe you can recommend something?
Thank you in advance!
I usually go one time with the flat and then one with the steeper cap. But note that we sell Jiggs with special designed caps that gives a really good result! Do not trust other designs, I have tried.
But how many times is depending on how hard you hit with the hammer and how fast you move the blade along.
Desde Argentina estaría bueno traducir en castellano o bien hablado en castellano buenos los vídeos gracias
Algunos de nuestros videos ya tienen subtítulos en español, pero podemos seguir agregándolos a más videos.
I realize this video is about peening (thanks again), but since I am still learning, I wonder if you could comment on the technique shown by the guy behind you in the field that I assume is having a lesson. For example, at about 4:00 in your vid. I wonder if your assessment would match what it seems to me. I have two acres of grasses about 1m tall that are now quite dry and maybe a fire hazard here in Colorado USA. I feel like if I tried to mow the way that guy is, I’d be crippled in no time! tusen tack!
Sorry it's really hard to assess as that guy is so far away. I know there is a steep side of a ditch there he is probably working on
Greetings friend! I have one more question if you have time to answer. When i peen my grass blade on a wide faced anvil, i get a real good jagged edge. I cannot get the same results on a thicker, what they call here ditch blade, but i can get a good cutting edge on this with the cap anvil. I know i am doing something wrong but cant figure it out. Thanks.
Hard to get a hang of what you mean. Jagged edge is usually no problem, often just an indicator that you have peened enough.
@@slattergubben6702 what I am trying to say friend, is on the thicker blade, I cant get the jagged edge freehand. I can get it with the cap anvil.
Hey. What is your opinion of the harder no-peening scythe blades? I've heard that grinding them can be a bit tricky but... Would love to know if you have any experience of them.
I'm also curious if you know anything about the scythe blades used in Finland on scythes which cut on both strokes. Any info on those would be lovely :)
Since I live in Sweden which is one of very few countries who used only grinding scythes in the past I know a lot and did work professionally with them with my team the first years before starting with the scythe the rest of the world had been using historically around 2008. Now most people who use scythe in Sweden also does, at least those who use it as a sharp tool.
I see only advantages with peeningscythe and as I work all summers with the team in very different conditions I know they are best in all occasions. Many advantages is not regarding to the actual mowing, non really. It is more about the ease to repair stone damages, honing and peening compare to grinding. And that there is new good gear to buy. There is no manufacturer left who do quality grinding scythes.
Regarding the two way scythe there is one old film on UA-cam which is my only experience as well. They seemed to be used in vast bogs in the far north with very scattered grass, (not dense and thick). They only have a shaft , no handles. Pretty cool way of mowing!
@@slattergubben6702 I'm from Finland and that exact video is what made me curious about the "flip handle" scythe. I suspect that it also used a non-peening blade. It would be amazing to resurrect that technique.
The only other channel which I've heard talking about the harder non-peening scythes is "mr chickadee" and the only manufactured version I found was the "Schröckenfux Scandinavian No-peening Scythe". He said he prefers this type. But since you do this professionally, I value your opinion. Thank you.
(Looking to buy myself one of the two types)
@@Anomalous-Plant and fux grinding scythe is a pale copy of a good grindingscythe with a hard steel in the middle infolded by softer steel. Fux is an expert in doing peening scythes.
Yes, there is many opinions.....a politics!
I also have opinions, but very grounded as I have worked professionally with both variations.
Greetings friend! I have a question. I have been using a wide face anvil to peen with decent results. If this is working ok, is there any benefit to switching to a cap and jig anvil? Thank you!
No, if freehandpeening gives you a satisfying result with a decent effort there is no point of changing.
This was incredible cool. I allready became better in peening, but are still far away to peen as fine like Jonathan or even Ty! Dont use this jig though.
Great to hear! Keep it up! We sell this jig in our webshop with silver and gold caps, and we get them custom made so you won't find them with the same optmized cut anywhere else. But you are of course welcome to order them from us if you like :)
Should all blades, regardless of their style and or origin, be peened? Some youtubers say to peen while others say to file. The common blades we find at American estate sales...peen or file and how do you tell the difference?
Grinding blades was used in the past in Scandinavia by some mysterious reason. And I think still also sold in some parts of US. True grinding blades can not be peened as they are much harder
@@slattergubben6702 Thank you, Sir. I'll take a hammer to mine and see what happens.
I recently got a ditch blade scythe from scythesupply. Should my edge be flexible after peening?
Always
Ok. I will keep trying. Thank you.
Are you an Austrian scythe fan only or can you do any vids on sharpening a non-peen thicker metal American scythe blade?
I have worked professionaly with such grinding blades for years long ago as this was what we had historically in Sweden as well. And I rather just forget those years. Peening scythes is so much better in every different aspect.
@@slattergubben6702 Fella you make me want to move to Sweden! I'm in Ireland. I call them an Irish Scythe myself, but no one else does! Thanks for the reply
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Im curious why you dont use the traditional Scandinavian type hard steel blades that are only ground and then honed but never peened? You seem to prefer the traditional nordic snath, but not the nordic blades...just curious. ua-cam.com/video/_2cWz62F5TI/v-deo.html
Very many reasons.
1. They are extremely hard to keep sharp by honing as you need to perfekt follow the bevel with honingstone. No tolerance for mistakes else the edge get rounded. Honing demands honing on the whole bevel and not only the very edge.
2. Demands a big round whetstone, not really possible to transport to the place you work. Electricity or someone drive it manually.
3 learn to master grinding with such a grinding stone is extremely hard. You want to achieve one grindphase through all the bevel that is concave after the stone. One mistake and you need to grind all again. This is not possible to let everyone do.
4. Extremely intolerant for stone damages, peeningblades you just fold back the bended edge. This can be done 100 times between two peenings and still keep 100% sharpness throughout the blade. Stone damage on grinding scythe is equal to dull untill grind away much material again....
5. They are not manufactured
6. They are in general more heavy.
7. They last for one season pro- use while a peeningblade will last 10 years as material is peened out instead of grind away.
. First years in my career I worked professionally in my team mowers with grinding blades. I will never never never ever use them again.
Of course if you only work in your local garden and have a big round grinding stone , and the competence it take to master grinding and honing such a scythe. Yes - because a sharp scythe is a sharp scythe no matter if its a grinding or peening one.
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Peen 😂
Do you peen the bush blade? Thanks!
I do not like the term bushblade, but yes if you have a peenable one!
I have this question, too. I have a new Fux Austria bush blade (my first scythe) and I don’t seem to be able to put/keep a good edge on it. Any advice most welcome!
@@tarabenedict8416 peen properly!
@@slattergubben6702 so Fux bush blades are peenable? Sorry if obvious, I’m just a bit 🤯
mowing is not for women. women bring water and food.
Hah, you havent seen the plentyful of videos of strong Germanic scytherins with blonde braids mowing thick grass.
Also, more important, gathering and binding sheafs behind the line of mowing men during harvest was "women's work" and it was MUCH harder than ANYTHING said the elders. This bc you worked bent down.
@@jonashellsborn7648 Yeah I've heard local stories of females gathering and binding sheafs basically being so much stronger than their husbands that there wasn't any talk or rumors at all of domestic.. issues, until after the tractor took over in farming.
As far as i know peening it's not just for thinning the blade but also hardening it through the plastic deformation. The edge becomes more brittle but harder.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work_hardening