TOTAL RIP-OFF? 5 Solar Myths Busted! | ØY33
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Artisan are now facing redundancies. Rumour has it the company was scammed by a person claiming to be from Curry's. I don't know how you can live with yourself Cory!
Great video, very entertaining and informative. Keep smashing it and make St Even Age proud :D
😂😂 thanks mate
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Great vid Cory and loving the educational sections - saves a lot of googling! Just had the same 3-phase fusebox board installed and it’s a beast - ready for future solar panels, battery and 3-phase car charger. More deep dive videos are defo needed and looking forward to the boat video.
Thanks Cory.
Another great video. Ground rod testing was very well explained by your friend. Thought the test rods might have been deeper, Rods here in the U.S are normally 8'.
Thought I saw Jordan behind you on the beach in the last shot.
Happy Holidays to you and all your Team. Thank you for all the great content this Year.
Thanks Cory for setting the benchmark for high quality instructional videos for solar work. As a fellow content creator in the solar and battery space, I have been inspired by your technique and have learnt some new tricks... particularly with respect to the UK electrical code (I'm based in Australia). Keep it up... I'll be watching and learning. PS. Maybe Wetherspoon need to revise their "no fired egg" policy on cooked breakfasts, or did you order the vegan option by mistake?
Thank for sharing so much content this year . Cory , it’s been great watching & learning + juicy educational goodness !! As apprentice sparky , look forward to more of your videos, ⚡️👊 🎄Happy Holidays 🎄
I’m not an electrician but I work very closely with them. I have always been very interested in the trade. I really really enjoy how you bring the theory into what you do. Bringing in experts in the field to help explain how things work. The quality of your channel is right up there. It’s rhetorical first thing I watch when it appears in my feed. Keep up the great work. Looking forward to the next one.
Thank you! 😁☀️⚡️
No idea how “rhetorical” made its way in there. Oops 😂 That should have said “it’s the first thing I watch when it appears in my feed”.
That's why he has nearly 100k subs in a matter of months. Other lads take years to reach where he is now. He's probably the best electrical content creator on here.
@@user-hr4lm2dc1wNo need to make a second post to correct your first: just edit and correct the first post!
Rhetorical, might be an efixx word of the week slipped in there😉
Thank you so much for that lecture about earthrod measuring. Next is how you measure a ground loop. ;). Great work!
Thankyou Cory. I know nothing about solar tech or being an electrician - yours was so informative. Learning lots
Glad it was helpful!
Love watching your videos, they appeal to me and I'm not an electrician, although I'd love to have solar and batteries in the future, Cory - "I'm not telling how much ballast I'm using! definitely not two bags of ballast then!!!
I'd feel a bit nervous if I had that setup that in a storm, especially by the coast that these would slide off the roof. Apart from the ballast is there anything that would stop this?
Just found this channel and already loving it. Great content and super funny but not patronising presentation. Double thumbs up. 😂. I'm just having roof solar fitted and the chimps who installed it mounted it east west on a south north roof. So, half the panels would never see the sun! Credit to the company, they have admitted the error and are returning to fix it. Consequently, this is a pertinent topic for me right now. Do please keep up the informative vids, and best of luck to you - you seem to be bucking the millenial trend and getting out there and doing it. Kudos. :-)
You smashed it with this video 🎯 well done ! 👏
Your videos make me laugh at all the dad jokes but behind that is some seriously awesome professional work. I feel i have learned a lot, thanks Cory! 👍👍
I appreciate that!
2:56 😂😂😂😂 love your humor, Cory!
Great video! Educational and amusing! Great job! 👍🙂
Awesome video as always Cory! Im a UK spark but moved to Canada, still enjoy watching your content to keep up with the times 😂
Another great video of Cory and his Dad Brian bonding over a solar install..
Nice one Cory, great video.
Just to confirm, I had a Wetherspoons brekkie this morning, and there was 2 fried eggs included 🍳🍳🤣🤣
The design is perfect. Exactly as I’d have designed it. Great video my friend. In the summer I suspect that is perfect, my advice… with that meter I’d avoid a feed in tariff and would instead opt to keep spinning it backwards and self consuming! Smart meters… when will the energy companies ever do something for you for free that benefits you? 😂
Great vid! Watched this prior to my solar course. Helped a lot, cheers Cory👍
Great to hear!
You must always "check all factory connections" on electrical equipment, whether domestic or commercial, as per the warning stickers on it. As the installer it's your responsibilty to torque them up correctly, and it's on you if they aren't, not the manufacturer.
Great video. Can’t wait to see the boat!
Another great video cory. I'm a has engineer and no idea why I watch a smelly spark but secretly I do enjoy your quality of work lol.. was the 15k including materials or labour only? You are a man with more knowledge than most sparks and you obviously have customers who are willing to pay for high quality work.. looking forward to the next video pal
Materials and Labour, no VAT as it’s not added on renewables! Thanks mate 💨 ⚡️
hi @corymac ,
great video I don't know why I didn't come across any of your content sooner since I've been searching for solar info from years nearly a decade ago.
as a retired installer I definitely not planning on getting start again but please don't blame me for keeping my knowledge updated.
I wanted to know 2 things:
-battery unit was mounted directly on a wooden based panel, isn't there any requirement to line it up with less combustible materials?
-your hi-vis jacket, that's an overseas brand isn't it, how did you manage to get one?
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Hi Cory how you put the wires in the conduit on the garage roof was on good idea because it stop rats biting the cables.keep up the good work and Have a very happy Christmas to you and you wife.
Great video Cory - I’d like to see more insights into your thought process when designing. Target export %, to balance efficiency vs cost, ROI, panel size etc. I know it’s not a huge consideration on a 5kW system but I bet you gave it some thought.
Also, getting banned from spoons in some achievement
Class content mate, always learning top quality stuff, so helpful as im only doing solar PV installs about a year now and only fully qualified a year, sparks from ireland.
You told us you had 600kg of ballast, and 12 panels, so are you using 50kg of ballast per panel to weight it down? 🤣🤣
I thought that, when Cory said "I'm not going to tell you how much weight you have to work that out for your install" I thought 2 bags of ballast per pod 25KG each thats 50KG LOL
Your customer was a great guy. Living nearby, I've located the property but I'll keep it quiet as I'm not a stalker 🤣🤣🤣
31:51 In Belgium this is to high .. regulations here A.R.E.I state it has to be lower or equal then 30 Ohms .. the one i did where usual 8 to 15ohm .. usually 2 or 3 rods ..
That was enjoyable, solar seems labour intensive and hard on the body. Allegedly Wetherspoons are having supply issues, so they serve up food missing items and hope you don't notice, good for a cheap pint and if you're a functioning alcoholic.
Thanks for the nice video. The best thing in learned is the reason buy a white van is that you can use it as a white board. Not sure if a black van would also suffice as a black board though ;)
- black vans work with paint pens, lol...
I has solar installed in 2011 paid for itself in fit payments by 2019 so now its earning me on the installation cost, for the past 4 years, 12% interest plus the electricity the panels generate generated for the past 12 years.
Paid for by the rest of us, you’re welcome.
Great content, very informative and enjoyable. Have the panel mounting tubs on the roof got drain holes in them. Full of rainwater they would collectively weight a ton?
They have drain holes 😊👍🏼
Another very interesting and informative and entertaining video Cory.
Mate one day you will get scouted for TV all day long mate. Merry Christmas mate.
hi cory ,you great electrician and you are a great example of reality vs text book .
Brian's comment to run to the other end so you could hear yourself made me choke on my coffee 😂. It's hard to call what we do work when you have good people on your crew.
So true! 🤣🤣🤣
Would always use concrete slabs ballast not something that can be dissolved over time
Oh my goodness Cory I nearly missed this. I'll have to warch some now and some later...here we go...
Edit: well I caught up, I love how you manage to educate and inform your fellow electricians without being boring and raising a chuckle. That was fascinating about the earth rod impedence test (hope I've got that right!).
As a lay person I have a question...were those mounting buckets really only held down with a couple of bags of ballast? No other protection from the wind..and dont they fill up with water? On the one hand it would lend extra weight but on the other hand there would be extra weight on the roof. I'm interested because I have a small flat roof which might take a few panels one day. Think I'd want to have some sort of bar across the roof and going over the side to be fixed under the edge. Fix the buckets to that so the wind has to not only pick up the weighted buckets but the roof as well!
Very enjoyable video, thanks Cory 👍
Legend 👊🏽
That was so much appreciated Cory. I've only had theoretical knowledge up to this point and seeing the practical side answered so many questions. On to the silly question: Does a solar install need to be commissioned and certified by a qualified professional?
I appreciate the price info, I am considering a ground based system and any indication of price will help weed out the charlatans.
Great content and very useful to understand the price! How long roughly would it have taken if you were doing that job in one go? Be good to understand that vs the price charged
Nice video Cory. Price is competitive, no scaffolding but did you do the duct trenching? I was thinking of sticking 4-6 panels up on a bit of flat roof on the south side of my place to get a better chance of filling the batteries for longer in the year. I’ll let you know once it’s on the cards. Have a good Christmas, Ian
Ian I’ll come work for you anytime if you have those fantastic sausage rolls again. I’m only a text away!!!
top video Cory as always, enjoyed that. Keep it going.
Thanks Mark!! 👍
thats the first i've heard of panels being mounted like that, as long as it works and stays put.
Thr customer was awesome, quite humorous
We agree!
Yeah the customer was legend!
Not squeamish about doing what must be done to get cabling through either. Tiles? Cut them. Underground ducts? Splice them.
Hi Cory great video 👍 , watched all of it without skipping any , just one question, did it require planning permission to have them on that flat roof ?
There is a rule change for solar panels from 21/12/23 as that as long as you do not exceed 0.6m above the flat roof (excluding the height of the chimney if present) it falls under permitted development in England anyway. See The Town and Country Planning (General Permitted Development etc.) (England) (Amendment) (No. 2) Order 2023
However not all properties have Permitted Development rights, conservation areas may require further permissions/restrictions, so do your own checks. Rules may also be different in the devolved nations.
@@sjdiy8230 thanks for the info much appreciated 👍
Just finally finished off getting my G98 paperwork for a self installed battery/inverter setup. Running off delicious 9p/kwh all day. Installed it in such a way that when I can be bothered to call a spark to wiring it up legitimately so I can get the EIC and part P stuff done if/when Octopus make their non MCS export system less expensive and more tried and tested.
What qualifications did you put on your G98 ?
@@grahamdaniel6035 I put the electrical installation NVQ 2 qualifications (U1012231 and U1012232) I got back in college donkeys ago, but you can just put N/A Self Installed if you don't have any.
That's what basically everyone else has done when self installing.
It's important to remember that they are not asking that question to check the quality of installation, cause even qualified sparks can do some god awful work. But they want notification of what's hanging off the end of their service head so they know who to talk to about the installation, and so they can plan network upgrades in the future.
If they know they know how many homes can dump power onto the grid, they might have to limit new people applying down to a lower maximum export, or spend big money increasing capacity so you don't get those homes backfeeding the substation.
Thanks for the info 🙏 - Are you bonding the Garage grounding electrode to the house earthing rod?
I have serious doubts and mixed feelings about this subject as I have long distances between the generating area, the solar compartment and the house & outside buildings and in the event of lightening striking the soil in the area, there could be a vast differential of potential between the two grounding electrodes and we don't need that much of an imagination to see what could happen 😍 Have you been wondering that too ?
This was so good thanks for sharing can I ask where you got the flat roof mounting trays from please
Renusol! ( from Callidus wholesale, tell them I sent you and they’ll sort you a good price )
I was in Wetherspoons earlier there for lunch earlier. There was a breakfast menu on the table that shows a cooked breakfast with a fried egg. I have a photo of the menu if you want it?
118.5 ohms, jfc. We need to get the reading below 10 ohms where I live. And you don't need any special equipment, metrel can measure earth rod resistance with the spikes the same way
BRIAN IS A TOP CUSTOMER #HARDGRAFTER... KEEP IT UP BIG CORY MAC... One question was the ballast enough to sit in the buckets to keep the weight or did you fix them to the roof?
Bryan is the man!! They’re weighted down only 👍🏼👍🏼⚡️
Thanks!
Surely if you have the inverter connected to the mains supply for charging when there’s no sun then it’s technically still a TNS/TNCS system with a redundant copper rod in the ground?
Surprised you haven’t used a duct grade data cable. Great video none the less
Top tip for you now Cory, pull the blue rope from the middle and you don’t end up with that mess you had 🤣
You should totally bring Brian along on future jobs. He has plenty of good ideas.
What exactly do you mean with the "German" System? Here in Germany most Households do have a three phase supply but then the power should also be distributed as evenly as possible. There are also some old houses with single Phase Power, but not many.
Eggcellent video Cory thanks .
Do the solar panel trays have drain holes? (I guess they do otherwise retained water would be tremendously heavy). Great vid as I have just had solar edge fitted ( in roof but no battery) so was able to tick off the same stuff my fitter did. Thanks
They do indeed!
Great video good content and educational nice one 👍😎
Keswick is about an hour from me but if you ever want a wetherspoons next time your in Cumbria we have 2 here in Carlisle
Another nice one, Cory!👌
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great installation , keep up the good work
Thanks 👍
£15k for a 12 panel with 10kw battery is very reasonable considering you also fitted a 3 phase board and used the pv ultra
Thanks mate 👍. The customer did help, cooked a delicious dinner every day, and it was only down the road, which helped!
There's an egg shortage so Spoons have taken eggs off the menu in some locations, certainly in my local one - Portsmouth
Great vid as ever what’s the best qualification to go for first solar pv or battery storage as moneys tight in Jan🤦🏻
I’d say PV first mate :)
The battery storage one is a total scam imo
@@corymac 🤣🤣
What angle are those panels? I thought 30deg from horizontal was optimum for grid connect? How do you work out the spacing between rows to prevent shading with low winter sun?
32:00 Here in our area in Texas we have to install two 8' rods for each install. 🤠👍
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Sounds like hard work! But I guess it’s a way bigger space with bigger distances
Done the same job, same ballast used, only used a catenary wire drill hole top of bucket from left to right attached to the wall plate on each side.
Shame YT does not like a link, I would upload a picture
Not a bad idea at all
@@corymac o and the "same as the video" buckets, have ribs also added a squirt expanded foam on 2 ribs, it was the same on the coast, the roof would never hold 5 bags per bucket 30 panels system. 12kw system
Can you install a solar edge inverter and panel optimisers with an existing solar system or do the panels need to be solar edge also?
Any reason you don’t put the modbus meter at the supply head end, modbus is digital and designed to run over many metres so I would have thought you’d be less likely to get wonky readings with the meter at the supply end?
my argument for anything is if you want to learn something new you just have too do some research easy in the world of youtube and the internet. set a side some time and just do it. you will cock something up but thats were the learning is. i have learnt many things in my time by just doing it. i wanted some of that free energy so i spent several days designing and installing solar on my shed due to the size of the shed i had to use 60w panels but it generates 40 to 60w in winter and on a good day pushing 600w. will it payback anythime soon probally not but the knowledge i gained cant put a price on it.
Great install video Cory. The Witherspoons manager did you a favour by banning you. I'm just surprised you were brave enough to order food there.
Are you still working in Portsmouth? I would recommend trying Spinnaker Cafe in old Portsmouth for a breakfast, it’s lovely! Might bump into you at some point as I work in Portsmouth as a sparks
What did you use to make the tubes watertight again??
Watching the amount of work required for the install of the panels I was trying to guess the cost. It did seem quite high so the payback time in electricity would be very long.
Hi Cory,
Do you ever just install the batteries and inverter without the solar panels to allow storage at a cheap rate, with the option to install solar panels in the future?
Would this system allow just the batteries to be connected?
Thanks for your videos, Chris (sparks in the East Anglia).
Octopus are now offering SEG Smart Export Guarantee Tariff for non MCS approval. May be good for customers that can't afford a battery. YT wont allow me to put a link, but all you need is to be a customer, have a smart meter and £250 upfront cost for SEG approval. Worth considering for non MCS installers/customers.
i have solar power installed at my house, it was installed before I moved in. How on earth do i use the power that's been collected by the solar panels lol...
Great job & a great video. & yes you should of had fried eggs.
Do you need an EICR before any solar installation?
20:41 Was that the _John Herbert_ character with the walker from the Simpsons I saw in the background of that shot Cory ? Hmm...
Interesting title😊. 50 for off grid system I can understand .
Hi Cory,
Getting lots of people asking for off grid what other system other than victron would you use ?
Cant wait for the off grid boat!
Victron, and looking into Sunsynk / Deye!
@corymac thanks appreciate it, keep up the good work
These plastic tubs are a bad solution. Because every tub can move separatly it needs way more ballast to stay in place. Also the panels heat up more because lack of airflow behind them and will generate less power.
I dont think there is enough ballast there - did you used the Renusol PV-Configurator?
You’re correct Cory Wetherspoons say “Tuck in to our traditional breakfast of fried egg, bacon, sausage, baked beans, two hash browns and a slice of toast - or our large breakfast with two fried eggs, bacon, two sausages, baked beans, three hash browns, mushroom, two slices of toast. A small breakfast is also available.”
Think I would go for solar water heating, that's got to save a lot on energy costs.
Cory, where did you get the document holder, can't even find a decent one on Amazon?
I would be so worried about those panels just sitting on a tray. Not necessarily from taking off but even sliding off the roof over time.
- me too - I would be happier (if it were my install) if the trays were fixed to stringers of some kind (even if avoiding/minimising roof penetrations)... Seeing they were only ballasted with ? 40kg " - and were fairly easy to move around.
The trays seem a fairly simple way to achieve a few degrees of tilt angle...
nice one .proper job fair price Defo helpfull.
Thanks 👍. The customer did help, cooked a delicious dinner every day, and it was only down the road, which helped!
More aziiiiimuth chat! 😂 Great vid.
Great video Cory ! Terrific job on the install. Really like that you went for thick 16mm cable. The console tubs are an interesting solution to tilting the panels. My panels were tilted with aluminium legs and frames. I think I like my aluminium tilts better, because I'm in a cyclone prone area and I like things bolted down.
I love my solar which was installed in Aug-2023: solar panels on my roof and a grid tied inverter (no lithium batteries for me). This was my 3rd solar panel installation, each at a different property. Also have an old Solar Hot Water System (HWS) on my roof - which produces more than enough hot water for my needs, even after days of overcast / rainy weather. My power bills have turned into credits, and I now get free electricity and make around $100 per month tax free - a whopping 25% Return on Investment (ROI). It's like having a piggy bank on my roof. Highly recommend others do this if they can. Use a reputable, quality installer - like Cory, and always do your research first.
You are what my father would have called a clever lad. It was as close to a compliment as he ever paid. I too think you a clever lad.... Very entertaining. Cheers from a very old fellow in Canada. ~ulrich
Surely with the earth electrode the critical thing is to measure the resistance back to the substation earth to ensure that there is a sufficiently low loop resistance to ensure safe disconnection. Surely it would be better to measure between the new electrode and the incoming PME earth, or just do a loop test using the new , disconnected electrode. What you appear to have done here is to measure its connectivity to the customer's lawn, which may be in the opposite direction and with different soil conditions. As well as wasting time with the temporary probe placements. And advertising a non-essential piece of kit.
This is the proper method to carry out the test, with the process, and equipment as per Guidance Note 3. For a deeper dive into why, and how it works, feel free to check it out for yourself in GN3, and whilst you’re there, also Guidance Note 8. Thanks for watching! 🙏🏼
@@corymac Thanks Cory. Of course the main thing is to ensure a good path between protective casings and the nearby ground (Timmy's Terra?) to minimise error potential. The loop resistance is to ensure safe disconnection of the fault. Perhaps the regs place too much emphasis on the loop resistance, causing us to forget other things. Such as neutral connections.
Why was it necessary to install 3 phase?
Thanks
Hey Cory, Great video! I've got 2 questions:
Does the solar edge work in the absence of mains power (off-grid) powering the house? Does it need any special external box? I've got the Huwaei system, and it doesn't work in island mode without an extra box called the backup box, apart from that looks like a very similar system.
Hey! Thanks.
It does work off grid yes, you’d need the home hub add on
Thanks for that @@corymac . So essentially the same concept, buy another box to do that. From what I understand the complexity comes from synching the phase to the grid, as opposed to generating it's own sin wave and the switchover when the power does come back. On another note it would be interesting to see some videos on home wind turbine stuff. I'm especially interested in how it would be able to go on an MPPT of a solar inverter.
@@pteichner - wind tends to use a different charge controller compared to solar - diverts to a bump load (water heater or air cooled resistor)..
@@kadmowso not optimal for charging a battery?
Wont those box like things to angle then need screwing down ?, did i miss that bit ?, also wont they fill up with water
They’re ballasted, and they have drain holes 😄
These SolarEdge optimisers seem to have a very poor lifetime. Seen failures within a year on about 15 installations this year 😮😮
I’ve not found that personally, I’ve not had a single failure in the last two years I’ve installed them, but I’m only a small company I guess.
install a trailing earth cable in the trench and clamp it to your new earth rod
Amazing video and really nice explanation of everything you do . Great job 👌. And the kinda stupid question of the day,which trousers exactly you got? Seems like jeans buu they look really nice and with many pockets.