Bruh, I love how after all this time you’re strategy basically hasn’t changed at all. But watching you struggle against the AI with all the ups and downs is what makes these videos entertaining so never change my dude ☺️🙏
Damn I got so many thoughts watching this :D 1) That Linhir bridge, my full stack of AA defending against 2 full stacks of late game Mordor army including Witch king. Massacre of the damned. 2) Amroth is the most difficult campaign, 3 powerful enemy factions swarming all over the place. I play Total war my all live, since Shogun 1, and I get my ass handed to me so much by this. 3) I watched all your V4 videos today and let me share an appreciation of the fact you are only youtuber on Earth capable of pronouncing names of units and cities! Glorified be! 4) Motivated by this video, Im off to give those Swan-fuckers one more try. Sound the horns of Gondor, this is gonna be grand! (What a great mod this, CA should do official LOTR Total war game and hire all of you as a consultants)
This is very off topic but it does give some insight in how much the world can change. My Lothlorien campaign is going rather well. I had made peace with Dol Guldur after taking Dol Guldur itself along with Dor Norhauch and Dant'alad, that was around turn 40 maybe. I'm now in turn 110 and that peace is still going strong. The Misty Mountains were killed by me and Imladris. In the meantime though, the state of the world is really fluctuating. Mordor took Minas Tirith and Lossarnach. Gondor is still holding in Pelargir and Brethil but is slowly losing ground, Cair Andros is still standing very strong and they still haven't lost it. Rohan managed, at first, to drive back Isengard all the way to Orthanc itself, Enedwaith helped. Then Isengard got their last stand script and it completely turned around. Isengard is now at the gates of Edoras, and cut Enedwaith's land in half. Meanwhile in Eriador, the Dwarves of Ered Luin accepted Sauron's gift, did nothing for about 40 turns. Causing the Dunedain to lose Annuminas and Fornost, and Bree lost Hobbiton. Then Ered Luin said fuck you to Sauron, and made an Alliance with the Dunedain and the High Elves and declared war on Angmar. Bree managed to take back Hobbiton and the Dunedain took back Fornost. The Dwarves took Annuminas and are beating Angmar. In the East, I Rhun is fighting Dale, Dorwinion and Erebor, they came to me with an Alliance which I accepted, so they wouldn't attack me. Gundabad managed to take Erebor and Dale, and the upper-western part of the Vale of Anduin. (I own the lower-western part). Then I activated Lothlorien's script with the Woodland Realm. Mordor attacked me because of that. To my surprise Rhun joined ME, and declared war on Mordor. I managed to beat Mordor's doomstack at Caras Galadhon, wiping out their entire army. Took half a stack with some random general and managed to take Minas Morgul, Celeborn I sent with a full stack and is currently besieging the Black Gate. I sent Haldir with another full stack to help Rohan, which he managed to do. I own Rochburg, Onodrith, Gineard and the Hornburg. Effectively making sure Rohan is not fighting against Isengard. Because of this Rohan managed to somehow reclaim Calenhad and Minas Tirith. A few other details, Khazad-Dum was lost. The Dwarves themselves turned into a horde again, declared war on Rohan, then sat in their land doing sod all for 40 turns. Then out of nowhere betrayed and attacked me. Haldir managed to wipe them out with a Rohirric army full of cav. The Goblins took back Khazad-Dum, I then reclaimed it, along with Eregion, and Annon-en-Orod and I sent an army up north to take Goblin Town. The High Elves have Cameth Brin and Zagh Kala. AA is going balls to the walls insane, they have managed to take Mithlond, Forlond and Buzra-Dum, they are also fighting the Dwarves of Ered Luin, Dol Amroth and Gondor and they have currently also declared war on Harad. Dale took back Dale and are still holding it. Erebor is holding at the Iron Hills, Gimli is the new King, (I quite like that) Gloin is his heir. They are now at a standstill with Gundabad. And this is where I'm at now. Hope this gives you an insight on how insane the war and the world can get.
I like how Galu always trys to remove ways to cheese the game, and than always cheeses his campaigns in mostly all possible ways :D , don`t get me wrong, it`s fun watching him ;)
The beauty of the Dol Amroth campaign is that everytime you play it, it is almost NEVER the same. I cut the head off the snake with Adunaim by about turn 12, thought I was in the clear but got shafted by Khand and fought between them and Harad until about turn SEVENTY. Now it's at turn 82, Gondor has been invaded by Mordor but we're fighting back in all our united strength. I took Pelargir as my reward for saving their sorry arses and now Imrahil sets out to save Rohan from annihilation whilst my up and coming generals defend the lands of Gondor with every stroke of steel they can muster! One thing for any DA campaign is true though... Khand are treacherous, vile savages and I cried tears of joy when they sided with Mordor so I could hunt down every last one of them. Anyone else lie in bed strategising your next moves? Just me? o.O The RPG element you guys have created within this incredibly old game deserves a hot tea or a cold beer. Cheers!
Dol Amroth is a bloody hard campaign. I actually found in my DA campaign that regicide didn't actually help at all. First I managed to defeat Umbar through Regicide, however despite holding on to all the AA coastal regions, this meant Harad cleaned up their inner regions and got v. powerful. After an extremely protracted fight against Harad I also managed to regicide them! However this meant Khand filled the gap left by Harad and just became incessant in their attacks against me in Harondor, sending stack after stack against the few Haradraim towns I held. Now whilst I might've been able to hold on in the South and resupply my troops constantly from by sea to keep up the defence of Faenobel and the other cities (cant remember their names) by now it was about turn 120 and Gondor was being routed by Mordor in the East, this meant that Mordor eventually took my heartland as I just couldn't spare the troops (or effort) to fight off Mordor stack spam, and after this I resigned the campaign to a stalemate and gave up on it.
Aww.. Galu I like the sound of the cat in the background it adds character and don't raid Umber!! Who you think you are Aragon?? ;-) also I have faith you can beat all 3 back Harad, Khand, and Umber you can dew it!! :-)
The last time I played Dol Amroth, I ran into the same issue you did, and pretty much came up with the same solution. I'd been trying to push down the coast, but stalled out around Gobel Mirlond, where I just never got enough of a breather from the constant flank attacks to push any further south. After 40-50 turns of that, I basically decided "ok, screw any more of this", loaded all my armies from the southern area onto ships, and went straight for Umbar. It took a long time to consolidate my position around Umbar after I took it, but I finally was able to build up enough infrastructure there and ship in enough troops from Dol Amroth to make a successful push north and east against Harad and Khand. Heck of a grind, but it was so satisfying to finally wipe them all out. 😁⚔🔥
Raids are actually quite easy to defend against because you have forts next to every city at the sea, so you can have 5-6 free upkeep units at every city to defend
The Lionheart campaing as Dol Amroth still is a good one (i dunno if you did a lot of changes in this new version of DaC). His strategy was destroy Umbar, but he didn't achieve that sending a huge army with his fleet because the Umbarin fleet always wrecked his ships. He simply conquered Umbar piece by piece and had a little bit of luck destroying Umbar itself and regiciding their royal family. After Umbar provinces were conquered he started swimming in money and destroyed Harad even before the Barracks and the Blue Wizards script. However he had another luck, Khand changed the side joining the Blue Wizards, however before that he retook Tirothoros and hold both the Variags and the Haradrin at bay untill the Blue Wizards script happens. As I can see your game, the umbarin fleet in isn't so huge and good, maybe you should sending the fleet with a strong army or trying to push them piece by piece exploring your cavalry to beat them easily and recruiting a bunch of pikes to beat both Khand and Harad cav.
Forget about the fleet, the op umbarin fleet finnaly arrived and destroy your fleet. There is no choice instead pushing against Umbar, however you won't have a regicide, at least the leader or the heir is in Gobel Mirlond or in the other city to the south of the Harnen mouth.
LionheartX10 is still playing this campaign(V3), but started the way you had planned(fight along the coast amd take Umbar) and now he is heading into mordor. It was a though campaign but that depends on the way you play it. If your ships were attacked and you lost your whole army there, it would have been a serious struggle as well
I think that the opening message for harad needs updating it still speak of the fact that they have allied with old umbar and the leaders name is also outdated. Anyway keep up the good videos
I've noticed that in V4 onwards heavy cavalry has a tendency to mess up their charge, the first ranks fly off towards the enemy while the rear sloppily makes their way eventually. I was furious when Gandalf did what Imrahil did to you here for the first couple of times :P
This only happens if cav is too close to the unit they are about to charge or if its not a clean charge, eg you may have touched another unit before you charge
Hi :), a small observation...if rushing Umbar is the only way to survive as Dol Amroth, doesn't this kinda defeat the purpose of the corsair invasion script, since, if you win the campaign you don't even see his activation? I mean it does something, it works like a soft timer, but I don't know if it is what your team intended Thank you and tour team for your superb work on the mod!
I love your videos!!!! I was wondering what are you considering for your next lore video, why not make Morgoth and Sauron: their relationship to one another (from the initial seduction to Sauron taking Morgoth's place in Middle-Earth) and how their notion of evil is different (Morgoth being more about destruction while Sauron being more od domination and order).
Galu, after experiencing the struggles of the campaign, do you have any intentions of buffing Dol Amorth in the early game? I love the faction but you can’t win the campaign conventionally
I was wondering and following in a big curiosity how you gonna manage it without rushing to Umbar. It is level 5 difficulty in that way (if game is VH). But I am disappointed unfortunately.
In my campaign, trying to build up after defeating the AA was a mistake. Khand has 4 full stacks at turn 41 near Linhir. It's gonna get bloody, but thats how I like it, let them come! :D
Galu: This game is sooo easy, like there is no challenge AT ALL. Also, Dol Ameoth is easily a 1 on the difficulty scale. We should also gift the AI a full doomstack on turn one on any difficulty. Galu: *actually faces a serious challenge* Also Galu: 😦
4 роки тому
Whilst the spirit of your comment is, on the whole, correct, I didnt say Dol Amroth was super easy and I ranked it as a 3.
I know it would be better to write this on discord or ModDB, but I'm currently playing a Dol Amroth SA campaign and going to conquer the whole map.... A problem I have is facing high-armour tier people like High Elves or Dwarves because I have no armour piercing troops that are available everywhere...On the whole roster of them are only 2 AP units and they come onl from Gondor. It would be nice to give them some crossbows or an axe unit instead of the seaward footmen... Thx for all the enjoyable content especially in those times Greetings
The southern front is so unfair, it is Gondor and Dol`Amroth against Mordor, Khand, Harad and AA. Just because some people cheese the game and go for the capitals via ships it doesn`t t mean the game is easy, it means that you just exploited an AI limitation. Yeah, Galu could put in a script that spawns a 20 elite army with end game units to stop Umbar sniping, but that still doesn`t address the inability to enjoy a proper campaign of slowly pushing enemy away until you reach their capital by land. You know what ? That would actually work, have a script active for 50 turns that protects Finobel and Umbar with a ridiculous spawn stack but in turn leave way more room for Dol`Amroth and Gondor to get land into Harandor. I, for one, would have liked to have a normal campaign with both Gondor and Dol`Amroth but the only viable strategies are sniping Umbar with DA and Minas Morgul with Gondor.
Rushing minas ithil isnt abusing the ai, its easily achieved even with house rules like giving the ai 10 turns before you do anything and having max 1 general per army. When playing dol amroth, just take a more defensive approach for the first 60 turns if you dont want to rush capitals, build town halls for free upkeep and use the forts, so you can afford large enough armies to defend. Use archers in the settlements and have your melee units in the forts. If they siege you, first you attack with the army thats in the city. You shoot until you have no arrows left and then retreat behind the walls. Make sure the gates are closed and ALL units are inside the walls. Now just end the battle. It will be a draw. You can do that every turn once. Now that you have weakend the besieging army use your units in the fort to finish them off. Once you reach turn 60, you will be able to recruit your swan knights and other elite cav units and the campaign is won. Ez.
Of course thats only if you are not as experienced as certain players may be. If you are a very good player you can also just straight up beat them in a 'normal' playstyle
@@kowo7795 Thanks for the tips but aren't they a bit too cheesy ? I mean baiting the AI in sieges and expanding all your arrows and than repeat it again ? Yeah, the fort idea is good, you can also force bridge battles like Galu. But the fact that he just put more than 10.000 troops on one or two boats and went straight for Umbar speaks volumes. I am sure he might be able to use your defensive strategy but that wouldn't be very entertaining. Thanks again for the tips. Some of us are simply too busy with work and stuff to keep our TW edge sharp.
I would suggest rushing the orcs of the misty mountain and knock them out of the game. And try to stay out of dunlands way and let Bree fight with them so you can kill angmar together with the dwarves
They are pretty hard depending on your playstyle. I like to completly overstretch, that way it becomes really hard. Taking Fornost and Annuminas isnt wort it imo. At least not immediatly. I always send everything i got against the OoM, taking OstinEdhil, West Moria and the other settlements except for Zagh Khala, because thats usually when their last stand army spawns and i dont want to waste my units against that. Then i sell all eregion provinces for like 10-20k each to the high elves, and west moria to the dwarves for like 30-35k. That way you are well of for your upcoming campaigns against Angmar, Dunland etc. And try to always keep your dunedain archers alive. At any cost. Never waste them, if they are about to be attacked in a battle i often rather retreat than losing them.
So I’ve downloaded third age version 4.5 yesterday and I tried playing the game, for the first 20 turns it was ok but then when I fought in a battle (Kazak Dûm west) my game would crash and say “unspecified error” I don’t know how to fix it and I would love some help p.s I tried uninstalling and re downloading the mod and deleting maps.rwm from the file none of this seems to be working :(
you do have a huge advantage over khand when fighing seige battles since their cavalry will be mostly useless, especially in the early game. i was hoping to see more of a territory by territory expansion, and you can also consider sacking their cities and then just moving on to the bigger prizes.
Should the province of Umbar really have full sightrange ? Doesn't the idea that Umbar arrives from the far far south collide with the concept only long standing nations have watchtowers ?
4 роки тому
Numenoreans built umbar over 4000 years ago. I think they'd have left a decent tower network.
@ Sure, the city is old but also inhabited by haradhrim and corsairs for a few thousand years if memory serves, so there would most likely be decay, just like seen in Annuminas or Fornost which are just as old as Umbar. But you're the creator of the mod and the whole team did a fantastic job. This is a really minor "disagreement" over self proclaimed rules.
*Commits small scale genocide* "Keep the tax rate low, I would like to hang on to Umbar cause it's a really well developed city . . . and it earns good money . . ." You are really channeling your inner colonialist in this playthrough
Because it is unique to the Ardunaim (and the High Elves have their version of it). Any other faction will destroy the building upon capturing Umbar, leaving only the ruins of the once mighty port.
@@kowo7795 That merits a test! My current playthrough may be Dakian, but now I feel determined to pay Umbar a relatively peaceful visit! Uuuuuh, maybe if the AI does its usual capital-switcheroo, I will be able to buy Umbar for obscene amounts of money (from the newly conquered Sea of Rhun). More on this to come!
So... The point of playing Dol Amroth, is to cheese the game? No idea why you guys set it like this... Think you should make an Umbar script, this sucks big time.
4 роки тому
You don't have to cheese the game. Also, is taking out a factions capital by naval invasion really cheesing?
@ Emmm... HELLOOO? The constant mock of AI in the game and how "easy" it is, yet you do everything possible to make it easier on yourself. Taking out capital is not cheesing, but knowing what it does, is. I just don't get it, but fine, your decision and ill just skip Dol Amroth serie, as this now became really boring one.
I remember when galu said dol amroth was a one on the difficulty scale ;)
Ahhh.. yes I remember that. This were the days. Those were the days...
Bruh, I love how after all this time you’re strategy basically hasn’t changed at all. But watching you struggle against the AI with all the ups and downs is what makes these videos entertaining so never change my dude ☺️🙏
Damn I got so many thoughts watching this :D
1) That Linhir bridge, my full stack of AA defending against 2 full stacks of late game Mordor army including Witch king. Massacre of the damned.
2) Amroth is the most difficult campaign, 3 powerful enemy factions swarming all over the place. I play Total war my all live, since Shogun 1, and I get my ass handed to me so much by this.
3) I watched all your V4 videos today and let me share an appreciation of the fact you are only youtuber on Earth capable of pronouncing names of units and cities! Glorified be!
4) Motivated by this video, Im off to give those Swan-fuckers one more try. Sound the horns of Gondor, this is gonna be grand!
(What a great mod this, CA should do official LOTR Total war game and hire all of you as a consultants)
This is very off topic but it does give some insight in how much the world can change. My Lothlorien campaign is going rather well. I had made peace with Dol Guldur after taking Dol Guldur itself along with Dor Norhauch and Dant'alad, that was around turn 40 maybe. I'm now in turn 110 and that peace is still going strong. The Misty Mountains were killed by me and Imladris.
In the meantime though, the state of the world is really fluctuating. Mordor took Minas Tirith and Lossarnach. Gondor is still holding in Pelargir and Brethil but is slowly losing ground, Cair Andros is still standing very strong and they still haven't lost it.
Rohan managed, at first, to drive back Isengard all the way to Orthanc itself, Enedwaith helped. Then Isengard got their last stand script and it completely turned around. Isengard is now at the gates of Edoras, and cut Enedwaith's land in half.
Meanwhile in Eriador, the Dwarves of Ered Luin accepted Sauron's gift, did nothing for about 40 turns. Causing the Dunedain to lose Annuminas and Fornost, and Bree lost Hobbiton. Then Ered Luin said fuck you to Sauron, and made an Alliance with the Dunedain and the High Elves and declared war on Angmar. Bree managed to take back Hobbiton and the Dunedain took back Fornost. The Dwarves took Annuminas and are beating Angmar.
In the East, I Rhun is fighting Dale, Dorwinion and Erebor, they came to me with an Alliance which I accepted, so they wouldn't attack me. Gundabad managed to take Erebor and Dale, and the upper-western part of the Vale of Anduin. (I own the lower-western part). Then I activated Lothlorien's script with the Woodland Realm. Mordor attacked me because of that. To my surprise Rhun joined ME, and declared war on Mordor. I managed to beat Mordor's doomstack at Caras Galadhon, wiping out their entire army. Took half a stack with some random general and managed to take Minas Morgul, Celeborn I sent with a full stack and is currently besieging the Black Gate.
I sent Haldir with another full stack to help Rohan, which he managed to do. I own Rochburg, Onodrith, Gineard and the Hornburg. Effectively making sure Rohan is not fighting against Isengard. Because of this Rohan managed to somehow reclaim Calenhad and Minas Tirith.
A few other details, Khazad-Dum was lost. The Dwarves themselves turned into a horde again, declared war on Rohan, then sat in their land doing sod all for 40 turns. Then out of nowhere betrayed and attacked me. Haldir managed to wipe them out with a Rohirric army full of cav.
The Goblins took back Khazad-Dum, I then reclaimed it, along with Eregion, and Annon-en-Orod and I sent an army up north to take Goblin Town. The High Elves have Cameth Brin and Zagh Kala.
AA is going balls to the walls insane, they have managed to take Mithlond, Forlond and Buzra-Dum, they are also fighting the Dwarves of Ered Luin, Dol Amroth and Gondor and they have currently also declared war on Harad.
Dale took back Dale and are still holding it.
Erebor is holding at the Iron Hills, Gimli is the new King, (I quite like that) Gloin is his heir. They are now at a standstill with Gundabad.
And this is where I'm at now. Hope this gives you an insight on how insane the war and the world can get.
I like reading these stories. The scale of these wars are always so interesting and fun to behold alongside playing yourself!
Nices thing about this, if you save game on turn 1, and start over. Always a different outcome.
I like how Galu always trys to remove ways to cheese the game, and than always cheeses his campaigns in mostly all possible ways :D , don`t get me wrong, it`s fun watching him ;)
The audio from 17:10 - 17:25 made me fear for me life. Imagine that voice in the dark.
The beauty of the Dol Amroth campaign is that everytime you play it, it is almost NEVER the same. I cut the head off the snake with Adunaim by about turn 12, thought I was in the clear but got shafted by Khand and fought between them and Harad until about turn SEVENTY. Now it's at turn 82, Gondor has been invaded by Mordor but we're fighting back in all our united strength. I took Pelargir as my reward for saving their sorry arses and now Imrahil sets out to save Rohan from annihilation whilst my up and coming generals defend the lands of Gondor with every stroke of steel they can muster!
One thing for any DA campaign is true though... Khand are treacherous, vile savages and I cried tears of joy when they sided with Mordor so I could hunt down every last one of them.
Anyone else lie in bed strategising your next moves? Just me? o.O
The RPG element you guys have created within this incredibly old game deserves a hot tea or a cold beer. Cheers!
Vote up for the Cat :)
The cat at the window meow
Dol Amroth is a bloody hard campaign. I actually found in my DA campaign that regicide didn't actually help at all. First I managed to defeat Umbar through Regicide, however despite holding on to all the AA coastal regions, this meant Harad cleaned up their inner regions and got v. powerful. After an extremely protracted fight against Harad I also managed to regicide them! However this meant Khand filled the gap left by Harad and just became incessant in their attacks against me in Harondor, sending stack after stack against the few Haradraim towns I held. Now whilst I might've been able to hold on in the South and resupply my troops constantly from by sea to keep up the defence of Faenobel and the other cities (cant remember their names) by now it was about turn 120 and Gondor was being routed by Mordor in the East, this meant that Mordor eventually took my heartland as I just couldn't spare the troops (or effort) to fight off Mordor stack spam, and after this I resigned the campaign to a stalemate and gave up on it.
Aww.. Galu I like the sound of the cat in the background it adds character and don't raid Umber!! Who you think you are Aragon?? ;-) also I have faith you can beat all 3 back Harad, Khand, and Umber you can dew it!! :-)
Lol the glee with which Galu kills the Ardunaim is hilarious...
The last time I played Dol Amroth, I ran into the same issue you did, and pretty much came up with the same solution. I'd been trying to push down the coast, but stalled out around Gobel Mirlond, where I just never got enough of a breather from the constant flank attacks to push any further south. After 40-50 turns of that, I basically decided "ok, screw any more of this", loaded all my armies from the southern area onto ships, and went straight for Umbar. It took a long time to consolidate my position around Umbar after I took it, but I finally was able to build up enough infrastructure there and ship in enough troops from Dol Amroth to make a successful push north and east against Harad and Khand. Heck of a grind, but it was so satisfying to finally wipe them all out. 😁⚔🔥
3:38 You watch Community :) "Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well."
dOl aMroTH iS a onE
damn, umbar raid script gave you the short end of the stick
@@anarionelendili8961 Absolutely true - the raids normally consist of a general and a small handful of trash... rather than 3/4 of a stack!
Raids are actually quite easy to defend against because you have forts next to every city at the sea, so you can have 5-6 free upkeep units at every city to defend
@@anarionelendili8961 true, I didn't see the general
@@MadsBoldingMusic not for Gobel Tolfalas, the script text/code has 1 or 2 main line umbar units
Thanks for this video, watching while parked up on M25 waiting 1st job of the day.
The Lionheart campaing as Dol Amroth still is a good one (i dunno if you did a lot of changes in this new version of DaC).
His strategy was destroy Umbar, but he didn't achieve that sending a huge army with his fleet because the Umbarin fleet always wrecked his ships. He simply conquered Umbar piece by piece and had a little bit of luck destroying Umbar itself and regiciding their royal family. After Umbar provinces were conquered he started swimming in money and destroyed Harad even before the Barracks and the Blue Wizards script. However he had another luck, Khand changed the side joining the Blue Wizards, however before that he retook Tirothoros and hold both the Variags and the Haradrin at bay untill the Blue Wizards script happens.
As I can see your game, the umbarin fleet in isn't so huge and good, maybe you should sending the fleet with a strong army or trying to push them piece by piece exploring your cavalry to beat them easily and recruiting a bunch of pikes to beat both Khand and Harad cav.
Forget about the fleet, the op umbarin fleet finnaly arrived and destroy your fleet.
There is no choice instead pushing against Umbar, however you won't have a regicide, at least the leader or the heir is in Gobel Mirlond or in the other city to the south of the Harnen mouth.
going ham with the DA episodes. i like it. keep up the good work
This was unexpected
3:07 for a quality meow in the background
LionheartX10 is still playing this campaign(V3), but started the way you had planned(fight along the coast amd take Umbar) and now he is heading into mordor. It was a though campaign but that depends on the way you play it.
If your ships were attacked and you lost your whole army there, it would have been a serious struggle as well
Especially with Imrahil AND Adrahil dead:D
I think that the opening message for harad needs updating it still speak of the fact that they have allied with old umbar and the leaders name is also outdated. Anyway keep up the good videos
Good as always!
I've noticed that in V4 onwards heavy cavalry has a tendency to mess up their charge, the first ranks fly off towards the enemy while the rear sloppily makes their way eventually. I was furious when Gandalf did what Imrahil did to you here for the first couple of times :P
As i'm aware, this is the issue with Dac all the time and possibly the Mediaval itself, no change in this upate afaic.
Infantry in med 2 does this fairly frequently, though I don't know that I've seen cav do it.
This only happens if cav is too close to the unit they are about to charge or if its not a clean charge, eg you may have touched another unit before you charge
I would like a Skyrim(lotr modded)
Playthrough later on if possible.
Love your content!(and your cat!)
Hi :), a small observation...if rushing Umbar is the only way to survive as Dol Amroth, doesn't this kinda defeat the purpose of the corsair invasion script, since, if you win the campaign you don't even see his activation?
I mean it does something, it works like a soft timer, but I don't know if it is what your team intended
Thank you and tour team for your superb work on the mod!
I love your videos!!!! I was wondering what are you considering for your next lore video, why not make Morgoth and Sauron: their relationship to one another (from the initial seduction to Sauron taking Morgoth's place in Middle-Earth) and how their notion of evil is different (Morgoth being more about destruction while Sauron being more od domination and order).
Galu, after experiencing the struggles of the campaign, do you have any intentions of buffing Dol Amorth in the early game? I love the faction but you can’t win the campaign conventionally
Mariners. Mariners everywhere
So how long until you send your diplomat to get more trade rights?
hey. i don't know if you realized but there is a rebel army between dol amroth and methrast where the destruction is show on land
I'm a bit scared by Galu's bloodthirsty Alan Bennett voice...
I was wondering and following in a big curiosity how you gonna manage it without rushing to Umbar. It is level 5 difficulty in that way (if game is VH). But I am disappointed unfortunately.
In my campaign, trying to build up after defeating the AA was a mistake. Khand has 4 full stacks at turn 41 near Linhir. It's gonna get bloody, but thats how I like it, let them come! :D
Especially with pikes at the gates:D that way the only thing thats going to be bloody are the swords and spears of your men;)
I think that Wardens of the White tower should get new sprites since the current one has blue capes
Galu: This game is sooo easy, like there is no challenge AT ALL. Also, Dol Ameoth is easily a 1 on the difficulty scale. We should also gift the AI a full doomstack on turn one on any difficulty.
Galu: *actually faces a serious challenge* Also Galu: 😦
Whilst the spirit of your comment is, on the whole, correct, I didnt say Dol Amroth was super easy and I ranked it as a 3.
I know it would be better to write this on discord or ModDB, but I'm currently playing a Dol Amroth SA campaign and going to conquer the whole map....
A problem I have is facing high-armour tier people like High Elves or Dwarves because I have no armour piercing troops that are available everywhere...On the whole roster of them are only 2 AP units and they come onl from Gondor.
It would be nice to give them some crossbows or an axe unit instead of the seaward footmen...
Thx for all the enjoyable content especially in those times
Greetings
Your cavalry should do the trick. Charges partially or entirely ignore armour, I think. If that's not enough, consider adding artillery.
The southern front is so unfair, it is Gondor and Dol`Amroth against Mordor, Khand, Harad and AA.
Just because some people cheese the game and go for the capitals via ships it doesn`t t mean the game is easy, it means that you just exploited an AI limitation.
Yeah, Galu could put in a script that spawns a 20 elite army with end game units to stop Umbar sniping, but that still doesn`t address the inability to enjoy a proper campaign of slowly pushing enemy away until you reach their capital by land.
You know what ? That would actually work, have a script active for 50 turns that protects Finobel and Umbar with a ridiculous spawn stack but in turn leave way more room for Dol`Amroth and Gondor to get land into Harandor.
I, for one, would have liked to have a normal campaign with both Gondor and Dol`Amroth but the only viable strategies are sniping Umbar with DA and Minas Morgul with Gondor.
Rushing minas ithil isnt abusing the ai, its easily achieved even with house rules like giving the ai 10 turns before you do anything and having max 1 general per army. When playing dol amroth, just take a more defensive approach for the first 60 turns if you dont want to rush capitals, build town halls for free upkeep and use the forts, so you can afford large enough armies to defend. Use archers in the settlements and have your melee units in the forts. If they siege you, first you attack with the army thats in the city. You shoot until you have no arrows left and then retreat behind the walls. Make sure the gates are closed and ALL units are inside the walls. Now just end the battle. It will be a draw. You can do that every turn once. Now that you have weakend the besieging army use your units in the fort to finish them off. Once you reach turn 60, you will be able to recruit your swan knights and other elite cav units and the campaign is won. Ez.
Of course thats only if you are not as experienced as certain players may be. If you are a very good player you can also just straight up beat them in a 'normal' playstyle
@@kowo7795
Thanks for the tips but aren't they a bit too cheesy ?
I mean baiting the AI in sieges and expanding all your arrows and than repeat it again ?
Yeah, the fort idea is good, you can also force bridge battles like Galu.
But the fact that he just put more than 10.000 troops on one or two boats and went straight for Umbar speaks volumes.
I am sure he might be able to use your defensive strategy but that wouldn't be very entertaining.
Thanks again for the tips.
Some of us are simply too busy with work and stuff to keep our TW edge sharp.
Dol Amroth is the hardest campaign in the game.
ND is harder. DA really isnt because you have great defensive locations and cav bodyguards
Where can I read about the possible events/scripts
Arachir I would like some insight into the Northern Dunedain, are they meant to be hard or am I just bad at the mod? Any response is appreciated.
I would suggest rushing the orcs of the misty mountain and knock them out of the game. And try to stay out of dunlands way and let Bree fight with them so you can kill angmar together with the dwarves
They are pretty hard depending on your playstyle. I like to completly overstretch, that way it becomes really hard. Taking Fornost and Annuminas isnt wort it imo. At least not immediatly. I always send everything i got against the OoM, taking OstinEdhil, West Moria and the other settlements except for Zagh Khala, because thats usually when their last stand army spawns and i dont want to waste my units against that. Then i sell all eregion provinces for like 10-20k each to the high elves, and west moria to the dwarves for like 30-35k. That way you are well of for your upcoming campaigns against Angmar, Dunland etc. And try to always keep your dunedain archers alive. At any cost. Never waste them, if they are about to be attacked in a battle i often rather retreat than losing them.
So I’ve downloaded third age version 4.5 yesterday and I tried playing the game, for the first 20 turns it was ok but then when I fought in a battle (Kazak Dûm west) my game would crash and say “unspecified error” I don’t know how to fix it and I would love some help p.s I tried uninstalling and re downloading the mod and deleting maps.rwm from the file none of this seems to be working :(
Is it just that battlemap?
Make sure UAC is disabled when you play and disable windows automatic time change management.
you do have a huge advantage over khand when fighing seige battles since their cavalry will be mostly useless, especially in the early game. i was hoping to see more of a territory by territory expansion, and you can also consider sacking their cities and then just moving on to the bigger prizes.
Should the province of Umbar really have full sightrange ? Doesn't the idea that Umbar arrives from the far far south collide with the concept only long standing nations have watchtowers ?
Numenoreans built umbar over 4000 years ago. I think they'd have left a decent tower network.
@ Sure, the city is old but also inhabited by haradhrim and corsairs for a few thousand years if memory serves, so there would most likely be decay, just like seen in Annuminas or Fornost which are just as old as Umbar.
But you're the creator of the mod and the whole team did a fantastic job. This is a really minor "disagreement" over self proclaimed rules.
*Commits small scale genocide*
"Keep the tax rate low, I would like to hang on to Umbar cause it's a really well developed city . . . and it earns good money . . ."
You are really channeling your inner colonialist in this playthrough
Why does the Umbar Haven building disappear when you capture it?
Because it is unique to the Ardunaim (and the High Elves have their version of it).
Any other faction will destroy the building upon capturing Umbar, leaving only the ruins of the once mighty port.
@@MadsBoldingMusic i think thats only the case if you sack/exterminate, if you just occupie it stays (not 100%sure about that)
@@kowo7795 That merits a test! My current playthrough may be Dakian, but now I feel determined to pay Umbar a relatively peaceful visit!
Uuuuuh, maybe if the AI does its usual capital-switcheroo, I will be able to buy Umbar for obscene amounts of money (from the newly conquered Sea of Rhun).
More on this to come!
someones been watching Community
By extermianting you destroyed the unique tier 4 port :(
glad to be first on this campaign vid
So... The point of playing Dol Amroth, is to cheese the game? No idea why you guys set it like this... Think you should make an Umbar script, this sucks big time.
You don't have to cheese the game. Also, is taking out a factions capital by naval invasion really cheesing?
@ Emmm... HELLOOO?
The constant mock of AI in the game and how "easy" it is, yet you do everything possible to make it easier on yourself. Taking out capital is not cheesing, but knowing what it does, is. I just don't get it, but fine, your decision and ill just skip Dol Amroth serie, as this now became really boring one.
Kitty Cam!
Yup, Dol Amroth sooooooo easy.
Oh, but you said that Dol Amroth is so freaking easy to play. 4th part already and you are talking about losing the campaign. Wow.
I see you casually ignoring the part where I said I was wrong...