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Did Richard Russell practice on flight simulator?
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- Опубліковано 12 сер 2018
- We know that Richard Russell's security clearance gave him access to the stolen plane. But how did the ramp service worker fly it so well?
A Horizon worker stole an empty plane from Sea-Tac Airport Friday and flew for more than an hour before crashing onto a small Pierce County island.
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Software doesn’t steal planes, people do
Acrually, if the knee-jerk reaction push for higher security in planes runs it's course, we'll be seeing ATC capable of remote takeover of planes from rogue pilots, resulting in vulnerability to all sorts of software imperfection concerns. (Yes, I saw it layed out as a possible solution. Turn EVERY plane into a freakin drone. . . . For safety. 😂)
You need to remove this video KING. This is garbage journalism. Instead of passive aggressive fear mongering let's talk about the real issue of the guys mental health issues.
There is not one person commenting on here that agrees with the way you presented this story. Why? Because it's misleading and dangerous.
Flight Sims capture the imagination of kids who want to be pilots, allow disabled people to fly who would normally never be able to, and provide a limited training experience for real and learning pilots. Additionally, many people play these games for entertainment value.
Pull the story, drop the narrative and go do some real reporting.
"mental health issues"
that also sounds like another evasive argument attempting to divert the topic to something else, just like how it's stupid to blame games, it's stupid to blame "mental health issues" without looking at potential factors for inciting those issues, the dialogue he provided gave off a lot of clues and potential situational stressors that provoked what happened, throughout the dialogue Russel himself referenced his skin color and minimum wage issues, bag handling job dissatisfaction, etc among other things.
everyone has a breaking point, just blaming something on "mental health issues" is as evasive of responsibility as blaming games.
If I had something like this it would put my fear of flying at ease
Sure kids usually crash the plane in simulators so that's what they r gonna do? I think you r pretty dumb hahaha no offense
My grandpa who used to be a pilot plays flight sims because he is unable to fly now. So i agree with your comment.
@@astraldragon5483 stfu
Yes simulators shouldn’t be restricted, knowledge shouldn’t be restricted. Mental Health management are the solutions we need to be looking for.
This society should just be NOOOKED rocket 🚀 period 😂.. just imagine a few years ago promoting kid didling, etc. 😂. At this point (not all of us) but much of this place deserves a nice asteroid ☄️ or comet ☄️😂
This place is BEYOND FKED… aside from the actual planet 🌏 and animals (not counting “humans” in any way)
This is far too rare of a thing to happen for everyone to get all crazy and start pulling games off the shelf. Come on people!
That is exactly what left wingers do! The immediate knee jerk response is to ban everything, depriving legitimate people like me from saving tons of money on flight school lessons!
747-pilot more like right wingers. They fear everything they dont understand. Just look at how they treat sex education. But left wingers are getting there. Give them a couple more years to be as crazy and inhumane as the right wing
I seem to remember right wing jerkoffs blaming video games in the wake of mass shootings. I've seen this dumb movie before.
747 Pilot: They'll likely want to sue Micro$oft, as well. Obviously the fault of MS -- never mind about suicidal depressions. Nothing like the blame game for fun & profit.
S730SD, it isn't Microsoft's fault. "Flight sims don't kill people; people kill people." Where have we heard that before? But they were the "enablers" and they've got deeper pockets than the Russell family or Alaska Airlines, so they're the logical target. I've enjoyed FSX over the years, but I think it's time for us all to give it up. (along with our assault rifles and other combat weaponry) As a species, we're populating ourselves away from the supper table. As the world gets ever more crowded and toxic, are you surprised we generate more crazies?
Oh my god, now flight simulators are dangerous because one dude taught himself enough about flying to kill himself. Don't forget he also worked there and had access to the plane. Without that he would have just been another flight simulator enthusiast. I mean, I once got my fingers stuck in an electric blender trying to make fluffy French toast from a youtube video. I don't blame youtube for my unforseen French Toast disaster, I blame the dork who put his fingers where they didn't belong.
It's retarded.you would be constanty puking your guts out..if you wernt used to flying all the time..especially sitting in the nose of that plane do evasive manuvers pulling Gs...FFS
OneEyE Monster I think there was a part of the recording when he said he had thrown up in the cockpit.
I heard the recording and awear of that....but flying one of these i like driving a bus
or semi truck... Just like he was freaking out about how fast he was losing fuel, Plus he was UNDER POWERING it...as the pilot was trying to help him lfy it....
Ive witness KC130 exploded on take off or B-1 bombers fall out of the sky...just like the hotdog pilot banking the B52 too hard...
I also did plenty of R/C aeobatics...I toss those things around with plenty of G....Ive also crashed plenty when the wing stops flying 2-3 mistales high from too much banking. not enough power ot not being able to recover from Evasive manuvers.
I lfy R/C for many reasons....
The model just falls out of the sky. It happens fast...and I wasnt sitting in the cockpit getting my brain spun around,,,I know enough about aviation and aerodymic. Done plenty of sim flying and even designed some....i still wont get in to fly one
Flying is onething...if you can keep it level,..... Landing is a different story.
As he stated....He wasnt planing landing it.
it's liberal logic, guns can kill, ban guns, planes can kill, ban planes, my cousin choked on gum, ban gum
This makes me sad, it reminds me of the thing a few years ago back when everyone wanted to ban RC quadcopters just because their propellers spin fast. Fortunately very little happened.
Better not let me get access to a rocket because i still have my atari space invaders game
'Realism'-but the guy is flying a freeware dash 8 on fsx 😂😂😂
The majestic is the way
**aggressively zooms in on that attempt at a VC with the default Learjet PFD to hammer home the realism narrative**
Atleats show the majestic q400. That freeware stuff looks awful
marcranger I know😂 it looks awful
Ahhh i see you are a man of culture as well :)
Default dash. Really?
Piotr Kuler right at least paywere id say
Default FSX. Really?
FSX. Really?
Private Pilots be like
No, probably a freeware dash he got off of simvation or something xD
Fly it like you stole it
OMG! ROFLMAO! 😂😂
he did rip beebo
747-pilot are you really a 747 pilot ?
stray bubbles, No, that is my ultimate goal! I'm just a private pilot with about 200-ish hours of total flight time in my log book. I'm finishing up on my Instrument Rating now, and will be starting to train for my commercial pilot's license soon.
747-pilot cool man. Good for you. My dad was a cfi and taught me. No longer current but I love to fly
He was driving it without any care in the world that’s why he drove it so good
He flew it. You fly planes. You drive cars.
I knew this was coming. You can't always stop people from doing malicious things.
The Flight Sim Deck it wasn’t malicious. He was suicidal, he wasn’t well. His intentions were pure: he wanted to feel the freedom of flight, and he made sure it didn’t hurt anyone else.
Abhiram Srivastava yeah you’re right that wasn’t the right word for his case. He was a good soul. It was a nice change from these mass shootings, and bombings that people like to commit before they kill themselves. My man just wanted fly on his way out.
Poor man
Yeah, this is definitely a Flight Simulator issue. We should probably ban this "assault" simulator. At the very least, limit the amount of barrel rolls you can do.
Or, airlines can just have keys for their aircraft, imagine that!
You fucking idiot, there are millions of people playing flight simulators, I'm one of them, they are fucking awesome 😍😍! Also, that guy had access to the plane, that is the issue, not flight siming
idontcare80 way to complicated in terms of logistics, it's not one pilot flies only the plane with this registration...
So no pmdg cmon man
Alex Osterrieth im also into flight simming the it wasent the sims fault it was poor airport securaty
Most ground service techs are licensed mechanic that routinely start and taxi aircraft. This incident only surprises me in that the guy could do aerobatic maneuvers with the Q400. That is difficult.
asiaexpat62 Can be doneon the simulator. Even with having to deal within its structural limits. Theres features to enact engine failure, engine fire, Loss of fuel, and gliding. There are structural limits based oer plane also within the game. Not all ground techs are mechanic nature. Most put in the steering pin or removal for the tug to manuver the aircraft around.
asiaexpat62, If the guy had practiced these in a simulator, they are not all that hard to do. However, it is hard to do them *_PROPERLY_* ....And by that, I mean to keep the plane within its "g limits" (a barrel roll, if PROPERLY DONE, is a 1-g maneuver). If you put excessive g forces on the structure of the aircraft, it could badly damage the airframe.
I'm literally positive that the guy simply performed the maneuver without having much skill (in terms of the maneuver being done SAFELY). It is a testament to the construction of the plane, that it withstood that, and what surprises me!! (Note that, to begin with, these planes are not even designed to perform these maneuvers in the first place - they are not categorized as aerobatic aircraft).
Now, that said, it is still pretty stunning that he could even perform those maneuvers without a ton of actual flying experience (and that too in a complex aircraft like that). He must have had a lot of experience flying simulators, and possibly some flying lessons in actual aircraft as well (even though it's confirmed he did not have a pilot's license, no one has confirmed that he did not have previous flying lessons with an instructor).
And besides, the Flight Simulators today (like Prepar 3D, X-plane 11 and FSX) are pretty sophisticated and quite realistic, at least as far as the flying *_procedures_* are concerned. *_Feel_* of physically handling the aircraft is still not quite real as compared to the actual aircraft.
Amazing! One guy manages to steal an aircraft and they talk about if MS flight sim should be available to the general public, what about first person shooter games and guns available to the general public and countless mass shootings! Get a grip on reallity.
Tom Strand, well it seems the flight sim lobby isn't as well organized and funded as the gun lobby. Strength wins, weakness loses. Facts of Life.
What about this? What about that? Gtfo
You are not so different from those boomers who blame videogames for everything. You are blaming guns. At least most people with guns haven't ki,ll anyone in their entire life, in COD you do, virtually, but that's worse than actual guns for just enthusiastic purposes.
And I don't have any guns, but the double standard is just amazing to me.
“The Q400 passenger JET”
looool
What do you think makes the props turn?
BigBlueJake you think the reporter knows that and decided to call it a jet?
essel - Maybe, maybe not. I'm amazed at how ignorant reporters are, though. You'd think some of the stuff they take in and speak out would stick in their brain, but apparently it doesn't...
BigBlueJake but then why call a Fan jet engine a Fan jet engine and not call it a caged turboprop engine ?
Just think of all the time Beebo was actually sitting in the cockpit of the plane getting familiar with the flight controls.
I like how his cat is lounging in the sun in the window :)
Should the software be banned from the public? Should UA-cam be banned for showing kids how to drive cars?
The same software might also save people on a plane if something happened to the pilot and someone had to take over to save lives. It would help.
2017: Shooting games are bad.
2020:Flight simulator games are bad.
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the pilot knows what he's talking about. this reporter clearly has no idea what he's talking about. "sHoUlD tHisS stTuFF bE AvAiLibZBe tTO Ze PubLiC?" no, and let's also ban all ground workers in the process.
He is an inspiration! My idol! My hero! We have alot of things in common like I also work at the airport.
oh no
Oh boy. We got Sky King Jr over here 😮😂
Thanks Nate !!
Wow the media and people just love blaming video games when someone that has a lose screw on their had do something stupid! People and the media need to stop this! I've been playing all kinds of games and violent games since I can remember, and I never did anything stupid or hurt someone!!! Also I'm a aviation student and I have and use a lot the Microsoft flight sim! And it's a great learning tool!!! Not just for pilots like me but also for aviation enthusiasts!
So please stop blaming video games for people behavior!
GuimaTasso You are correct as the games are not the problems. It is the people. Bad parenting, low wages, rough lives and media being used as a manipulation tool. Ya, i can understand where they are comming from, but at the same time theres many other factors that push a person to this point. They need to investigate those and not ban something that wasnt the cause to begin with. Hell, look at chicago. Guns are illegal and they have the highest amount of death by bullet. Even compared to Detroit.
Snipe Stud00 well said!!!
Agreed. It is always the "easy way out" that most people want and support. However, it is usually NOT an actual solution at all.
Is the sleeping cat the first officer? 😁😹
This guy doesn’t even know the settings to run
Yea but the feds went through all of his computers but didn't find anything flight Sims or anything regarding flying.
He said the ‘X’ on Flight Simulator X stood for 10 hahaha he truly has no idea what he’s talking about
Probably gets way more trim than you tho
Flight simulators don't kill people. People kill people. It takes a good guy with a flight simulator to stop a bad guy with a simulator. (Satire) Anything can be misused.
I bet Microsoft flew all the way to the bank after all this free advertising.
Guy needs to upgrade to P3D with the majestic Q400, explaining this with a default aircraft on FSX is null and void... side note no matter how advanced these sims are, or how much you have learned from them, it’s not gonna make me want to just take a plane.. that’s mental health and stability. Yea from flying and using study level aircraft in my sim I know how to use checklist and start up 737/Q400/777 etc but I’m not gonna walk into a real cockpit and do it just because I have the knowledge, it’s about knowing your role lol when I get on a plane I’m there to get to point A to B not take it over just because I’m advanced in summing
I meannnn, idkk if he did or didn't, but I can only assume that he did. Simply because he said he has played some video games in his life, he knew exactly what to do and how to do it, and he flew that plane wayyyy to well. He flew it better than licensed pilots in videos I've seen. Plus, I also learned how to fly a plane because of the "Flight Simulator" video game. Now, I don't know everything, but I would feel very confident that I could land a plane with hundreds of passengers if something were to happen to the pilots. I'm not saying it would be a smooth landing or even a landing on the correct runway because I'm still learning about everything. But, I am confident that i could land it without any fatalities. Their might be some injuries, but I don't think anyone would die. I also know that I have only played using an "Xbox" controller but I do have a yolk and rudder pedals I've used. But for now, the Xbox controller just allows me to learn the cockpit and where to set the speeds and flaps and all that for landing. I have landed with the yolk and pedals before, but I'm still learning everything. The "Flight Simulator" teaches you EXACTLY what any kind of plane or helicopter cockpit looks like, all the buttons and switches are interactive just like it would be in a real cockpit. It teacher you EXACTLY what to do, how to do it, and when. I honestly think it's more effective at teaching how to identify the buttons and switches of a cockpit and how to operate a plane or helicopter than an instructor could in a classroom. It's more hands on and you can teach yourself at your own pace regardless of how quick or slow that may be. You can learn on your own time and don't have to work any classes into a busy schedule. Not to mention, the game is WAYYYYYY cheaper than going to school. You can buy and own the game anywhere from roughly like, 50$-120.00$. Depending on what edition you want. The cheaper versions don't come with a lot of planes unlocked and you have to play the game to unlock them, or you can just buy it for 120ish dollars and have everything already unlocked. Regardless, it's wayyyy more convenient and wayyyy more cheaper than going to school...
So if you want to ban flight sims, why not ban your favorite action movie for including guns and inspiring people to kill others? This is stupid
Excuse to demonize video games
Next: Racing games promote violence since you can crash cara
Imagine if they discover DCS
This is the most ludicrous idea I’ve ever heard. What a joke of a news channel for suggesting flight simulators should be restricted to the public. What is this country? North Korea?
One fucking nut steals a plane and crashes it and here we go....Lets ban the sales of flight simulator software.
The end of this video totally caught me off guard
Grand theft auto taught me how to drive!
Recently I spent few hours at KSEA waiting for my connection and what i observed was let say pretty relaxed operation of ground personnel, with lots of garbage flying with the wind. The key here is mental condition of employees. First they should work in pairs. Flight simulators are not at fault, look at the case of German Wings!
Pilots save lives. Software trains pilots. If you are going to start banning software, why don't you start with Twitter? Yeah....I didn't think so.
So, because the “plane thief” learned to fly with a flight simulator, these software packages are now dangerous? Pilots use these things as part of their training, and then there’s the hobbyists such as myself who may very well never set foot in the cockpit in reality. Now, imagine if someone who had been using a flight simulator software package had managed to land a plane full of passengers after the pilot fell unconscious or got sucked out during an explosive decompression. Then these mainstream media tossers would change their tune for sure. I personally think stories like this are just the media making a mountain out of a molehill.
Agreed, this becomes “dangerous”… pfff talk about guns.
But it turns out he didn’t. No evidence he learned on a flight simulator after his computers were investigated.
Learning to be a pilot here and all i need is video games uhh
If he was flying the default then he definitely isn't getting all he needs to know to fly the real plane.I remember when 9/11 happened, they started up with this talk about banning flight sims and then they did it again when 370 went missing. The bottom line is some people are messed up and no amount of banning is going to stop it.
This is why I never watch local news. Props to that guy though for providing his kitty with a heavenly window nook.
The Q400 is not a jet, it’s a turboprop
I wonder how many takes it took him to complete a barrel roll in the simulator.
I think if they wanted to try to justify their unjust point a bit better, they could have at least used something better than default FSX anP3D perhaps and the Majestic Dash.
Fsx is on offer on steam for anyone interested great game
I just facepalmed when I saw it wasn’t X-Plane 11.
Implying that a consumer good should be banned. I fucking swear to god. Scorched earth now.
This video: flight sims are dangerous. me (a self professed plane nerd): 🤦♂️
The news is vilifying MS Flight Simulator X!! Should the people have access to this software? Should the public be allowed to read and write!?!?!?!
Alaska air
*Uses FLYBE LIVERY*
Oh no here we go blaming video games again!
Yea those stunts are totally doable by a first time pilot
If you don't care about dying, you can try anything and it may work out, or it may not. Also, the Q400 is an absolute hotrod when it's empty, so it would actually be pretty easy to do a lot of what he did without difficulty.
“Actually, he did half an aleron roll, followed by a split s...with a rolling recovery. A split s is a dangerous maneuver in that aircraft if you don’t pull the power back, speed picks up quickly while going straight down. It will rip the wings off if you red line the airframe and push too many g’s when recovering. And that aircraft was going straight down for a long time. Not something a “never a pilot” person could do. Take it to the bank” - anonymous
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What are ur thoughts on this? It sounded legit to me, however I am not a pilot.
Why would he care about the wings being ripped off? He probably also had alarms blaring at him the whole time to pull up and telling him that he was over speed. Yes, he was lucky that he didn't cause a complete failure of the airframe, but that's also something that you learn how to avoid in Flight Sim.
Apparently, that maneuver isn’t done by simply pulling back on the yoke? I’m not saying ur wrong, this guy was pulling off maneuvers that an experienced pilot said were fairly difficult. It was just a thought.
I take the media’s official story with a grain of salt:
www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/96ptjo/heres_more_proof_the_fakenews_is_scripted/?st=JKTD57FR&sh=847850a6
He was just screwing around with the controls, having fun, that's how aerobatics were born. The difficulty comes with knowing how to do the maneuvers safely, and this guy wasn't interested in safety, he just got lucky.
Why would the media lie about this, what would be the motive?
i bet some of us can start the pmdg 737ngx in fsx.
Ban this news first, for telling people the exact name of the simulator
he ride it like he stole it
Yes he did. He said this during the flight
Ban all simulators, now! In fact, ban airplanes! NOW.
I’ve played flight sim X and infinite flight so much,I really do feel I Can fly an aicraft easily irl
Not only the flight sims,I do a lot of reaserching,I understand all the essentials that u need to know from all of that 😉
Get a proper Simulator and we talk later again
It's... not a jet. A turboprop.
Another incident where video games are to blame right?
Anybody actually see him flying that plane?
Why would the game maker .. same as driving simulation. Dude gets in a 1000 plus hp car and wins a real race. We are humans we are intelligent
strange how the plane crashes on the same island that a missle was launched from and brought down a short while back.was an excuse too destroy the launch pad.remote controlled plane.prerecorded voice tape.white helmet operation.
It wasn’t a jet it was a turboprop
Who is Richard Russell? Oh you mean Sky King!!!!
Ummmm flight sim x is $7 lol news pleb
Zeusasaurus I think what they meant was you can get flight simulator software including hardware for all that
blaming the the simulator itself, is like blaming the gun on a mass shooting. dont ban flight simulator
The last thing we need in the aviation industry is a mainstream media demonizing flight simulation software. Especially we're in a time where aviation needs pilots for corporate and commercial transport. The only saving grace after watching this video was the private pilot featured saying affectively, that I need this to help me become a better pilot. Everything has a upside in the downside, that is just life. Sorry, I had a laugh when the news organization reached out to Microsoft for comment.
Microsoft has been out of the flight simulation community for a long time now. They felt it was no longer profitable and dump the brand roughly 2010 or so. For the researchers for King 5 news organization. You only have two choices left the which is X-Plane or Prepared 3D (Lockheed Martin) for general aviation. Anything else is just a game
Irresponsible reporting, as usual
Maybe keep the planes locked-up or have a key card rather than get rid of simulators. Dumbass idea.
The simulator didnt talk him into stealing the plane. He was stealing it one way or another. The simulator allowed him to safely steal it without casulaties other than himself. Silly as it sounds.
Sometimes you’re just done with life. Suicide is not as bad as people make it out to be. My little brother killed himself a decade ago and it changed my whole view on the topic. If you feel as if everyday is a true struggle… rather it be financially or health wise then sometimes death is true peace. And since not all of us are religious then choose the best way to leave this planet. And this guy chose an awesome way out!! True legend.
Are you a journalist or a fearmonger?
If he learned to takeoff and fly the plane using a simulator, I wonder why he didn't teach himself how to land it. Now he's an infamous thief; had he safely landed, he'd be a legend.
Dude get some brain cells. Think about it. Why would someone take the time to do what he did only to land the plane and get locked up for a long long time? He was tryin to kill himself.
The dude wanted to live before he past. It was done purposly as he only put the fuel amount for a little bit of fun before his ending.
I heard the 911 hijackers used Rosetta Stone to learn English. Should regular people be allowed to use software that teaches the English language so well? The software developers were not available for comment...
We need game control
Pathetic journalism.
but why did richard "sky-king" russell do it?
0:12 passenger JET, yeah right
You have to be kidding!!
So I have X-Plane 11 , throttle boxes , rudder pedals, switch boxes. X-Plane is much more realistic then Microsoft.( currently). I love my sim but doesn’t mean I’m gonna go steal a plane.
Just bought FSX for 6 bucks on a Steam sale. I've heard X-Plane is better but it's still 40 bucks even on sale. Rather save that cash for the possibly superior FS 2020.
Stupid news to even questioning the game. That person needed help which unfortunately didnt get. Am very sad for him and his family :(
if the guy didnt do what he did, FS wouldnt be blamed
This is ridiculous he worked at the airport of course he knew a bit had nothing to do with a simulator and the comment he made about video games it was sarcasm I highly doubt he spent hours and hours learning just to pull a stunt like this
Oh my God you don't know anything.. Get prepared ND majestic q400
Oh c'mon! It's a game!! Nothing to take too serious!!
gimme a break. why would they even think of pulling games like this. ones that actually make people think, and are non-violent and fun. whats next...
Wow King 5!!! You really have nothing else to report about? Instead you wanna take a harmless hobby and try to make it bad thing.
Garbage journalism at its finest.
They are going to be having a panel and investigation into if flight simulators constitute a national security risk in September.
Part of the ideas include restricting access to flight simulators to licensed pilots or having to pass a background check to purchase and access one.
R.i.p captain rich (skyking)
next is ksp
Ban software before guns that will keep the children safe.
That VC is so bad
It doesn’t teach you anything. It allows you to practice and build motor skills but you still have to learn for yourself. Yes they have tutorials but they don’t cover complex aircraft or the step by step methods to start a plane. It’s just a button (Ctrl + E)
Eric Gentry Yes and no. You have the option and can read up on it. The game has the ablility to use manual starting features than a simple control E. I have done it with cessna and the cessna caravan but not a turbo prop. The game does show the switches that are turned when using control E.
Snipe Stud00 But he doesn’t have the primer or simulation for hot or cold conditions.
Eric Gentry Does it really matter? The guy wanted to get off the ground and have fun before killing himself. He had a limited window and he took it. Afterall, he was a grounds man. He talks to pilots, and mechanics especially being a tug operator. He knew what he was doing and he morenhan likly read up on how it was done. Hell, as i stated. I can start a cessna even with a dead battery. Doesnt take a genious to learn how.
Eric Gentry not the default aircraft however many payware aircraft do and come with manuals and simulate hot and cold start ups. X-Plane 11 is even more sophisticated where many of their default aircraft do simulate even more realistic start up procedures.
JiuJitsu Pilot86 yes you are right that Payware will simulate further but that is the payware manipulating the simulation to not start until all the conditions are meet within the 3rd party software (look up Project Magenta’s PMsystems). It is still on the individual to learn. The flight sim doesn’t replace a flight instructor.