Dirthole Set - trap coyotes, or any predator with this set
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- Опубліковано 1 січ 2016
- The dirthole set, or its variations, have no doubt trapped more animals than any other set out there. If you want to know how to trap you need to learn how to make this set. The biggest key is you've got to make sure your trap is firmly bedded so that it doesn't shift under an animal's foot if the animal doesn't step right on the pan the first time. This set will catch any and all predators, coyotes, fox, bobcat, skunk, raccoon, and possums to name a few. To learn more about trapping visit www.coyotetrappingschool.com
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After 50+ years of trapping in Idaho and Oregon l have learned a few things! I never used a pan cover. Only use house insulation under the pan, just tear off a piece big enough to fit under and that's it.
Gregory McGuire waxed paper is what I all ways use, some guys use window screen but the soil I deal with is sugar sand and it will sift through the screen so the wax paper works best for me, it’s cheap and unless a lot of wet weather it lasts a long time.
I think this is one of your best videos yet. Love the camera angels and that was one fine description and demonstration. Nice work man. Good luck and Happy New Year!!
+RedDogBushCraft Thanks! I appreciate the good feedback. Good luck to you!
Great video! Very clear and informative!
Great video. I have a fox that has been after my chickens for years! I just bought a trap to catch it and this video was a great teaching moment!
Did you catch the fox?
Did the fox outfox you?
Hey Brother, just discovered your channel and knew immediately it was a no Brainerd I had to subscribe! First, I want to Thank You for sharing your wisdom that was developed from your body of work! Second I live in Tuscaloosa, AL and have just over 2K acres leased bordering the east side of Sipsey River about 10 minutes from my office in the industrial park. I went to the lease yesterday and carried one of my men to help me pull cameras to get them ready to relocate for turkey season. Due to me forgetting about it being valentine's day, we were only able to get 9 of the cameras. Upon reviewing cards for what percentage of the mature age structure survived hunting season and to document how many 3.5 year olds also made it. This wasn't hard because I literally had 1 client hilunt all year. Lol; however, was more focused on surrounding properties. I personally didn't actually hunt but the 6 times running cameras w/ a riffle I killed 3 bobcats, should have killed a double on the 3rd kill, first time I didn't get a shot on a cat, trip that followed killed a male coyote. Reason I'm providing this data is to explain why I never fathomed it was imperative to trap until late last night. After checking all the disc retrieved it's unreal the number of cats (all sizes), coyotes, 3 that look like wolves traveling together. Numerous times 2 or 3 yotes would approach a 200lb plus buck and you could see them flanking the mature buck! I've seen tracks running mature bucks tracks but assumed it to be dog tracks. After evaluating my thoughts there's no dogs and I assumed dog due to I would have never thought yotes would consider a mature buck as prey, WRONG!!! This is based on my area and I'm sure each is different.
I have to get going before turkeys begin nesting and this issue has to be gotten under control! Can you please email me so I can provide you with my contact information. I am expecting to compensate you for consulting time. If the learning curve is too much to get this under control I will not be comfortable until I hire a professional to ensure I have done my duedilligence. We will never knock beavers, otters, coons back; however, these must be managed also. The river bottom is miles and miles wide of swamp bottom and the last animals come w/ territory, when a group is gone next moves in. Oh yeah hogs but just began showing back up this month. We will see how this goes but my friend has 3 remote traps to help mitigate them. Sorry for long message, it's weighing on me heavily though. Thank you in advance!
My email is:
jerrod@mmfal.com
Ki d Regards,
Jerrod
How do you set the pan up in that neutral position like that? Like what position is the dog in? Also, what kind of trap did you use in this video?
To encourage your animal to step on the pan use guide sticks. Maybe two pieces of broom straw (something small that will not render the jaws). This works with canines also but especially works very well with cats. They will not step on anything they think will "pop" around there next meal therefore placing there paw directly on the pan. My dad trapped for 40 years and passed on that trick to me. Works on every set including trenches holes dens etc.
I'll often use dirt clods as guides
Not sure what you mean. Does the straw go between the pan and jaws? Im new to trapping and need some guidance
Is it ok to use the same gloves to bed the trap and bait and lure or should i have two pair of gloves?
I usually dont comment but i just wanted to say GREAT video and good content. I'm just getting into trapping and this was very educational! Thanks alot!
Awesome, thanks for watching! Good luck
I just caught my first coyote a few weeks ago and caught it on Mark June’s bait. Do you have any others suggestions on baits
Thank you sooo much!!! I was so confused on how to set the trap until I watched this video! You where a great help👍
Good deal, good luck!
Great advise. I once started a set and realize fairly quickly I was digging into a yellow jacket nest. Stop, turn around, and retreat asap.
That's no good, at least you realized it before they did!
Scott Comella I want upsetting my hunting blind about 5 feet from an underground Yellow Jackets nest they didn't particularly mind although they would get a little nosey and come over and check it out but they soon flew away
It's just I'm against coyote hunting it's cruel
@@spizz6744 how is it cruel
I’m new to trapping and been learning from the videos on here and have seen many where they change gloves when applying the lure and noticed you didn’t,is this something that’s not necessary?
Your vids are great they helped me get started with coon trapping and im fixing to start predator trapping caught a coon this mornin tho
Best video on making a dirthole set I have seen. Can you do a flat set next?
+Zachariah Young Thanks! Yeah I can do one on a flat set. Be on the lookout
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What kind of bait do you recommend.
I'm glad I found your video explain everything very well. I have a pack of coyotes on my hunting property do you know if tractor supply sells those type of traps
AttWoods sells Dukes
Nice job!
A great tutorial on how to prepare a dirthole set
Thanks!
You make me nervous poking around on it like that with it set lol
Same!
I have a bunch of those bullet point stakes, but now only use the Wolf points from Minnesota trampoline products. Make my own using the same 5/64 cable l snare coyotes with, cut at 20 inches. Never lost a dog yet out of hundreds caught! I just just leave them in the ground! Use a quick link to connect the chain to the cable, or you can just go through the last link on your chain and pound the Ferrell one just cut it off when you're done there. I use lots and lots of blind or trail sets, no bait at all. I just know where a dog is going to walk. One spot l had 6 trail sets in less than 40 yards and had 4 dogs waiting for me that check! I like to set a big stone log or break a piece of sagebrush off to narrow down the spots where I set the traps! Hahaha
Today I learned the difference between lure and bait.
nice video very helpful. what kind of LURE and BAIT do u use . thx and have a great day
+Brant Fleming Check out this video, ua-cam.com/video/ZEn5x3qWnaM/v-deo.html I use a variety of lure and baits, Caven's, Fox Hollow, Mark June, Blackie's Blend. Its hard to go wrong with any of the lures on the market
thank you for sharing this video. i was wondering if you could recommend a trap for bobcat. we have at least two eating our chickens and I need it to stop.
Any #2 or larger size trap will be fine for bobcats, or even a large cage trap
Excellent. Thank you
I use duke coil traps what are they for
Great set man! I tweaked my set a tad bit after watching this. Worked quite well
Good deal! Do what works, I change mine up from time to time with a large or small hole, or 2 holes. It all works
very nice--thank you
Whats the best way to go about picking the right backing for your sets?Any set i guess. What pan covers do u use?
I just use what is on hand, or bring my own. I like using T bones from cows, a small clump of grass or rock/large stick that is at the set. I usually pick my specific location dependent on what is around to use for backing. I use polyfil (pillow stuffing) under the pan
Cut a broom in half. Keeps ya from getting caught brushing dirt off the pan. Coming from a guy who has been caught a lot lol 💪 good video
Great video! Nice job
Hi there have a question off the subject i have 6 wolf power rams and i was degreasing them with vinegar and so far 2 of em snapped while set at the base of the spring have you experienced this before
I have no experience with power snares, sorry
Thx can't wait to give this a try this season!!!! Cheers!!
Good luck!
I am worried about getting a deer in the trap how do you avoid that
Excellent!
so did ya catch any game on this dirt hole trap demonstration? just curious if caught anything afterwards. and if ya did, how long did it take to lure in, and what did you trap?
This was just a demonstration. It varies widely on time to catch, can be anywhere from day 1 to day 14. Usually for predators if you're in a good area within the first week you will have caught something
That's great Larry, keep up the good work! and Thanks for letting me know. Its easier than most people think
Subscribed good videos
Brazilian Fire Ants are my biggest problem here in South Carolina...cant set a trap within 15 yards of an active mound or they with take the set over. Nice demo...glad I'm not digging in that hard clay, lol.
Yeah ants are a pain to deal with!
Why are those foothold traps so difficult to set? Used one one time n the dog wouldn’t set again without beating it back In place.
What’s the secret to this? Can’t find a good video on them n feel like I’m having way too much trouble to set it
I use the same sets over and over on my property.
Great video thank you
Thanks for watching, good luck with those coyotes!
With my previous unscuccesful attempts, I made a backing from sticks in the shape of two sides of a triangle with one side open where the trap was located. My bait was leftover chicken. I caught everything but coyotes. Is this not subtle, as is recommended at 10:43? It's worth stating that I only saw coyotes on trail cam yesterday while hearing them in the distance often over the last two months. And, they were chasing two does.
Yes that stick backing will work on coyotes. How long did you leave the traps? Coyotes are pretty wary and can shy away from sets for a variety of reasons. I've had sets go 2 weeks without any activity before I catch a coyote. Also, need to make sure the trap is bedded firmly with ZERO movement whatsoever if the coyote steps somewhere besides the pan, and that there is no scent contamination. So you've had your traps set through the summer? Summer can be a tough time to trap coyotes because there are ample food sources available, and its tough to keep bait in some areas because of ants. Did you have any type of lure that has glands or curiosity scents, as an added attractor to get the coyote interested in your set? As you can see there can be a lot of variables, but hang with it, when it clicks and you catch one then you've got it!
Coyote Trapping School I only started in July because a neighbor showed me a coyote den at the end of woods but I now think that it is abandoned. The raccoons and possums kept taking the bait. I am currently de-rusting and painting my traps with Rust Oleum and will get some coyote scent as a lure. I will also relocate the traps to near the deer trail where I saw them on the trail cam.
Patience is a virtue when targeting yotes. Exception being when long-lining. Then I moved traps every 7-10 days depending on what I thought the population was. Takes a lot of land to longline!!
great video!
Thanks, good luck!
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+Luca Zenoni Thanks! What do you trap in Italy?
Kris, I know you don't usually watch all your subscriber's videos due to the massive amount of time it would take you but if you get a minute, would you take a look at my new video and see if you think what's prowling my deer food plots repeatedly is a fox or coyote? Personally, I thought it was a fox but a trapper I respect says it looks more like a coyote. I want to trap whatever it is before fawn drop happens in about two more weeks. What lures, urines, or baits would you recommend for a summertime trap set? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I trapped two fox this last season but I don't know if trapping in summer is different. Both are nuisance animals which are legal to take year round here in Mississippi.
well, I haven't checked back on the video but what was the consensus? You ever set any traps for them?
No way to know for sure. Pretty good possibility of both a coyote and a fox visiting. However, per the game camera whatever it was has not been back. Probably that is because the deer are dropping fawns right now and the does are staying back in the woods and not in the food plots. I put out a couple traps but the only thing that has wandered through so far was one raccoon which managed to catch itself in my trap.
I'm getting much better at setting my traps thanks to your videos. I have tried to make my dirt hole sets as close to how you do them as possible. I put a plug in the video for people to check out your site. Your one of the very best in this business as your style of teaching is easy to follow and you don't spend your time boasting about how great a trapper you are, like some of the folks who consider themselves to be trapping gurus. Thanks for all you do, Kris. Much appreciated!
quick and done well
Hurry time running
Enjoy the heck out your videos, question for you tho....I’m going out of state to coyote Hunt an trap....I’m jus going to skin out there an bring my hides back...no access to freezer while I’m there...how you recommend I store my hides for the week till I get back?
hmmm, where you going? Wondering about how cold the weather might be. What are you going to do with the hides, sell them or tan them? If you're going to tan them you could go ahead and salt them, if you're wanting to sell them that could get tricky
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No I’m jus tanning for my own use.....so jus salt an roll em on a rack in a cooler so the moister can drip out??? Going to wv from N.C. it should be 45 degrees an below
What is in your mixture of bait? First year coyote trapper and would like to make my own bait.
I buy my bait. Its so easy to buy versus trying to make bait. There's plenty of books and videos on it though, check out this link to see alot of them or google trapping bait recipes
www.fntpost.com/Categories/Trapping/Baits,+Lures+Urines+and+Accessories/Lure+Bait+Making+Supplies/Lure+Bait+Making+Books+Videos/
Lots of good tips. Thanks.
Zold Outdoors you bet, good luck!
Have you ever had a coyote or fox drag the trap out? Like if that anchor isent deep enough will it be easy to pull out
I lost 1 coyote that pulled the stake and took off with trap and all. Occasionally you will drive one into a hole underground, like a rotted root hole. Usually you will notice that the stake went int 6" in one swing and I know to test it then. If you drive those anchors down to the chain they will usually hold
Coyote Trapping School thanks for the advice. I have never set a trap but I’d like to get into trapping. Just trying to get the gist of it so I can practice setting traps and get into it fully
What did you use for bait?
I use a variety of baits from different makers, Caven's Hiawatha Valley, O'Gorman's Powder River, Rusty Johnson's Lucky, Mark June's Widowmaker. There are plenty of good choices out there and with the bigger named ones its hard to go wrong
Latex pan covers...you have any problems with them....they mold well in jaws..
Never used latex pan covers. I bet they would mold well
What dye are you using on this trap?
TrappingIsLife speed dip
Ok ty
Thank yoy
thx alot
How do u get the stake back out of the ground
chris morgan You can buy or make a stake puller like this, www.minntrapprod.com/mobile/Super-Stake-Puller-Each/productinfo/T-SSPULL/, you can also use a bumper jack, or in Sandy soil you can use a tile spade to push down to the stake and loosen up enough to pull it out by hand. And there are cable stakes that are made to just cut the cable and leave them in the ground
Sure wish I had nice soft soil like that. When it’s time to trap up here in Montana, the ground is frozen solid. Have to pick to chip out the hole and sift in fresh dirt with an antifreeze mix
I'm sure glad I don't have to deal with frozen ground
I have some problem coyotes and foxes, just bought everything needed to catch them. Only question, I have a neighbor bloodhound that’s old and deaf that runs loose sometimes at night, will this accidentally catch him or not
Brandon Hill bad news is yes you will catch the neighbor’s dog ! Good news is you probably won’t hurt him and you will only catch him once ! My hounds all get caught once then they learn to avoid!
Patrick got it. Odds are you will catch him but he can be released unharmed
Coffee filters ?
How long should you leave a set without any action?
I wouldn't hesitate to leave it 2 weeks if its a good location
I've been having trouble with coyotes rolling on my set. What techniques do you use to prevent them for rolling?
Where are you placing your lure at these sets? If you can put it down a dirthole or under a rock, something where they have to work to get it that might help. Rolling means they are interested, which is a good thing but you want to catch them before they start rolling. Tainted or really strong lure/bait can be causing the rolling too, you might try using a milder lure or a smaller amount of lure and covering it up with a little dirt, still down a hole, to diminish the smell slightly. Hope this helps
Ok thank you!
I'm using wolf-fang cable disposable anchors to hold the trap can you use these for several years or should I put new anchors in each year?
You could use them a couple years, just watch for any fray or damage on your cable. The first sign of damage I'd trash it. You could reuse the anchor part and just make your own cable.
Are Government Call and Gumbo good coyote lures?
I've used Govt call before, both should be good
How are you doing?
What is your favorite pan cover to use?
Holman creek outdoors I like to use poly fil (pillow stuffing) under the pan.
Wax paper works well too unless you have a lot of rain
One of my favorite coyote sets besides the blind set, is what I call the "shit set"! Hahaha! Just a nice big hairy coyote shit sprayed over with a little urine and a trap set oh about 8 or so inches back away right off the road or trail. In some remote places l gamble and set right in the middle of the road! I can see them from a mile away in the trap! I had an Einstein coyote play with my shit sets for a few months until he fucked up and stepped in one of my trail sets on a rocky hillside and pulled a 40 pound rock and rolled down the hill and was next to the road! He was a big old boy that was damn near the size of a wolf! Only a well placed trail set will get the smartest ones sometimes!
You got that right, got to pull out all the stops to get those smart ones. You trap any wolves where you are in Idaho?
So could you use this on a wolf?
It should work on wolves too, might need to back the trap up a little more though
u don't offset pan from hole?
I don't, some people do and some don't. I may try experimenting with it some this year just to see
I love watching your videos good luck catching coyotes love my channel too
thank you
You bet!
All you do is once your set is completely done you two very small straight twigs and lay them on both sides of your pan on top of the ground (your pan will be under everything and set). When the animal walks up and looks for a spot to step they will step where there is no debris AKA the two twigs therefore they will step dead on the pan. Twig pan twig about 4 inches in between the guide sticks with the pan dead center. This is a good set he's showing you I just have always used the guide sticks instead of dirt clods because no predator hunting or sneaking up on food will step on the twigs. Like I said this works amazing with cats and foxes. The few videos that I've taken off of my trail cams setup on my traps even the yotes we'll come in and step in between the guide sticks.. And I also use some mb traps. They only have to be about 6 inches long. Extremely brittle and dry. That way they will not block the jaws. About the size of a coffee straw.
It all depends on how wary and experienced your particular Coyote is, once bitten three times as shy...I've had them come in the 'backdoor' no matter how much debris I've used to block them out...that's when I 'double up' the set....that usually nabs them.
I use the sticks and twigs over clods too though.
Yeah still make lure have some good stuff ready to bittle
What is the best trap for beaginer
Depending on what your trapping head over to f&t trading post to get started!
I have a foot trap but I can’t get any thing with it thay always take my bait but I don’t have a nuff money to by any starter kit
What are you trying to catch? The dog proof raccoon traps are a really good trap to get started with
Coyote Trapping School thay are realy hard for me to set and I don’t have one I just ordered one
How do you handle the trap after you catch something but don't do a remake?
+Zachariah Young If you make a catch and then pull that trap it needs to be cleaned and dyed again. There's no issues resetting it where you made a catch because everything smells the same, but if you move that trap to a new location the smell of the trapped animal on the trap is going to stand out like a sore thumb and will cause your trap to get dug up.
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great video! i don't like to use gloves i bed trap with to touch bait tho.. stinks up my traps and they want to dig them out.
That's why I like the rubber coated gloves. I rub dirt on them after I handle my bait and I haven't had any issues.
Does covering the dirt hole with leaves take away from the eye appeal/ concept of a dirt hole set?
I use a Handyman Jack with half of the shaft cut off and a 6 by 6 in. Piece of flat plate steel welded to the bottom of the base for more support to pull those stakes right out
You should turn your trap 90 degrees in either direction so the jaws close from the side. The way your trap is facing now increases the chance that the releasing of the jaws will "throw" the animals leg out of deepest part of the jaw set.
I think he made a great set! I set my dog at 1 o clock. I have been doing it this way for years. For me it's a perfect set and i have caught over 50 coyotes this way. If the trap placement is good then he should hit the pan and the jaws will never touch his feet until they close around the foot. I guess everyone has their own way of doing things.
Do you need a new pair of gloves every time or just wash them in some kind of order blocker.
Hi I'm from India I want sum traps
Awesome video man (and awesome channel!) , liked and subscribed. Hope our channel Outkast Adventures gets as successful as yours someday!!
Thanks! Keep after it, it just takes time and good, consistent content, and it looks like you've got a good start on that!
Como trabajan con las manos alli en la trampa,da escalofrios,yo uso un pincel,y 1 maderita para apisonar la zona,no me sobra ningun dedo...
Sprinkle Ant killer flakes around the outside of the entire trap set and it will keep them at bay!
Throw a dog a bone
.where does he stand...wright over top of it....the 6 inches back offset does not hold water.good life in that hole he will be there in the morning..good channel
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And catches lots of scavengers as well.
Iv spotted what I'm guessing is a giant coyote around my property and this mornin woke up to a pen bein drug 3ft and a hen missin I have traps on the way I'm gonna try this method in between pens and see what happens this coyote was huge
Thank you I planed on setting dirtholes for coons but I went to practice bedding my trap and I could never get it to bed right
alright send you some lure an bait an a red fox gland lure
Thanks!
Peta has left the chat.
Srsly this needs to be done. We need to junt
@Lord Trump PETA= ( People eating tasty animals )
Sheep's wool is a Grey killer
I do love some sheep's wool, and feathers!
I've heard that coyotes eat their own. Has anyone ever tried using dead coyotes for bait? Is that legal?
Some states its probably legal, others not. I'd say there are alot better things to use for bait that dead coyotes, bobcat and beaver being at the top of the list.
Beaver is amazing. Where I live in Pennsylvania it gets damned cold at night during the late season. Beaver doesn't freeze up as bad as leaner meats do. The animals want to eat it and it produces odor even in extreme cold. It's a great bait.
in the mail
I bought a trap to trap coyote that’s been hanging my house . I no nothing about trapping. I set the trap tied it to a fence post put some meat around it and left it. Came back next day there was no coyote in the trap but did catch a skunk. So set it again .the next day had no coyote but had a cat. Well that’s the end of my trapping days. Like I said I no nothing about trapping or traps it’s a MB 750 by Minnesota trapping that thing is hard to set to.
I only use 5/64 1×19 and 7 ft of snare cable and Amberg locks on coyotes only! They don't like me much! Hahaha
well I've made a mistake trying to catch that fox that's been patrolling private property that I had permission for I dipped branches into the lure but later on like when I went to reset my trail cam I utilize skunk essence probably equal to a teaspoon in two areas
That's a pretty good bit of skunk essence! Not necessarily a bad thing tho
Borax cleaner fvcks up an ant hill.
You didn't offset the trap? Rotate the trap so the jaws are pointing toward the hole so the jaws will not knock the leg of the animal out of swing of jaw.
I DO ONE THING TOTALLY DIFFERENT AND I LL SHOW YOU WHY! I TURN MY TRAP WHERE THE PAW GOES BETWEEN THE JAWS AND NOT OVER THEM!, I'VE HAD THE JAWS ACCUALY THROW THE FOOT OUT OF THE TRAP!, THINK ABOUT IT!, GOOD TRAPPER, BUT YOU TAKE ENTIRELY TOO LONG TO DO IT!, YOU ARE LEAVING TO MUCH SCENT BEING THAT CLOSE TO THE GROUND!, SURE, YOU WILL CATCH SOME, BUT YOU ARE MISSING WAY MORE THAN YOU KNOW. GOD BLESS.
People still don’t understand that animals feel pain too
too fucking bad
People don't understand that traps aren't designed to hurt the animal, just hold it. What about when those animals get overpopulated in an area and a disease like parvo or distemper comes through and kills a large number of them, or they get hit by cars and rot on the side of the road. Isn't it better to proactively manage their numbers and get the use of a natural, renewable, sustainable resource than for them to rot on the roadside?
hey did u see where I said send me our address I have lures i make that I put up against the big name lure makers.i will send u some
Yep, I'll email you!
Houseknives do you still have your lures i would like to test some
Houseknives hay may I have some bait to test out ?
mop up the tears that andre left.use a 'liberal'mop
You making yourself work to hard get an auger and a drill cuts your time in half
Gonna try a hammer drill and auger this year. Our red clay makes it tough to use an auger sometimes with a regular drill