Dave's shifty eyes (not listening)
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That Blaster kid calling his mom "honey" 😂
He also called her "Linda". Who is this Linda who won't discipline her child? What's he going to do when he has a boss or is talking to a cop? I would not accept that behavior from him.
@@1mag1nat1vename Linda means "beautiful" in Portuguese and something similar in Spanish
@@henryayanna9401 oh that’s cute. I bet the dad calls the mom Linda and the kid picked it up. I had a family member, when they were a small like that kid call their grandfather “honey/sweetheart” in a different language because that’s what the grandma called him.
@@1mag1nat1vename He's likely just mimicking how his dad talks.
@@CascadiaStronk then his dad should deliver the beating. I was made aware of my station, as a kid, and it kept me from being rude to the wrong people. If his mom shows him discipline, instead of just kindness, he may live a little longer.
"Linda LInda Linda, Listen to me, Honey" LOL, ohhh that poor Mom.
Why would people even ask? 🤣 The dude is obviously processing and thinking of what to say next 🤣
"Linda, honey, listen '(said the toddler to his mother)
Dave is such a genius. his eyes he is processing lightning fast, scanning, learning, becoming stronger every second of information he absorbs.
Ni is a cancerous tumor
Omg!!! My 10 year old INTJ daughter does this. She always looks so bored because she focuses on the sameness and dismisses so much. Lord help me 😂. It’s my duty to show her the proof when she is wrong in the most gentle way. INTJs are very sensitive and I ❤️ u guys. We are fun and funny together.
We are, most of us bases our self worth on competency. So when we fuck up we take it very personally.
@@philosopherlogic that’s why i chose to love you guys just because. We are the strange ones and we gotta stay close ❤️😁. Plus we have a sick sense of humor and we get each other 😉
This concept of not receiving more information cause you "already know" reminds me of that scene from Arnold Schwarzenegger's "Last Action Hero" where his wife calls him at the office, so he pulls out a recording of himself saying "uh huh .... yea yea yea" puts the phone down on the player and walks away 🤣
I always wondered about Dave’s shifty eyes, but Fe kept me from commenting on it. 😂
It’s also an affiliative attribute.
@@SailorSiFi sorry, wrong comment section 😂😂
Dave is a TeSi (Te+Ne) and his "shifty eyes" are Ne searching for associations.
@@Iceman219 TeSi?? What?? How?
@@Iceman219 Dave is an INTJ with a savior Fi.
As an Ni, I really have to work on that Open to experience(five factor model) in the sensory more so than the abstract. Abstract theories goes into the philosophical realm, which is interesting and helps with my creative thinking. I can discuss most things under the sun and moon.
Anything when it involves concrete experiences(trying a new class, doing something "adventurous", risk-taking) or changing up my routine I havent prepared for(like spontaneously asking me to go somewhere) is where I will get weird on you at
A solmen "amen."
I have the tendency to ghost those that surprise me with new concrete requests the most. Need to stop that.
wow, where did you find that footage of 4 year old dave for the outtro?
Good luck getting respond
Look in the right bottom corner when that footage is played and you'll see the OP: kenyalo
Yes 💯 I always try to remind myself that I can learn something from everyone but then they start talking and I’m like, “But it would sure help if you said something (more) original and interesting. Guess I’ll teach myself.” Or I tell myself everyone’s unique, then I get on dating apps and am like, “Guess not.” Obviously both are true to some extent. It just gets so boring sometimes. I do LOVE when people actually surprise me or help me look at something differently. It makes my brain feel like it’s waking up from some long monotonous slumber.
I'm lead Ni too, but I'm savior Consume. So I try to take the time to understand what I'm gathering and fit it into my known information, but, when I don't have that time (like mid-conversation), I toss a lot of it as well.
@@dimchantz That's why I wrote savior (even before the edit); you have two of them. Just from knowing I'm savior Consume (which I have 2nd), you can easily deduce that I'm lead Sleep. As an INxJ, I still hate chaos and the curve balls that reality throws at you, but I'm constantly testing my double-activated Ni worldview with new information to make sure I'm going in the right direction.
Ooooo! I’m trying to write a story with a Savior Sleep & Consume INFJ and I was wondering about it during the video, and then found this comment!!! If you don’t mind, can you talk more about what it’s like being a Lead-Sleep Ni user, and how that balances out with Demon Se in Savior Consume? When do you find yourself using Consume if it’s hard to keep up sometimes in fast-paced external situations? And what is it like having Demon Blast even when your lead function is a blasting function? If there’s anything you want to share I would be so ecstatic 🤩🤩 ~MM Ne/Fi CS/P(B)
@@sophiaredwood5825 That's funny. I'm actually trying to finish up a story of mine today; I guess people of the same type tend to do the same things. Being a lead Sleep Ni user is really frustrating because nothing ever goes the way you want it too, the way you planned it out in your head. I myself am a staunch perfectionist, but not like a super organized, 9-5 type of guy. It takes a lot of time and energy to complete things, but, when I do, I do it to the utmost quality because I see them as a representation of my self-worth.
The reason I consume a lot is not because I like the chaos but because I want to limit it and have the ability to control what's coming next. If I gather enough information, there won't be as many surprises. The sad thing is that you'll never know enough; there will always be that uncertainty, and that's what I hate. I consume very slowly; an ENFP like you, for example, may read a book faster than me because you always want to move on to the next thing, while I have to make sure everything is in my known information. I don't perform particularly well in fast-paced situations like when I'm playing sports or debating someone else. I started playing chess earlier this year, and most of the games I lose is on time. I am really competitive, though, because I have double-activated masculine Ti.
Yeah, I've been writing too much; let me wrap this up. I know blast constitutes my two "largest" functions, but I am not good at it at all. That's why I hope I haven't been boring you. I can organize concepts internally, but explaining them to other people is difficult. It might be due to me having Ti and not Te, but I think my feminine Ni has a role in this too. I am constantly paying attention to the concepts, but it's so difficult for me to put them into something solid that others will understand. I can still have conversations with the tribe and play with others' emotions, so that must be me blasting as well. However, I'm not much of a "fun guy." You're more likely to find me lying on my bed, wondering what my purpose is in life, than partying or going to the movies.
@@TheGrandChieftain Oh my goodness thank you so much!!! The fact that you wrote all that out is so amazing!! I think I definitely have a better sense of how the animals and functions would or could work for your type, so THANK YOU! It means a lot 🤩🤩
This! Proves my INTJness! It's like people speak about the same program but with different descriptions of it.
Ni it's interested in the general understanding. While Te parent in raport with Ti critic just checks the structure of other arguments to see if they find a new understanding and then proceeds to extract the points forming the argument and it incorporates them in its database of general understanding, or it goes all Hulk and it smashes it in the database under the magenta is not red, but I will treat it like red category. Same like red, but with a different name category, and then when he is not able to categorize them, he gets stressed out, and then proceeds to compulsively read articles all day and night in order to remove that gap about socionics and personality types...
It feels draining if there is a lot of new information. Cause I know that I would be forced to make an update sometime soon and it's better to do it on my terms. That's why sometimes it seems that ignorance is really bliss.
Your comment is what I have been doing all day today.
as an Ne person I have this same kind of "shifty eye syndrome" but it's because I'm often processing new ways to think about topics that are completely irrelevant to the conversation. XD I struggle to pay attention unless I can somehow steer the conversation (or just abruptly change the topic when I feel like there has been a long enough silence) towards the topic that I'm expanding in my head. The hardest conversations to pay attention to are the ones about sensory events, i.e. what happened to you at work and who hates who sort of stuff...
Completely relatable. LiJos description of having to land the plane was also relatable. When in my Ni world I'm an incredibly awful listener, but I think I've gotten much better at catagorizing the information by useful or not as it's coming that I appear to be listening much better then I used to. Lol
That kid at the end knows what he wants from life.
As an avid practitioner of Ne, people with Ni are like crack! All the connections I can make have one set back, the inability to STOP them from being made. Ni truly listens and organizes Ne in a way that it can be packaged, labeled, and sold effectively.
If ever there were a superhero team up...
And vice versa, Ne is like anti-gravity to my Ni, opening up possibilities that my Ni 'pessimism' doesn't usually see
@@chrisriley9182 Gotta tell you man, what you said makes it feel like the world is not as hostile... was appreciated.
I imagine those who are obsessively narrowing, same-sing, generalizing everything..
Are probably not present atm 🤣
I've always wondered why generally I can sit and read something, no problem. But sometimes, especially if I'm really getting into an article and I feel like there's some great stuff there that I'm really digging it, I get overwhelmed and have to set it down and walk away. It makes me physically agitated and I either have to let it sit, and then come back to it. Or I need to pull out some scrap paper and start taking notes and organizing the ideas. But this totally makes sense. When there's a bunch of info that I really could care less about, then I can read, or even skim, through it very quickly and I'm generally bored out of my mind. But as soon as it's something that hits one of my personal obsessions, then I've got to go really slow and make sure I truly grok what's being said and sort it into its proper arena.
yes!!!
I feel you, Dave (Brailley I do). If I think I heard it before, I get bored and impatient... but new information creates a temporary chaos. It must be sorted and evaluated immediately to restore order, putting me in danger of overgeneralizing. 😅 I try to compensate with "consume" behavior, but I think you're right, what works better is to stop relying so heavily on my own bullshit framework sometimes. Appreciate the advice.
I think the process of comparing new information to what you already know to be true or know to work applies to "Si" too, and it's a behavior more characteristic with having the sleep and blast animal in the top 3 or as saviors. I love the process though, because it keeps what's already sorted as sorted, time isn't put into brainstorming anymore, the constructive process of achieving a goal is known, all that is left is execution. Probably because I have consume first, I can't wait to organize/ catalog/ categorize or characterize the information I have been learning (sleep-"Fi-Si") and be able to use it serve a purpose, accomplish a task, add to my skill set/improving on it (blast- "Si-Te)
I believe the difference between Si and Ni is the difference between translating and giving an interpretation from one language to another.
Blasters: *constantly interrupting*
Me as a Consumer: *allowing the interruptions to happen while at the same time internally screaming that I wasn’t finished and that they are missing something important that I wanted to add*
Honestly I actually have to give myself permission to interrupt someone just so I can add to the conversation.
Yes. I am bad at interrupting. Working on that one.
Sounds like savior De to me.
Yees! If I am confortable with the person I will let them.know they interrupted me..
I'm INTP and trust me I interrupt a lot. Even during other's interruptions
Haha, love the video example! So funny. I always thought Dave's shifting eyes were him processing and affirming Shan. It looks very positive to me. Hearing how Dave is actually processing information is crazy to me. I don't think like that at all. I guess I'm more like Shan. It's all so intriguing! Btw, great color sweater on you, Shan!
Being able to take in new info for what it's worth is a skill. I envy you
Iooks like magenta 😃😇
That kid is gonna be a lawyer one day
Kid's already a pro.
I was thinking the same
after this video i thought of something
it feels like lead Ni's are good at learning new skill, because they don't auto pilot it and won't get bored of organizing it cause it's all new
but mastering a skill would be hard for them because they need to go over the known patterns and examine them over and over again to get the new hidden patterns and improve their skill to mastery
that is the case from my experience
Almost everyone who meets me for the first time get offended or feel I'm ignoring them when I do this very same shifty eyes like Dave does.
In a way, that's true since we're eliminating but it's not 'personal' but rather objective. - fellow intj ni/fi
When those shifty eyes shift most rapidly, it's usually followed a funny comment by dave and a laugh by shan.
This describes my experience with Ni like so well. I’m always one to skim things when I’m reading and be like “Bruh I already know that, this is useless” Blast first consume last lmao
I agree on this on so many levels. I got the point 2 minutes in.
lol. I stopped listening about 3 minutes in, but then realized how ironic that is and re-watched it. I'm so proud of myself. 😂
@@Sharkuterie327 me too! Lol!
Most conversations I’m in my brain is constantly trying to wrap it up because i just simply don’t care. That’s the best way i can explain it, is i don’t care about talking or listening to you, let me chill out in my ni land
As an infj the "I am John Snow, and I know nothing" approach has worked for me.
Depending on how big their box is (and other factors), consume lasts can be the worst to commiserate with
What Oi is doing there is super easy to look at and interpret Di as. Di may very well listen and go: "Oh, I know exactly how I feel about this", or "Yes, I understand this already"
yes, i am very quickly to dismiss anything that my Fi ”knows best” about. like i’ve had friends telling me ”you seem down” and i can’t see it myself and deny it but a few days’ later, it just hits me and i have to acknowledge that they were right. i try to speed up the process nowadays by really considering whether there’s anything to what they’re saying, but i still mess up from time to time.
@@AS-jq4lb Good job with the self awareness! :)
Omg THIS!! This is so close to what I do actually. For me it’s a visual puzzle though - like a puzzle with no edges where everything I hear, read, consume is filtered abs deconstructed into its finite conceptual puzzle piece that needs to fit in its spot in my infinite working puzzle. Many overlap conceptually, but it’s all about putting things in place with its similar counterparts.
If it’s new and I don’t know where it goes then it floats in the ether until I find the spot it goes... ugh haha So good. “Defragmentation” at all times.
Filtering while someones talking feels exhausting. When someone is talking all I try to do is absorb and memorise so that I have time to digest it later at a slower pace. Results in a lot of imaginary conversations thinking about what I would have said if I had time to think it through
Is this only Ni, doing this, or Si as well and how would this look when M-Si is doing this?
Also, how do Ni Lego blocks differ from Ti Jenga blocks?
I don't think it's the same for Si. Ni is all about building in theory. Personally when new information comes in and it doesn't fit the existing narrative I have to come up with some new theory to explain how this new information fits. It's super useful when it comes to evolving existing theories. I design tailored therapy programs for a living by using existing frameworks I created for dealing with reported symptoms and conditions. But it's very focused on making what's presented to me fit my narrative.
Si is more for facts. I don't see Si building too much but rather trying to understand a narrative they've been given from the sensory world. That's personally why I prefer ENTPs over ISTJs as lawyers. The ENTP is going to create a truth in my favour by pulling shit out if their ass whereas the ISTJ is only going to work off what the clients told them, if the facts don't fit that story the ISTJ lawyer will pick the facts over client narrative.
Being based in theory vs reality are super different. And I personally find higher Si needs to be told what to do and Ni does whatever it want.
Si also does this. It's what introverted Observer dominants (Oi) do, the Ni and Si doms.
I believe since Ni-Se axis has narrow concepts and Se is random facts, Ni uses its known concepts and shove random Se facts into them. So then Ne-Si axis is the reverse, and therefore would be shoving Ne concepts into the known Si facts. Basically, Ni organizes its new facts by known concepts, and Si organizes its new concepts by known facts. Hope that made sense, lol
It's similar, but different. Lead Si will constantly check if the new theories/concepts/patterns are consistent with the known facts. And it depends on the animal's order as well.
This video really helps me to understand individuals with demon Ni, constantly "throwing away" information that they deem to be irrelevant to them or it just doesn't fit into their puzzle or the vision they have.
Shan, I made it to 3:45 and I caught myself getting up and walking away. LOL
I’m actually surprised that my intuition was somewhat accurate in guessing what the shifty eyes were. I picked it up abstractly but couldn’t articulate it until the idea of “sorting/going through” ...if anything his shifty eyes actually seemed engaging bc it looked like he was heavily focusing on what was being said.
“Nobody is saying anything” Omg it’s so true😳. I find it more and more difficult to sit through movies for example, because I can see where they are going so quickly, same with music. These days it’s only documentaries and stand up comedy for me, they re the only ones that don’t bore me in the first 10 minutes 😏
While I do think that Ni doms are pretty awesome, it is interesting how much they have been mystified to the point that everyone wants to be one, in the MBTI community. But then you have several Ni doms here in the comments describing it as a liability in their life.
Describes my brain in the exact way my brain works.
I AM playing an obsessive eliminating game- thank you, now I'm more certain I have savior ni in the middle
I'm trying to reflect on how I might do this...I think it's more like, I don't necessarily have much to say on a lot of topics if it's an area of knowledge that's outside my personal expertise. But I do have a very clear sense of how my values (valuations?) stack up on a great variety of different things and can sort through that quite easily. This thing is this good, better than this thing, worse than that thing, this guy likes this, this other guy doesn't like that, etc. I love rating things on scales, like from 1 to 10, or doing rankings/tier lists. And I'll sometimes use both of those to try to get a point across in casual conversation.
As a fellow Ti user, ENTP in my case I describe Ti, relating to a value system, as if we are critics. I often do that, when I watch a film I just make an internal process of rating all the aspects on the movie to determine if it was good. For example, I would take into account cinematography, story, acting, production value and at the end I will determine if i liked the movie depending of how well it ranked in my mind. As if I was a movie critic. Then i will be surprised when someone likes something I deem bad, I will be like, but how can you like it, when the acting was terrible, the story was generic and the cinematography uninspiring. My mind has trouble thinking that people just like things just because.
I will send this video to my monthly accusations of exactly doing the same thing.............thanks guys, honesty thanks, i got tired explaining myself all the time.
Love it! My friend is the same or similar type to Dave. He also has a hard time taking in new information, especially if it doesn't fit in with what he already believes to be true. He also sets things aside that he finds unimportant or off topic. He will say something like, "Let's shelf that idea for now." But he has no intention to discussing it. Haha!
Side note: I am double activated Te at the top, so pain from the tribe feels so real! I am learning to do my Fi and Si though. So hard though because going to your saviors is so addicting! Also learning to double decide...my gosh is it hard...I am jealous of double deciders. They have some voodoo magic!
But when double deciders start to freak out about control and chaos...I am reminded...oh yeah...where all my problems are about self/tribe they have the same thing but with control/chaos...then I don't feel so bad...
Yeah I think I have a Oe responsibility to grasp concepts thrown at me. Source of pride even
My favorite video of all time. Linda listen
Lol came for personality theory stayed for the kid’s attitude.
Idk why other people would want lead Ni, it fucking sucks. I literally throw fits when the information doesn't match up and I will become obsessed with making it fit by coming up with theories to explain the unfamiliar information.
Yea agree .. Often times I didnt realize that my plan sucks due to an Ni-Fi that just being delusional, i mean some S type could easly saw that it wont work. soo embarassing aah
Ni definitely simmers down all the redundancy into a rule. Rules are much easier to remember than all the information and then we’re constantly evaluating if new information fits those rules
Wow this was so interesting! Thank you for this video. Loved the end clip especially. :D
I think I now have a lot better grasp on Ni. I know I have sometimes done that too when I shift the information to my mind boxes as like "eeh, I already know it, it is the same as this" and something like that but it is so weird to think that people try to do it with ALL the information they get. I find it kind of annoying (in some situations), because yes, it may be the same, but sometimes it is reallllyyy not, and people just put labels on things and let the new information slip past them. Tbh often when I am talking about something new and important I have discovered or smth I'm very afraid that people would do that to the info I am giving. Maybe it is because of lead Ne?
Oh god, that is awfully and sadly so true... My own image of it is that I have to box everything and that the lid NEEDS to be on (and even better locked) so I don’t ever have to go revisit that again. One of my biggest fear is to be boring, I now get where this is coming from 😂
Madonna is relentless for her "shift eyes". Not only does she shift her eyes, she even pauses and shifts her eyes up and down while someone is interviewing her!
...anyone else just kept on analyzing Dave's eyes the whole video? Fe-Si here 🙋🏻
You guys are doing really good with the shirt color combos
Yeah, lead Ni doesn't actually listen. You're thinking about what they're saying, but in complete different levels and rules that you have in your head.
"whatever, yeah" i know this, i know that, normal, normal
everything is the same, Ni is very indifferent
i just love the cut
Aaahw that kid is so cute! :D
Everyone wants to be lead NI except for me. I want to be lead FI
...and here I was thinking that Dave was phasing out.
That's Ni??? Man I do that all the time; I just thought I was being an asshole and just and being super pretentious and judgy about the kind of stuff people talk about
Could be both 😏😂
@@scilines lol ya I mean it probably is but it is nice to actually know what I'm doing so I can be more decent about it
Jacob Brown So true 😁
Consume last Oi tends to loop by associating generalizations and ignoring new information. They don’t listen or put weight on opinions outside their own which might seem judgy.
Blast last Oe like to start new things, get bored developing/maintaining, and move on to the next thing. They tend to seem indecisive.
I shift my eyes like that often when I'm thinking hard.
Same... that my explain why my eyes never shift tho.
JK, I do not know what my eyes are doing, how do you notice that? Did you suddenly become aware of it, someone mentioned it to you or saw it in a recording?
@@farrex0 I noticed it when I was little. I don't know how how.
This whole description sounds so very Si. Also interesting that Shan says she doesn't process like that, but.. they both claim to have Ni pretty high up there (INTJ/ENTJ).. soo..
In the context of her being an ENTJ, I think she's implying that she's lead Te/Se
You’re processing and following her dude. 😜my hubby does this with me. Do other people not process when they listen? Do they not listen haha.
I do the same shifty eyes thing when I'm trying to comprehend if what the other person is saying actually make sense or not, because I don't want to take "wrong" informations as facts or, a terrible advice as a real thing .. and if I detected a few wrong informations I would totally stop listening to that person and start staring at them out of boredom .
So yeah shifting my eyes = listening.
Staring at you = your forehead is kinda small compared to the rest of your face 💔😂
It's also a way of connecting things to each other so I could remember them better .
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Oh my fucking GOD my head just exploded! This has to be my fav video of yours! So interesting to hear you talk about how your Ni-Se brain works with such detail! And in that part where you said you take in way less than what's being said and try to filter it down to what u already know, that sounded terrifying to me! Like, why on earth would you want to not take in the whole information, maybe you miss sth, some important NEW connection! And, what a loss indeed! I'm infp, obviously.
For me it's more like: I need to take the information AS IS, like it's dumped into my brain and then it blooms into a flower and then I can make connections with what I already know, but it's exactly that: connections, not that I dump everything into the same pipe! God, that sounds like a terrible idea, because you miss all the nuances.
The make-up? AMAZING!!
Same, nothing new is said in this video......
I’m a INTJ but I love new or to consume, I spend around 8 or more hours a day reading and listening to audio books, even while working as a electrician. And I’m always reorganizing and seeing connections. But it seems like I’m useing Ni/Te/Fi all at once most of the day while studying new things and older known topics like the Bible, but my body is generally fixing something so my body is doing Se, I wonder if you can learn to balance your functions to use them all most of the time and not be so confined to only 2 at once.
I literally wont like ever let someone finish talking cause i just assume i know what they’re about to say... i know its annoying but... i can’t help being all knowing like... jk hehe
why this is so mee
Quick question: what does an alpha INFJ look like? I've been applying OP to grow and it has been an exponential change in view and use of my demon functions, especially with sensing and the chaos of it all. But what would that look like?
Resident INFJ, Jamaica
I’ve been wondering if I’m SBPC Instead of SCBP. But my brain only does that when I’m having to force myself to learn something new..
I’ve been describing this as the difference with my brain to an intp I know and she’s like how can you function when I say how my brain just auto filters out excessive ness and only keeps the absolute needs to be able to understand something.
Yes exactly
Unlike INTP who'd just be trailing off on a tangent in my head.
Linda linda
Linda, Linda, look it . . .
Don't know if this is the right place for this, but don't know where else to ask as they seem overwhelmed via email. Whats a first step towards helping Objective Personality with their system? I'd like to contribute something.
Let's call it what it really is, what everyone else doesn't want to say. Shannon is fucking annoying. The lengths people go to, to avoid the truth.
I can totally relate to this.
YES!
Your 1st word should be the point. Talking to someone with lead Ni is like entering a conversation 1/2 complete. The plan is in their head. If you ask them a question they start at the beginning of their diatribe and believe repeating the same irrelevant stuff will somehow clear up the question. When in fact they don’t even know what the question is because they are just downloading that abstract plan that makes sense to only them without a real world point of reference. Over and over again.... I side with the little boy. They are at grandmas house so the rules for home don’t apply.
This video is very interesting. 🤔
Thanks for the very live.ly info
I notice the same for Ti leads. What are the nuanced differences u think?
Somebody please explain what ''double activated'' means!
It means a given function is being used twice in the upper functions. For example, I believe Shane is Play(Te + Se) and Blast(Te + Ni). Her Te is double activated because both of her top two animals rely on Te
@@snolock1540 Shanon is blast last. PCS/B. They talk about it in blast last video. I get that double activated means double saviours animals? Or saviour and masculine?
I'm an ENFP that's all I know