My Thoughts on The Richard Stallman Situation.
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- Опубліковано 25 бер 2021
- In this video I give my thoughts on the Stallman situation.
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Richard Stallman's dead body is under a gpl 2.0 license
lmfao
kek
GPL 3 actually
So, if you do something to his body, then anyone else is allowed to do anything with your body as long as he accepts the license as well.
Makes sense.
Nice.
When Stallman dies they will simply take the DNA sequence from him and fork it to a new FOS (Free and Open Stallman) body
just make Stallman ai
@@vipvip-tf9rw Amadeus But Its FOSS, And Instead Of Kurisu's Memories, It's Stallman's
Nah, he would want it to be Libre Stallman
DNA is closed source and had to be reverse engineered to understand it so he will just instantly implode the moment you try that
@@runneypo What's his stance on reverse engineered software? i know he doesn't condone ReactOS but iirc it's because the goal is to eventually run closed source Windows programs
"it's ok if it's with a grizzly bear" - mental outlaw, 2021
internet put of context:
It applies in the law in my state. Look up the Wikipedia article for Mr. Hands. They weren't charged with abuse.
@@oldtimetinfoilhatwearer Thank you for pointing me to that intrigueing Wikipedia article.
Who would have thought centuries back that people would one day intend on just making one type of sodomy legal and not the other, but accidentally legalizing all of it.
lol😂
PACK YER BAGS, MAW, WERE MOVIN' TO THE WOODS!
"At least if a bear doesn't like it... It can kill you." Yah, that's putting it mildly.
No it isn't.
from what i heard, they use sedatives first
@@p0t4toePotato Doesn't seem like they've allowed any opportunity for consent in that situation. Regardless of stance on bestiality, that's just rape.
@@0xCAFEF00D Exactly, I know it was a joke but if we applied this to humans it would read like this: "Its alright to to fuck another person without asking them first, after all, they could just turn around and shoot you if they don't like it"
I thought he was gonna use the human female male animal argument
Oh no, an old genius is really weird? This has never happened before.
He is not weird just disgusting.
@@CanaldoMiauOfficial no u
@@CanaldoMiauOfficial tu
@Finn Scott yeah he talks too much shit
@@CanaldoMiauOfficial So what does that have to do with his work? I'm just curious how a person's personality matters when the work they do is seemingly perfectly adequate and unaffected by their antics.
68 years old and hasn't yet learned to hide his power level... it's amazing really
He's like Freeza. Can't control his own power, and this is not even his final form.
His next birthday would definitely be nice.
this mans name breaks the youtube
I bet he didn't even try once
Ay, yo we got the same name
One interesting thing is that the support letter works without any javascript, while the removal letter requires javascript to change language.
It's almost like the first is for freedom and the second is against it.
that and social media links on the removal letter? i think i'm noticing a pattern here
@Phi6er Freedom for everyone! As long as everyone means cis able bodied men.
What's your concern about javascript ?
the people vs corporate shills
Man I really admire how you are honest, clever and not afraid of calling out bs
He's not as wise as I thought.
@@zvezdan956 to each their own.
@@zvezdan956 Because you disagree with him? If that's why, that's a disgusting mindset. "Anyone I disagree with isn't as smart as me." That's the attitude you seem to be giving off with that statement. If you're not meaning it in that way, then you should understand that the internet does not give off the tone of your speaking unless you do so with your word choice; and your word choice is giving that vibe.
@redwill17 Because he has a pretty feminist pseudo-moral view on "pedophilia".
@@chadm2343 Wisdom =/= intelligence.
RMS will one day die.
People will scream to the heavens for help against proprietary software.
RMS would look down and whisper: "GNO".
I seriously doubt RMS is going to heaven bro
@donald johnson What's a heaven?
This made me laugh way more than it should
@@LabiaLicker He's definitely going there whether you like it or not.
@@LabiaLicker indeed, because heaven is proprietary. He'll make his own free and open source heaven
Message to the newer generations for the open source community
*Reclaim the institutions*
Down with the centralized web and bloated government (I mean, why _does_ each state have its own unemployment system?)
Also learn the difference between free software and open source
FREE (LIBRE) NOT OPEN FUCK THE OPEN SOFTWARE
why even bother with institutions. Historically they throw out and shun people whom are actually intelligent such as Grigori Perelman ( Count Dankula made a fairly comprehensive about him if you feel so inclined ) . Centralisation of FOSS is largely pointless in the long term as most contributions are merely a rounding error when it comes to application efficacy .
If anything I'd argue that IQ should be based off one's ability to appreciate the complexities of a solution to a problem than mere patterns, because really we stand on the shoulder's of giants when it comes to solving legitimately hard problems rather than circle jerking around the lower echelons of the bell curve .
@@zekicay I use the term LibreWare
I really respect your decision to go through the things stallman has said. Most people that I've heard wouldn't dare to mention those
Yeah I don't get it because it's really not that controversial. it just sounds like something an ignorant person would say, not necessarily a malicious person. I guess it just goes to show you that even a reasonably intelligent person like stallman can still be very stupid about certain topics.
@@darkmojojojo if he's autistic and an INTP or INTJ then this is not *that* surprising. Idk if he is tho, it's just a guess at best
@@xXRealXx yeah I suppose so. I just think he's one of those people that is smart enough to understand the explicit logic of things but not understand the implicit repercussions of them.
@@xXRealXx Meyers-Briggs is a cult, without any scientific basis whatsoever
@@jnnx lol no, cognitive functions are useful
Of course, nobody can take any physical action against RMS, because they'd have to use root and chmod to be able to execute him or even write him off.
Permissions of RMS:
d r w x r - - r - - RMS FSF
(spaces because youtube hates me)
the files in the /rms directory are the only ones that escape the dreaded
sudo rm -rf / command (:
@@itz_premium pretty sure that would violate FOSS principles.
Stallman also said he did more research and now agrees that pedophila does harm children's mental state
Got any sources, fam?
@Phi6er the truely smart man, challenges the norm, men willing to stand the tide, men willing to light the match in this giant tinderbox we all live in.
@Phi6er And truly smart people admit when they realize they had bad takes on such topics. His reasoning is clearly lacking here.
@Phi6er or you can think more and realise that "smart" is not a generalised, linear scale, you can be an absolute genius in some aspects and a total buffoon in others. Let's consider your argument that RMS is very smart and thus questions base beliefs of society us mere mortals take for granted. Is this really smart person incapable of reasoning just a tiny bit further that kids brains are not physically and emotionally developed to understand the implications of sex? He's not just questioning, he's asserting that kids won't be mentally harmed by pedophilia if they are "willing participants". If that doesn't sound batshit insane, I'm sorry but you probably are.
Wow I didnt know that... well I support him regardless if we don't see eye to eye. Its good that he changed his view on pedophilia, but that wont change the cancel culture mob
Daily reminder that Stallman always fought for us all, regardless of how controversial his opinions on *philia or politics may be -- which, at the end of the day, are just words. We should, in turn, always be wary of people that masquerade their actions with sweet words. And boy, we have a lot of these.
I don't agree with Stallman's freedom absolutism but my god the man has the biggest balls on earth to fight for that idea. I'll always respect him for that, no matter how much toe jam he eats.
Words spark feelings, those spark ideas, and ideas spark action. Personally I'm not comfortable with someone, who has on many occasions, has said pedophilia/ necrophilia is ok being in a leadership role. He has been told why others may have problems with him on those ideas and has doubled down, restating them. I'm not saying we should crucify the guy, but maybe he shouldn't be in a leadership position!
Steve Jobs was a stuck-up, entitled, terrible person, but nobody cares because NeXT
how do we know it's just words? Dude is literally saying children can consent, that at least warrents suspicion and a deeper look
@@ETHANR26 You have a good point, I feel people should have the right to free speech as I do not want people like this only speaking to each other behind closed doors not out in the open, Who only think the way they do. I feel we should also check if it is only words or actions also, You are very right.
Definitely hit the nail on the head when bringing up compartmentalization - it's impossible for any public figure to be flawed in any non-trivial way and retain a career now. It's not like RMS has committed any particularly egregious acts, sure he's said some very distasteful things and is an all-around awkward and uncomfortable person to be around but does that have anything to do with free software? The diversity-and-inclusion crowd is also strangely silent on this, considering these are the comments of an autistic (and not as in the meme "enjoys Linux" kind of autism, but very obvious autism spectrum disorder) person that simply can't help fixating and overanalyzing on topics that others would consider faux pas.
> The diversity-and-inclusion crowd is also strangely silent on this, considering these are the comments of an autistic
Stallman is known for harassing women. Why would diversity-and-inclusion defend him? His comments and actions are not comments and action of the autist. They are comments and actions of the autistic jerkass.
@@etopowertwon Define "harassing" and then provide verifiable proof.
@@JodyBruchon FFS, it's well documented since he came into spotlight during MeToo in software. For example “When I was a teen freshman, I went to a buffet lunch at an Indian restaurant in Central Square with a graduate student friend and others from the AI lab. I don’t know if he and I were the last two left, but at a table with only the two of us, Richard Stallman told me of his misery and that he’d kill himself if I didn’t go out with him.
I felt bad for him and also uncomfortable and manipulated. I did not like being put in that position - suddenly responsible for an “important” man. What had I done to get into this situation? I decided I could not be responsible for his living or dying, and would have to accept him killing himself. I declined further contact.
He was not a man of his word or he’d be long dead.”
-Betsy S., Bachelor’s in Management Science, ’85
Please provide proof that at least this person is lying or stfu
@@etopowertwon Anecdotes are not proof. You also did not define the term.
@@JodyBruchon For the definition lookup any dictionary, e.g. OED "Sexual harassment". Anecdotes are proofs. That's literally how logic works. If you want to prove that "There are no X" is a false statement, you need to provide a single X. Use "Stallman harassing women" for X.
"He put his foot in his mouth" literally
oh god
I can't even get it closer than ~10cm, RMS must be really flexible
Literally*
RMS only eats from OpenSores
Haven't you seen H3nt41
Stallman looks at the society as programmable language. He thinks it should just work, as the code of programs does. Unfortunately this is not possible, our civilization has so many layers of complexity and feelings and morality that you cannot make things just work, as easily as he thinks it should.
Except GNU is so bloated, he should definitely be aware of the many layers of complexity of civilization.
well look at pc culture, it clearly isnt so hard to manipulate with enough money. We are mostly not much more than trained monkeys, what we want doesnt matter at the end of the day if the ones in power decide it doesnt.
He's debugging
stallman.exe has stopped working
oh and dont forget those that will do anything to take advantage of people to better their own situation, this behaviour is what keeps civilization going.
I totally agree with you regarding people not being able to compartmentalize. The issue is Free software.
If people don't like RMS on a personal level, don't invite him to dinner.
He MUST come otherwise the seating arrangement won't make sense and no one will be able to stop bill Gates from annoying everybody else!
You reminded me of a quote by an anon on /g/: My desktop enviroment could be made by Hitler and i wouldn't care as long as it worked
@@AnonymousGentooman however there are actually ethical people out there that feel the opposite.
@@littlepeon why should anyone care about who made the product ?
@@testacals there are people that have a personal value system, and there are those that do not. If buying a product that is made in the USA, or one made in China, my value system holds the USA product as better based on past experiences with Chinese products-- others will ignore that and just go for the cheaper price. In this specific case I would not value a DE made by Hitler based on his other batsh*t crazy decisions, YMMV.
Wow, you by far did the best job of breaking down this whole situation. however I will say stallman coming back completely screwed the free software foundation. All their funding is being pulled and ironically did more today to tear down his legacy.
Also mad props for going over this content because I know this video will be demonetized or at the very least limited.
Where are you getting that info that their funding is being pulled? If anything i'm noticing a surge of support around him, there's an open letter of support on Github with more than 2k signatures already and counting
Most of the people that signed against RMS are opensourcers working for evil corporations like Google, and that will never ever even use Linux on the desktop nor care about freedom and privacy (only open source, because it makes money for them)
They accomplished the objective: kill free software
You are really here
NICE
hi Chris
An organisation whose existence and mission is dependant on woke corporations who see open source as merely a money making tool and care nothing for free software is hardly a legacy worth saving. DT doesn't usually do a good job on these issues, but this time he really nailed it, the people signing this petition do not give a damn about free software or the GPL. If these people matter at all, then it is their mattering that is the problem. The funny thing is, Richard Stallman is woke himself, his crime is not sticking to the agenda.
>commits wrong think
>exiled
no pedophilia, literally 1984
he was a pedo bro, wrong think is an understatement
"Pretending to support a cause just so they can cancel somebody" //This is so true.
Stallman had every right to defend his colleague minsky. If someone you know is accused of something worse than they acually did then you SHOULD defend them.
When most people hear the word "pedophilia", they instantly finish with "is bad" and if the sentence goes on and actually investigate some nuances then people's brains just lock up in rage mode.
Stallman gave a lawyer-worthy defense there.
The word "assault" should not be used if there wasn't an actual assault and one may reasonably assume that the girl, even if underage, did in fact present herself as willing and in full ability to give consent. He did not say, that it had happened this way, or that it definitely didn't. He described a situation that could believably happen in real life.
Besides, "assault" it isn't the word of choice in many other languages, other than English, that deal with cases of underage sex, so his remark and requirement to be specific and mindful of the meaning of words is actually warranted. I wonder why is US society so crazy and over the top when it comes to sex and sexuality. There has to be an answer to that peculiarity somewhere.
@@vaakdemandante8772The United States when it was first founded had most if not all of its population Christian or a branch of it, and sex is likewise a strong topic in Christianity, with harsh and elaborate words to describe sinful acts of sex. Religion insanity is also extremely common in the US when it isn't as much in other countries despite being largely Christian/Catholic/whatever. That culture is still largely present so not much has changed.
T@@vaakdemandante8772 those little girls are coerced into that
rms has said many stupid things over the years and he's made himself an easy target. Your reading of his idiocy is pretty funny though. Still, without him there'd be no free software movement at all. He single handedly wrote the foundational tools and utilities for a free platform in the 1980s. He brought in a lawyer to develop a free license. Without him it's unclear BSD would have ever survived the AT&T lawsuit, because he created an alternative to BSD that made the lawsuit moot. He's a weirdo. And he says things that make people cringe. But without him, you'd be running Windows right now. And if you are anyway, I'm sorry.
Facts.
Damn bro you running windows? 😭😭 soo sorry 🤡🤡🤡 bet you run windows because you dont know anything about other OS-es. yeah reeeally sorry bro 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
Exactly. All linux users owe everything to this guy. He just needs to stay off the internet unless he's focusing on a project.
@@TeaInTheMorning-we2kh stay off the internet and away from children, animals, dead bodies and his sister lamo
Newsflash, everyone runs windows because Linux blows, and it blows because Linux developers never wrote anything. They never made it good. All the software just sucks, the UI sucks and the drivers suck too, it's like a big joke. They can't give it away for free. And Stallman is part of the reason why.
My thoughts on Keanu Reeves.
"Why do you cum?" - Keanu Reeves
No, you're amazing
Your breathtaking!
Best man ever
god bless Pruane2
Nobody should be cancelled for an opinion and for discussing it.
"Cancellation" and holding people accountable can be a good thing, however, I believe it is unjustified in this instance.
@@nagitokomaeda3237 You don't hold people accountable by going around wherever they might work and get them fired. There are a very few instances where getting people fired makes sense, and that is exclusively to protect potential victims that would be under their supervision, so pedos who are teachers should be fired, or pedos who happen to be moderators or PR of websites that have children.
In all other cases it's merely high-school shaming tactics and harassment.
@@liquidsnake6879 I absolutely agree.
@@nagitokomaeda3237 there are only two methods to enforce social cohesion: shame and force. Force should never be the default, ever. Canceling someone is equivalent to exiling.
@@colto2312 I agree with your point, however, canceling is most often just shame.
I think this is the most balance take on this issue so far. Most others I've seen takes one side or the other.
Wow, I was literally binging rms interviews all day and yesterday in the background
"higher up on the oppression ladder" gold
not only that but truth unfortunately
11:32
Well... He DID put something from his foot into his mouth once...
thats the joke
the whole video was elaborated joke about him putting *something* from his foot in his mouth
Old man screams at a cloud.
I feel like I understand why he is so desperate to not have any software tracking him now.
i'm neither for him nor against.
so where's the letter of abstention that i can sign?
what about MY rights and freedoms of expression?
Python is not a replacement to Bash.
But Dash and Zsh are.
You should definitely have the freedom to express your opinion about Bash either way you prefer, but that is just my opinion. Others may agree or disagree to one or more of our claims expressed herein.
@@thingsiplay I bet with a little tinkering it could be possible to use Python as a shell. It would be the slowest shell ever, but still.
@@charliekahn4205 There are already Python shells. But they are not shell script compatible, like Fish. So therefore it is by design not a shell compatible language. What exactly do you mean by a Python shell in this context?
Besides that, Python isn't slow as people say. I bet nobody knows how fast or slow Python is and just rephrase what others say? Also there are a lot of advancements in current Python version which makes older comparisons obsolete.
If you’re not for his right to freely express himself, then you don’t deserve that right either.
I do think there are certain times when people's actions just ruin their work for me. Bill Cosby for example, I really didn't wanna believe the allegations when they came out because of how much I loved that guy's standup, but when it pretty much got solidified that he actually did such heinous things, it really did ruin his comedy stuff for me. Probably because of how intensely connected that work was to his personality, your perception of him. You felt like you were getting to know him, and now watching it, it feels like a sham, it completely ruins that work.
I think in the internet age where people are able to interact with the creators of their favorite things now more than ever, and artists put a lot more of themselves into work than ever before, people get that feeling they got with Cosby more than ever, and we put a higher expectation on those creators and artists to behave. Maybe that just goes to show how such parasocial relationships can be unhealthy, but it doesn't change the fact that we have larger personal connections to creators than ever before, whether those connections are real or not.
I mean hell, corporations and foundations use that parasocial feel to their advantage a lot more nowadays, look at Nintendo with Reggie. So I feel that's why the FSF has such an issue with such comments, because it really messes with the "face" of their foundation which is much more important nowadays than it ever has been. Which is really stupid and I can't stand it honestly, but that's just the way society is going I guess. I do think ruining someone's career over things they said is really silly and doesn't compare to something on the level of Cosby's allegations.
Yeah but the thing Is that he didn't get caught banging a underage girl, he said that he agreed to it if it was voluntary, that's not okay, but there's a difference, it's a opinion he had Vs actually doing it
@@fissionplane32 yea that's why I said I don't think it's comparable. Just listing some certain situations where I feel I can't "compartmentalize" like Outlaw said in the vid.
@@fissionplane32 it's him constantly repeating that he thinks it's ok. He has been told that pedophilia is rape (both legally and morally) and still insists that "as long as the girl wanted it...it is ok". Returning him to the FSF board puts him in a leadership position.... I'm not saying that he IS going to go molest the young FSF members, however he has TOLD you several times he feels that there is nothing wrong about doing so...
@@littlepeon the barking dog never bites.
Also, again, itsa flipping opinion, you smoothbrain, he thinks it's not wrong, I'm sure everyone has had their own opinions that are weird, he's just very vocal about it, I know I would definitely oppose him and I definitely don't agree with him, but he started the foundation, he put his heart and soul into it, don't take it away because bad opinion.
Also, this is more of a power struggle than anything, those people not only want to remove him, but also the entire board, it wasn't about the opinion, it was for power.
@@fissionplane32 if he actually did it, that would be illegal. If he condoned it, which he seems to have done, it makes sense that there would be a controversy.
*Richard "what if the child consent tho?" Stallman.*
he never said that, ywnbaw too
@@kc1087 Rewatch the video
Richard "what if my corpse consents tho?" Stallman
Karens everywhere: waah think of the children waah
unironically based
If anyone signs the support letter and gets an email about... you know, them threatening to oust you... we've checked, that's actually illegal under discrimination laws.
It's also harrasment so if someone who sign the support letter and gets an email, lawyer up just in case.
I almost don't have a filter, but without the genius. Anyway, this is the best take on this subject yet. Good job.
@Kommissar the numbers dont add up... imposibble
Really appreciate you sticking to the primary sources of what Stallman really said rather than hype reporting what people are saying about what he said
Peer pressure! You're absolutely right. I don't agree with everything what you say but honestly this exactly how I feel about Stallman and cancel culture.
Correction: Stallman isn't just "a white guy." He's Jewish.
oy vey
Thank you very much, excellent report is the best I've seen on the RMS issue. It shows that you really want to inform and want to know the whole thing. Without ceasing to express your respectable personal opinions, you present the proposals of both sides of the conflict. very good quality information
my instinct about not cancelling certain people is just that the canclers only go after people who they have a chance of cancelling. The fans of sexist rappers don't care that the lyrics are problematic or they wouldn't be fans, so those rappers can't be de platformed by cancel culture (and there's too many probably), Also people only cancel people they are aware of . But idk
Oh, Stallman. What a mess you've made for yourself.
it's only a mess, when people make it one. He is just saying words
Muchas gracias excelente informe es de lo mejor que he visto acerca del tema RMS. se nota que usted realmente quiere lnformar y conocer de verdad todo el asunto. sin dejar de emitir sus respetables opiniones personales presenta los planteos de ambos lados del conflicto. información de muy buena calidad
You remind me of John McAfee's quote about Humpback Whales
What did he mean by this
@@syrup7894 you need more baths salts if you want to truely understand the wisdom of mcaffee
I respect a man with no filter, who cares about his opinion
A logical person with no filter is someone I can have a debate with. And I like debating :)
Linux would not exist as we know it without Richard Stallman. Stallman literally changed the world for the better and we all owe him a huge debt of gratitude.
"Huge debt of gratitude" is not the same as returning to FSF. One requires leadership abilities, which RMS have less than zero.
@@etopowertwon I'm not obsessing over FSF, without Stallman open source and the *nix platform as we know it would not exist. I don't give a rat ass about the SJW hysterics because he said some uncomfortable things. This PC world and culture is infinitely worse than anything Stallman could ever say. People need to get their priorities straight.
@@etopowertwon Which is why he's not director or very powerful at all within the foundation.
there are many corporations that would benefit from the overthrow of the free software old guard. the outrage crowd of course remains blissfully unaware of the possibility that their outrage was totally manufactured as a means to bolster the corporate tech hegemony
Take a look at the social media in the open letter against RMS. What does this say about them? Facebook, Instagram, all the good stuff. One can clearly see they don't care about free software.
The support letter now has more signatories than the demand for resignation.
Let's keep it that way.
We need to invent a level above capital letters so we can finally write the word Freedom the way Richard Stallman sees it in his mind
**FREEDOM**
Yea I agree, I'd definitely argue and probably even hate Stallman if I met him in person and had to discuss anything other than technology but that's not even close to being a reasonable reason for ignoring all the good he's done and canceling him.
Thanks for a completely levelheaded comment(s) on the Stallman situation.
this guy is a straiht up savage i respect his bravery
How could contraception be mandatory and how the hell would it be enforced?
if you get pregnant, you get executed
surgery
Male hymen.
I think it says a lot how the letter against RMS has three sections for signatures: the original authors first (way to pat yourself on the back), a bunch of organizations, then finally the individual signatures. Meanwhile, the RMS support letter only has one section, which is for all the individuals who signed the letter, with no distinction between the original authors and the later signatures. Which one of these movements represents the whole community better, I wonder...
You just stole my words in the final part of the video. Keep up your good work mate... great channel and great content...
I support your opinion. He's already been punished and I think causing a shit-storm would make it harder for him to find a other job.
I know this is an old video, but...
I find it interesting that the people so much into cancelling people are so focused on social ostracism. It makes me wonder whether the people interested in cancelling people are themselves terrified by the idea of being thrown out of a group or tribe - like it is a form of projection.
I never tried to be a rebel. I never woke up and said, "Man I'm gonna be a loner." It just happened, possibly because I am just socially maladroit. Or it happened because I can't pretend to believe in things, or engage in social customs which don't come naturally, or because I'm an asshole or deficient in some way. I never made some brave decision to not give a shit what people think. It's just that I don't. Maybe it's misanthropy. Or maybe it's because, unlike Stallman, I have nothing to lose by being kicked to the curb, freedom bein' just another word for nothin' left to lose and all that.
I've just never wanted to be part of a movement. I've never wanted to be part of a tribe. I never want to be in a room with people who all agree with me, or look like me. The obligations outweigh the putative benefits. And when people think, "Well, we cancel someone, and then either they reform, or else we scare the piss out of people who might agree with that person to toe the line," all I see are weak human beings who feel some kind of sick frisson of power by joining in with a mob, who themselves imagine ostracism to be a kind of social death penalty.
I'm not saying being kicked out off the bus is always pleasant or that everyone can shrug when it happens.
I am saying that there is an odd sense, that when I turn off whatever screen I'm looking at, all of the world beyond the room I'm in has the uncanny sense of ceasing to exist.
I'm not insane. But it feels like that.
If my father disrespected me, that would bother me.
But a bunch of shitheads on the Internet? Who fucking cares.
I maintain that anyone being "cancelled" refuse to issue an apology, because all cancellers want to do is make a power move; they don't actually care about any of the BS accusations they're slinging
Stallman does seem like you would have a really good conversation/ discussion with him and his giant powerlevel.
Bit late to this but the problem is when people who openly share these opinions end up in leadership positions the environment around them can become increasingly toxic. I'm not saying he should be cancelled but he definitely shouldn't be the director.
about the coercion thing. You at the beginning of the video stated in the example you gave that something said can be factually correct, but someone may just not like it.
So it is factually correct that if there in fact is no coercion whatsoever, then it should be allowed. Surely most often there could be coercion happening in these types of situations, but it does not void the logical reasoning of "if there was none then...".
But of course if there are other reasons for it not to be allowed, then those have to be taken into consideration too, so it may still be a good idea to ban that activity.
You need to look into Michael Jackson more. He is absolutely not in the same boat as R Kelly and Jimmy Paige.
Well, he's dead, so you can listen to his music without feeling guilty regardless of what he did.
great video thanks i was looking at videos from richard stallman about libre software and now a video about him its just great
I was literally nodding slowly through every word you said about cancel culture. Absolutely sickening people.
Also yeah, it’s quite clear Stallman has no filter at all. So when this whole “incident” happened I wasn’t really surprised to hear him voice his opinion out loud, controversial as it might be.
I don’t think coercion is the only aspect. A fully consenting child should still not be able to give legal consent for sexual acts because they’re often not yet old enough to take responsibility for such an action. Now obviously setting a hard age limit for this is going to be an imperfect measure, a few mentally immature individuals will probably exist above that limit, and mentally mature individuals will definitely exist below it, but it’s still better than not. Where you want to set that limit is basically subjective.
As for animals, no animal’s mental maturity can even be compared with that of a human, unless you want to get freaky with dolphins.
It is always refreshing to see a thinker who is not just blindly following the sheep, on issues such as morality, freedom, et.c.
Facts are more important than feelings.
I usually separate people's creations from their troubled past. Once you read about the real lives of your heroes you realise that they usually made despicable things even within context. Just look at the founding fathers owning slaves or encouraging native genocide, or, more recently, several 20th century 'heroes' such as Churchill or Ghandi promoting similar views on race purity, to name a few.
Yeah, art from artist. But only of the artist themselves kept the boundaries.
#cancelamerica
@@sid6645 I don't see the correlation between free software and paraphilias.
@@RERM001 well I'm just talking about the concept in general. For example: I don't care what a novel writer does in his past time. But if what he does in his past time starts to effect his work in a negative manner (i.e if the author is a pedo and it starts to show in their works) then I will stop respecting them as an artist, and supporting their work.
@@sid6645 Ok, understandable, have a nice day!
Finally a voice of reason. Thank you for not going with the mob.
Great Entertainment and a refreshing take on a very controversial situation
10:55 Yeah I admire how genuine he is. I'd rather know the crazy shit he's thinking than him just never say anything or lie about it like most people. Reality is most people are total nutcases they just hide it
Stallman and people like him who think with logic only doesn't understand that people don't want the world only to work with logic. Most people want to involve feelings in most decisions even if it doesn't make sense in pure rational way of thinking.
Both are necessary. Negating one or the other is foolish.
They hate him for telling them the truth.
Censorship and canceling need to become unacceptable. Stallman discussed uncomfortable ideas. They need discussion, even if uncomfortable. Simply sweeping all discussions about pedophilia under the rug, for example, doesn't make pedophilia go away and doesn't help us understand and manage it properly. It's not something that will ever suddenly be gone from humanity forever. It has to be dealt with, and sticking one's head in the sand serves no one well. And sure, some of the stuff he talked about is technical and perhaps a strange choice of focus, but it's absolutely nuts to crucify him for that. It seems to me, particularly with highly emotional subjects, that most people are simply not capable of even thinking about them without succumbing to a fear response that shuts down their ability to think critically.
Stallman has a long history of trying to understand and decode society. He is a human full of flaws like all of us. He does us all a service by digging into these things and trying to figure them out. In a just society, he would be perfectly free to say the things that he said without repercussions. We do not live in a just society; we live in an increasingly hostile, fearful, hateful society that punishes disproportionately for even the smallest infringement.
We basically are the main character in Love Hina. Every time we slip, we get punched into the next tow over.
👍I signed the "An open letter in support of RMS". Love u RMS
Very nice look into your thoughts on this, I'd be a little more vehement against pedophillia myself althougj your pointing out of larger societie's acceptance of select instances of pedophillia really opened my eyes to the hypocrisy.
This whole pedo-hysteria is literally just feminism:
documents.alexanderstreet.com/d/1000636550
www.smithsonianmag.com/history/what-raising-age-sexual-consent-taught-women-about-vote-180975658/
And people just blindly hating those who do not support the cause of feminism, like RMS.
@@oraora8214 These people hate God's design.
at the same time you got hollywood and who knows what other large pedo rings still at large, and human trafficking
@@zvezdan956 Slippery slope! Don't invoke the magic sky man, it's gonna end badly
@@adityapathak5761 Atheism is all fun and games until you burn in hell.
Our favorite fat “juice” vs red “I will sell you to the alphabet bois for pennies” hat
Every decade has it's evils, and this is the new one... You only have to make a tiny error, and nobody can support you. This is something I see in Thailand, the corrupt officials make sure they can accuse you of anything, not matter how minor, and it means they can act upon you with impunity.
rms is worth far more than any of his detractors. honest, outspoken, and uncompromising.
There is no evidence as far as I am aware that he committed a crime. Since he isn't a criminal all that should matter to the orginization is if he is still a competent developer.
Stallman did nothing wrong, trolls are just mad.
Thank you.
Man 12:00 easy one of the best arguments against cancel culture I heard in sometime, you got a new follower men, keep the good work.
And then you have people trying to cancel Emenim because of Love The Way You Lie.
I've never heard of this. It sounds pretty stupid. Where can I find the information?
I mean, eminem's always been cancelled for his songs lol.
Eminem stills in the game being better than the 95% of the rappers out there.
Eminem is holding a mirror to society and people want to cancel him for what they see in the mirror.
I'm sure it will disappear if you ignore it long enough heh.
@@imgladnotu9527 I miss when congress was having hearings on rap music.
I want to go back to those simpler times bros.
turns out the internet remembering everything forever been a controversial move, and has been generally regarded as a terrible decision.
Until the links expire and the server drives die.
@Fidelity happens all the time, friend.
No idea, but the stallman case somehow reminds me of the Assange case who saw similar accusation.
Put well!
I disagree with many of his statements but what does this have anything to do with Linux? The guy knows the system in and out, his personal opinions on social issues do not influence the technical decisions being made by FSF. The revolt around him is a more exaggerated version of HR scouring Facebook to pry into the private live of an employee.
Stallman did nothing wrong. He just said a thing, and he has said a lot of things over the years and as far as I know, none of the people that read it ended up dead or hospitalized as a result. Trying to ruin people's lives and harassing them for saying things that you don't like, on the other hand, that's actually harmful.
I've been waiting for this video. I knew a little about the situation already, but everything I've seen has been radically slanted to either one side or the other, so I appreciate your more even-handed tone. Not trying to defend what he's said, but also not trying to make him out to be a monster. One of the things I like about this channel is that more balance viewpoint, but also not backing down from stuff you believe. We really need that in today's world.
Great video 👏👏👏! Thank you!
it would've been really rough, making this video
Besides, I often enjoy rhinophytonecrophilia.
The whole removing team glows more than a corporate's neon sign.
Your balanced and wise intelligent view is 👍
Idk what he will say this in video, but he is based
Ayaan K calling someone based doesn't equate to the person agreeing with him. It just means he's honestly opinionated to a fault.
So now, after I've watched it, I can confirm that he is based. The only guy that discussed his words, not just mentioning "well he said some stuff, but he is good"
@Ayaan K it was a joke, though I really find him to be a genuine and nice person, so I can assume I will like what I am going to hear from him
@Ayaan K No worries, I just wanted to point that out incase you or the future readers didn't knew what that meant. All's well that ends well. :)
I don't know where you got the idea that SJWs don't go after Muslims, I see it regularly, it's just not a big deal because Muslims in the west aren't a particularly big deal in general
You should take what he said with a grain of salt ,I don't blame him becuase he doesn't know the full details of the matter.People think that muslims in the west are treated like homosexuals as in disagreeing with a gay makes u homophobic,and disagreeing with a muslim makes u islamophobic which isnt tru and we know that muslims are always open to dialouge and don't wander the streets in parades raising flags. This makes SJWs against muslims not with them and the only reason they would support them is if they want backwards support for another cause which muslims refuse to do.In the end I can't deny he still is a good linux youtuber regardless of the statement he said.......
@@moatazfouad2317 Oh yeah I'm obv not suggesting we crucify him lol, he's obviously just ignorant about this as are alot of people, hence why I'm correcting him
Sadly, I am a Christian who constantly defends Muslims and any Christian who insults them is a fake. So tired of the ignorance because all they know is what they see on TV.
i think he is showing hypocrisy that the left hates christianity yet they support the islam (i dont hate either religion)
@@speckd8465 No, my point is that the left doesn't support Islam except as an aesthetic. They just like the idea of defending brown people but will viciously attack us when we express any sort of religious belief.
respect for making this
love this guy's humor on taking dead plants to his nose joke and its true meaning lol... and he is kinda right despite how disgusting those acts are to me... if they can't stop it completely might as well prevent the negatives from happening is also a valid point of view in a sense... but that is something you say behind closed doors.... this guy is really too straight forward with his views and being very crude about it while making a joke out of it on top of that... i can see why some people would hate him if they take him at face value... but i don't mind having him as a drinking buddy at a pub or a bar.... because he would be hilarious....
his views on underage thing is probably for people a few years bellow the legal age should be taking responsibility for their actions as well... its does not sound like its for people under 16 years old... not really a good idea but its also a fact that a lot of these kids are taking advantage of these current laws... and as for the epstien one yea he is just making sure its more clear cut definition just like you said...
these kids really are being stupid for making him out to be the bad guy.... he is just a straight forward logical guy with no delicacy judging by these things....
LMAO. According to these statements the ancom-left & ancap-right should love Stallman.
And nearly everyone below the x-axis of the political compass tends to.