Why do I need a better coffee grinder? Blade vs Burr comparison
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- Why should I upgrade to a burr grinder? It's a common question that we'll address in this blade vs burr grinder showdown.
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America's Test Kitchen conducted a taste test between a Burr grinder and a Blade grinder. The testers were split on which cups they thought tasted better. Then they called in experts and the experts were split too. So in theory this all makes sense but in practice no one can tell the difference.
Also, the little secret that they don't tell you is that if you decide to get a burr grinder, only the very expensive ones create a better grind than blade grinders. There's no reason to upgrade you $15 Krups to a $50 burr unit. Your blade grinder works just fine. Just stop and shake it repeatedly while grinding. The only reason to upgrade is if you can afford to put a bare minimum of $150 toward a burr grinder.
Disagree personally. £50 burr way better than blade. IMHO.
I love my krups blade grinder. It was inexpensive and the coffee grounds are consistent. Makes a nice cup. You can't adjust the grind size though.
Common sense tells you that a burr grinder is better, so no argument there, but I think the blade grinding of the beans should have been shown because I always got a more consistent grind then that and a blind taste test would have sold it better.
also depends on what type of blade grinder to i know with mine i get very fine coffee from it
@@danieljones1753 fine but might be not consistent enough ... if you grind longly it will be more fineness on the top than the bottom ... I also consider changing since I saw the difference buying the coffee already grinded
Yea there just trying to sell burr grinders.
@YandreL blade grinders do a pretty good job with grinding fine coffee because you just let it keep grinding eventually all the large particles will come in contact with the blade. Problem is it’s impossible to get a uniformly coarse grind for pour overs
Why didn't you do a blind taste test? Surely that would have removed any potential biases, which you outright made clear at the start.
Some dude the difference in consistency is night and day. even if you happen to pull off a good shot, the next one could be terrible on a blade grinder. burr grinders eliminates that uncertainty.
Yeah... Its practically impossible to even pull an espresso shot from a blade grinder. Even with a burr grinder, very slightly adjustments to the grind size which can hardly be differentiated by sight can make the difference from a perfect espresso shot to a shot tasting like lemon juice.
Taco, I agree entirely. As an experiment, a few months ago I tried using my blade grinder which I normally only use for spices, etc. In order to get it fine & evenly ground enough, I had to grind for a long period of time. It ended up clogging my espresso machine where hardly any water came through the grouphead! It was absolute mud! It's great for grinding herbs and spices or flaxseeds but coffee, no, not really. :/
Yup! keep the blade grinders for those herbs and spices where consistency dosent matter as much. Even if you are on a budget, gotta have great coffee! Get a $50 burr grinder from krups to make really decent coffee!
I agree!
i also think that she could get a much better ground using the blade grinder than the one showed in the video... i have to use mine at home because dont have enough money to buy the burr one and its way better. Not full consistent but gets the job done. it was like a tv offer comparisson videos.
I still think that burr grinders are better but it looked forced to be ugly hahaha
I have been using a Bosch blade grinder, the same one actually, for over 25 years. I have never seen a grind this uneven. I do shake and bring the speed up and down to get a thorough grind.
The same here.But I also hold it at a 45 degree angle while shaking quite vigorously. The grinder cost me $5 used and, like yours, is still going strong decades later.
one mistake people also make with blade grinders is pressing it down and just letting go full speed non stop, instead of doing a tap and let go, tap and let go... the tap and release method will generate less heat, while letting it go is also killing taste not only by giving you inconsistency in grind, but also it is heating up in the chamber and basically giving your coffee beans another roast, which is burning the coffee bean, and that burnt taste will also translate to the flavor of the end result.
Great info. Thanks for watching!
You also have to shake after every press.
Her taste test is useless if its not blind. She's already biased by the burr grinder. From several different blind tests i've seen on UA-cam, opinions are always split. And every test included baristas, coffee roasters and everyday coffee drinkers. From what i've seen, if you want a high class espresso (very fine) or a consistent-grind for French press (very coarse), a burr grinder may help. But for drip and pour-over (medium grind), any decent blade grinder works fine.
At the time I found this channel (two weeks ago from today) I was buying ground Starbucks coffee and using a $20 mr coffee machine. I have since purchased 2 gooseneck kettles, 4 pour overs, digital scales, brewing carafes, and a Hario hand crank burr grinder. It was all worth every penny. My morning cup of coffee has improved at least 400% lol. Now I am looking at electric coffee grinders trying to decide if I should spend the extra money on A flat burr grinder like the Baratza vario or just go with an Encore. Thanks for the videos. I just received my Zoka coffee in the mail today, can't wait to try it!
For drip, the encore does a great job! The virtuoso have a slightly built quality though. If espresso, get minimum the preciso.
Wow, nice! Thanks for watching. Like Taco mentioned, the Encore does great for drip/pourover brew.
We used blade grinders for years and were pretty satisfied. One day I saw a GE block burr grinder for sale for under $15. I was really surprised by the difference. Used that for around 10 years. A few months ago I sprung for a Baratza Encore and once again very surprised at the improvement in our brew. If you're going to buy fresh whole bean coffee, do yourself a favor and get a burr grinder.
I'm sure it wouldn't surprise you to learn that there is another, very definite upgrade after that. Flat burr grinders for pour-over. That's the end of the line, though. Then you can just sample the coffees of the world and see where they get all the weird taste notes on the box from. ;-)
Yes, I recently purchased a 60mm flat burr grinder from Urbanic. The 070s with stainless steel burrs was $209. I have found I really enjoy the more complex flavors flat burrs deliver.
Blade grinders are easily cleaned, you have to take burr grinders apart to clean. They hold a lot of sediment that will end up in your next days brew
there are many extremely easy disassembly and clean burr grinders out there. The result you get from a burr grinder is so much better than a blade grinder it makes it worth it, even if it's a hassle to clean.
You know what I think? I think if you're going for an expresso fine grind. Blade is superior. If you desire a fine grind you'll have to have a certain amount of bean in your grinder. This will vary with grinder capacity. As the blades cut up the beans they fold back in on themselves, so if you don't have a enough bean this effect will not be there or it will be ineffective. Don't kid yourself, this folding in on itself method creates a very fine and consistent grind. Some will say, the blade grinder creates friction and this generates heat that burns the beans. Really?
My grind is at best warm. I don't burn my finger when I touch the grind. In fact, I would say warming up the beans a bit in the grinding process makes for an improved and more consistent conduit for a continuous processing. That is to say, the coffee will take to better extracting if the grind is a bit warmer.
I don't endorse these overly anal versions of coffee making. Its filtered water folks. Its 95% ingredients. I used an inexpensive Costa Rican bean and filtered water. I blade my beans every morning. I hit the beans with slightly less than boiling water because I have found that not only is water temperature not critical, it is better to be too hot than too cold. I let my coffee cool while I SSS and get dressed. I hit my coffee with milk 1:3 and ice up. My coffee varies a little bit each day, and I am proud of that. In general, my coffee is consistently better than Urth, Intelligencia, or any other craft/artisan coffee I otherwise visit. My coffee $1.50, their equivalent $4+.
Suggestion: set up this test in your retail stores so people can taste the difference on the spot and hopefully make the smart decision of getting a burr grinder.
Does SCG even sell blade grinders? I hope not.
They do offer a model on their website but it's out of stock, so maybe they made the right choice and gave up :)
Great idea. I’d like to see if the average person like me could tell the difference.
When I use my blade grinder, I rotateit in the air in a circular motion while grinding and I get a much more consistent grind than this. Ive used burr and blade and I agree that burr definitely is better, but with the right technique, blade grinding honestly can be pretty decent
Same here
ahhh , thanks for explaining this. it makes sense now. I don't drink coffee but I'm buying my mom some coffee supplies for Christmas and I know that there is nothing worse than a flat coffee or tea. yuck ! Definitely going for the Burr Grinder this Christmas! Thank you for saving my Christmas!
The outcome of this test was obvious. You need to perform a blind taste test in order to make this trustworthy.
It's not hit or miss: You shake while grinding at a 45 degree angle for 15 seconds. Better still: stop half way to stir the grinds with a plastic spoon, then carry on shaking while grinding. A 2nd hand blade grinder costs $5 and will last for decades. It also takes up less room and never needs cleaning.
We used blade grinders for years. One day I found a GE block burr grinder for a little over $10 on sale in Target. The difference in the quality of our brew was astounding! We mostly use a 10 cup Melitta pour over or a French press. I used the GE for 8 or 9 years and we were satisfied. Then our learning curve increased and a Baratza Encore was recommended. Picked one up on Amazon for $139. I think this was the best money I ever spent. The ability to dial in the grind for the freshness and roast was quite satisfying. These were the step of our coffee evolution.
blind taste test with multiple rounds and multiple people would've been the legit way to do this. The fact that a) you sell burr ginders for a premium and b) know which one is which and already have a bias for which one you think should be better is obviously going to affect what you say.
I have a blade grinder that I only use for grinding spices. I've had a burr grinder the last couple of years and it's better for coffee without a doubt. I also have a hand burr grinder that you do manually by hand. It's good for camping.
Have used a blade for years. No complaints. If you're happy then stick with what works.
I used to use a electric blade grinder and made coffee in my french press. Then I found a antique burr grinder from the early 1900's and what a difference it made. I can make very strong but not bitter coffee.
Yay Gail!!! I missed seeing you Gail. Made my day 😊great information
I spent 12 bucks on my krups grinder and its great. I hear the low end burr grinders like encore have lots of static causing coffee to go all over the place after grinding.
I miss Good Morning Gail, but I'll take what I can.
Will Hall Me too!
I have a 70 year old burr grinder I need to start using. Was my great grandmothers
It's amazing what a difference it can make and I totally believe what she is saying because the same concepts applies to tea.
@@thejupiter2 you obviously don't use a burr grinder. I'd be a cranky bish too if I drank shit coffee everyday
i have a hamilton beach blade grinder and it works just way i want it to good fine coffee
you should have done a blind test, that would've been interesting
No doubt, this should have been a blind taste test. Too easy for your own mind to bias the results.
Also, the blade grinder should have been better at grinding those beans. I used a blade grinder for a couple of years when I got started and I never had the range of grind as seen in this video. SCG might have used too many beans in the grinder.
Videos like this make me question the veracity of your videos in general. I'd have to actually try hard to get a grind that poor out of my blade grinder. That, plus the obviously biased review put the whole thing in question.
Hi Daniel! Perhaps a blind taste test would've demonstrated this comparison a bit better. Nevertheless, this video confirms something that is widely understood and accepted in the coffee industry: blade grinders require greater effort to get a consistent grind, whereas burr grinders are inherently more consistent by their design. However, if your blade grinder allows you to make coffee you love, then that's awesome!
There's no comparison between a burr grinder and a blade coffee chopper, what is there to question about the review? If by now you haven't realized the difference between the 2, maybe you should stick to drinking tea...
I do agree a burr grinder is far FAR superior, but they must have used the shittiest blade grinder I must admit lol
@@arunkumar-cp5sj exotic???
I've just started grinding my own beans with a newly sharpened blade grinder and I have to agree that the results shown in the video is odd. A single pulse and shake pulverizes the beans much better than what was shown. I'm not questioning that burr grinders are superior but the difference may have been exaggerated to the detriment of your channel's credibility.
Thank you for that review. I have been looking on UA-cam for the explanation and you finally convinced me as to why I need the but grinder. I am about to make my first purchase and this information will help me to enjoy my first grinder more.
Well there is a pretty well studied and formulated theory about the effect of the particle size on the 'permeability' of a powder to any fluid. I am going to put it very simple. When you have a relatively defined narrow range of particles sizes in the coffee powder (the case with Burr grinder) the fluid will flow much easier through the powder, because the powder provides more porosity and open paths. If you have a wide range of sizes, the fine particles block the openings between other particles, making it more difficult for the liquid to flow through.
This is why it took one minute less, as said in the video, for the hot water to go down into the cup through the powder from Burr grinder. This alone can cause a lot of difference in the taste.
So not only the contact surface to extract the taste changes with the particles size, but also the contact time to do so changes with the particle size range (more technically it is called particle size distribution).
In addition, the predictablity of the particle size distribution is much better in Burr grinder than Blade grinders. That makes it possible to keep the quality of your coffee consistent. When the particle size distribution is not predictable, you may not find a recipe which would work every time.
All those techniques you read and hear about how to use a blade grinder is just to try and keep the particle size distribution as narrow and predictable as possible. Something that a burr grinder does by default!
Did you turn the blade grinder on and then immediately off? Mine isnt super consistent but not even the cheapest blade grinders are that bad.
The grounds from the blade grinder looked like a five second grind was done.
Just selling burr grinders here, blind taste tests always come up 50/50 between the two grinders. You can't tell the difference people, sorry save your money😂
I have never had that much discrepancy in the grind on a blade grinder - she doesn't use it well. Burr grind is better (for pour over) more because of the lower heat than the grind itself. IF you grind like her you won't taste the coffee. 12-17 seconds on a blade grinder should grind very fine (number 2-3 grind) with a pretty consistent grind throughout. My opinion - she fluffed it a little.
I recently switched to whole bean coffee to see if the difference was really there. I didn't want to invest in a grinder so I've been using my Vitamix blender. First observation is that the whole bean coffee is much better than the ground coffee. Second observation is that my grind has been very inconsistent. I'm going to have to invest in a burr grinder soon. Thanks for the video.
ptrmancini3 I also used my Vitamix to grind beans and got a very inconsistent grind and also got real hot, even with the dry mix container. I invested in a Breville. Much happier now.
@ptrmancini3 : you can buy manual burr grinder like Porlex which gives good consistency, but not too expensive.Of course, if you don't mind work out your biceps and triceps a bit :)
When I blade grind it takes 15 seconds and the grounds are far more consistent than what is shown in this video. Just using Mr. Coffee 12 Cup Electric. That said, burr does taste better, but it's marginal. Not to be confused with the ridiculous difference Gail portrays in this clip.
tbh that was a terrible grind she did with blades, I can get very consistent results just by taking time and a little care. She didn't show how she did but it looked like she gave it few seconds, didn't bother to mix and blend more, and called it good.
I saw thattoo . My blade grinder does better
I mean how hard is it to grab a mesh/strainer, sift the fine grounds and then regrind the coarser stuff.
Exactly. And it's probably overkill for most people to grind the coffee again, but since I'm roasting my own green beans from scratch, I give the leftovers another round in my granite pestle and mortar, because the finer the better.
Burr grinders must be cleaned and maintained, old coffee can go rancid in the gears. They also cost more than $100, the good ones. Go primitive and go with a pestle and mortar.
I appreciate the video, but the taste test means nothing because you already know which grinder produced which coffee. Only a double blind test with multiple participants is a relevant metric.
My blade grinder never leaves such big pieces as the ones that surfaced on her filter. I guess I like bumping and grinding a bit longer.
Gail. Awesome video. Now I know that I need to invest in a better grinder.
I always imagined that it didn't matter. But if there are flavors that I am missing out on due to a poor grinder, I'm going for it.
Keep up the good content!
Thanks for watching!
Awesome lady... thank you
Great vid! Burr grinding definetily a head higher than blade. Maybe you could video about the difference between conical and flat burrs?
You're reading our minds!
I can't wait for my burr grinder to arrive. I have been using a blade grinder and every cup tastes different.
I agree that a burr grinder is superior, but.. it really looks like someone did a terrible job with the blade grinder given the amount of (almost?) whole beans left in the filter. Did you really have to handicap the blade grinder that much? 😅
Another thing about burr grinder is that cheaper ceramic grinders wear out after a while, so you'll end up crushing the beans, "grinding" them off the blunt surfaces rather than cutting them it the sharp edges. The latter gives you more consistent grinds. And cheaper grinder is less consistent at coarser grinds. So if you are buying a cheaper grinder, they are generally more suitable for a finer grind type of brew. For me, it's the Aeropress.
Are u saying that one should rather. Buy a blade grinder than a cheap burr grinder .. i am planning to get a hand burr grinder for 20 dollars .. to test . I am hoping if it could give me atleast an year .
Its like you think we are stupid - a blade grinder is just fine for drip coffee when you pulse it. For most people, there is no reason to spend that much money on a burr grinder.
The only difference it makes to have different particle sizes is that it is less efficient in extracting the coffee, not better notes, better taste, nope, it is just that you can have a bigger amount of coffee extracted, so basically a higher concentration.
You should have pulled someone in off the street for the taste test. We need a non coffee connoisseur to do the taste test :)
Consistency makes sense but I currently use a blade, I like my coffee strong (decaf) after years of coffee due to heart palpitations now. I time measure 2 full scoops, 5 seconds of grind, shake, 5 seconds of grind and mine are pretty consistent. My problem is I use 2 scoops of beans in a 20 oz French Press and still don't think I am getting full body flavor out of my beans. So, would using a burr grinder get me to that point or not.
Thanks for the lesson, but there may be a huge confirmation bias going on here.
I'm puzzled why on your blade grinder there is such an inconsisentency of the coffee? I have had 3 very basic blade grinders (mainly bought for spices) and one of them around 40 years old. ALL of them grind the coffee right down into a fine powder. Although recently I have bought a conical grinder, I would have to look under a magnifier to see any difference in the size. Maybe it makes a difference if wanting to make espresso or Turkish coffee as the grounds have to be much finer. But for every day coffee I doubt it. I'm sure if you had run your blade grinder for longer you would have got more of a powder like I have always done.
No question a burr grinder allows you to make a better cup of coffee with much greater ease. I could tell that the moment I first shifted to a burr grinder after years of using blades. Don’t expect to ever go back.
Great Video again. Great Channel. I've Always wondered why my Full-Automachine makes Bad Coffee Out of expensive beans, Then cleaned everything. And finally it were unsharp grinderstones. I Never expected that
You didn't even grind the beans in the blade grinder. Mine works just fine at getting an even grind without half beans intact... great comparison...
bring . back my sunday's with . Gail
Gale is not here to fuck with blade grinders, not for a goddamn second
I’m only new to all this but in my experience, my blade grinder and French press tastes way better than Hario Skerton grinder and V60. Actually I’m disappointed in the amount of money I spent on all the Hario stuff to produce an inferior coffee.
A blade grinder is literally wasting your coffee and money.
I manage to grind my beans way Way way better than that with a blade grinder
I have a blade grinder and I get really fine coffee grounds . I paid $14 for it and it works perfect. I couldn't get coffee that course unless I literally grinded the beans for 2 seconds.
Blind test would've been the way to go
Thats the worst result from a blade grinder Ive ever seen and you said it took a minute? Ive used a blade grinder just to see if I enjoyed beans enough to justify a larger purchase and it took about 15 seconds TOPS to get good results. I shook the machine a little while pulse grinding and it came out really good. Of course I got some fines but overall it was a consistent drip grind.
I just have a little 20 dollar blade grinder looking forward to upgrading to a burr at some point
Josh Dollins A manual burr grinder is a great stepping stone!
The Hario Mini mill is a good one for a single cup off coffee grind, or the Skerton for a larger amount. Can also go with a Porlex. I use an Aeropress, so the Mini Mill works perfect for me. It is a manual grinder, and it is easy to use.
@@David_Downs they have a copy of skerton in the market . Three times cheaper than original. Seems apparantly the same .. should i try that
* sluuuuurps into the mic *
America's Test Kitchen tested coffee grinders and they think the blade grinder works ok if you pulse it (like a food processor.) I suppose that you would get a slightly more even grind that way. Their opinion was that the burr-ground coffee turned out bitter. Well obviously they didn't control for grind size at all. They didn't even mention trying different settings on the burr grinder to use for the tests. They are great for every other review I've seen or read, but the coffee grinder test was a big fail.
You need a burr grinder to get good coffee. I can't even remember when I last had a blade grinder. I love my Baratza Maestro.
I agree, totally! I don't rely on ATK nearly as much as I used to with their product reviews. I remember seeing the coffee grinder review you spoke of and it was very flawed. The coffee they used could have also been stale which would taste bitter as well.
I have discovered the pulsing method to offer greater consistency as well. I use a krups blade grinder.
Hopper style grinders hold more coffee beans and the container is easier to empty...
Very true Paul!
Thanks.
Giving your knoweledge to pepole what you have is good thing, who knows tommorrow we are going to die and buried with our knoweledge and forget everything so that sharing what you have is really wonderful.
I hope so with God I will participate too.
I use a stove top espresso maker. Stainless steal. What would be the best entry level grinder for stove top? Thanks.
Pretty easy to say ...."hmmmmm..... I taste the difference" When you are selling the more expensive grinders. LOL.
Would have liked to see the grounds before you did the pour over.
Next time we do a comparison of the two we'll do it!
No one over here in Italy uses blade grinder for coffee. Maybe there's a reason in the land of espresso. Even hand grinders have no blades...
Massimo Trento Well there's a better reason over the quality of the grind to why there's no hand-cranked blade grinders. Can you imagine how ridiculous that would be to crank a blade at thousands of RPM?
“a contrair” 🤣
So that's another reason why going to the coffee shop produces a better cup. Sadly where I live there are few places I can go to get a good cuppa. It could be that I just don't get out enough either. I just think I need a burr grinder!
Yes- even the low end of burr grinders is better than the best of blade grinders, which just chop up the beans at random, and repeatedly. We used the Bodum Antigua for years, which is at the low end, and moved from there to a Baratza Maestro for about 7 years, until it ate its drive gear. We are now using the Baratza Encore, and enjoy it very much. We only use it to grind drip coffee, so even though it's not that expensive compared to a grinder specifically designed and built for espresso (the low end there is the Rancilio Rocky, and is going to run at least $350), it's perfectly good for what we brew.
John Avelis Jr. Can't agree more. I do a ton of pour overs, Chemex, and Aeropress and getting an Encore seriously bumped my coffee game up ten notches. I had learned how to make my blade grinder work for me but having my Encore still feels like magic every time, haha.
I love my blade grinder. It's great for grinding flax seed and things like that. Not so much for coffee though.
We are talking a a about coffee
I just got a didica with a pressurized basket so is that really useful to me to have such a great grinder ? do my blade grinder is enough or shall I upgrade?
Good info. But it’s a conflict of interest if YOU do the testing.
Whats the best grind? Medium?
Blade vs. Burr. Dog names. 😂
Love this lady!!!! Lol
It would be more helpful a mate 9 pro vs p10 plus
£16 burr hand grinder no problem
Should be a blind test.
Feels like you purposely used the blade grinder poorly. My blade grinder doesn’t produce that bad of a consistency. If you press, shake and press again, you’ll get better results.
Regardless, this is not a double blind test.
I'd put MUCH MORE credibility if another person tasted the coffee BLIND~they DON'T know which one they tasted. It's SO obvious you have a preference NEXT!.
did she put sugar or aspertame
I only see one coffee grinder in this video. One of those machines is a chopper/shredder. Also, this wasn't a comparison, it's propaganda. The chopper was deliberately used incorrectly to create the results desired by the grinder's manufacturer. This is a common advertiser's strategy/practice.
agree with you, actually we can make better coffee with the "not-so-fresh pre-grind beans" from the coffee shop's EK43 than the "fresh grind beans" from the blade grinder.
Can you make review for peak grinder
My $18 blade grinder (can't remember the brand at the moment) grinds the stuff into a powder in about a minute. I can't fathom what sort of piece of crap grinder produced the stuff she showed in this video. Now I'm going to be doing the side-by-side taste test with a burr grinder, I just got a Bunn LPG_2E used for nearly nothing other than a good cleaning and a thank-you. That's a $900 commercial grinder, and it seems to grind fine enough for Espresso.
Bunch of people are going to be grinding their weed with a burr grinder now.
What a poor blade grinding skill...lol;;
did you grind this with a hammer? what the absolute fuck?
So why does your other video that compares lots of blade and burr grinders conclude there is No difference in taste. In your other video the blind taste taste was carried out by lots of public and professionals and no consistent difference in taste was discernable....? That seemed honest this seems a marketing pitch, a soft pitch but a pitch neverthelessl
Do a blind taste test
"Feeling, my take, better."
Question how do you dispose of your coffee Grounds and is there a environmental way to get rid off them
If you have a garden, you can compost them. If not, just put them in the trash, not much else you could do.
Compost, either home compost direct to your backyard garden or city green bin compost
Or just toss ‘em out in the lawn. Ain’t gonna hurt nothin’
What the heck? How did you grind on the blade grinder to get a result this bad? Just grind it a bit longer and blind taste then.
Of course, when you leave the beans that chunky, you're gonna get a flat coffee. Why even bother grinding then?
Hi Josef! We certainly could've done a blind taste test and will be sure to do it should we reshoot this video in the future! However, it's a universal understanding in the coffee world that regardless of whether or not you did everything in your power to try to make a blade grinder consistent (shake it; grind it longer), it would still have great inconsistencies in size. Next time we'll do a blind test for sure though!
Seattle Coffee Gear you can see chunks as big as half a coffee bean in there. If I with my blade grinder at home pulse just a second the coffee is ground smaller than that.
Maybe you should do a test: best blade grinder vs worst/equally priced burr grinder. That would be interesting.
That's a great idea Josef!
I just received an espresso machine as a gift (duo temp pro) I have a grinder already (cusinart conical burr grinder) even on the finest setting I keep pulling underextracted espresso shots ... do I need a new better grinder ?
Congrats on the Duo Temp Pro! Firstly, we'd recommend using the double-wall pressurized portafilter basket included with your Duo Temp as it's more forgiving with a less than ideal grind. If you're still not happy with the shots, you'll definitely see improved results with a grinder that's better suited for espresso... a couple of the budget options we'd recommend are the Breville Smart Grinder Pro or the Ascaso I-mini: ua-cam.com/video/7gLX7rH71f0/v-deo.html Cheers!
Seattle Coffee Gear what about the breville dose control grinder
It won't give you quite as much wiggle room as other grinders, but it does grind fine enough for espresso.