Why the Phlog is ACTUALLY Broken...
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
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Team Fortress 2 (TF2) is a team-based multiplayer first-person shooter video game developed and published by Valve. It consists of nine classes, Scout, Soldier, Pyro, Demoman, Heavy, Engineer, Medic, Sniper, and Spy, and two teams, Red and Blu. The teams try to take the others' objective, such as an intelligence brief case, or a control point.
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I’m glad you’re back. I don’t know what happened in that dark age, but welcome back. These are the only type of comments you’ll get for like a month so I’ll just add to the pile.
you sound like you were eating while recording that
@@grazielamink after people realized he was a terrible human being he needed to let off a bit of steam so he had a little baby fit
for me, i use the phlog with the detonator and back scratcher. high sustainability, damage, and mobility (detonator range and phlog crits, increased health from med-kits, and det jumping)
Soldiers and demos have an even better tool against phlog pyros:
- No airblast
The lack of Airblast also makes you very vulnerable to Demoknights...
...unless you're using the scorch shit because that stupid fucking stun will keep you safe from Demoknights at no cost.
Plus if you’re using the phlog and try to kill a pyro when you have no charge, 2-3 Dragons Fury shots kill you quick, a few blasts from any class’s stock shotgun/reskin and yer dead, and you can no longer reflect sentry rockets so you can die to any level 3 in seconds. No airblast makes any pyro pretty weak.
@@menacingpyro2005 this is about the Phlog not Dragon's Furry.
@@josephconover5270 I know. I'm saying that the phlog is OP but only when paired with the scorch shit, but as a phlog pyro you're weak against classes with a range that can be outside of your flames, which incluses the dragon's fury, stock shotgun, sniper rifle, sentry gun, etc. but also, 2 shots from a dragon's fury, rocket launcher, or grenade launcher make any phlog pyro more dead than valve server competitive mode. are you so stupid that I have to spell out every minute detail?? boi.
@@menacingpyro2005 glass cannon
I honestly believe that the philog is a balanced weapon because of the balance of downsides and upsides, its pretty much like the soda popper and the front tier justice
I think its underpowered because Airblast is just THAT good
Hell, if youre good enough you can juggle a Phlog Pyro until they run out of charge
The only issue is that any change would make it too Strong
@@nidhogg8446 flame reach is slightly more than airbalst
@@nidhogg8446 Lazypurple:
@@drillbitz2816 i forgot to answer this the other day but flame spread is shorter of the other Pyro is running towards you, I've never managed it with 0 damage but I have juggled Pyros until they run out of Phlog with enough life left to win the duel later, or more often just survive till someone else kills the Pyro
And u need Team play to make it good
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HES BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!
He is back with the tf2 content
its true
i pray to Lord Ram to get Zealot back to tf2 skits
@@JohnJones-mp3in I think this will be his content for now and I’m totally fine with it
@@takahiko9583 remember his small little movies or skits from Zealot very good
He’s an asshole don’t trust it he’ll go right back to compaling the moment he gets bay veiwers
Can’t believe I’d see the day the old Zealot is back
Old zealot is scout and soldier destroying furries
@@RuthlessDarknes5 no he originally made good content
@@Buzz.co1 true
@@RuthlessDarknes5 that's the zealot we all hated tbh. He did much better content before going on "I hate this" madness
"If you are soldier or demo you can just get away from the pyro"
Snipers: Pathetic
No airblast tho be hittin hard sometimes
Lol you def don't approve of his discord
Onggg
Seeing your Medic on fire and Tried to press M2 but you are using the Phlogistinator
hits hard
The scariest thing I’ve ever seen in this game was two medics on my team, one ubered the other and the ubered one meleed the whole enemy team to death
Blitzkrieg:Uber a medic and the ubered medic kills at least 4 enemies
@@Lightning12905 not the one on my team no idea how but he managed to kill all the enemy team on the payload
So the medics both had stock mediguns and ubersaw with a primary.
@@josephconover5270 idk but he solod the entire teams
@@epiksweatypikmingamer3348 Literally everyone: "Medic is way too weak in combat"
These 2 medics that you met:
i have to agree with this, valve pretty much murders the sandman, caber, dead ringer and eviction notice yet the scorch shot lays untouched
I love the part where pyro says "it's phloggin time"
Battalion backup users: "👻"
Vacc medics
I completely agree that the Pholg is not over powered. In a vacuum, this weapon is never over powered, i would rather say it is considered a throw away thrower. It had a limited range, so any class that is Pyro’s speed or faster can stay fairly well out of his range. Without a healing factor or medic, pyro with phlog will not get far, unless the team is rolling the enemy. Now, with the Scorch or Detonator, this flame thrower can gets its fire up super easily without Pyro putting himself at risk. However, it is still difficult to say that even this combo is broken, because pyro only has crits on his thrower. You have a high burst damage gun, and this in a land without medic, is more of an equivalent exchange. Pyro can get mowed down at this point by 4 classes naturally, which are Heavy, Sniper, Demo, and Soldier. 6 if you count the Crit a Cola Scout with lets say, the short stop for medium range away from pyro, or the Amby/Diamond Back for Spy.
Holy shit Richthofen looks like medic and the phlog looks like the wunderwaffe not just that but the trap phlogger I sure do hope something is going here
No you don't use the phlog with the scorch shot. You use it with the jet packs. After you get the meter filled, you jump into the middle of the enemy team and burn them all
In the words of Lazy Purple
"Ah, thank you jet pack! There is no where I'd rather be than in between THREE HEAVY'S"
Jet pack is literally the worst weapon in the game. Holster time is too long, you're a sitting duck.
The gass passer is probably worse
what about detonator for detonator jumps
@@ZealotTF2 *Gaspasser wants to speak with you*
Me who hasn’t had a scorchShot drop yet.
“Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.”
Just got one yesterday, i gotta say its really OP, you can even set up booby traps with it
"I don't think it's overpowered"
**Proceeds to say why but ends saying why it is**
Yes phlog does have guaranteed crits mode, but you need to do burn damage to enable it. And the scorch shot is excellent at dealing burn damage, and at range. Do you understand it now?
The one actually good spy: "I will never let you uber or pop your phlog"
Phlog mains: “YAY, NOW I CAN DOMINATE THE ENEMY TEAM WITH THE “mmmmph” TAUNT”
Soldier and Demoman mains: “no”
Zealot got that villain turned hero arc
The only weakness they have is getting their head turned into a fine red mist
I miss the days of dustbowl 3 backburner walking up the stairs and killing the entire enemy team.
He’s back boys
Ahh yes the degenerate is back
No airblast is definitely the weapon's biggest weakness, even for a phlog pro against an almost explosive characters team
I remember ubering a phlog player in bad water, we destroyed everything and everyone and our team pushes the cart and win.
bros so tired of waiting for a tf2 update that he legit sounds tired
I just started tf2 a week ago, I decided to buy the Pyro stater and you just explained my exact load out.
Why in the living fuck would you buy the Pyro Starter bundle on the Mann Co store? You are paying like 3€ for what’s really worth around 0.50€
@@I_am_a_Cooler_Dude_Than_You idk like I said I just started
@@I_am_a_Cooler_Dude_Than_You I made the same mistake
Yeah that's an unhealthy start for your skill and experience
Lazypurple:i need AIRBLAAAAAAAST
AceTheOcarinaMaker is a good example of this.
the pyro be like:
WHERE IS MY MEDIC GIRLFRIEND?
I NEED HER FOR THE EPIC CLIPS FOR A YT VIDEO
Phlog pyros looking at the crocket thats about to do 210 damage to them while theh cant reflect
Phlog looks like a sliquifier mixed with the Wunderwaffe DG2
I had a dream where our family cosplayed as tf2 characters and I was a pyro
Its even worse when they have a detonator instead of the scorch shot and can just close gaps fast.
Zealot got that villain turned hero arc
It's that runner game, but with a rocket to jump with. Nice.
Whenever there is a phlog player around i just switch to heavy with stock.
"All the other players better run better jump, faster than my plog!"
I do not think the phlog is overpowered, proceeds to explain why the phlog is overpowered.
TF2ers: Phlog is OP
Me: Just be greatful that building-stats bars reset with every death. If they didn't, like in Overwatch, YOU'D BE SCARED. Also... dude... HE CAN'T DEFLECT! (when he has a medic?) Pyro-medic and airblast him away
Im a proud Phlogistinator Pyro
subway surfers gameplay: bad
TF2 rocket jumping: good
The fact that he just named the exact loadout I use on pyro
How to complain about the scorch shot without doing a video on the scorch short:
The Phlogistinator is just a flamethrower that can crit but cannot airblast. To counter a Phlogistinator, just exploit that weakness of no airblast.
When in dout, uber phlog them...
TAKE NOTES PEOPLE TAKE NOTES
You use the Phlog because you are bad, I use the Phlog because I’m bad at air blast. We are not the same.
So the plog is balanced, the combo is what breaks it.
And if you have a wrangler as a engineer
Love the new content local villain
Me, here after 11 months and seeing the powerjack:
Anyone else watched the insane jump skills rather than the actual video about the phlog?
Same
The phlogistinator and the rainblower are my favorite pyro main weapons
valve needs to add the stat "does not work with scorc shot"
That doesnt fit tf2
@@DFFilmmaker Why because valve doesn't update the game?
@@eddthe9th no cuz no such weapon should cancel out another as a stat
It's perfect if you set an ambush while a medic heals at the point so you can build up mpph at the point but hidden and once the Uber is ready and the mpph is ready you can destroy
that's how TF2 weapon work you killed the bad players so you can kill the good player
Ways to beat the phlog. 1. Play sniper. 2. Play engineer. 3. play natasha or brass beast heavy. 4. dont run like a dumbass at the phlog pyro. 5. play demoman or soldier and sit at a high spot where he cant get you.
I can't take this man seriously because it sounds like hes about to tell you tf2 memes but hes completely serious about what hes saying
Fun fact for people who don't know: phlog charges from fire damage, gas passer can charge from _any_ damage, and you don't even have to deal damage.
I think the simple solution to this is to make it so that the scorch shot fills up the bar at quarter of the speed that it does now.
The Phlog when used at its maximized potential sucks ass to deal with but when used without a medic up their ass. There is no in between, it’s just either obnoxious to deal with or pathetic to witness.
most W+M1 pyros use this
but then again the lack of airblast can easily knock you out of uber range or killed by environment or more
The return of the King.
I want to point out the scorch shot isn’t overpowered either, it just has an op synergy with the phlog specifically
I think the fact that you need a secondary, melee, & Medic just to make 1 weapon good says enough.
I do agree with your opinion for once the phlog is good but like lazy purple said:"it leaves you completely vulnerable on the approach"
As a demoknight I do not jump away I or die with honor or I slices em up then charges away into the sewers of 2fort racking up kills
The scorch shot and the Uber medics are the thing that pushes the phlog into overpowered territory. Even if you nerfed or removed the scorch shot, uber medics are still so willing to ruin the enemy team's day by ubering the phlog pyro. If you're a medic and you uber a phlog pyro you're going straight to hell with him
Phlog to Pyro is what Black Box is to Soli, or Frontier Justice is to Engineer, change my mind
"I don't think Pog is the best Pyro Weapon"
*Casually explains through the rest of the video how it's the best Pyro weapon and how to combo it to make it stronger*
As a phlong player i agree, i build up Mmmph way to quickly with the scorch shot, i still use the phlog and pyrojack but i switched scorch shot with the flare gun
It feels bad to die to it, that's why it's deemed overpowered
I have all of these, time to be villainous
The ability to receive ubercharges should be removed because gathering crits and invincibility is just OP
As a pyro main i hate the phlog because the sound it's make is too smooth, i prefer normal flamethrower sound
Phlog is just the DG3 wunderwaffe from cod zombies 😅😅
So i'm unsure what to use now
Scorch shot with..
Backscratcher or
Powerjack
It looks like a wunderwaffe tbh
The Scorch Shot is a mistake
Man you beat easy surf in like 20 seconds when i literally beat it in like a hour
This is my pyro loadout and i didn't expect it to be that OP lol, i use the Powerjack to run back to Spawn and the scorch shot to taunt kill for instant mpphh or do easier jumps lol
I use detonator for annoyance and manmelter for obvious extinguishes
I agree. The phlog is balanced.
you can almost always just run away lol unless there's only 30 seconds left like dude please why
Bro power jack, scorch shot and stock flamethrower is the play.
when you cant aim with the flare gun
@@lunorz210 very very true
so in short, its overpowered.
Who else wants Zealot face reveal?
why do you sound like the dentist just removed a tooth
I think it should come with extra knockback vulnerability(when crits are active) so you can send the ubered phlog straight to orbit with a loose cannon lol. That way it would probably be better to use a quick fix Uber to negate knockback but still be killable.
Its called spamming stickies or pipes and rockets at them from a good distance
He sounds congested
That is literally my loadout…
Guess I’m doing it right then
2 reasons why to not use phlog
1- No Airblast
2- Stock is superior
Bro I was high af when I watching this and I had no clue what was going on
I think this weapon was called in Polish "odtłuszczacz"
All Im missing is the powerjack
This game hates people who don't like microtransactions
if only there were a timeline where the phlog had airblast
The phlog in general is just lazy weapon design, it always has been. It a crit gimmick in a class that has way too many crit gimmicks.
When I see a Phlog, I see a Gravity Gun. I would have played into that.
A well time reflect grabs a projectile and then slowly build up power in it the longer you have it held down until eventually it converts the projectile into a full crit. The projectles released from the Phlog would always fire perfectly straight (That's to make reusing the projectiles easier) However, if the pyro hold the M2 button down for too long, the gun breaks the Projectile it's holding down into Ammo that is then dropped from behind the pyro.
It can also absorb status effects from players and the same principle applies there however the difference being here that if the pyro holds the status effects for too long, it converts them into health kits taht are dropped behind the pyro.
The downsides would be -35% damage and no Afterburn of any kind.
It would be "THE" support flamethrower at that point. Pybro would benefit the entire team, not just the engineer.
The Manmelter. 💎
if u combine it with manmelter it's good bcur not selfish and u get the crits and essentially u can still rxtinguish and it rewards you when you do