the cadence... the cadence that he uses. Amazing actor. For me he is toghether with Mel (his best acting for sure) the 2 best in the movie. After that you have so many... stephen, the longshank, hamish!.
Father: All men betrayal.. All men lose hearts Robert: I DON'T WANT TO LOSE HEART (LIKE WHAT FATHER SAID) All men betrayal.. All men lose Hearts 1. Father lost his heart and betrayed his son for being KING... 2. Father of Scotland He lost his heart and betrayed his own country he still wanted to be under England's rules.
This actor was so good as Robert the Bruce! He looks so torn apart, angry, but also strong & determined. A truly Shakespearean character & performance. He should've gotten an Oscar for that, at least a nomination.
Fucking what? What the fuck are you talking about? What does their being Jewish or not have to do with whether they received accolades? Is your brain filled with maggots and shit?
Angus MacFadyen should have won an oscar for this performance. Three scenes do it for me in this movie: 1. This scene and in particular his delivery of "my hate will die with you" 2. The second time he visits his father after betraying Wallace saying "I don't want to lose heart" 3. The scene where he's walking through the Falkirk fields and seeing the families of the Scots who fell. I've never seen a better scene encapsulating the feeling of "what have I done"; his facial expressions of anguish and shame do it. Regardless, what a performance.
This scene in particular is my favorite. Before having children I felt hatred toward the father for his betrayal. Having now raised two children I understand the responsibility of a parent to be able to endure the naive hatred of a child in order to foster their best development.
@@DrownedInExile I wish I could do that to GRRM and ask WHY he let the writer of X Men Origin Wolverine and Troy to even sit down in the same room with him.
I think Robert was Braveheart in this movie all along, Wallace was the one who was awakening THE HEART in HIS KING. And not all Man or King can find in themselves what Bruce found.
“My hate will die with you”…that to me is the greatest line of the film. IMO, Robert is the best character in the story, as is the actor who portrays him. I feel like Robert has realized that his father knows what he did was wrong, but believes it’s more important to take the route that covers your own ass and believes more so that Robert needs to experience this coldness and bitterness and use it himself to be a better king. But Robert decides it’s time to end the cycle of backstabbing and treachery, starting with his father. It’s almost like his way of saying “shove it up your ass and fuck off, and fuck off knowing that you achieved nothing”
Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
Robert The Bruce's father never gave Wallace to the English, after losing the Battle of Falkirk William Wallce fled to France hoping to find support for the Scottish Rebellion, it was the Scottish knight John de Menteith who captured and handed Wallace to the English .
If anything, the movie actually portrays The Bruce in a more positive light as he was being coerced and forced into betraying and deceiving Wallace and the final betrayal isn't his fault but is actually a direct result of his father's scheming. In reality, Robert the Bruce was one of the many Scottish noble's who sided, either willingly or unwillingly, with Longshanks when Wallace was being hunted for after his defeat at Falkirk. He didn't really have an active role in his capture but he also wasn't ever previously allied with Wallace. What's funny though, is that John de Menteith eventually fought under Robert The Bruce though. The plot point in the film may have been the writer's way of referencing that event. Similar to how Comyn's betrayal of Wallace at the battle of Falkirk was also referenced when the noble's that had allied themselves with Wallace fled with their cavalry towards the end of the battle of Falkirk which is allegedly what John Comyn is said to have done during the actual real life battle.
when people don't do their own research and blame others. sigh. that's why we gotta take accountability for our own learning and research and move the hell on with our lives
"What makes a good king?" "Hate?" "Yes. Joffrey Baratheon, second of his name, was hateful. To his enemies and allies alike. For the mere suggestion that his rule and parentage lacked legitimacy, he had his enemy beheaded. Out of sheer spite, even though said enemy had capitulated. This sparked a bloody unnecessary war with the North. His own subjects had equal hatred for him, culminating in a riot that almost claimed his life. Whenever he lost a battle, he tortured his own betrothed. This was his downfall. Stories of his pointless cruelty reached the ears of his new betrothed and her mother. She had him poisoned, with a gruesome strangler potion on the day of his marriage. His rule was short, his legacy ignoble, and he was loved by no one. What good was his hatred?"
Traitor to his own people. Imagine if Wallace had lived and together, Wallace and Robert, took back the country. Some nobles would have turned against them, but some would not have and they would have had the numbers. And maybe gotten more allies from Ireland.
"You let yourself be deceieved". Say what you want but his Dad was wise AF. Thats some devil bill rockefeller levels of deception and machination upon his own family.
".....and you're not my father!" oops, that was too far.....the look on the father's face, the anger as he shuffles his rotting body forward and summons the strength to grab Robert and give him a verbal dressing down. The father was playing the age old game of politics, maneuvering and making the decision Robert couldn't or didn't want to make. "At last you know what it means to hate, now you're ready to be King!" Although he may have destroyed the relationship with his son, he's readied him to be King!........of course in reality it doesn't matter, Braveheart is a jovial piece of fiction. And none of this ever happened as depicted between Robert and his Father in real life. In real life, Wallace wasn't captured until 5th August 1305.......Robert's father Robert de Brus 6th Lord of Annandale died on 4th March 1304. He played no part in the betrayal of Wallace. John de Menteith, a Scottish Knight who had sworn fealty to Edward I (he'd been captured after the battle of Dunbar and imprisoned) was the one who betrayed Wallace and handed him over to the English. He went on to fight with Robert Bruce against the English, significantly increasing his own land holdings granted to him by Bruce. Not a trustworthy individual at all.
"My hate... will die... with you." Love that line and the delivery of it.
me too! its my favorite quote of the movie.
"maybe you... maybe me... (Laughs) don't matter"
"I'm speaking seriously"
(Knock the table)
"SO DO I...!!!"
This scene is good too.
the cadence... the cadence that he uses. Amazing actor. For me he is toghether with Mel (his best acting for sure) the 2 best in the movie. After that you have so many... stephen, the longshank, hamish!.
@@nestorenriqueleiva aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh! SO DO I!!!!!!!! that is fucking amazing!
Father:
All men betrayal.. All men lose hearts
Robert:
I DON'T WANT TO LOSE HEART
(LIKE WHAT FATHER SAID)
All men betrayal.. All men lose Hearts
1. Father lost his heart and betrayed his son for being KING...
2. Father of Scotland He lost his heart and betrayed his own country he still wanted to be under England's rules.
This actor was so good as Robert the Bruce! He looks so torn apart, angry, but also strong & determined. A truly Shakespearean character & performance. He should've gotten an Oscar for that, at least a nomination.
If people were to decide al Oscars would be a different world
You're right.
I strongly agree. He was so damn good as Robert the Bruce. I think he was the true star of the film imo.😊
He was also good as Jeff in Saw III
He really couldn't pick a side by my understanding
The most eye opening,mind blowing line:
“You let yourself be deceived”.
Yes indeed..!
A prince cannot afford to be naive...
Incredible acting by Angus Macfadyen. The pain and anger of betrayal.
He did an amazing job, indeed. The look in his face on the battlefield just was everything. Then this was like wow.
Indeed. For me it’s all about his eyes.
very underated actor, only seen him in this and saw
@@joepagram8287 I also saw him in Equilibrium and Blackbeard.
This should have been Angus Macfadyen’s Oscar nominating moment
I wish he was nominated, but nope the academy didn't think the acting was oscar worthy
Because he's not Jewish and Mel Gibson isn't Jewish, they will never reward his films because of that fact
He was excellent
Fucking what? What the fuck are you talking about? What does their being Jewish or not have to do with whether they received accolades? Is your brain filled with maggots and shit?
@@jakenorthbriz correct
Angus MacFadyen should have won an oscar for this performance. Three scenes do it for me in this movie:
1. This scene and in particular his delivery of "my hate will die with you"
2. The second time he visits his father after betraying Wallace saying "I don't want to lose heart"
3. The scene where he's walking through the Falkirk fields and seeing the families of the Scots who fell. I've never seen a better scene encapsulating the feeling of "what have I done"; his facial expressions of anguish and shame do it.
Regardless, what a performance.
he is real beraveheart
"You have bled with Wallace...........now bleed with me"
Gets me every time.
@@rossguthrie6256 Very true. It hits very deep after sitting through the almost three hours of this superb film.
The Bruce’s relationship with his dad are the best scenes in the movie.
This scene in particular is my favorite. Before having children I felt hatred toward the father for his betrayal. Having now raised two children I understand the responsibility of a parent to be able to endure the naive hatred of a child in order to foster their best development.
The mix of anger and absolute heartbreak in his FATHERRRR
I think Angus Macfadyen should've been in Game of Thrones.
Senior Zolo He could have played Robb Stark if they’d made Game of Thrones in 1995. He and Richard madden could be related as far as I’m concerned
His father could have been casted in The Walking Dead.
Great. Now I'm picturing Angus Macfadyen reading the shit-show script for 8th season. Then storming into D&D's office and screaming WHY!!!!!
As Stannis
@@DrownedInExile I wish I could do that to GRRM and ask WHY he let the writer of X Men Origin Wolverine and Troy to even sit down in the same room with him.
I think Robert was Braveheart in this movie all along, Wallace was the one who was awakening THE HEART in HIS KING. And not all Man or King can find in themselves what Bruce found.
Perhaps, but I read that the sword Wallace wielded was named "Braveheart".
@@kyleeaton2660 oh so THAT'S why the movie ended on that shot.. The film was about the sword all along
@@kyleeaton2660 no.Robert The Bruce was Braveheart. No one ever called Wallace Braveheart. Except Mel Gibson.
@@alienlife7754 That's not what I said. I only said Braveheart was the name of his sword.
"My hate... will die... with you..."
He was so good that I hated him when he betrayed Wallace. But this redemption scene was to be admired for all the ages.
He was the best actor in the movie by far. Just wow.
Yeah. The Old Leper.
I'd put him and Patrick McGoohan on the same level in this movie, though Angus' part was meatier, so okay we can give him the nod!
This masterpiece required masterclass of acting.
One of my favorite lines, for my own personal reasons.
dsmusicbird same here!
Exactly the same here...
You deceived me? Or my hate will die with you?
@@doxholiday1372
"My hate will die with you"
what reason
“My hate will die with you”…that to me is the greatest line of the film. IMO, Robert is the best character in the story, as is the actor who portrays him. I feel like Robert has realized that his father knows what he did was wrong, but believes it’s more important to take the route that covers your own ass and believes more so that Robert needs to experience this coldness and bitterness and use it himself to be a better king. But Robert decides it’s time to end the cycle of backstabbing and treachery, starting with his father. It’s almost like his way of saying “shove it up your ass and fuck off, and fuck off knowing that you achieved nothing”
I know I would be that angry if I was Robert the Bruce at that very moment.
Kyle Eaton I feel the same way if someone betrayed me or deceived me
That’s called being Scottish, m8
I’m always a fan of Robert the Bruce. I thinks it’s the actor who sells it for me.
I didn't know Emperor Palpatine was in this film...
"At last you know what it means to hate. Now you are ready to be a Sith."
I laughed
Ha ha!
1:25 Mel Gibson admitted in the DVD commentary he borrowed that door-closing shot from the ending of the Godfather.
I wish more leaders today would follow Robert’s example
They were! But CIA would never allow it within the realm of the third world.
Patrice Lumumba is a great example.
Possibly one of the most powerful scenes in film, ever.
Lol
There are so many great characters in this film with great lines.
Robert The Bruce: A far better King than Edward the Longshanks and Prince Edward together.
Not really, longshanks was a top tier monarch
Not in the movie 😕
@@zigzgshodzixhoxohxh3800 hardly
You do understand this is a movie right? 🎥 🍿
Longshanks was and is considered a great king by the English
The Bruce was and is considered a great king by the Scots.
Perspective.
0:03 0:11 0:30 0:33 0:42 and 1:20 Angus should got a Best Supporting Oscar nomination.
All men of honor are kings. A king without honor is less than a peasant under God and his people's eyes
As history prefers to write them as. We starve for these illusions over the truth staring back at us in the mirror
0:00
When dad hid all the videogames.
LOOOL!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This scene is very well made
My hate will die with you. That was proper deep.
This is 1 of my favorite movies. Love it 💕
Seen this hundreds of times😊
Family can always be the worst
My relacionship with my father.
This is Rian Johnson’s son after watching The Last Jedi
Angus McFadyen later went on to star in Hirokin: The Last Samurai.
Rick Chambers I wish I could like this twice
To be sold out by your own father...
It was hard to even type that.
Most people don’t have fathers in the 1st world enjoy the collapse
Very true...good point
Our Father which art in heaven,
Hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come,
Thy will be done in earth,
as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil:
For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever.
Amen.
Amen.
Stella Maris Amen
amen
my Presbyterian ass says forgive us our trespassers as, as we forgive those who trespass against us
Stella Maris
Amen
Thank you for the prayer
The question is why did you decide to do so ?
0:10 my reaction to the Braveheart 2 trailer
Robert The Bruce's father never gave Wallace to the English, after losing the Battle of Falkirk William Wallce fled to France hoping to find support for the Scottish Rebellion, it was the Scottish knight John de Menteith who captured and handed Wallace to the English .
The whole movie is historically inaccurate..still a masterpiece though
Deus ex machina... the movie had to end somehow, but yeah I had heard that.
If anything, the movie actually portrays The Bruce in a more positive light as he was being coerced and forced into betraying and deceiving Wallace and the final betrayal isn't his fault but is actually a direct result of his father's scheming. In reality, Robert the Bruce was one of the many Scottish noble's who sided, either willingly or unwillingly, with Longshanks when Wallace was being hunted for after his defeat at Falkirk. He didn't really have an active role in his capture but he also wasn't ever previously allied with Wallace. What's funny though, is that John de Menteith eventually fought under Robert The Bruce though. The plot point in the film may have been the writer's way of referencing that event. Similar to how Comyn's betrayal of Wallace at the battle of Falkirk was also referenced when the noble's that had allied themselves with Wallace fled with their cavalry towards the end of the battle of Falkirk which is allegedly what John Comyn is said to have done during the actual real life battle.
They never met at all!
Such a powerful scene 😮
Sad reaction when Robert The Bruce mad at his father.
"FAAATTTHHHEEERRR" 😂
I love this movue, but with all due respect for Mel, Angus outacted him in nearly every scene!
Mel Directed Angus, and everyone else.
so true ^ _ ^
"You rotten bastard!" -Robert, the 17th Earl of Bruce
Great acting from Angus Macfadyen and Ian Bannen.
i love this fucking scene!
He was so good-looking
when people don't do their own research and blame others. sigh. that's why we gotta take accountability for our own learning and research and move the hell on with our lives
John Fury
"What makes a good king?"
"Hate?"
"Yes. Joffrey Baratheon, second of his name, was hateful. To his enemies and allies alike. For the mere suggestion that his rule and parentage lacked legitimacy, he had his enemy beheaded. Out of sheer spite, even though said enemy had capitulated. This sparked a bloody unnecessary war with the North. His own subjects had equal hatred for him, culminating in a riot that almost claimed his life.
Whenever he lost a battle, he tortured his own betrothed. This was his downfall. Stories of his pointless cruelty reached the ears of his new betrothed and her mother. She had him poisoned, with a gruesome strangler potion on the day of his marriage. His rule was short, his legacy ignoble, and he was loved by no one. What good was his hatred?"
"Ya know that Leper, that were up in the loft in Braveheart????? ......... I'm him" Big John Fury
ok, I’m ready, let’s roll
Bruce was a great Scottish hero ,, he did not betray Wallace at all ,, too bad Gibson had to portray Bruce in that manner.
Unlimited power.
Robert-de-Bruce lived in Essex & its possible The Bruce was born there
I wanna go see it at the movie theater at the Regal Coldwater Movie Theater.
I like how Robert the Bruce finally grewnanpair of balls at the end. Too little too late for Wallace, bit whatever.
The inner Boomer must be smothered. Give not thy heart to avarice and treason, young men. Discover the precious truth of HONOR, young men.
Turns out old RTB wasn,t a leprechaun after all yatatattie tee tie Dee tie
Traitor to his own people. Imagine if Wallace had lived and together, Wallace and Robert, took back the country. Some nobles would have turned against them, but some would not have and they would have had the numbers. And maybe gotten more allies from Ireland.
did Robert the Bruce's father set out traps for the English men to beat on William and arrest him?
Tyler Craythorne yes he did
The old man was dead when Wallace was taken. Read a book!!!
My Life
Who's ready for the braveheart sequel
Yes. The return of the beheaded.
The ultimate redpill: 0:58 to 1:19
@FC6-3.7 I know right lmao
Thats my great grandfather Robert
This is the relationship jesus has with god...
Thus you know what it means to hate
"My hate will die with ypu"
His father is a traitor and proud of himself.
A Democrat
Honestly at this point a Republican too
I like the dude’s goatee/beard
Robert the Bruce's real father's name from 700 years ago was Robert de brus 6th lord of Annandale
the real actual Robert the Bruce's dad in real life is Robert de brus 6th lord of Annandale that's what it said online
William Wallace wasn’t the one people called Braveheart. That was the man being depicted by this actor. Robert The Bruce.
U men bled with Wallace …. Now bleed w me 🔥🔥🔥👍👍👍👍
FATHER!
I always wait for arm to come off when he grabs him
FATHER!!!
... the Devil is in the Details
"You let yourself be deceieved".
Say what you want but his Dad was wise AF. Thats some devil bill rockefeller levels of deception and machination upon his own family.
a wise coward
La cuestión es... ¿hubiera conseguido Escocia su libertad de no haber llegado él a rey?
Epico
Yes
1:10 - 1:27 how I feel about my own biological father....
Boo hoo
Sorry to hear that
You're not alone.
Same are the feelings of mine towards my father, brother life ain't kind to all of us. God bless you be all the strength you need
@@jackgrimaldi8685 get stuffed Woop!
I know how he feels ..
if it wasn’t for his coward father wallace and robert would have fought the english and got freedom
Old man Bruce reminds me of emperor Palpatine
Dam is this Jeff's denlon's dad in another universe
Robert the Bruce's dad in real life wasn't leper like in braveheart
Tyler Craythorne Oh, so you met him?
He was pretty ill in his old age though.
Le ba no on .
Here for John Fury!
So you are all into Kings I take it
NÃO QUERO HERANÇA NENHUMA. SÓ MINHA LIBERDADE.
💍
Pretty much
🥺😞
Braveheart the Real Wild Child - Iggy Pop
".....and you're not my father!" oops, that was too far.....the look on the father's face, the anger as he shuffles his rotting body forward and summons the strength to grab Robert and give him a verbal dressing down. The father was playing the age old game of politics, maneuvering and making the decision Robert couldn't or didn't want to make. "At last you know what it means to hate, now you're ready to be King!" Although he may have destroyed the relationship with his son, he's readied him to be King!........of course in reality it doesn't matter, Braveheart is a jovial piece of fiction. And none of this ever happened as depicted between Robert and his Father in real life.
In real life, Wallace wasn't captured until 5th August 1305.......Robert's father Robert de Brus 6th Lord of Annandale died on 4th March 1304. He played no part in the betrayal of Wallace. John de Menteith, a Scottish Knight who had sworn fealty to Edward I (he'd been captured after the battle of Dunbar and imprisoned) was the one who betrayed Wallace and handed him over to the English. He went on to fight with Robert Bruce against the English, significantly increasing his own land holdings granted to him by Bruce. Not a trustworthy individual at all.
Good man Robert the bruce father. Us English wanted Wallace's heart on a fucking plate🏴🏴
Yeah, you were there, sure🤣
Aye
vrchat community rn:
they aways betray those who have fought for them, honored and loved them the most. no honor ,,no honor at all anymore
FATHER!... You! Rotten! BASTARD! WHY?! WHY?!