NACAR’s end began with restrictor plates…and lets not kid ourselves…it was not about safety…it was about slowing down the ford with the longer stroke engines that breathed more deeply and created way more horsepower than GM on the super speed ways….The France family had to protect their Chevrolet/GM investments
@@DdDd-js5gt Yep. The Cleveland engine was and is the most powerful small block pushrod engine ever produced. When Bill Elliott started using the head technology from Bob Glidden's Pro Stock cars, he was untouchable. Today's nascar cars look like the lovechild of a Prius and Hyundai. They all look the same, have no character and the whole thing is about as much fun as watching paint dry.
The Talladega is sweet, now if we can just build a 1970 King Cobra with the pointy nose to actually see if that would have worked out. Love what your doing keep up the good work
I’m 66 and born and raised in Detroit. As a kid, my favorite nascar car was that Torino Talladega. It used to beat the Plymouth’s and Dodge’s. One of my uncles had a non modded ’68 Torino fastback. It was cool.
Seeing the dirt still on his helmet was cool! Reminded me of a Darrell Lanigan interview on pit road at Atlanta Motor Speedway in an ARCA car after having raced at Dixie Speedway dirt track the night before.
My 72 Gran Torino 351-CJ i had the speedo buried & the pedal not yet to the floor, 750 O-3310 Holley with 3.35 rear gears & C6 trans. Miss that car it also had A/C PS PB.
My friend here in Idaho has a 71 Torino Cobra he bought new when he got out of the Navy. He ran it at Bonneville for a few years at close to 200mph but his engine builder kept selling him grenades. The car is still in race trim & I'd like to build him a good engine but I'm up to my eyeballs with my own Bonneville streamliner. Anybody interested in joining him?
I don't know much about race cars but I think if you put a fast changing gearbox I think it will help mitigate the handling issues. The loss of traction between gear changes seems to the issue, that's my point of view. I could be wrong
Don't they already have roof rails? It looks like there is something there around 10:10. Roof rails are often a requirement in landspeed racing, depending on what speed you are running and whether you're racing under SCTA, ECTA or some other rule book.
This rendition of the original Talladega isn't quite right...that droop-snoot front end wouldn't pass tech back in 1969. Aerodynamics of the front grille area is one of many concerns, but not all...a pointy nose like the King-cobra & Superbird really needs a tapering "closure" at the rear end of the car too. The shapes up front need to be more concerned about killing "lift" & evacuating air underneath, more so than simple slippery shapes. The Original Talladega never had the bottom edge of the bumper a mere 5-6 inches off the road.
@@davidthayer6969 If you look at other videos of this particular car, that front bumper is almost on the ground, maybe 2 1/2 inches & the shape of the taper is all different....the rulebook for NASCAR in 1969 is difficult to come by and 90 pages worth.
@@davidthayer6969 If you freeze-frame at 0:47 , note the centerline of the headlights in the front grille...this centerline matches up with the front axle....the bodywork on the front clip has a crease that "disappears" in this version, the factory crease in that fender originally extended just shy of the centerline of the grille. By these "landmarks" on the body of the front-end, I would estimate this version has been reworked to "droop" an additional six to eight inches beyond he factory dimensions. First time one sees that frontend it becomes obvious just how exaggerated it is...not at all how it was originally.
@@AndieBlack13 If I understand what these guys were trying to do with these cars (from watching the Donnie Allison video), these Talledegas are more of a modern interpretation of what these cars would like like, not a pure reproduction of a 69 Talledega. You missed their point evidently.
Had 2 Ford's back in the day 1st one was a'72 Thunderbid 429 Thunderjet which would Murder the Others in the Middle '70's. the 72 302 Torino Ranger would Clown the 5.0 Mustangs in the Early 90's!! Gas Mileage? LOL!!
There are a lot of different classes in landspeed racing and for each class of body type, there are usually classes for blown and unblown engines of different sizes and for gasoline and unlimited fuels. You're racing against the cars in your class.
I hate to add this to such an amazing video but the mechanic in the black and yellow shirt really needs to give the people he’s talking to a little more distance. When he makes points, he’s almost kissing the guy. He stands so close that if it were a female, I’d assume she’s coming on to me.
What's amazing to me is that it took all that work just to get to 225 mph when stock police SUVs can do 156 with full catalytic converters meeting all emissions and be stable even in a full speed sideways slide. It seems like all someone with a cop SUV would have to do is free up the exhaust and dial the boost up to about 35 lbs, and add some gearing for an easy 215 mph plus.
@@wellby5000 My bad, I was a little bit off. The current Ford Explorer police interceptor had a top speed of only 148. There was an earlier version with a top speed of 156. I think it's because the new one only has a V6.
@@RacingRon47 mkay. 429 vs hemi straight up. Put both in identicL cars with identical driveline. Hemi wins. Put the same engine ina roadrunner and your blue oval turd. Mopar still wins. So
I guarantee you if you put cars like that in front of people and ran them for a season at today's nascar tracks you would see the stands full again.
NACAR’s end began with restrictor plates…and lets not kid ourselves…it was not about safety…it was about slowing down the ford with the longer stroke engines that breathed more deeply and created way more horsepower than GM on the super speed ways….The France family had to protect their Chevrolet/GM investments
@@DdDd-js5gt Yep. The Cleveland engine was and is the most powerful small block pushrod engine ever produced. When Bill Elliott started using the head technology from Bob Glidden's Pro Stock cars, he was untouchable. Today's nascar cars look like the lovechild of a Prius and Hyundai. They all look the same, have no character and the whole thing is about as much fun as watching paint dry.
And please note that the body is almost stock, not some decaled fiberglass made to “look” like a Ford!
@@stevenlewis6781 Windsor was the small block the cleavland was big block
100%
My Dad bought one in 1969 Torino Talladega his brother had 69 GTO judge and one of their cousins had the GTX 440. What a time to be alive.
we agree !
Brings back so many memories of watching these cars at Talladega or Daytona back in the day.
Yes Mike, many people have said the same thing
The Talladega is sweet, now if we can just build a 1970 King Cobra with the pointy nose to actually see if that would have worked out. Love what your doing keep up the good work
Thank you, John. Who knows what we’ll build next. 😁
“I need it!!”
You need more than that buddy.
Ya f’in freak!
Thank you very much
That White Torino behind him as he’s sitting there talking is giving me Wood.
you and me both brother....
The Torino n Talladega that u guys built are absolutely amazing!!!!!
Thank you, glad you like them, Wade.
I’m 66 and born and raised in Detroit. As a kid, my favorite nascar car was that Torino Talladega. It used to beat the Plymouth’s and Dodge’s. One of my uncles had a non modded ’68 Torino fastback. It was cool.
Love watching this thing run!
I would love to see a racing series with these cars
Ur so right
Progress is being made and it looks like they are also having fun along the way. Nice job.
Yes, we keep going and growing with everything we learn, and having fun
very cool
Thanks Mr. T, wait to see what we do in the future
Seeing the dirt still on his helmet was cool! Reminded me of a Darrell Lanigan interview on pit road at Atlanta Motor Speedway in an ARCA car after having raced at Dixie Speedway dirt track the night before.
Pretty sure that stuff was painted on there. Made to look old and worn
correct :)
My 72 Gran Torino 351-CJ i had the speedo buried & the pedal not yet to the floor, 750 O-3310 Holley with 3.35 rear gears & C6 trans. Miss that car it also had A/C PS PB.
My friend here in Idaho has a 71 Torino Cobra he bought new when he got out of the Navy. He ran it at Bonneville for a few years at close to 200mph but his engine builder kept selling him grenades. The car is still in race trim & I'd like to build him a good engine but I'm up to my eyeballs with my own Bonneville streamliner. Anybody interested in joining him?
I wish nuthin but good luck sir.
Awesome work getting it to 225
At 8:49 who is the guy in the background wearing the Buick Motorsports jacket looking the back of the car? And he's wearing a "71" t-shirt too.
I don't know much about race cars but I think if you put a fast changing gearbox I think it will help mitigate the handling issues. The loss of traction between gear changes seems to the issue, that's my point of view. I could be wrong
Man oh man good stuff!
Thanks for letting us see.
Thanks for tuning us in
Have y'all thought about taking it to Talladega and hit that 200 mark,that would be cool
we have !
Beautiful !
My audio was messed up. What was the horsepower and torque of the engine? Specs? Trans? Is there an instagram or UA-cam for this car only? Thanks
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Did they try adding a spoiler and some roof rails to keep the car straight?
Also at those speeds you should at least have some aero safety’s built in.
Don't they already have roof rails? It looks like there is something there around 10:10. Roof rails are often a requirement in landspeed racing, depending on what speed you are running and whether you're racing under SCTA, ECTA or some other rule book.
I wish somebody would take a talladega in NASCAR legal trim and see what it would do.
That would be kind of cool, for sure.
This rendition of the original Talladega isn't quite right...that droop-snoot front end wouldn't pass tech back in 1969. Aerodynamics of the front grille area is one of many concerns, but not all...a pointy nose like the King-cobra & Superbird really needs a tapering "closure" at the rear end of the car too. The shapes up front need to be more concerned about killing "lift" & evacuating air underneath, more so than simple slippery shapes. The Original Talladega never had the bottom edge of the bumper a mere 5-6 inches off the road.
that was teh nascar rule then, 6 inches.
@@davidthayer6969 If you look at other videos of this particular car, that front bumper is almost on the ground, maybe 2 1/2 inches & the shape of the taper is all different....the rulebook for NASCAR in 1969 is difficult to come by and 90 pages worth.
@@AndieBlack13 the rule for 69 was either 5 or 6 inches.
@@davidthayer6969 If you freeze-frame at 0:47 , note the centerline of the headlights in the front grille...this centerline matches up with the front axle....the bodywork on the front clip has a crease that "disappears" in this version, the factory crease in that fender originally extended just shy of the centerline of the grille. By these "landmarks" on the body of the front-end, I would estimate this version has been reworked to "droop" an additional six to eight inches beyond he factory dimensions. First time one sees that frontend it becomes obvious just how exaggerated it is...not at all how it was originally.
@@AndieBlack13 If I understand what these guys were trying to do with these cars (from watching the Donnie Allison video), these Talledegas are more of a modern interpretation of what these cars would like like, not a pure reproduction of a 69 Talledega. You missed their point evidently.
Listening to that think at 9k could turn a gay man straight. Fuck that sounds good.
Had 2 Ford's back in the day 1st one was a'72 Thunderbid 429 Thunderjet which would Murder the Others in the Middle '70's. the 72 302 Torino Ranger would Clown the 5.0 Mustangs in the Early 90's!! Gas Mileage? LOL!!
if I remember right was the Mercury Cyclone Spoiler the more dominant race car.
It went back and forth between the two Ford makes.
you do not remember right, the Talladega won 29 races compared to the mercurys 8.
@@davidthayer6969 David Pearson in a Mercury was more dominant. He just did not run every race!
@@yankeetraveler1118 pearson never drove the Cyclone Spoiler II, he drove a Talladega Torino......Pearson went to the Wood bros mercury in 72.
why would u take a NA motor to that race ? like the " street " cars are going to have double the Wheel HP as your nascar power plant
There are a lot of different classes in landspeed racing and for each class of body type, there are usually classes for blown and unblown engines of different sizes and for gasoline and unlimited fuels. You're racing against the cars in your class.
How would a Godzilla do?
How come dyno rooms are not all equipped with big blowers to air cool the headers like they would be while driving.
Really don't feel air is going to cool those baby's off. Might just make the room a bit toasty warm. Not really hurting anything either.
Been alot cooler with a boss 429
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At 225mph wgaf?
Agreed, but I think it was a shame that we didn’t see the cammer. Was there…. F nascar.
"Alot" is not a word
Think you were looking for "a lot"
@@DIARRHEA-PANIC nope it’s now a word . If Biden is president alot.
9.13 look at the condition of that helmet and the date on it. I wouldn't trust it
it was painted to look that way, this was filmed in 2020, 2019 sticker is from tech for speedweek :)
Being from Talladega, I can say it’s pronounced Tala-uh-DEEGAH.
I hate to add this to such an amazing video but the mechanic in the black and yellow shirt really needs to give the people he’s talking to a little more distance. When he makes points, he’s almost kissing the guy. He stands so close that if it were a female, I’d assume she’s coming on to me.
What's amazing to me is that it took all that work just to get to 225 mph when stock police SUVs can do 156 with full catalytic converters meeting all emissions and be stable even in a full speed sideways slide. It seems like all someone with a cop SUV would have to do is free up the exhaust and dial the boost up to about 35 lbs, and add some gearing for an easy 215 mph plus.
What police suv does 156mph? There is a huge HP diffrence between 156 and 225 mph cars also
@@wellby5000 My bad, I was a little bit off. The current Ford Explorer police interceptor had a top speed of only 148. There was an earlier version with a top speed of 156.
I think it's because the new one only has a V6.
Aerodynamics…….. SUV IS A BRICK.
Where is this? Obviously a runway.
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Period correct engine is the only way to truly honor the car
We understand where you’re coming from, but for what we are looking to do we had to go modern
@@TheGarageShop200 Agreed
Yeah that talladega sucks you should probably just give it to me.
Faster than the Daytona in the long run , but forgotten to history. Sad.
we are trying to preserve that !
yawn... SUPERBIRD
The ugly super bird that had no chance against the Shotgun? Take that aero crap off and let’s see how it did. BOSS 429 is the king
@@RacingRon47 mkay. 429 vs hemi straight up. Put both in identicL cars with identical driveline. Hemi wins. Put the same engine ina roadrunner and your blue oval turd. Mopar still wins. So
Car was competitive against wing cars..Ford won 1969, Chrysler 1970. Pretty even, no yawn about either one.
Super turd you couldn't give them away back then
@@Hemi_the_BlackSheep - Yeah sure, that’s why nascar banned the original 427 and 351C. 🤣😝😆
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