Could This Save The North Of England? | Devolution Britain With Moya Lothian-McLean

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  • Devolution - handing powers from Westminster to local government - is going to save England’s neglected regions. At least that’s what the Conservatives say.
    By 2025, the majority of England will be devolved. But what is devolution and what does it actually mean for the people supposedly taking back control?
    In the first episode of a new mini-series, Devolution, Revolution? Moya Lothian-McLean went to the north east, to discover why 20 years after the region voted ‘no’ to devolution the creation of a brand new combined mayoral authority signifies a complete u-turn. Can devolution change lives? Or just bring more disappointment?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 143

  • @Human_Herbivore
    @Human_Herbivore 2 місяці тому +86

    Being chucked out of the Labour Party for speaking with a film maker is shameful for Starmer.

    • @queenvagabond8787
      @queenvagabond8787 2 місяці тому +16

      I'm hoping everyone votes for Jamie Driscoll. He's very popular up here and I think he has a good chance. Its important to send a message to the top of the Labour Party that Labour members and voters won't be bullied by the leaders of the party.

    • @wobblybobengland
      @wobblybobengland Місяць тому

      Badge of honour, all Labour Party members, past and present will have to pay a higher rate of tax in the future.

  • @metalhead2550
    @metalhead2550 2 місяці тому +54

    Jamie oozes hope and ambition, looking for ways to bring people along with him on the journey rather than keeping them in their poverty ridden box, it's fantastic to see!

  • @scallamander4899
    @scallamander4899 2 місяці тому +24

    I have been a Communalist my entire adult life. It is my deepest wish to see the United Kingdom transformed from a centralised multinational state into a decentralised confederation of free cities, towns and villages.

  • @taipizzalord4463
    @taipizzalord4463 2 місяці тому +19

    Novara should have never stopped doing these types of videos!

  • @matthewtimms3905
    @matthewtimms3905 2 місяці тому +62

    So happy that Novara is paying some careful attention to The North. NO ONE with a decent-sized platform is covering it in any great detail. Sadly, that includes Left media.
    Can't wait to see the rest of this mini series. Hoping it becomes a maxi series on The North.
    O, and come to the People's Republic of South Yorkshire.

    • @-._A2._-
      @-._A2._- 2 місяці тому +9

      I wish people talked about West country. We aren't just farmers. We are ignored by Westminster too!

    • @Ranwolf
      @Ranwolf 2 місяці тому +2

      @@-._A2._- When I lived in the UK I never felt people talked about the East Midlands (and not much about the West Mids given its population/economy) either, in fact I think the North as a name gets a lot more coverage, the reality of course being that this doesn't usually mean Cumbria or the North East, but the urban North West and bits of Yorkshire. Basically it's a London centric political system, media focus, etc. and the benefits that are taken out of London tend to settle in the expensive commuter-belt around the capital.

  • @bhodisatva
    @bhodisatva 2 місяці тому +16

    Labour won't be getting my vote can't trust them to deliver on their promises, at least Jamie has already delivered on some of his. Despicable what Labour did to Jamie, so glad he's standing as an independant, VOTE Jamie Driscoll !

  • @uBlurEdits
    @uBlurEdits 2 місяці тому +18

    In 26 years of my life, I've never seen the media pay this much attention to the plight we face in the North East.
    It's so easy to just feel forgotten not just by politicians but by the media also. Especially when everyone's interest in the "North" doesn't go north of Manchester.
    Thank you for providing such an in depth piece! It's nice to feel seen.

  • @garrybowers414
    @garrybowers414 2 місяці тому +21

    Need concervatives and labour out of the North. Only care at election time

    • @peterreid
      @peterreid 17 днів тому

      nah we want labour here in the NE.... and watch what happens when this turns into a cash cow for newcastle again. just like it did in the 80s 90s, 00's.... they will ignore Sunderland and other parts of the NE. Newcastle is fine, its had decades of investment.... shame Sunderland got piss all.

  • @garrybowers414
    @garrybowers414 2 місяці тому +21

    Need to get out and vote for Jamie .

  • @skasteve6528
    @skasteve6528 2 місяці тому +9

    The US state of Mississippi, has the highest poverty rates of any state in the US. If you exclude greater London, Great Britain is poorer. The North does need more autonomy, but so does the Midlands, East Anglia & the South West.

    • @-._A2._-
      @-._A2._- 2 місяці тому +1

      Aye west country does. We get ignored all the time

    • @willieclark2256
      @willieclark2256 2 місяці тому

      Holy shit that’s stark

    • @joeallen9104
      @joeallen9104 2 місяці тому +2

      Great Britain is not a rich country. We're a poor country with an obscenely rich megacity bolted on to it.

    • @Ranwolf
      @Ranwolf 2 місяці тому +1

      @@joeallen9104 The UK is Increasingly trying to copy the worst aspects of American capitalist thinking. I mean, what believe that statistic is referencing is the GDP per state in the US. so places like Mississippi and Alabama seem poor but apparently generate good productivity. However this seems to be at the expense of transport, education, healthcare, culture. So not as simple as wanting UK regions to have better GDP, we need peoples lives to improve too. The more damning stats are comparing the former East German states with the UK regions, the former East is now ahead of many UK core cities outside of London. The difference is of course level of investment.

    • @frankmerlino336
      @frankmerlino336 2 місяці тому +1

      As someone from the deep south in the US, I can ASSURE you that the poorest in the US from a social services and infrastructure perspective are much poorer, my mother didn't have electricity or an in house toilet until the early 80s and that was the standard for most black people in the town I grew up in.

  • @Drudgen
    @Drudgen 2 місяці тому +10

    Excellent interviews, information and superb production value!
    Would love more of these series on all sorts from NM

    • @EMidMSO
      @EMidMSO 2 місяці тому +4

      Agree. I don't know if Moya has done this sort of thing before, but she did a superb job. More please NM!

  • @temptemp4174
    @temptemp4174 2 місяці тому +53

    FREE THE NORTH!

  • @diggerman00007
    @diggerman00007 2 місяці тому +14

    Jamie Driscol 4 PM

  • @silvafox7719
    @silvafox7719 2 місяці тому +6

    A fantastic bit of journalism, and a fantastic look at the forgotten about North East. Jamie Driscoll has done a fantastic job in his role, and now as indepenedent candidate I hope he can carry on his good work.

  • @odetocycling
    @odetocycling 2 місяці тому +4

    Very interesting, Moya. Presume that the labour candidate, Kim McGuiness was doing her great invisibility act during your visit? Jamie Driscoll offers real hope for this region I proudly call home. However, it's totally shocking just how little people know or care about politics in the area - and this could undermine the possibilities of the project.
    Look forward to hearing about the other devolved areas in the series.

  • @c.j.griffin
    @c.j.griffin 2 місяці тому +2

    Excellent. Videos like this remind me why I've been a paying supporter of Novara for the last few years. Great stuff, Moya & team. Look forward to the rest of the series.

  • @Adamb87
    @Adamb87 2 місяці тому +12

    The Midlands needs real people power , PR , socialist economics, worker co-ops & Green industrial investments
    Jah blessings

    • @-._A2._-
      @-._A2._- 2 місяці тому

      West country too!

  • @CoalDustUnion
    @CoalDustUnion 2 місяці тому +1

    Fantastic video showcasing the issues we have faced in the NE. People like Jamie and Alex give me a glimmer of hope where I thought there was none.

  • @Drunkenmeows
    @Drunkenmeows 2 місяці тому +7

    I lived in Korea for over a decade, you can't even imagine the power of devolution and autonomy. They have control of fiscal policies, taxes, infrastructure and scheme throughout their regions. Local government really put in the effort when they know that people expect them to get shit done and improve things for everyone. It's expected to see change even for the sake of change over there, if not you'll be thrown out. God I miss that place such good quality of life. Kinda a stark contrast to UK NPC's nodding to Labour or Tory promises that never appear...

  • @jonathanmitchell420
    @jonathanmitchell420 2 місяці тому +1

    This is a fantastic report. It's professional, covers all the areas and asks great questions. More of this stuff please!

  • @olivershilcock3399
    @olivershilcock3399 2 місяці тому +4

    What excellent quality in this documentary style. Nice!

  • @carldavies4651
    @carldavies4651 2 місяці тому +8

    4 minutes in and I'm very interested. Great content.

    • @EMidMSO
      @EMidMSO 2 місяці тому

      Hope there's more to come. This documentary mini series format is SO much better than listening to podcasts, which are all opinion & often lacking in fact or research. Much more work for NM to produce, but hugely superior & appreciated

  • @diggerman00007
    @diggerman00007 2 місяці тому +7

    And Gary Stevenson 4 chancellor

  • @momo8200
    @momo8200 2 місяці тому +4

    Just adopt a more federal model that's uniform, akin to Germany, with regions that have defined responsibilities and control over certain taxes rather than Westminster. The current model of different local government types with different bespoke arrangements with Westminster is foolish. There is little transparency and awareness of what authority/council is responsible for and a growing desire for major decisions to made more locally.

  • @blahdelablah
    @blahdelablah 2 місяці тому +2

    This was great. More of these documentary videos please!

  • @mitchverr9330
    @mitchverr9330 2 місяці тому +2

    Im glad at least locally, my area seem to be a bit more tuned into the Yorkshire mayoral issues going on, really hope that people further up North get together and vote labour with us so we can finally seem some change and fighting the corruption going on in tory lead situations which are coming to light.

  • @rossblack2324
    @rossblack2324 2 місяці тому +2

    Wow, great to see a Newcastle video.

  • @ac4486
    @ac4486 2 місяці тому +6

    LOVE seeing Novara in the North East, and especially Sunderland! Long time Novara subscriber and mackem ✊️

    • @peterreid
      @peterreid 17 днів тому

      sadly this will be just like before, more investment in newcastle and the rest can do one.... newcastle moaning about lack of investment is a joke

  • @kathrinedavey3080
    @kathrinedavey3080 2 місяці тому +3

    Please can we have a mention of the East Midlands mayor, as no one seems to know about it?

  • @swifty365swifty
    @swifty365swifty 2 місяці тому +1

    Great stuff, would love more videos like this!

  • @PeterNicklin
    @PeterNicklin 2 місяці тому +3

    Excellent work NM

  • @ghandibanks
    @ghandibanks 2 місяці тому +5

    Do more videos like this

  • @raquetdude
    @raquetdude 2 місяці тому +3

    Transport is the major benefit of devolution. It needs to be championed.

  • @user-oc7jh3hw6e
    @user-oc7jh3hw6e 2 місяці тому

    Great new format, hope to see more of it

  • @robertmaitland09
    @robertmaitland09 2 місяці тому +3

    Maybe Novara need to move their operations up north?

  • @EmmaVB82
    @EmmaVB82 2 місяці тому

    Brilliant film, good job Novara and Moya! Looking forward to the rest of the series 😊 (and absolutely gutted Jamie Driscoll didn’t win the mayoralty! I live in London but I donated to his campaign because he’s clearly a brilliant and very competent mayor, and the new north east mayoralty would either not exist or be much more underpowered without him! He was robbed.

  • @raquetdude
    @raquetdude 2 місяці тому +2

    100% the North needs to get away from both the far left and centre left London. Both aren’t concerned with reality in the North.

    • @mitchverr9330
      @mitchverr9330 2 місяці тому +2

      What do you consider "far left" given the North is a historical home of socialism/left wing ideals in the UK? Where do you think labour MPs for the most part come from?

    • @raquetdude
      @raquetdude 2 місяці тому

      @@mitchverr9330 I’m saying the far left in London and in North (everywhere that’s not London) are different.
      The far left and left doesn’t view regionalism as an important issue cause it’s overwhelming dominated by London.
      London didn’t experience the same industrial history as the north nor the same investment historically. It makes sense that the two are different.

    • @jgmediting7770
      @jgmediting7770 2 місяці тому +1

      @@raquetdude your use of far left seems way off.

  • @Anonymous-sb9rr
    @Anonymous-sb9rr 2 місяці тому +1

    England's local authorities are quite large compared to other countries, so they're often more regional than local. In Belgium the municipalities are the local authorities and it's got twice as many as them as England, despite being a much smaller country.

  • @nicolasau
    @nicolasau 2 місяці тому +1

    Really good stuff, you wouldn't get this on telly nowadays!

  • @LeornianCyng
    @LeornianCyng 2 місяці тому +2

    Excellent video NM, well done Moya and the rest of the team. Westminster should not hold all of this power over everyone. Albion, Kernow, Cymru, Alba should be independent countries as they once were. Tuaisceart Éireann should rejoin Èire. As far as Albion is concerned, bottom-up decentralisation/devolution into its own regions like these is a good thing. 🦁 🦄🦌🐉🐦‍⬛

  • @mbapw
    @mbapw 2 місяці тому +1

    I'm hoping the next vid will turn a critical gaze towards what is happening in Greater Manchester outside the city of Manchester and cut through all the hype. Manchester itself has one of the highest mortality/morbidity rates in the UK which suggests that a lot of people are struggling to get by and it's even worse in places like Oldham and Rochdale.

  • @selfpityingslogan
    @selfpityingslogan 2 місяці тому

    great work

  • @AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333
    @AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333 2 місяці тому +2

    Devolved government pretty much anywhere in England would be a bad idea given that the English economy is a service based one that makes no revenue.

    • @mitchverr9330
      @mitchverr9330 2 місяці тому +1

      And whos fault is that 1? A hint, they rhyme with proy and focus on a place rhyming with pundon.

    • @AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333
      @AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333 2 місяці тому

      @@mitchverr9330 The head of state takes ultimate responsibility.

    • @mitchverr9330
      @mitchverr9330 2 місяці тому +1

      @@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333 not in the UK they dont, head of government does. Thats the whole point of a constitutional monarch.

  • @fracturedopal
    @fracturedopal 2 місяці тому

    Very informative

  • @Jon_lad
    @Jon_lad 2 місяці тому +2

    Vote for the Yorkshire Party

  • @blushinglampshade
    @blushinglampshade 2 місяці тому

    A very important topic

  • @marionanderson7059
    @marionanderson7059 2 місяці тому

    You have to look at the candidates and structure of the system. It's quite likely a smoke screen that favours ongoing disparities.

  • @Redf322
    @Redf322 2 місяці тому +3

    Preston model

  • @brendans5010
    @brendans5010 2 місяці тому

    I don't comment much but I think this is great and want more vidoes like it

  • @TheCazzer28
    @TheCazzer28 2 місяці тому

    fantastic

  • @moonshine9902
    @moonshine9902 Місяць тому

    The North have levelled up with the South. That was the promise.

  • @qoolaid9701
    @qoolaid9701 2 місяці тому

    Royal palace noticeably absent and now talks of devolution. Whats really going on?

  • @JamJam0189
    @JamJam0189 2 місяці тому

    It's also led to less sense of Englishness, Scotland and Wales have their own assemblies. What suits London may not be best for Manchester, Leeds, Newcastle or Hull, also if it can attract more investment to the North then this is welcome. John Prescott proposed a Northern Parliament in the 2000's the vote was rejected. Having mayors and more power is a better way forward, but it needs to go further, Manchester has benefited from it, it seems. But here is East Yorkshire we need a Mayoral Devolution deal too. Just look at France, Germany or even more so Switzerland each state has different rules, different parties in or sharing power it's much more democratic. We can vote Labour in North but still end up with a Tory government or a Tory PCC.

  • @Anonymous-sb9rr
    @Anonymous-sb9rr 2 місяці тому

    What you need, is that the money that's made in the region stays in the region, rather than having taxes collected by London, and then they decide what they sent to the region. Whenever you get money from someone else, they'll want to have a say in how it's spend. The counties should collect the taxes and sent a portion of it to Westminster, instead of the other way round.
    Pensions and healthcare should still be funded nationally, because a lot of young people move to London, leaving some regions have an aging population that wouldn't be able to fund it's own eldercare. Most other things should be funded locally or regionally, without any involvement from the national government.

    • @jgmediting7770
      @jgmediting7770 2 місяці тому

      So get rid of shareholder owned companies. Yes.

  • @sheagallagher95ify
    @sheagallagher95ify 2 місяці тому

    @4:28 co. Fermanagh would like a word

  • @scottandcoke1342
    @scottandcoke1342 2 місяці тому +2

    I live in London and im rich

  • @Human_Herbivore
    @Human_Herbivore 2 місяці тому

    Like Brexit, the focus has been too much on separation than doing better collaboration.
    By all means make sure that local initiatives are supported but we need this country and indeed the continent and the world to pull together.

  • @jgmediting7770
    @jgmediting7770 2 місяці тому

    Devolving power to local capitalists would improve things, but it’s no solution. And that’s what devolution would be in the system we live.

  • @camoTiaras
    @camoTiaras 2 місяці тому

    No. Until we rid ourselves of parliament, nothing will change.

  • @WhichDoctor1
    @WhichDoctor1 Місяць тому

    Devolution needs tax rasing powers. As long as regional authorities and mayors are forced to beg central government for funds to do anything their power can be neutered by central government taking their bank card back. Or their decision making influenced by the government threatening to do so. We don't need power to be loaned out by government on sufferance. We need it actually decentralised

  • @chriscuthbertson
    @chriscuthbertson Місяць тому

    05:09 Does it take 9 minutes to cross the Tyne?

  • @lolwalters2936
    @lolwalters2936 2 місяці тому +2

    Whilst some aspects of devolution have been positive, the reality is that the cost of government massively increases and the UK as was, splits into competing regions. What we really need is better democracy with local MPs being able gain supports for the people they represent and from a central but federal government.

  • @RealOGfikey
    @RealOGfikey 2 місяці тому

    Wasn't devolution for the North of England something that the EU originally had planned?

  • @Danster82
    @Danster82 2 місяці тому

    Nothing will increase democratic participation more than using technology to make everything votable local and national accessible on people's phones.

  • @freedom4639
    @freedom4639 2 місяці тому

    Go for independence it's ok for America so must be ok for the rest of us.

  • @RugbyPass81
    @RugbyPass81 2 місяці тому +3

    Excellent work by Novara, as always.
    You should do one on the poor south next (not London of course, where power and wealth is concentrated); but places such as Portsmouth, the place referred to as the Northern city on the South coast, due to the levels of depirvation, with some of the poorest boroughs in Europe.

  • @unusedsub3003
    @unusedsub3003 2 місяці тому

    I’m a Northerner and devolution to “The North” terrifies me!

    • @charliewalton3942
      @charliewalton3942 2 місяці тому

      whys that mate?

    • @unusedsub3003
      @unusedsub3003 2 місяці тому

      @@charliewalton3942 Too many thickos motivated by base instincts.

    • @PauloAdriano-zo2ng
      @PauloAdriano-zo2ng Місяць тому

      ​@@unusedsub3003
      Could you be more specific without being deragatory? Give some examples.

    • @unusedsub3003
      @unusedsub3003 Місяць тому

      @@PauloAdriano-zo2ng People are generally less educated. Some of the lowest GCSE results in the country are in the North West, namely Lancashire, where I live.

    • @PauloAdriano-zo2ng
      @PauloAdriano-zo2ng Місяць тому

      @@unusedsub3003
      Ok. Did you mean the Northeast? 🤔
      Are the GCSE scores low because of a lack of spending or funding of Public Schools? Or is because the Students come from low-income families? Or is it both?

  • @Matt-vo1ge
    @Matt-vo1ge 2 місяці тому

    Ah, Dominic Cummings at it again! Capital fellow!

  • @peterreid
    @peterreid 17 днів тому

    Newcastle complaining about lack of investment is the biggest joke ive heard. look back 40 years and see what happened to the money that was supposed to be used on Sunderland and Newcastle........ Newcastle got almost all funding and the rest of tyne and wear got left to rot.... newcastle has had more than its fair share

  • @peterreed3104
    @peterreed3104 2 місяці тому

    It's Not North East Its Tyne and Wear WTF So its Fuck the Tees Again

  • @LaluBhaiya1233
    @LaluBhaiya1233 2 місяці тому +3

    The king in the north the king in the north

  • @10hawell
    @10hawell Місяць тому

    I don't like devolution for counties, if you want devolution in the north have balls to make Northumbria!

  • @777Comish
    @777Comish 2 місяці тому +1

    Northern independence is now closer thanks to Westminster incompetence

    • @werty21100
      @werty21100 2 місяці тому

      Not entirely incompetent it pure greed as well

  • @stevenlynas8930
    @stevenlynas8930 2 місяці тому +4

    London eats the wealth of the whole country. The North should retain its own wealth and should reopen coal mines etc and redevelop industry.
    The North shoud adopt a new name not the North of England a name that encompasses the regions of a new country. The North should then demand compensation from London for their neglect of our regions.

    • @user-fq2cf6xf2s
      @user-fq2cf6xf2s 2 місяці тому

      Yeah 'cos a new name will make a difference 😂😂
      The North has done practically fk all to grow its economy, innovate or redevelop industry in the last 50 years.
      You really believe devolution would make them all get off their arses instead of living off the social? Hilarious.

    • @werty21100
      @werty21100 2 місяці тому

      We do have a name for northern England it’s called Northumbria but southern England (mainly London) forbids it and just call it northern England

    • @user-fq2cf6xf2s
      @user-fq2cf6xf2s 2 місяці тому

      @@werty21100 🤣🤣🤣 Oh good grief, stop trying to play the victim, it's not been forbidden it's just that names of places have changed since medieval times.

  • @hrhcrab
    @hrhcrab 2 місяці тому

    Its a shame only MPs from the South get to vote in Westminster...wait, what?!

  • @candicechieffo884
    @candicechieffo884 2 місяці тому +1

    I love Galloway I think he has potential to really change the Uk. I think people need to open their eyes and see what is causing the country to collapse and fall.

  • @user-fq2cf6xf2s
    @user-fq2cf6xf2s 2 місяці тому +1

    Well it's working out so well for Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales so why not?
    Oh no, wait a minute 🤔

    • @blahdelablah
      @blahdelablah 2 місяці тому +1

      Two points. Firstly, the key thing is control over budgets. The devolved governments of the UK should have greater control over their budgets. Secondly, in many ways Scotland is better run than England, they have stronger public services, better higher education accessibility and better healthcare funding. They also have cleaning drinking water thanks to not privatising it. So, in some cases, yes it's working out well.

    • @user-fq2cf6xf2s
      @user-fq2cf6xf2s 2 місяці тому

      @@blahdelablah
      Nonsense.
      Despite what the SNP claims, the 'devolved' Scotland receives £41 billion a year from the UK government (Taxpayer money)
      This equates to over 25% more per (Scottish) person than is spent on English persons.
      Scotland is not well run, it's propped up.

    • @user-fq2cf6xf2s
      @user-fq2cf6xf2s 2 місяці тому

      SNP Government literally collapsing right now.

    • @blahdelablah
      @blahdelablah 2 місяці тому +1

      @@user-fq2cf6xf2s Two questions. 1. If English citizens received the same per-head as Scottish citizens, would they still be "propped up"? 2. Where do you think money comes from? I'm not talking about taxes. Where do you think money comes from?

    • @user-fq2cf6xf2s
      @user-fq2cf6xf2s 2 місяці тому +1

      @@blahdelablah
      My reply got cut by UA-cam, maybe you complained about it 😏
      so here it is again in slightly different form.
      Both your questions are irrelevant.
      1. The citizens don't actually receive the actual money you know that right?
      The figure equates to 25% more available to spend on services in Scotland than England so yeah, propped up. That's the reality, what ifs are irrelevant.
      2. It comes from a barter system which originated approximately 6000 years ago.
      First coin we know of is from the 7th century BC and the first paper money came into the world around 1020 AD. Medieval banking systems gave way to the gold standard, which in turn gave way to modern currency.

  • @davidmcintyre8145
    @davidmcintyre8145 2 місяці тому +2

    One thing that must be pointed out however is that the north of England largely voted for brexit and did so primarily for reasons of xenophobia and racism

  • @obtuse1291
    @obtuse1291 2 місяці тому

    Nah, they voted Tory so they're all fine. 😂😂

  • @FikuKromoUzuFajrovulpon
    @FikuKromoUzuFajrovulpon 2 місяці тому

    The people of England were asked in the past if they wanted devolution in a regional form, they overwhelmingly said no, they were asked later if they wanted to be ignored by the world by leaving the EU for no reason at all other than some submissive political fetish and they said yes to it and dragged Scotland, Northern Ireland, Gibraltar, and London along with them. Why do you think they want devolution now? Having people listen to them is clearly not what they are into. Have some respect and ignore them as they requested.

  • @BogushCh
    @BogushCh 2 місяці тому

    Beautifully filmed: the North-East is an exceptional part of Britain.