Учитывая, что этот выдающийся концерт исполнен выдающимся украинским пианистом Е. А. Ржановым, стоило бы обозначить дату записи. Если 7 лет т.н. - то Евгену Александровичу было тогда уже 78 лет. Потрясающий темперамент для такого возраста! Здоровья и дальнейших успехов пианисту!
I´m so glad to hear the whole piece hear finally, after discovering it over 2 years ago! I love the recap at the end of the final movement, and I will love to perform this piece within the next 10 years too :)
Kosenko's concerto is a beauty! It is an opportunity to compare this quick version with the 2 shorter versions (25 min) with pianist Arthur Nikulin on UA-cam !
This supercharged potboiler surely provided many a concertgoer with an exhilarating and uplifting experience, even without the melodic distinction or emotional integrity of, say, Rachmaninoff, too much in evidence. It certainly captivated me this first time, especially the tense, quirky, disquieting 'Andante', but I wonder if the Concerto would maintain a comparable degree of interest with repeated hearings without beginning to seem to some degree like empty rhetoric. It might just be rewarding (and fun!) to try and see if it does; I think it has at least an even chance..
People say they hear Rachmaninoff here.. So what???? This is a great concerto. Great piano stuff in here. I can also hear some Bortkiewicz. The result is nice.
If you have files of some of your grandfather's orchestral works, I would be very pleased to upload them... Corentin Boissier (collectionCB, collectionCB2, collectionCB3, collectionCB4 & collectionCB5)
Fantastic! A beautiful late-romantic-era concerto that is a delight to hear. Corentin, you have worked your "magic spell" again to obtain this recording! Merci mille fois!!
I just love the over the top do everything a piano can do romanticism of the 1st movement. Hommage to Rocky 2nd ? I wonder how much of the 2nd and 3rd movements are really Kosenko ? I'm not such a jaded cynic that echoes of Rachmaninoff disturb me. Really well done, enjoy this very much.
Does the moment at 17:30 in this recording ua-cam.com/video/CiYk6zUVDoA/v-deo.html appear in the version finished by Revutsky and Maiboroda, if so where (its one of my favourite bits in the concerto)
Nice piece but I actually prefer Kosenko Violin Concerto to this. I'm also going to go on a limb here and propose that conductor is not Volodymyr Litvinenko but Svyatoslav Litvinenko and the orchestra is Kiev Operetta.
It is composed in 1928 and lost parts of 2nd,3rd movement during World War II (1939-1945) but later completed in 1937? Do I misunderstand something...?
fun piece ....but pretty much imitation Rachmaninoff #2 (even in same key), like about 50 other piano concertos (Holbrooke #1, Pingoud #2, etc.) written post-1902 thru the 1940's.
Можна подивуватися, як національний шар проглядається в творчості українських композиторів, у спротив московсько-більшовицькому "пафоса страітєльства нового общєства"...
К слову, я сам презираю варварский поступок большевиков, но стоит учитывать, что Косенко родился в Петербурге и учился в Санкт-Петербургской консерватории. Поэтому говорить, что здесь нет русского влияния - глупость.
In the 1920's Rachmaninov was enjoying perhaps his greatest years and I believe Kosenko would have known this. Heavily influenced, he produced this concerto but sadly failed to match up to Rachmaninov's mastery in orchestration. The piano writing is simply stunning, such a shame it has fallen into neglect. I would demand a revival, but fear from opposition that Rachmaninov is superior. It probably is, but what the hell!!
@@steveegallo3384🌹 Dear Steve, We're just writing about music. I erased the heart. Check out other comments. I don't want to hurt anyone. With sincerely, Marcela🌼
@@marcela77777 -- I wish only that it were so simple, dear Marcela...that all the lascivious innuendo could be air-brushed with erasure of a single heart...all the Hurt you caused among the innocent and naïve. I think I speak for all of our Calvinist and Methodist interlocutors when I declare that the road to Gethsemane is paved with the ballast of galleons and the shipwrecks of galaxies.....A Warm Embrace to you too 🌹 !
Kosenko solo piano music is more interesting. Beautiful, great personality, variety of accents and touch, intimately delicate, romantic, passionate. I'd not share enthusiasm of many herewith about piano concerto. Sorry to sing outside the chorus here, but my opinion is worth as much as that of this concertos lovers. First movement is a concentration of molasses too much adhering to the worst Hollywoodian noments of Rachmaninoff (whose piano solo pieces are also way better than his concertos, same as what happens to Kosenko). Second movement is more intimate, lesser melodramatic shouting, more genuine romanticism. Third movement is back to Rachmaninoff, but fortunately inspired by the best of him with some scent of older masters like Tchaikovsky and even some Mendelssohn-like passages. Drier and more focused, lesser easy to listen effects. In a nutshell it would have been a good concerto by keeping emotional waves of first movement under some more virile control.
Учитывая, что этот выдающийся концерт исполнен выдающимся украинским пианистом Е. А. Ржановым, стоило бы обозначить дату записи. Если 7 лет т.н. - то Евгену Александровичу было тогда уже 78 лет. Потрясающий темперамент для такого возраста! Здоровья и дальнейших успехов пианисту!
Viktor Kosenko - Piano Concerto in C minor, Op. 23
1. - Allegro: 0:00
2. - Andante con moto: 19:42
3. - Finale: Allegro moderato: 30:17
Wonderful concerto in the romantic tradition. Well orchestrated and very good performance.
I´m so glad to hear the whole piece hear finally, after discovering it over 2 years ago! I love the recap at the end of the final movement, and I will love to perform this piece within the next 10 years too :)
halftime. hows it going?
@@maximilianb.8789 good question! I have the score so far.
@@DanielRobertspiano may i ask how you acquired the scores? I have been skimming the internet for them - to no avail.
@@katrmior no success I’m afraid either. They just publish it before too long.
@@katrmior I mean for the 2nd and 3rd movements.
Kosenko's concerto is a beauty! It is an opportunity to compare this quick version
with the 2 shorter versions (25 min) with pianist Arthur Nikulin on UA-cam !
This supercharged potboiler surely provided many a concertgoer with an exhilarating and uplifting experience, even without the melodic distinction or emotional integrity of, say, Rachmaninoff, too much in evidence. It certainly captivated me this first time, especially the tense, quirky, disquieting 'Andante', but I wonder if the Concerto would maintain a comparable degree of interest with repeated hearings without beginning to seem to some degree like empty rhetoric. It might just be rewarding (and fun!) to try and see if it does; I think it has at least an even chance..
Glad to finally get a chance to hear the whole concerto. It's terrific.
Yes! I love it!
Definitely a "must hear ". Thks much!!
First time i'm hearing to the complete concerto!
Marvelous!
Надзвичайно!❤
People say they hear Rachmaninoff here.. So what???? This is a great concerto. Great piano stuff in here. I can also hear some Bortkiewicz. The result is nice.
This is my grandpa my name is freakin Ivan Kosenko
If you have files of some of your grandfather's orchestral works, I would be very pleased to upload them...
Corentin Boissier (collectionCB, collectionCB2, collectionCB3, collectionCB4 & collectionCB5)
ur grandpa is a god
Excellent.
Excellent concerto!
Excellent! Et la partie pour piano est vraiment bien écrite.
Excellent! I wonder if Hyperion knows about this one...
Fantastic! A beautiful late-romantic-era concerto that is a delight to hear. Corentin, you have worked your "magic spell" again to obtain this recording! Merci mille fois!!
Great!
I just love the over the top do everything a piano can do romanticism of the 1st movement. Hommage to
Rocky 2nd ? I wonder how much of the 2nd and 3rd movements are really Kosenko ? I'm not such a jaded
cynic that echoes of Rachmaninoff disturb me. Really well done, enjoy this very much.
Rocky?
@@andrewpetersen5272 -- Probably Rakhmaninov....not Sylvester Stallone.....
Does the moment at 17:30 in this recording ua-cam.com/video/CiYk6zUVDoA/v-deo.html appear in the version finished by Revutsky and Maiboroda, if so where (its one of my favourite bits in the concerto)
Nice piece but I actually prefer Kosenko Violin Concerto to this. I'm also going to go on a limb here and propose that conductor is not Volodymyr Litvinenko but Svyatoslav Litvinenko and the orchestra is Kiev Operetta.
Thank you very much for these precious informations!
Corentin Boissier (collectionCB, collectionCB2, collectionCB3, collectionCB4 & collectionCB5)
19:44
30:17
It is composed in 1928 and lost parts of 2nd,3rd movement during World War II (1939-1945) but later completed in 1937? Do I misunderstand something...?
Who is the owner of (IPR) rights to Kosenko's oeuvre (all known production)
fun piece ....but pretty much imitation Rachmaninoff #2 (even in same key), like about 50 other piano concertos (Holbrooke #1, Pingoud #2, etc.) written post-1902 thru the 1940's.
There are similarities yes, but this is a unique job! And never forget that C minor is every piano composer's favorite tone.
Можна подивуватися, як національний шар проглядається в творчості українських композиторів, у спротив московсько-більшовицькому "пафоса страітєльства нового общєства"...
К слову, я сам презираю варварский поступок большевиков, но стоит учитывать, что Косенко родился в Петербурге и учился в Санкт-Петербургской консерватории. Поэтому говорить, что здесь нет русского влияния - глупость.
Kosenko, this piece
is so nice ! 👌
Interesting music than Rachmaninoff music !
In the 1920's Rachmaninov was enjoying perhaps his greatest years and I believe Kosenko would have known this. Heavily influenced, he produced this concerto but sadly failed to match up to Rachmaninov's mastery in orchestration.
The piano writing is simply stunning, such a shame it has fallen into neglect. I would demand a revival, but fear from opposition that Rachmaninov is superior. It probably is, but what the hell!!
Amazing, dear David !
Thank you for this comment! 👌❤️🌹
Weberlina
@@marcela77777 Thank you so much Marcela. As always, a pleasure. x
@@marcela77777 -- OK, you two...there's kids here...control yourselves....rent the bridal suite......
@@steveegallo3384🌹
Dear Steve, We're just writing about music. I erased the heart. Check out other comments. I don't want to hurt anyone.
With sincerely, Marcela🌼
@@marcela77777 -- I wish only that it were so simple, dear Marcela...that all the lascivious innuendo could be air-brushed with erasure of a single heart...all the Hurt you caused among the innocent and naïve. I think I speak for all of our Calvinist and Methodist interlocutors when I declare that the road to Gethsemane is paved with the ballast of galleons and the shipwrecks of galaxies.....A Warm Embrace to you too 🌹 !
I must say that in Ukraine no one play this concerto. I can confirm not in Kiev or odessa.
That's a shame then. But then again, Far Right 'nationalists' are not known for their culture.
@@tonylogan4092 We know our culture!!
@@ОленаОдесюк You don't.
Kosenko solo piano music is more interesting. Beautiful, great personality, variety of accents and touch, intimately delicate, romantic, passionate. I'd not share enthusiasm of many herewith about piano concerto. Sorry to sing outside the chorus here, but my opinion is worth as much as that of this concertos lovers.
First movement is a concentration of molasses too much adhering to the worst Hollywoodian noments of Rachmaninoff (whose piano solo pieces are also way better than his concertos, same as what happens to Kosenko).
Second movement is more intimate, lesser melodramatic shouting, more genuine romanticism.
Third movement is back to Rachmaninoff, but fortunately inspired by the best of him with some scent of older masters like Tchaikovsky and even some Mendelssohn-like passages. Drier and more focused, lesser easy to listen effects.
In a nutshell it would have been a good concerto by keeping emotional waves of first movement under some more virile control.
Amazing comment! 🌹
Like others have said lots of rachmaninoff. Direct quotes even. This concerto misses the mark.
Lots of Rachmaninoff here.
Це тільки ваша думка!.. Обоє були композиторами і піаністами, жили й творили в один час!