I have no memory of when I heard this work - probably somewhere around 2019 - but this sounds like one of the most brilliant Romantic piano concerti - Moszkowski- or Scharwenka-level brilliant, and the melodic lines are waking up in my head after a 5-year slumber. And the like under the video is a proof of that. Thank you for this beauty!
Yes, Massimo, it is certainly Schumannesque. It's great how lesser-known composers of such high quality as Thuille are now being heard on you tube. It's really great too, that many videos give mini biographies and anecdotes about various composers.
I must have upward of 300 CDs of 19th century piano concerti but the fine orchestral writing and the piano melody - the third movement - "Let's send them home happy" is one of the most engaging. Edward Veitch
Edward Veitch 300 cds? Probably there are many recordings of the same concertos, because I doubt that there were written 600 piano concertos in the 19th century.
Ederson Urias err... don't think so. I bet there were more like 900. They are still discovering and recording them by obsolete composers as I type this reply!!!
@@mstawse2966 counting 40 odd composers on my list with well over 100 concerto's. My favorites are Martucci 1 (that I personally find stunning), Urspruch, Raff (Suite in e-flat is totally brilliant) but the list of concertos that are well worth listening to goes on and on. Brace yourself for those of Rubinstein, Charwenka, Moskowsky, Stenhammar, Reineke, Rheinberger (all on UA-cam)
What a discovery this is,I must get the cd on CPO, coupled with his Symphony in F...never heard of this composer,so thought I would give this concerto a spin, very pleasantly surprised...googled him, and he knew Richard Strauss, and taught the light music composer Leroy Anderson, and he also had connections with Ernest Bloch..why is his music so neglected?....thanks for posting, and broadening my horizons even further..if you like this, try the music of Ferdinand Ries(who wrote symphonies, and 8 piano concertos),who was a pupil of Beethoven,to which the influence of the master does come though in Ries` compositions..
Beau concerto, bien construit sous des airs nonchalants, orchestration solide, le tout net et équilibré fait songer à Saint-Saens à maints égards... Et superbe moustache !!!!!
Influences? Si l’on prend une tonalité,une période musicale,un instrument,un musicien dans son époque,peut-il échapper à certaines « influences »? A moins de vivre sous cloche, et, hors de son temps! Écoutez seulement,sans chercher à quoi cela peut ressembler.
@@catherinebalestie3783 I agree. Many composers were influenced by other composers much more then music historians like to admit. Beethoven, for instance was greatly influenced by many other composers. People like to think of Beethoven as "the great original composer" but he was influenced by Mozart, Haydn, Johann Sterkel, Justin Heinrich Knecht, Muzio Clementi, J L Dussek, and others. No composer works in a vacuum.
@@catherinebalestie3783 Saint-Saëns a également eu de nombreuses influences. C'est juste amusant de constater les similitudes entre ces deux compositeurs. (excuse my french)
When the world bends around itself, when the structures of a civilization falter, it is good to return to that which in history does not bend, but on the contrary recovers courage, gathers the separated, pacifies without bruising. It is worth recalling that the genius of creation is also at work in a history more and more devoted to the destruction
Am I going mad, but didn't you make the same comment whilst listening to Elliott Carter's Variations for Orchestra. Is there some connection between the two works that only you know about???
He cites an excerpt from Camus' article dedicated to Mozart: www.lexpress.fr/culture/livre/1956-camus-remerciement-a-mozart_1999289.html#YMKTaWh27O4T8E9H.01
Buen concierto. Musicalmente muy colorido. Coincido con Mr. Knapp en que se nota la influencia de Saint-Saenz, pero con un toque muy individual. Muy bien interpretado tambien.
Es ist doch gute Musik! Überhaupt nicht epigonenhaft, pianistisch höchst anspruchsvoll, hört sich mit Interesse an. Genügt das nicht, um aufgeführt zu werden?
A large part/the theme of the second movement has a direct relationship with a Chopin scherzo, with less invention and beauty, but the whole composition is beautiful, deserves more attantion than forgetting.
This is more than a punctuation in the steady stream of overplayed classics by the musical mainstream. For instance, as great a fan as I am of Brahms, I am not a fan of his celebrated 2nd piano concerto, it strikes me as contrived and overworked. This is the antithesis of that... eloquent, succinct, and arresting.
Played too fast, too little emphasis on melodic line. Try to listen at 0.75 of normal speed, and be prepared for a new, much more enjoyable experience, despite blurred notes here and there.
Sorry sir, but Ludwig Thuille was born in Bolzano / Bozen, Italy. I recognize Bozen was still Austria during Thuille's life and that perhaps, yet today, a minority of Alto Adige / Süd Tyrol people would like to return under Austrian rule. However, today he should be considered an Italian musician. Conversely, to apply same rule, Giuseppe Tartini is to be considered a Slovenian musician as Piran (Venice Republic territory, at time of Tartini) is now ruled by Slovenians and not by Italians
Ludwig Thuille was born in Bozen (Süd-Tirol), today Italy, but as a orphan-child in young years in Austria he found a new home in Munic/Germany. After some years of studies he became professor for the master class of piano at the Munic Music Scool. He was a close friend of Richard Strauss, who was younger as Thuille.
@@lucfournier4228 attention..... je ne critique pas du tout ni le pianiste ni l'orchestre que du reste je trouve vraiment bons, c'est juste que la composition elle meme ne me touche pas du tout (tres subjectif bien sur) ;-)
I just love it when I find these superb pieces from lesser known composers.
I have no memory of when I heard this work - probably somewhere around 2019 - but this sounds like one of the most brilliant Romantic piano concerti - Moszkowski- or Scharwenka-level brilliant, and the melodic lines are waking up in my head after a 5-year slumber. And the like under the video is a proof of that. Thank you for this beauty!
Was für eine großartige Musik!
I love it.
But never ever heard about the composer.
Thank you.
A refined and rather nice concerto. Thuille was a very good musician who always seemed to know what his public would like.
It’s absolutely wonderful!
The first movement, I don’t know why, reminds me the III mov. of Schumann’s Piano Concerto.
Awesome!🎼👏
Yes, Massimo, it is certainly Schumannesque. It's great how lesser-known composers of such high quality as Thuille are now being heard on you tube. It's really great too, that many videos give mini biographies and anecdotes about various composers.
I must have upward of 300 CDs of 19th century piano concerti but the fine orchestral writing and the piano melody - the third movement - "Let's send them home happy" is one of the most engaging. Edward Veitch
Edward Veitch 300 cds? Probably there are many recordings of the same concertos, because I doubt that there were written 600 piano concertos in the 19th century.
Ederson Urias err... don't think so. I bet there were more like 900. They are still discovering and recording them by obsolete composers as I type this reply!!!
@@mstawse2966 counting 40 odd composers on my list with well over 100 concerto's. My favorites are Martucci 1 (that I personally find stunning), Urspruch, Raff (Suite in e-flat is totally brilliant) but the list of concertos that are well worth listening to goes on and on. Brace yourself for those of Rubinstein, Charwenka, Moskowsky, Stenhammar, Reineke, Rheinberger (all on UA-cam)
Bravo brilliance music concerto
Magnifique!! Un pur régal !.. 🎶💓🎶✨
Love the combination of handsome Thuille and a handsome landscape!
Just beautiful music.
What a discovery this is,I must get the cd on CPO, coupled with his Symphony in F...never heard of this composer,so thought I would give this concerto a spin, very pleasantly surprised...googled him, and he knew Richard Strauss, and taught the light music composer Leroy Anderson, and he also had connections with Ernest Bloch..why is his music so neglected?....thanks for posting, and broadening my horizons even further..if you like this, try the music of Ferdinand Ries(who wrote symphonies, and 8 piano concertos),who was a pupil of Beethoven,to which the influence of the master does come though in Ries` compositions..
Thuille died the year before Anderson was born. He taught Anderson's harmony teacher, Walter Spalding, not Anderson himself.
wunderbares zusammenspiel von pianist und orchester in einem sehr hübschen stück. herzlichen dank für die aufnahme!
Beau concerto, bien construit sous des airs nonchalants, orchestration solide, le tout net et équilibré fait songer à Saint-Saens à maints égards... Et superbe moustache !!!!!
excelente interpretacion y hermosas combinacion de sonidos coloridos
mercy a celui qui a mi en ligne cette composition exeptionnelle tres bon concerto que j'ecoute souvant!
A fine concerto with some fine pianistic writing
I effin love this concerto!! :)
спасибо. за. изобилие. классической. музыки. ярослав
, _, сейчас. смотрю. новый. фортепианный. концерт спасибо
Sounds like Moszkowski Concerto no. 2 in E Major
I love it!!!
I hear the influence of Saint-Seans in this concerto.
Todos los musicos siempre tienen influencia unos sobre los otros, ya que la musica es un lenguaje universal.
agreed.
Influences? Si l’on prend une tonalité,une période musicale,un instrument,un musicien dans son époque,peut-il échapper à certaines « influences »? A moins de vivre sous cloche, et, hors de son temps! Écoutez seulement,sans chercher à quoi cela peut ressembler.
@@catherinebalestie3783 I agree. Many composers were influenced by other composers much more then music historians like to admit. Beethoven, for instance was greatly influenced by many other composers. People like to think of Beethoven as "the great original composer" but he was influenced by Mozart, Haydn, Johann Sterkel, Justin Heinrich Knecht, Muzio Clementi, J L Dussek, and others. No composer works in a vacuum.
@@catherinebalestie3783 Saint-Saëns a également eu de nombreuses influences. C'est juste amusant de constater les similitudes entre ces deux compositeurs. (excuse my french)
When the world bends around itself, when the structures of a civilization falter, it is good to return to that which in history does not bend, but on the contrary recovers courage, gathers the separated, pacifies without bruising. It is worth recalling that the genius of creation is also at work in a history more and more devoted to the destruction
Well said, Philppe!
Am I going mad, but didn't you make the same comment whilst listening to Elliott Carter's Variations for Orchestra.
Is there some connection between the two works that only you know about???
He cites an excerpt from Camus' article dedicated to Mozart: www.lexpress.fr/culture/livre/1956-camus-remerciement-a-mozart_1999289.html#YMKTaWh27O4T8E9H.01
Such pretentious claptrap!!
Buen concierto. Musicalmente muy colorido. Coincido con Mr. Knapp en que se nota la influencia de Saint-Saenz, pero con un toque muy individual. Muy bien interpretado tambien.
Es ist doch gute Musik! Überhaupt nicht epigonenhaft, pianistisch höchst anspruchsvoll, hört sich mit Interesse an. Genügt das nicht, um aufgeführt zu werden?
Beautiful!
Awesome concerto! I love the buildup from 4:13 to 4:24, it's so intense! But then the climax afterwards is too short! I want MORE!!!
Que obra tan hermosa, un placer para el oído.
No es nada escribirlo, tienes que escucharlo para creerlo............. ;)
Very beautiful concerto. Lovely passage between 20:26 and 21:31
Wunderbar
❤
Good, indeed. Here and there reminds me Saint-Saens, young Brahms, and why not, Chopin of course.
Call it a reach but 00:54 reminds very much of the Final from Franck's Opus 23! Both composed in 1886!
anyone's got any idea where I could find the full score for this little gem? No luck so far...
Show, muito bom.
Sonzera paulada show
A large part/the theme of the second movement has a direct relationship with a Chopin scherzo, with less invention and beauty, but the whole composition is beautiful, deserves more attantion than forgetting.
Yes, Chopin's Scherzo No. 2 in B-Flat Minor, middle section, but mainly the first four notes of the theme.
@@rogerknox9147 I think it s kind of a homage, like, "While you're listening to my concerto, don't forget this beautiful piece by Chopin".
Wow
Where can one acquire the published score of this concerto?
This is more than a punctuation in the steady stream of overplayed classics by the musical mainstream. For instance, as great a fan as I am of Brahms, I am not a fan of his celebrated 2nd piano concerto, it strikes me as contrived and overworked. This is the antithesis of that... eloquent, succinct, and arresting.
Hübsch.
Played too fast, too little emphasis on melodic line. Try to listen at 0.75 of normal speed, and be prepared for a new, much more enjoyable experience, despite blurred notes here and there.
Because it IS a delightful romantic piece. Really a pity it's potential is not explored.
Sorry to be nit picking - he was Austrian. Of course he must have SPOKEN German...
It's not nit picking! Calling an Austrian German is like calling a Canadian American or calling an Irishman English.
Sorry sir, but Ludwig Thuille was born in Bolzano / Bozen, Italy. I recognize Bozen was still Austria during Thuille's life and that perhaps, yet today, a minority of Alto Adige / Süd Tyrol people would like to return under Austrian rule. However, today he should be considered an Italian musician. Conversely, to apply same rule, Giuseppe Tartini is to be considered a Slovenian musician as Piran (Venice Republic territory, at time of Tartini) is now ruled by Slovenians and not by Italians
Ludwig Thuille was born in Bozen (Süd-Tirol), today Italy, but as a orphan-child in young years in Austria he found a new home in Munic/Germany. After some years of studies he became professor for the master class of piano at the Munic Music Scool. He was a close friend of Richard Strauss, who was younger as Thuille.
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une musique qui sert a rien a mon sens
Au plaisir, peut-être...Ce qui n'est pas mince, à mon sens!
@@lucfournier4228 attention..... je ne critique pas du tout ni le pianiste ni l'orchestre que du reste je trouve vraiment bons, c'est juste que la composition elle meme ne me touche pas du tout (tres subjectif bien sur) ;-)
Vous devrez commencer de ne pas comparer avec d'autres compositeurs. Je trouve ce concert fantastique, ce n'est pas une copie!! @@kilmer70