The Cadets Are Done
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- Опубліковано 2 кві 2024
- After 90 Years, the Home Team is Done. I talk about my journey, what the Cadets mean to me, and why it's important to keep the legacy alive in all we do. FHNSAB! Here We Grow!
#Cadets #DCI #MarchingMusic
I was a Cadets drum major in 2023 and was going to be in 2024. That organization gave me more life skills and unforgettable experiences than anything I could have ever imagined. I gained interest from my band director who marched platinum in 2015, Jamie. It was the hardest thing I had ever done, and still I wouldn't change that for the world. I was lucky enough to get the head drum major spot at SCV, and I am forever grateful for the home they provided during such a sad time. But Cadets will always be the home team in my heart, FHNSAB.
Jamie and I go back to 2014! Love that guy! Crazy how experiences we shared then have influenced so many others now getting their own journey! FHNSAB!
I marched in 89, Les Mis. It was my dream to march Garfield when I saw them in a videotape back in 1987. I was blessed to get in at 89. The values and work ethic stuck with me even until this day. Forever thankful and grateful to march. If I hit the lottery, I would easily do whatever it takes to resolve this matter and get them back on the field. The experience they provide is the development of extraordinary young adults.
That was the first year I saw a show live and I saw Cadets in metro Atlanta. I wasn’t familiar with Les Miz back then as a high school kid, but having come to love the music of that show and the story, I’ve gone back and watched 89 Cadets multiple times and really appreciate that show more now than back then.
I marched along with you in 1989; I was in the Bluecoats. Our tour had us following CBC quite a lot that year, and I just loved the Les Mis show. I took as much of it in as I could on tour, and I didn't even know the musical at that time. Now, it's my favorite musical that I've seen probably 6+ times. We all felt bad when the Cadets had to sit out the show in Columbus because a huge bunch of the corps got food poisoning. When I first saw On the Waterfront in 1986, I was a big fan and it really pulled me in to drum corps. This is such a sad loss. I'll grieve even the little things, like the Cadets being the first straight-leg marchers, the right foot step-off, and their hallmark "horns down".
THAT was a fantastic show!
@FoCoBuzz yes I appreciate the show now more too. Les Mis, the Broadway show, has great songs and there were a lot of songs that we learned that did not make it in the show. I think we needed an extra week to clean the show a little more but otherwise an excellent experience.
What I've read of the lawsuit, if the Corps used ANY name used by Holy Name Cadets to the current name, they can be sued. The best bet is either rename it clean, or get the rights of a defunct corps name. Ensure nothing can be conceived or construed to be a rebirth of Holy Name Cadets to The Cadets. Just helping spend your lottery winnings😏
Sorry...long personal post ahead!
I went to UMass the fall of 88 with the sole intention of marching in the Garfield Cadets snare line. I was in the Spahhhhtans in 88 and saw that beautiful production mature all summer and fell in love with the corps. One day I slide into Thom Hannum's office at 1988 UMass band camp to ask about auditions for Garfield, and said, "I left Garfield." My heart sunk! Here I am at UMass as a MusEd major, and the reason I came was to learn from Thom and make Garfield. I figure, I can learn from Thom at school...how to become a better player (and more importantly as a person), and I can audition for the Cadets of Booger County, or whatever whcky name they chose.
I went to war with myself, and created daily habits...I learned how to LEARN. How to shut my mouth. How to LISTEN to Thom Hannum. I learned to grow up.
I went to the first ever "Cadets of Bergen County" camp at Teterboro VoTec. What a dump that "facility" was. But it was sacred ground to me. The rehearsal spot where so many of the great shows of the 80s were birthed! I was thankful to be there amongst the Gods!
I go get a drum off the truck, which was still painted "Garfield Cadets" on it! I go in, and am introduced to the new caption head, the young snare tech from the last 3 seasons. Some young guy barely older than me, and he was going to run the Garfield Cadets percussion section? This guy would go on to become my teacher, my mentor, my trusted second father, and after I aged out a dear colleague and a close friend! I met Tom Aungst. A fiery tall skinny 26 year old guy with a mustache who would change my trajectory, as well as the lives of so many others under his guidance and leadership. I owe that man more than I can repay. Anyone who ever was in the Cadets since 1985 as a student of his knows exactly what I am talking about.
After 3 camps , I was officially in the line. I worked my tail off that summer. 5 vets in the snare line, and 3 of them marched 87! Add in two crazy Canadians, and me, and that was the gumbo! Those guys were ferocious and NEVER let up. They always pushed each other to be better, and Willy Higgins as the section leader in his ageout year was a gift. He is the frigging MAN. One of the best snare techs walking today, and he taught 90 to 98. A legend!
Becoming a Cadet, I learned what it was to be drawn into a team, find gears in me I didn't know I had. I learned to TRUST from one of the truly greatest teachers to ever play the game. Tom Aungst kicked our asses like we owed him money. No joke. But we had FUN doing it! We loved the work, we loved Tom for showing us the relentless pursuit of perfection and how to achieve it. We BELIEVED. That summer changed me. Being a Cadet altered my course forever, and all for the better. I love the corps, my time there, and the people I was with!
As far as how it ended? Whew. I am sad for the young people who will never know what it is like to put on that Superman suit, that beautiful maroon and gold West Point uniform. I am glad the stench is over. I wish it was simply a financial budgetary situation, but.....all things are born, live and die. Sometimes quietly, sometimes messily.
I spent the summers of 89, 90 and 91 in the Cadets drum line, and the lessons I've learned, habits I've created, and the friends made along the journey have made the ride so very worth it.
For Holy Name Shall Always Be! WE carry the banner now. All the alumni. It's us. Let's cherish what we had, what we did, and how we can help encourage kids to march somewhere....anywhere where they can become truly better young adults!
I thoroughly enjoyed your story. Thanks for sharing.
I marched Cadets 90-94. I am blessed to have been a part of an organization that has been such an integral part of my musical development & career as a professional musician. I am saddened by the ending of a very prestigious corps. Heartbreaking really doesn’t seem like a sufficient sentiment. FHNSAB…
Any chance you knew Trey Harris? He was my high school band director!
Sounds familiar. What section?
@@pmillergroove1 Trumpets, then Mello (‘91 and ‘92)
I marched Cavaliers 01-04, but always respected the hell out of the Cadets. It's saddening to see such a powerhouse in the activity end. Even though I didn't march Cadets, it still feels like losing a family member. My heartfelt condolences to you and the many generations of Cadets alumni.
Thank you 💛♥️🤍
2015 Blue Devil here and I am sorry that this has happened to a premier Corps. I will miss Cadets and C2 for all of their hard work and beautiful shows. Also like to mention that 2005 Cadets is the very first DCI show I saw in that activity and inspired me to join Drum Corps. I salute all who made history with The Cadets. o7
Thank you ♥️💛🤍
Marched phantom in 95. We were ranked around 5th all season, so we usually had just enough time to put horns away to go in and watch the last show or two, which was usually Cadets or Cavaliers. Both amazing shows in unique styles and were a pleasure to watch, if not causing a bit of jealous anger.
Phantom 95 is one of my all time favorite shows. Much respect!
I haven’t watched your videos in years this news brought me directly back to you
Thought of you immediately when I heard the news...nice to hear your perspective on this.
Hey Rocky, I marched one year before ya in 2012, heard a lot of stories of ya (all good of course and love the vlogs). Truly hits hard about the organization but like you said I/we are better for it for having marched there and it is why we give the extra percent in our daily lives, I was taught to do that! Thanks Rocky! #goldensection #fnnsab
I’m marched Cadets ‘82 and I am heartbroken. Just like that… it’s gone. We have memories, but the corps we called ours is gone!! I feel very mixed. I’m angry that Cadets management allowed this known abuse to go on!! They shamed the ‘ Holy Name’
I was in Troopers in 82 and in the stands in 83 to see that first DCI victory. I am so sorry for you and other alums.
These lawsuits are pretty questionable given the fact that the current management had nothing to do with any of this abuse.
@@tobiassmith1556totally agree
My friend, every corps is one phone call, or one email away from "it's over." I marched phantom regiment for 4 years during the golden era and frankly I am astounded that we are still on the field. I will miss Garfield like none other.
Since you marched Garfield in 82, you know who was sexually assaulted, and the sketchy adult/s who are involved that ruined the Corps.
Beautifully done here. Thank you for capturing the sentiments felt by many of us cadet members. And to what the experience meant for me personally i will say that the friends i made thru the activity and the fact that it allowed me to meet my wife. FHNSAB
Our son played mello with the Cadets the past 3 years. He received contract to play with them again until the bottom fell out. Thankfully, he was welcomed to play with the Boston Crusaders this year. He came home from spring training saying that it was good and he was looking forward to playing again this summer.
Boston has so many old Cadet brass staff from back in my days (‘13-‘15) that it will feel nice to be there! Glad he got contracted there!!!
I marched mellophone in Cadets 93 & 94. Today I am a Texas Country music artist. I was a high school band director in 1999-2001. A trainer at USAA FSB 2001-2008. A country artist 2010-present. FHNSAB 🤘 I hope an alumni corps is made.
My highschool band program gave me an experience very similar to the one you speak to in this video, and was what encouraged me to march drum core. I have marched two years but didn’t feel i found the home i had found with my highschool program. Going into my third year i’m optimistic about what my experience will be like and hope that at the end of the summer i will be able to come back and affirm to everyone that I found a place that feels like home. That way others who are looking have a place to go.
oh man, when you said "Always a Cadet," I felt that. I said it to myself this very morning. I often say it to myself. Good lessons then. Good lessons now. Good lessons always.
You first introduced me to Drum Corps International and the marching arts as a whole. Every time the Cadets were a topic for discussion, you were the most eager to talk about them and it always hyped me up. It's terrible to see the Cadets fall from grace so hard, especially with my desire to march with the team this year. I, as well as many others, will never be able to experience your ups and downs in the Cadets or experience your highlights quite like you did.
It BREAKS MY HEART, as a phantom regiment alum, that Garfield is gone. My personal favorite corps outside of regiment, and it BREAKS MY HEART. My God what a corps of incredible people. I will miss this drum corps beyond words. SUTA CADETS
Much appreciation to You for Sharing Your Story 💙
I never got the chance to march with the Cadets. They were my favorite corps during my time from high school band, college band, and the military. I fell in love with them after seeing them in a contest back in '82 when they won their first world championship. I'll never forget the Appalachian Spring, West Side Story, or the Candide shows where they were the first corps to three-peat!!! 42 years and 10 world championships later and they're still my favorites!! Not seeing them anymore cuts like a knife and as the gentleman said, it will feel like the death of a loveone. We will miss you, Cadets...#ForHolyNameWillAlwaysBe 😢😢😢
Yeah to Mellophones! I was in the golden section 1987 to 1990, very proud to have had that experience & still have many great friends from those years. Hi Deangelo 🤗
I marched 88, 89, 90. I can't really enjoy current DCI. The uniforms are replaced with body suits. There is so much body movement. I watch old drum corps and love it still. I LOVE the uniforms, LOVE the traditional drill with moderate body work. Being a Cadet is hands down the best experience of my life. I truly don't know if I could have got that anywhere else. In our hearts Holy Name will ALWAYS be.
Watching the Phantom Regiment practice during the summer of ‘78, inspired me to learn how to play the snare drum so that I could march in a drum corps…when The Hawthorn Muchachos needed marching personnel to keep them in business in order to field a corps, my brothers and joined…unfortunately, it wasn’t enough, but thankfully The Cadets were recruiting to field a corps for the ‘79 season…It was a dream come true…I stayed on until after the ‘84 season to serve my country in the US military…the Cadets taught me a lot about teamwork, effort, attitude, and perseverance…lessons that still are in use today…sometimes I wondered if they were competing in 2024, would they have finished the season as world champions once again?? -FHNSAB ✌️🎤🥁
I have another story. One year we were rehearsing in Kansas. All day I heard this tinny noise in my ear like a radio was playing drum corps music. It was 100% humidity that day obviously. It had to be another corps. That night at the show I talked my cohorts in the cadets. They said they heard the same thing… a barely audible hornline and drum line …. So we talked about where we were rehearsing that day. We were 7 miles apart.
When I heard ‘82 I was in love. 83 was just as good and a bunch of us from Dutch Boy in Kitchener Ont. went down to march in 84. I was 16 and learned most of the show in camp. Sadly my parents didn’t support me and I couldn’t march that summer. I love that 84 show and am disappointed I didn’t get to do it. In ‘85 I was determined and went back and managed to march the season.
It was the hardest thing I ever did. I was skilled enough to be a good cadet but I had a lot to learn about work ethic. I was far from the perfect Garfield Cadet, but I pushed through and made it to the other side.
I learned what hard work, perseverance, and excellence was all about. I learned I could achieve anything I put my mind to.
Thank you Garfield. One of the proudest moments of my life, 40 years later. ❤
I am a huge fan of the Cadets , I am a drum line guy. The 2013 Cadets drumlin was absolutely insane I also loved 2005 what a great show that was 😊
Hard to believe everything that happened and lead up to this point. What a shame and an incredibly unfortunate situation for the members and fans.
I marched in a competing corps in the 90s… we both beat you and lost to you time and time again. I had many frens that marched Garfield. We had friendly parties with you guys. Always good fun and lots of free food and drinks provided by the cadets. Music and dancing. I loved you guys. 1st time I heard you guys playing Copeland at drums along the Rockies I wept. That stadium doesn’t even exist anymore. Your shows will always be in my playlists. Much love from the West Coast
I marched a different corps for 6 years back in the '90s. Cadets folding hurts more than when my corps folded. This is unthinkable.
I marched Cadets 1984-1988. I was just 15 years old in my first year, and being a Cadet totally shaped me into the adult I am today. It saddens me to know that no other young people will learn and benefit from the Cadet way. With the corps folding, it is like a death in the family, and all the little details of my life on tour and the people I marched with 40 years ago come flooding back to me. I am so grateful to have had that experience, but knowing I will never again see the maroon and gold Cadets taking the field again is like a gut punch.
I’m so sorry to hear this. FHNSAB
It's presently hard to listen to Cadets shows that I love, cause now when I do I just get sad. I hope that passes.
I’m so sorry that this has happened! I am a fan! I was apart of the Star of Indiana from 89 - 92 and graduated in 90. And now I am a retired Band Director in Kentucky. But from about 1995 is when I started being a fan of The Cadets! And have watched, and even taken some shows and putting them on for high school! The five, that I did use took us beyond! After my 5th state championship with the band, I was diagnosed with lung disease and had to give it up. Y’all know!! It’s hot on the pavement!! I just wonder how much are the cadets needing to get out of their situation? We has a community could raise enough money and restart The Cadets! Nothing is impossible, you just have to believe!
The lawsuit aims to attack any future iteration of “The Cadets.” It will need to be something completely new eventually! I have a feeling it will be awhile, if ever!
I am so sorry to hear this! When it was announced they were not going to come out for 2024, I said I hope not this is the end. Unfortunately the end has come.
I just heard about this today - totally missed the news. I’ve a huge BD fan and have not liked all Cadets shows but they did have some of the most iconic moments and shows in DCI history and I did like many and loved some. The first year I ever watched on PBS was 1987 and their Appalachian Spring show was fantastic.
As DCI morphs over the last decade into something unrecognizable from its roots, losing the Cadets is another brick crumbing from the wall of DCI’s heritage. They were one of the main, classic, “big corps” basically the entire three and a half decades I’ve followed DCI and this is just a shocking and heartbreaking development.
Of the top corps for so long, really only BD is a regular contender anymore. It’s just not the same competing with Crown and Bluecoats - with each group doing wacky field theater and having largely eschewed their classic looks and identities - as it was competing with Cadets, Cavies, SCV, and Phantom for the championship, all with shows you instantly remember from the era when drum corps was drum corps.
Only marched in 2021 as a rook-out. Was originally interested in Crown, due to playing arrangements of their 2013 show my freshman year in high school a year later. Had the audition stuff for Crown 2020 in my grasp until the virus hit. Became a fan of DCI in 2015 watching 88 and 95 scouts( I KNOW! I KNOW!). Oddly enough, I never truly liked the 2019 Cadets show. But one day in January of 2021, saw an ad that said audition for Cadets for $21. I thought to myself, why not? I told my then Assistant band director at Virginia State University, who believe it or not, talked with the last brass caption manager, Doc Stratton, wanted to have HBCU band members march DCI along with other managers from different corps! Long story short, I take all 3 audition rounds with a quickness and signed my contract to march with the corps (NO JOKE) on April Fool’s Day. Before that span of events, I was actually emotional because I wanted to get myself healthier to keep myself from worse conditions, and the corps was the last push I needed. When I got to May camp, I realized that I never truly held a contra tuba before, being used to sousaphone and such. It was a struggle at first, but I got stronger each day. Throughout my time there, I developed friendships and connections with different members and found out that 4 of us were members of HBCUs, so it was pretty cool to bond with people that go through similar things at their campuses. It was a tough yet rewarding 2 months, but it all came to a culminating end when finals day happened. There was a saying that Doc said that resonated with us, "Do your job." I knew I was going to cry, but it wasn't worth it to waste the tears in the early part of the day, but after finishing the last performance, Doc told us that phrase, and something in me released the tears in that parking lot. I flat out ugly cried, but it was worth it, because The Cadets changed my life. Fast forward to this past season, and I was introduced as low brass intern turned tuba tech. 2nd best summer of my life. All that I'm trying to say with this long of a comment, is that I probably would not be in the position that I'm currently in-getting a master's degree-had it not been for The Cadets.
I marched with the Troopers in 1998. The Cadets won DCI finals that year with their show Stonehenge. I marched mellophone and our brass caption head had marched with the Glassmen and aged out with the Cadets.
Something you hear from anyone that's marched corps is it was one of the hardest things of our lives.
1983 member. So sad - FHNSAB
The Cadets and the Bluecoats were my heroes in high school, I was never able to match because of money but I’ve always been a fan. It’s devastating knowing what was going on. All I’ve gotta say is fuck GH. The culture of silence and abuse he supported and grew is the reason the Cadets are dead now. This is the end of an era for DCI, and hopefully the beginning of a new one. But for the vets, GH is not the Cadets, no matter how hard he tried to be. You are the Cadets, and just like with the 27th Lancers, the Bridgemen, Star of Indiana, and VK, your success will never die.
This is sad indeed. I still can't believe it happened. Now, I'm trying to come to grips with it. This will take a while to get used to, but I'm hoping that something good will come out it. Maybe they can reorganize. That might be wishful thinking, but maybe it could happen and I've never marched in a drum corps.
It would likely be a new name, a new corps, and would take years to get back into world class. But I am also one to think anything is possible! We wait and see!
Marched 04,05,06. Very sad to hear this news. Doesn’t seem possible. It’s hard not to be mad at Hop - it seems he kinda sunk the ship. I’m sure he knows.
Shout out to Tom for all the lessons, the beats and good time.
This is sad. I marched against them as Holy Name and of course as Garfield. I was in Miami when they wore shorts and polo shirts at the Nationals. I think that we (St. Pats) were only able to beat them once. An historic legacy gone. Perhaps,after some time,they can resurrect and be the powerhouse that they’ve always shown to be.
Garfield Cadets 1984 - Westside Story show was why I joined Drum Corp. And marching band in high school. I'm sad...
I marched in Garfield during the keystone resurrection year of 1980. Could you do a vlog on the reasons for the bankruptcy or the lawsuit(s)? Apologies if you already have.
Never marched with The [Garfield] Cadets. That is the name I will always use in referring to that formerly great corps, dating back to my youth in New Jersey. It has now gone the way of the Blessed Sacrament Golden Knights, St. Lucy's Cadets, et al.
the Cadets got me into DCI in 2000. them and Cavaliers. i absolutely lost it. I loved them then and wanted to march there in 2004 because we was associated with YEA when i was with Crossmen. and their show was better. but either way this news hurts
The history of the Cadets stands strong in front of any of the accusations. There are no winners in the case as we all lost out. Cadets in all thier names gave us amazing shows, cutting edge, and pushed the boundaries for many to be part of the greatness that is Cadets.
It’s sad. And it’s crazy some women can just make up accusations and it will ruin the reputation of the man and anything he’s associated with.
@@drummersnare6276easy there, dude.... You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Chill with the disinformation
@@MikeStetina Yes I do. It’s very common for women to falsely accuse men for rape and sexual assault.
Every corps this year needs to do the Pull Z. or put a logo on the field this year. Cadets (Garfield) changed my life musical life in 1984. very sad times in DCI
My favorite memory on tour is the pit screaming "fuck you rocky" every time you tried to give bus announcements.
Out of love. I believe I replied “Love you too.”
Lol
It's a shame but that had to be one NASTY lawsuit that the Cadets couldn't do anything to save itself. I'm sure everyone has heard rumors but let this be a lesson for other Corps to keep the Cupboards Clean so this stuff doesn't bite another Corps!!
Do you think another corps will be created in the area?
Doubtful it would happen any time soon. Fielding a Corps takes lots of money and YEARS to get back to World Class. DCI Has a process now!
I can’t “like” this video because it seems disrespectful to the situation. While I’ve not always been happy with the direction their leadership has pushed DCI, (IMO artificially redefining the activity by eliminating boundaries that set it apart), I would never in a million years wish this on the organization. Especially the alumni who worked so hard to maintain the tradition. The best uniforms on the planet (back when they still held to that tradition) and a dedication to excellence that spans generations.
As an alumnus of 3 years myself, I would never ever have wished this on my home team, The Cadets. With the news that they would never field a corps again, I wanted to share my journey getting into the Cadets AND the major positive impact the organization had on my life. At a funeral, one often shares fun and impactful stories or memories of the one that passed; I was simply doing the same for the organization that shaped my life!
how long did it take to charge your car?
Not long. Maybe 10-15 min.
@@Rocdar12 agreed i gotta break it down
My only connection to the Cadets is all our marching instructors in high school marched with the Cadets. We ended up getting first place at the high school marching competition finals. I would wear my Blue Devils shirt, that I bought at DCI, to practice all the time.😂
I know that must’ve gotten under their skin 😂
Who will replace them?
No one anytime soon.
the algo is odd, I'm not really attached to any of this, beyond being casually friendly with someone in this story broadly and yet it figured out the connection without me giving it any real input.. it's getting spooky
I hate to say this, and I’ll probably take some flack, but it seems this didn’t have to happen this way. Suing the corps into extinction isn’t going to help anyone, and it’s going to hurt thousands of past and future members who no longer have a legacy. The Cadets are gone. One guy committed a crime, thousands of us are paying for it. It’s not right.
May the victims see justice.
You’re part of the last Cadets Brass caption winners ever!😢
WOW! That hits super hard! We lucky few!
I just did some reflection; 2015 Cadets were the last Cadet Corps to ever…
- Be in first place above all Corps at any point in the season.
- Win any caption award at Champs
- Win the Jim Ott (good info from you)
- March Jeff Sacktig Drill
- Wear the Traditional Maroon & Gold Competitively
We were so fortunate! We lucky few!
@@Rocdar12 that’s right, you guys went black mid-season.
It was a crazy time!!!
@@Rocdar12 Did you cover on the vlog the reveal and reaction to going black?
One upside: not seeing a drum corps step off on the wrong foot anymore.
Made us pedidextrous 👣.
Bravo. Another band down
So,,,,,I have heard this story about the Cadets folding, and a very general description of the reason, but something this devastating to so many should (I think) be told in a bit greater detail. This is what is missing in this story. A bit more specific details would be appreciated.
It’s a whole mess… but here’s a Reddit post - www.reddit.com/r/drumcorps/s/EwlO1LzrL8
omg... this is the first vid of yours I've seen, and several minutes in, I recognized your opening jingle. nice.
20th Century history is littered with corps that folded for one reason or another. Almost always financial. There are thousands of former drum corps people who’s drum corps Alma mater no longer exists. The Cadets are just the latest.
RIP:
Cadets
Bridgemen
27th Lancers
Northstar and the corps that merged to create them
Guardsmen
Dutch Boy
Glassmen
Freelancers
Kingsmen
Velvet Knights
Lynwood Diplomats
Stockton Commodores
San Francisco Conquistadors
Sky Ryders
Florida Vanguard
Florida Wave
and on and on and on……
I marched 2 years with the Hawthorne Muchachos sadly folded in 78...& .marched 1979 aging out with the Garfield Cadets-originallyt were known as the Holy Name Cadets founded in 1939. This will be the 3rd Iconic NJ Dum Corp loss. The Anthem song we sang before every show ended In....Holy Name shall always be...Now in our Hearts
One of the last vids of our beloved Cadets:
ua-cam.com/video/7XDNS9OM1_4/v-deo.html
Can’t they just create a new cadets 501(c)(3) organization and just transfer the existing donors to new org?
Unfortunately not. That’s what they tried to do here. CAE was the new organization. YEA was the old. The lawsuit is designed to go after anything that sounds like or is a new iteration of the Cadets. It will never end. That’s why the Cadets ended.
If a line can be drawn to the cadets organization in anyway, the new org will be pulled into the lawsuit. So any new corps is a new corps. Certainly a new corps could be fielded that honors the Cadets style, but it won’t be the Cadets.
In regards to GH, don't F where you eat. Plenty of hotties throughout dci all those years.
World Championship Contrabase 1984 player - WestSide Story. This is very disappointing. AI industry business has been very lucrative for me. How much do they need to be saved.? I will not allow them to fold like this. But I will clean house, so they can get back into the Top 3 Drum Corps in the world.
I imagine they need a ton of money to pay lawyers to even fight the case. And even if they win, it could be appealed and keep going on and on. Lots of money.
@@Rocdar12 Anyone have any ideas how we can keep the Holy Name alive and push the reset button.? Its obvious they have terrible attorneys and no one else is coming to rescue them. My associates and I can donate 8-figures in BTC. But I am not allowing this mismanaged bunch of crooks and thieves take it and squander it.
DCI as a business model is not ideal for inflation, fuel cost, insurance the ridiculous fee for members more will follow chap 11
SCV found a way to pull out of the mess cost now from 90s era the extended staff of spot medicine and professional entertainment engineers (which should be members) staff from Vegas shows like Cirque made this activity expensive and most college offer similar experience
I agree that the business model and touring model has to change to keep this activity alive, but I don’t think you can compare DCI to college marching bands. The experiences are completely different and each is unique.
This is all starting to look like a Matrix reset event, to erase the existence of what we all knew and loved. I am shocked its happening during my lifetime. There are a whole host of major events and occasions that have been erased from the history books, I was involved in and participated in. Wow!! Get ready for the 4th and 5th Dimension. LOL!!!
I'm guessing this opens the flood gates of accusations and a snowball effect threw out the activity. We shall see.
help why do u look so angry-
none of this makes sense. . . . . I smell something very rotten.
fhnsAb. Thank you Rocky.
Sorry didn't get to see any warmup in Atlanta btw lol
This is going to be against a lot of peoples beliefs, but let me open up something.
I’m march drum Corps (I will not reveal which) and I can tell you that it is a sad state that so many people have great experiences, but yet this entire organization is founded on abuses.
Yes, the organizations have changed, but I think DCI itself needs to either revamp or fold into a new organization that holds higher standards for corps and instructors.
In a way this is sad, but maybe inevitable for the organization of DCI as a whole
I wish someone would just donate many millions of dollars to settle the lawsuit and pay restitution to the victims, instead of this.
Ton of bricks indeed, man. #FHNSAB