What Happened to Voyager?
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2023
- The USS Voyager embarked on its epic 7 year voyage across the Delta Quadrant to arrive back at Starfleet in 2379. This video covers what happens to the starship itself after it returned, with the splistream drive USS Dauntless, the new Voyager A and Pathfinder class Voyager B later on down the timeline. Star Trek Lower Decks gave as another piece of the puzzle as did Picard, so let's put it all together.
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Makes me happy that we now finally have a pretty definitive knowledge of what happened to voyager after it returned
To be honest, my head canon was that Voyager was like the Bluesmobile at the end of "The Blues Brothers" - they reached their destination, the last crewmember stepped off and looked back, and with perfect comic timing it completely fell apart into a pile of components...
Haha! I totally had this thought too! 😂
I feel like there needed to be a huge debriefing after Voyager returned simply because of the Doctor. By all accounts, he was a sentient holographic lifeform like they have never seen. However, his rights would have also needed to be clarified similar to Data. I just imagine that there was so much red tape with everything about Voyager, it just made sense to decommission it rather than try to wait until the studies, hearings and everything else was over. I mean, Voyager was duplicated during Deadlock; that alone would have fascinated scientists.
I mean, Janeway should have faced a court marshal.
Even if she was eventually cleared, the proceedings should have taken place.
At a bare minimum she should have had to answer some pointed questions about the U.S.S. Equinox.
The debrief would probably last longer then their voyage, going on for decades. The sheer number of new civilisations, anomalies, technologies and scientific discoveries alone would take years. And that's ignoring all the time travel.
The main thing I'd be curious about with the Doctor is how he impacts Federation policy. He wasn't sentient because of an accident or interference or modification to his core program - he seems to have ALWAYS been sentient, but didn't realise it until he'd been activated for some time. Which means all of the EMH mark ones likely are too (and maybe even future EMH's). Which means the Federation would have to face up to their treatment of them and the fact they essentially enslaved them.
And I'd also like to know how the events on Mars changed that policy, considering their knee-jerk reaction to AI. Did they make exceptions for holograms? Were they put in cold storage? Were they outright purged?
I've said before that a lower decks or Prodigy style animated limited series covering the events after Voyagers return, call it Star Trek Voyager: Homecoming?
Centered around Janeways court-martial and eventual exoneration with the other characters getting their plots as well, 7 making contact with her remaining family, struggling to fit in after effectively losing Voyager as a home, Tom trying to reconcile with his father and coming to terms with being a family man, Nelix much like 7 losing the home he chose which let us not forget was a massive life changing decision for him.
There's so many stories you couldn't possibly fit them all in a single season.
@@andromidius My interpretation of the EMH is that they aren't inherently sapient, but rather that the learning capacity combined with just how long the Doctor was left perpetually running caused emergent sapience. So they aren't sapient on first activation, but instead achieve it over time.
...Still makes me worry for all those EMHs repurposed as miners since, yeah, that's straight up slavery the second a single one is sapient. (See also: Those non-humanoid drones from TNG that clearly developed sapience, and thus deserve all the rights afforded sapients, imo. Doesn't matter if they're mechanical or electronic, they're as living as Riker's transporter accident clone.)
@@KianaWolf The federation needs to update it's definition of sapient life just because someone left their high tech scanner on for too long lol
Ten years ago I binge watched the series on Netflix. I remember the glory days of having ds9, voyager, and Babylon 5 on at the same time. When I did that binge of voyager I realized that voyager was really under rated as a series. Even though the first season was a little "eh," later seasons really made some solid episodes like timeless and year of hell. Voyager made star trek return to the fun and campy roots of TOS while still having an edge to it.
It's been nice to see voyager pop up with the crew in various shows lately.
It really round its stride in season 4 when Seven of Nine joined the crew. The writers never figured out what do with Kes, but they did an incredible job with Seven. Those last three seasons are mostly super, with occasionally stinkers. (Like when they brought Kes back, just to ruin her character entirely.) I like the whole series, though.
Well if you look at it as art imitating life, the actress that played Kes pretty much ruined her own life and went more than a little bit crazy.@@ManabiLT
@@ImpendingJoker Oh I know, she ended up in my state and has made regional news for more incidents than have made national headlines. It's really sad how her life's fallen apart.
@@ManabiLTthe way the writers treated Kes really irked me. She and Nelix are supposed to be lovers, then, out of nowhere - oh yeah, they broke up. Kes has been trying to develop her psychic abilities, then in the space of two episodes, she becomes telekinetic and ascends to a being of light (?)
I guess the producers were just super keen to get Jeri Ryan in that catsuit on the show.
@@MyMarsham Agree on how they handled the breakup, but I liked the ascension thing. Since Kes had reached the age that O'campa normally die, it seemed to me that this had been suppressed by the Caretaker (probably not intentionally). That made it clear that the ones left on the planet would be fine even after the energy ran out and they were forced to the surface. The Kazon weren't going to win against a bunch of ascended O'campans.
Not sure if that was intentional or not, but it was how it came across to me.
The Intrepid class remains one of my favorite star fleet vessels. It was good to see her on screen again in Lower Decks.
It was my favorite too❤
Don't forget to add that Voyager also broke Federation records in the following areas:
Most violations of the Prime Directive
Most violations of the Temporal Prime Directive
Longest serving Ensign in a 'senior officer' position EVER.
"Longest serving Ensign in a 'senior officer' position EVER."
Now we have Uhura in SNW. An Ensign going to classified briefings with the captain lol
She is more like a lieutenant than and ensign.
As long as worf didn't get his hands on it, it probably survived in some form
Deanna has crashed every ship she's flown so far. Best to keep her away as well.
seems like some people think this is sexist to say. I would have made the same joke if it was Geordi. Calm yourselves.
That was NOT his fault.
@@chaff5 so sick of this sexist bad lady driver slam of Deanna. The D's saucer was knocked out of orbit by an exploding warp core and its helm control was offline. The E had exhausted its weapon complement and Picard ORDERED Deanna to ram the ship in a last ditch effort to save themselves.
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@@chaff5incorrect. The ship was already crashing. What you meant to say was "Deanna has safely landed every ship she's ever piloted, saving lives in the process"
I love how its now canon that in every episode after the macrovirus incident, theres one just, chilling out on the bridge
I'm never going to look at that panel by the engineering station the same way again.
I loved that Voyager got the finale that it deserved. My only real question is: did Harry Kim FINALLY get promoted?
I think he was the first starfleet officer to retire as a cadet somehow… 🤔
Hahaha no. He's never getting promoted. Janeway would rather break time than suffer Harry Kim to rise to Lieutenant or Lt. Cmdr.
@@TheAsvarduilProjectThe real reason for Endgame
Yes, to ALMOST Lt. Junior Grade.
He actually was caught with CP and served several years in prison. Weird.
Voyager was actually my introduction to Star Trek, and to see it in this fashion is just awesome.
And in apocrypha, _Voyager_ 's career continued to be celebrated when, in _Star Trek Online_ , she was de-mothballed with Captain Tuvok in command. As the ship (and crew) with the most experience in the Delta Quadrant, she was an appropriate choice in accompanying the player back into the Delta Quadrant to get to the bottom of the Undine (Species 8472), and their efforts to infiltrate the Alpha and Beta Quadrant powers. Tuvok even gets to lead a foray into Fluidic Space in order to confront the Undine, when they also discover Borg efforts to find a way to assimilate them.
I do like the ST:O lore, though at this point its an alternate timeline. If such a thing even exists with how time seems to work in Star Trek - its very much *shrug* at this stage with how over-manipulated it is.
And in the current 25th Starfleet Tutorial STO missions, Admiral Janeway and Voyager aided your ship against the Borg incursion into Vega Colony with help from Captain Nog and his ship, the Chimera! Although, I don't think they explained how Tuvok ended up in command of Voyager and the Fluidic Space taskforce and the Delta Alliance missions later on. Maybe it was Tuvok's ability to "talk" to the Undine that got him that job and Janeway got reassigned (or reassigned herself) to something else.
@@RockRedGenesis Judging by Prodigy, Admiral Janeway seems to much more readily recognize talent and the value of delegation than Captain Janeway. I could definitely see the admiral letting the best captain for the mission have it; especially since Tuvok has always been shown to be her most trusted crewman. (Unlike Harry Kim, the eternal ensign...)
STO handled the lore far better than any of the new stuff has ever done. Shame STO has to incorporate the new trash though.
@@RockRedGenesis tbh it's probably because Beltran refused, Mulgrew is too expensive and Russ charges more acceptable rates for voice acting for the budget of a free to play game. Problems like these are what writers are for! XD
Voyager is a legendary Ship. With a legendary Crew. An Ensign on that ship had more experience and toughness pushed into them then most others in Starfleet.
Probably my favourite ship (Defiant in running too though), while it makes me happy to know it’s full history it’s a little melancholy that the end of STV was the end of the ships active service. Kinda hoped their adventures would continue but I suppose the nature of the crew meant if it continued it would be a very different environment, like Pike’s enterprise vs Kirk’s
It's not your favourite. You're only saying that to fit in with people in the comments.
@@Harkeillawhat makes you say that? Don’t you think a video on voyager would attract people who like the ship?
I love Star Trek! Currently on my 3rd re-watch of Voyager since the show ended. It is getting dated though, especially with no remaster in sight! Here's looking forward to "Strange New Worlds". Cheers 🍻
😊 yay we finally have one of my burning questions answered
Which was what happened to the USS voyage ncc-74656 AFTER they came home I always imagined engineers pouring over the ship studying it and having a lot of wtf, how did that work moments.
But Good Lord the original creator of the intrepid class must have had a minor heart attack seeing the kinds of shit the crew of voyager did to keep er running 😊
Honestly, Tuvok remobilising the ship and using it has his admiral's flagship is a much more fitting end for Voyager than just forever belonging in a fleet museum
Yeah, I always thought it was weird that even though it's been through a lot, they retired a 7 year old ship. Better to have her serve as an admirals ship and finish her service before becoming a museum piece.
Am I the only one who finds it incredibly ironic that the voyager got shipwide holo emitters only _after_ it returned to the alpha quadrant and the doctor had left?
4:00 little tip, not sure if it works or not with a intrepid but you can fly under a nemesis style dock to fly into it, the hitbox in sto is weird, because these drydocks for such a small ship just... seem ridiculous ..
Wow, the Voyager ship sounds so fun. If only a show was on a modern, updated version.
Trust me, you wouldn't want a 'modern' version of Voyager, at least not one developed/headed by that idiot Klutzman with today's standards. The closest you can get is Prodigy, and that's been canceled, which is a shame, because out of all of the Kurtzman era trek, its the one that respects what came before it the most, the rest, not so much.
i love prod and hope we get to see S2 one day but SNW literally retells old episodes with a new twist and LD is a love letter to old trek and the whole reason this video was able to be made lol @@TheGuardianofAzarath
@@lilkris3008LD is just nostalgia milking with some lame ass attempts to constantly insert a joke somewhere, I can't wait for it along with the rest of Kurtzman Trek to get cancelled.
@@lilkris3008 I've only seen season one of SNW (so no opinion on the rest yet) but I quite enjoyed it. It's not perfect, but I enjoy having optimistic Trek again.
Fair enough but how much have you watched? S1E1 yeah you are totally right but S2 and the first two episodes of season 4 are awesome and most of the jokes work in universe. Its not perfect but there is real character growth and they clearly know trek@@ayato1036
finally USS Voyager got some love and recognition from Star Trek makers
This is an issue I have with the new “canon timeline” why take voyager out of service when it’s not every that old by the time of lower decks and could still be of use, and by the time of Star Trek Picard, Voyager, and the defiant are in the fleet museum, why ?? I find it rather stupid when those ships are not that old and can still be use, in the Star Trek Online, they are both still in service but just upgraded with the times,
Agreed, I somewhat understand the historical significance of the ship, but there was nothing wrong with the ship to begin with.
There's a difference between a seven year old ship in the alpha quadrant, with regular access to shipyards and replacement parts.....
Versus seven years of battles, operating WAY outside intended use of the ship, jerry-rigged repairs, etc. It also went through being partially assimilated, fluidic space, physically entering the q continuum, experiencing the birth of the universe, time rifts, the carona of a star, a telepathic pitcher plant, and unstable experimental methods of ftl travel.
All without going through a maintenance overhaul.
@@inajar7947 When you put it like that I can definitely see that returning Voyager to active service would most likely require a MAJOR overhaul that would likely cost as much as building an entirely new ship. Plus, in "researching" the ship and all its modifications they most likely stripped it near to the bare bulkheads before mostly just making it look good for serving as a museum ship. Returning her to a state in which she could properly function would be heavily time and resource extensive from that point alone. All this adds up to "Yes, Voyager is best served becoming a museum ship." Likely something similar could be said for the Defiant.
@@inajar7947 Exactly this, a real world example would be how ships that saw heavy wartime service during WW1 and WW2 where almost immediately scrapped postwar were are other ships (sometimes of the same class) would be kept post war or mothballed.
For Starfleet I imagine by the early 2380s they would have a surplus of newly built ships due the Domain War which wouldn't have seen as much use compared to Voyager, not to mention there would also be a large number of hulls almost finished construction (for example other Intrepid class ship/similar size) so it would be a better use of resources to finish, given the hull was alone was have needed ALOT of work to bring it back into Starfleet specs.
Long term making Voyager museum ship was probably of more use to Starfleet (makes a great PR/recruitment tool) that just having one extra Intrepid class.
@inajar7947 so again not that old. Refits are expected
Seriously enjoyed this
Lower Decks, the only new work that actually gets Star Trek and doesn't spit on the source every two seconds.
I'm curious if we'll be getting Lower Decks Voyager model as an alternate skin in Star Trek Online. That design was too clean to just be one-and-done.
o7 cmdrs! What a nice touch, at the end, Ric ;)
I'd like to see the Fleet Museum revisited in Discovery. Another chance for a nostalgic showcase of Voyager, all the Enterprises and to see what ships were added after the events of Picard and Section 31. I'd love to see a top down angled view of Voyager and a closer view of the NX-01 refit, and I definitely wouldn't say no to more of the D either 😁
As my family and I watched the Season four premiere of Lower Decks, the feed cut-out right as the Cerritos was arriving at the station housing Voyager, though, of course, we did not know this yet. My heart sank, but a quick change of channels brought the feed back ... right as the show cut to the first image of Voyager. I audibly gasped. With the incredible timing, and the music swelling, I was nearly overcome with emotion. Seeing Voyager again, under her own power, was breathtaking.
The rest of the episode wasn't bad, and I liked the alternative take on the Tuvix problem and how the show managed to skirt it, but the highlight was absolutely seeing Voyager's beauty shot in the gorgeous clean animation of Lower Decks.
I loved Voyager as a series. Interesting to get some background as to what happened to the ship in the Star Trek Universe.
It both Angers me and Saddens me that a ship with this much adventure and importance, once returned to earth ended up being a "Lab rat." Yes I know this course of action was required and such, but to me she should of gone on active service as she was a capable ship, but needs must I guess!!
How many times was that ship almost destroyed? By the time you've replaced every bulkhead and power conduit you'd have been best building a new ship.
The class served it's purpose and in Voyager beyond expectations, at least she isn't scraped as would have happened in the real world.
Like the D she is like warp-ready, but they keep her reactors powered down and un-fuled, and command controls locked out. It would have been cool to see Seven of Nine come flying into the battler at Earth with Voyager, Tom Paris and Harry Kim doing what they can to keep her in the fight.
I’d like to know what happened to the other version of the doctor that was on this one planet that was going through a Civil War and in this museum. Eventually the doctor left the world to come back to Earth. But that essentially meant they were two versions of the doctor.
Thought the Voyager-A would be the Vivace class based on the BridgeCommander&Armada and Legacy games.
It would be interesting to know the feelings towards other Intrepid class ships that are still in service, knowing they would likely never live up to Voyager.
1 & 3 I’m living the dream!
I’m surprised how little time there is between voyager returning and the synth attack on mars. I wonder whether Lower Decks or Prodigy will give us our first onscreen details about the Romulan supernova?
IT would absolutely be in the Lower decks wheelhouse, being federation-centered, but I think Prodigy is slightly further ahead in the timeline. Assuming it's not canceled, Prodigy might have references, but Lower decks will probably give the full story, with buildup and major characters.
Harry Kim should be a Captain.
At least he’s a captain in Star Trek Online
Voyager will always be my favorite... it is objectively not the "best" ST show, but it is still subjectively wonderful. I deeply enjoy the one-big-family aspect, one extended crew cut off from Starfleet far, far from home. It makes the bonding between characters so much more of a necessity and means forging alliances matters more than ever before, I could write a paper on why Voyager makes me feel at home more than any other show but I'll stop here haha
ST VOY is my all time most favorite star trek series ❤❤
It’s just the Lamarr-Class, and Not “Lamar”, it’s “Lamarr”, Hedy Lamarr was an American Actress and Inventor in the early 20th century, during WW2 she helped develop Broad-Spectrum Communications, and was reportedly the “Mother of Wifi”.
Basically The Voyager-A is a Lamarr-Class Special Science Cruiser! Not much is known about her internals although she’s said to be similar in size, if not Slightly Smaller than, a Sovereign-Class Starship!
It's Hedley Lamarr...
Where would we be without her frequency-hopping algorithms. Not just wifi, but also Bluetooth depends on it to dynamically allocate the spectrum across all users in overlapping coverage areas.
Would've been nice if Voyager either landed on Earth or docked at Space Dock at the end. But I get it, we already had sort of that ending in a alternate history.
It did fly to Earth with expies of the other hero ships of the modern trek, a Galaxy and Defiant, a sort of symbol of it joining their echelons. Might have been better to have a more literal display of homeliness, reflective of their efforts, rather a symbolic one.
Wow this ship truly earned its namesake as Voyager
Sheesh...Starfleet stores stuff in its ships like corporates no longer have warehouses but store in truck trailers on the move.
I wouldn't be surprised if further technologic advancements were made in the future regarding Voyager and what she took home. Or whether it was logged in her memory banks without even realizing it.
I'd love to see Voyager be shown again in the way that Enterprise was in the Picard series. Considering Patrick Stewart was in his 80's when he last stepped onto the bridge, I haven't given up on seeing Kate Mulgrew say 'Engage!' on Voyager again!
I never gave it much thought tbh since it was pretty obvious what would have happened. I guess it's always nice to know for sure. It also explains why a Voyager movie wouldn't have happened unless they took command of a new ship IE Voyager - A.
A perfect ending for the ship!
Don't forget that they might discover these things in Prodigy as well.
I know I've chimed on this before but I'll drop it again. There are no hallways on ships, they are called passageways. Likewise floors are the deck, walls are bulkheads and ceilings are overheads. Naval terminology lesson of the day. 🙃
hmm i wonder since lower deck seem to revisit older shows from trek like ds9 voyager and just went back in time to pike period i wonder how big of a change that we may see an enterprise episode in lower deck
Star Trek Legacy, with Seven of Nine as captain, if it gets made, might require a lot of Voyager references to draw audience.
I strongly suggest everyone either read, or preferably get the audio book version o, of “an autobiography of Kathryn Janeway”. The audio is read by Kate Mulgrew. In addition to telling all about her life It goes into some of what happened to the ship. Other than I little retconning and have small parts changed by Picard it is exceptional.
I would still love to know what happened to the USS Equinox crew who were demoted from Officers to Crewmen when fleeing to voyager.
What's the function of the big groove down the front of the Pathfinder?
Janeway wants to ram shit with it. its the bayonet mount point.
@@DigiTheInformer I always thought she was about to spontaneously grow a...bayonet.
Does anyone know if he use the Lexington? He's always flying a ship that looks exactly like it just without the hanger on screen
If the Lexington were a intel ship itd be perfect (personal opinion) or if the cardassian flight deck carrier could look like the Lexington itd be the perfect ship
In star trek online I have a pathfinder class vessel. Honestly it's perf
A certain plot point in a Voyager novel is why I stopped buying Star Trek book entirely and now have not bought one for years.
Interesting how the novel sales fell off a cliff around the same time, makes me wonder if I wasn't the only one put off by them ?
What was it?
Yeah, what was that plot point?
I met particularly liked the Intrepid class design. The saucer section seemed oversized to me kind of how the Galaxy class was. It was disproportionate so my opinion is purely regarding the aesthetics of it.
She was immediately retired and Starfleet commissioned Voyager A. Under the command of Captian Tuvok
"This ship has been our home, it's kept us together, it's been part of our family." -- Captain Kathryn Janeway, 2374
After it returned home the engine seized up and the did a LS swap on it.
Dumb question - does the Voyager have to use some sort of active-anchoring system when landed, so it doesn't tip forward?
I have wondered how they keep the entire, overhanging saucer section from nosediving into the ground when they land.
@@amateurcrastinator9523 It could just come down to weight distribution. There's a lot of (presumably) heavy stuff in the secondary hull/engineering section like the warp core, primary deflector, shuttle/cargo bays, which could offset the mass in the saucer which tends to have less heavy equipment.
@WhitzWolf92 I remain skeptical. But I'll say, "Possibly".
Must be weight distributed..... Although, how heavy is an anti-matter core? Well, we know it just floats in space even when ejected under momentum. So it must be special in some way.
@@amateurcrastinator9523”antigrav thrusters” are mentioned as both part of the landing and takeoff procedures, so I’d assume it is indeed some active system. They use (anti)gravitons for so much else besides.
What about the Ablative armor from the final arc?
I’m trying to find that video about what happened to the voyager crew could you put it in the comments or something?
ua-cam.com/video/3DMWGvweYf4/v-deo.html It's a little old now and we have some more info I think, but here it is!
"There were issues" :D
I wonder if the crew ever stayed in touch when going there separate ways
For ye old algorithm 👊
Did they only ever make one Intrepid vessel or were there others?
The Voyager was not the only Intrepid class vessel, there also existed the USS Bellerophon (NCC-74705) which was shown in the Deep Space Nine Episode named Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges (S7E16).
I wonder what they thought when they opened Neelix's fridge.
I feel like there should be the Voyager tune and we should be saluting her.. lol
How(why) did SF get the Kronos 1?
Maybe has less value in Klingon society if it wasn't famous for a battle, but rather transporting Chancellor Gorkon to a peace conference.
We don't have any canon explanation, but there's plenty of theories. Perhaps the Klingons didn't care much about it, so they happily handed it over to the Federation when they asked (as @vaska00762 says). Or maybe they donated it to the Federation as a sign of good will and respect as part of peace treaty negotiations, knowing that Federation members care more about that type of thing. Maybe it ended up derelict somewhere and Starfleet discovered, recovered, restored and put it on display. It may have simply been on loan from the Klingon's fleet museum equivalent. Could have been other reasons as well.
@@ManabiLT I can see the Excalibur being displayed at the Klingon Museum. A more worthy vessel of battle and honour than Kronos 1.
The Red Angel Suit Universe Voyager is short lived.
The shielding voyager got from future janeway never showed up again huh
The mystery vessel from LD season 4 looks like it could be related...
You really couldn't have another crew be on that ship
800 crew members on 1 ship!!.. I wont repeat what I said irl but it was heavy.. Voyager only had 143 life forms as the Borg probe confirmed..
what happened to the armor and transphasic torpedos from futurejaneway?
Probably seized by some Federation/Starfleet Organisation either to prevent further timeline contamination or to reverse engineer it.
Keeping my ears open for this one because I want to know too. I suspect publicly confiscated by Temporal Investigations, clandestinely studied by s31 or something.
29 decks on the Lamarr Voyager? Tall boi
The borg seem to be so inconsistent, so if janeway totally destroyed the Borg on her return as said in Picard S3. why was a course plotted to a borg cube?
They could easily say there were multiple queens (Which would probably make sense even before now with First Contact and with the various actors playing The Borg Queen), just say that becuase of her injuries the Queen from Picard was disconnected from the collective as a whole.
I often thought that should have been stated, like they had a different queen in multiple sectors of the galaxy, all operating collectively with each other and separately in their designated area.
It's probably for the best that they try to keep the Borg enigmatic, the less they're used the better, since ST can't seem to agree on what the Borg are let alone more philosophical points like does, how or should a gestalt intelligence have a hierarchical power structure?
DONT blame the borg for being inconsistent. blame the shoddy writing.
Prodigy has your answer.
There’s tons of Borg cubes just sitting out there, dormant. But they’re not connected to a wider collective anymore, only within each ship. Just as the Cube encountered in Prodigy wanted to assimilate USS Protostar, the reactivated dormant programming in Lower Decks wanted Voyager.
Even with the Borg “decimated” (which doesn’t actually mean totally destroyed), they still have a deep innate desire to try and rebuild if there’s even one survivor. Just like the 2 drones found in Enterprise, which then assimilated a cargo ship and its crew.
@@kaitlyn__L I'm gonna be that guy. Technically "decimated" means one out of every 10 destroyed. People tend to use the word as if it means 9 out of 10 though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
How many times did the ship explode in the series?
Twice, from what I can recall. In the episode 'Deadlock' (season 2 - because of some weird warpy dawpy stuff that replicated the ship and crew) and 'year of hell' (season 4 - because of that always annoying and lazy time paradox nonsense writing).
Stellar Cartograpgers probably set upon the databanks like hungry jackals.
Why didn't you consider the Voyager in Star Trek: Discovery season 4?
They plan to Make test using Voyager
In Star Trek Online…the story mode missions have Tuvok using the original USS Voyager as his command ship in the early 2400’s.
Kelis: And Voyager, a great ship?
B'elana: In a long line of great ships
Why don't they make more ships like the last episode of VOY when it had all that awesome armor and weapons?
Not revealed in canon yet, but presumably because they were from the future and confiscated in accordance with the Temporal Prime Directive. Again, not mentioned in official lore yet.
@@CertifiablyIngame That makes sense. The Borg don't care that much about such things. I wonder why they didn't utilize their knowledge of time travel to get Borg knowledge of the future like they did in First Contact. The Queen showed some concern about it in ST: Picard, but they generally don't care. Janeway super cheated to win, and it seems the Borg just let it happen.
Shuttlecraft SC-4 was destroyed along with the Unicomplex.
Yes. This channel guy doesn't do a very good at research. He didn't even get the year right in which the ship returned.
I guess technically there was a macro Twovix.
Sounds like they skipped Voyager-A?
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“There were issues “. Best way to sum up the lower decks series.
I like the lore in Star Trek Online better personally. insert obigitory remarks about STD era timeline here
Hm. DS9 really is the Jan Brady in Paramount's Star Trek stable, huh?
Never did finish Voyager when it first aired. A mixture of "God this show has gotten repetitive" and real life lead to me dropping it from my viewing habit. Worse is when I tried watching it again during Covid, I found I couldn't even make it to the "Year of Hell".
year of hell is over rated, i found it boring and dragged out to long.
@@humzaibrahim2953 Sad part is they never got to do it right. It was suppose to be at least a half season or more that their corporate over lords turned down for reasons resulting in them halving only the two episodes to get it done it.
@@samuelmeasa9283 lol the whole show was meant to be year of hell, at first theyre looking for dilithium etc resources. But they never explain how the torpedoes replenish lol. The issue is plot holes. For example voyager returned with future tech, this should have made starfleet untouchable.. but for some reason no reverse engineered ships appeared in picard. They never explain why in futures end the doctor keeps his mobile emitter, braxton encounters them n brings them back to normal time yet so blindly forgets the doctor is “footloos and carefree”.
Voyager doesnt get the respect it deserves.
the defiant was destroyed and the 2nd one remained at ds9
If I may go off on a Tangent
Voyager, at the time of the series premiere, was only RECENTLY launched. And was only 7 years old by the time she got back to the Federation.
And yet they decide to decommission her when the original Enterprise NCC 1701 was serving for over THREE TIMES that timeframe.
I just...I just take issue with whoever decided to decomission a ship that young.
Granted the Original NX-01 only served 10 years, but with all the upgrades to Voyager (Not counting all the time shit with Admiral Janeway in Endgame) That ship EASILY has another 18 years on her.
Sure, she can be a mueseum ship when the time is right, but only 7 years into her life? Really?
The decommissioning was more about all the alien and future technologies integrated into the ship during its time in the Delta Quadrant. It was far more useful for information and research purposes than as a ship at that point.
Also, Voyager itself became kind of a mythological ship, one that the Federation knows has inspirational value to their member worlds. Putting it back into service is an unnecessary risk as it would be targeted by the Federation's enemies hoping to score a moral victory by destroying the ship that explored the Delta quadrant.
@@timboerger2240 Fair enough.
But by that same token, shouldn't Enterprise not be out exploring either?
@@amateurcrastinator9523 And they couldn't do both why?
I mean, ok, study the ship. grab her logs, but that ship is still useful as a ship.
@jeremydale4548 It's The Federation. They can just easily replace it and there's no need at all to put it back into service. They can take their studying every inch of it and if there are questions later, they can simply go look. Also, the risk of putting a ship with such substantial advanced and unknown technologies in a situation in which it might be then by a hostile force, it's just easier to keep it.
for every fan of voyager i can only full hearted tell you GO READ THE BOOKS that continue the story
20 years ago the whole star trek universe was continued in books, you have voyager, TNG, ds9 all continued and some epic crossover masterpieces ... this are by far the best books ever written in the star trek universe :) i can only tell you to go and read them and u will enjoy it so much more then the crap the tv series and movies nowadays bring us xD this extended universe is a masterpiece
The Cold Equations Trilogy by David Mack remain my favourites, and are the reason I won't watch Picard as I preferred their solution for Data, as well as the overall universe they take place within.
You guys really have to take every opportunity to whine incessantly about current Trek. Move on already.
i dont have to, these books are amazing :) and i dont think u have accept crap just because tehy give u alot of it ... if i shit on you, you accept it after a while is that what u tell me ? also this was my first post ever about star trek on youtube so ur "you guys always" u can put where no sun shines :)@@mechanomics2649
Thank you I may do that. Give me a place to start my friend?
@@mechanomics2649 stop the desiccation of it then.
Time for Starfleet to forcibly eject more ships far into space to see what they come back with.
What happened? It went off the air 20 years ago!
Sorry, Certifiably Ingame, but didn't you make a video a year or so ago detailing how once the USS Voyager made it back to Earth, it was pressed back into active service as if its previous achievements amounted to nought?
Different timeline.
Were the orange salamander things Janeway and Paris' babies?
Replica Paris and Janeway. There were only two of them and one of them (presumably Janeway) took the Captain's seat when it was flying to the cube.
@@wendyheatherwood I mean, were those the baby salamander things from the absolutely horrible episode in which they achieved warp 10 and de-evolved. They were lying in a pool and had a few little babies when Chakotay found them.
@amateurcrastinator9523 the actual babies were left on the planet to fend for themselves. The ones in Lower Decks were just animatronics and are a better match for the size and colour of Paris and Janeway.
@@wendyheatherwood Ok. I was wondering what happened with those babies. I've only seen a few episodes of Lower Decks. Thank you.
I wouldn't call it a small task force, it was a pretty large force. Possibly as many or more than the Battle of Wolf 359.
You clearly have not watched the season finale in some time. It was stated that there were "18 ships in position and 9 more on the way." Wolf 359 had 39 ships. Last I counted, 39 was considerably more than 27.