❤ I appreciate Athen 's courageousness that has been steadfast on true sidereal astrology 🙏🏽for years. More channels are coming into awareness on it lately. Truth wills out! Peace.
Also, I wanted to say that I definitely see the earth energies in you... the Taurus and Capricorn... Your branding has all these warm and earthy colors so you come across earthy and grounding. 🙂
Please keep in mind that the sidereal Kalender has also a 13th zodiac sign that belongs to the ecliptic which is called (Ophiuchus). The tropical calendar comes from ptolemy,,, grounding it at Aries leaving the procession of equinox out.
This was an interesting conversation! I checked my true sidereal (TS) chart and it's actually similar and close to my tropical because of "cross references". E.g. in tropical I have Libra Sun and Virgo Moon, in TS Virgo Sun and Leo Moon. So my Virgo Moon becomes Virgo Sun. In my tropical chart Sun, Mercury, Venus and Uranus are in Libra, 6th house. In TS I have these planets in Virgo, 5th house. So the 6th house planets in tropical become Virgo in TS, which is kind of like the same because the 6th house is associated with Virgo. Also, as an example: SN-NN in my tropical are Leo-Aquarius, 4th-10th house. In TS it's Cancer-Capricorn, 3rd-9th house. I have always felt this energy because the 4th-10th house axis is basically the Cancer-Capricorn axis. ;-) So I resonate with the TS chart. What I find interesting is that the AC-DC changes to Taurus-Scorpio in TS... and in relationships I have resonated more with Sagittarius people than Scorpios, whom I find more challenging... But in TS I have Chiron in Pisces (instead of Aries) which apparently makes more sense to me. Also in tropical I have had difficulty with making sense of my Mars, NN and MC in Aquarius... These move to Capricorn and 9th house in TS which resonates. So 9 planets/points move to Earth signs from Air. 😀
You pressed „true siderial“ on genetic matrix. When i do that, the profile stay exactly the same like in siderial on that page. But wehen i go to Cosmic HD i get a total different profile then „true siderial“ on genetic matrix. What going on there? Did you put a specific ayanamsha? Greatful for a respond. W.S
Yes the true sidereal in genetic matrix is not working correctly. I made a few other videos about this - what adjustments you need to make with the svp
Hi Analena! Is there a reason you used geneticmatrix calculation for true sidereal chimenti rather than the cosmic human design website? I’d love to know since for me it shows different charts, thank you!
Hi there! Yes the True Sidereal that you can select in GM does not seem to be correct. When I use mine I do use a manual adjustment in the settings so it is like the cosmic HD version. And I like the visual presentation of GM so much better, it's easier to read.
@@moodofpentacles yes under "Settings" -> "Astro HD Sidereal Chart Settings" for the Ayanamsha you select "User defined SVP" and then enter 31.72 in the field below. Now that number is not 100% correct for all birth years - the moon and variables are the ones that are off the quickest. It's very important to reference check with the Cosmic HD site I think. I did cover this in more detail in a Masterclass yesterday called "Integrated - Blending Tropical & True Sidereal" - if you are interested I can send the link.
@@analenafuchs I'd love this link as well! Actually in Genetic Matrix, Vernal point of 3.72 is for younger people. Older ones need 3.71 (that's me, I was born in 1954). Then you the get exactly the same results than on Cosmic Human Design. With Genetic Matrix you certainly have more details though.
So you're saying we're in the 11th house which is Aquarius which started around the time of the Industrial Revolution which was felt in the 1840s. I thought the houses were determined by the time of day and not lasting for years? How can we be in the 11th house now for that many years? Confused. Then the actual Age of Aquarius doesn't start for another 700 years. That is based on the precession of the equinox. According to that we're still in the Age of Pisces and 30 degrees in. What's the difference between saying we're in the 11th house which is Aquarius and then saying the Age of Aquarius starts in 700 years? Some important spiritual teachers are saying it's officially starting in 2025. This part of the conversation was from 00:24 to 00:25 so very short. The rate of precession is one degree every 72 years = 0.838 minutes per year. How does one get to 700 more years with this calculation? So I guess according to this calculation we're only 10 degrees away from this change of signs into Aquarius. If someone reading this could clarify or even Athen himself, thanks.
@@alohaspirit1506please share your insights with me too! I also got a but confused in that piece of conversation but I think is a matter of a couple of hiccups in the explanation resulting in us (or me at least) misunderstanding 😅
@@milena9830 I saw your message a few days ago and meant to reply, but it slipped my mind-apologies for the delay. Here’s my take on it now. Unfortunately, I don't have much more to add. I thought I had made some notes, but I can’t seem to find them. I guess I reached a conclusion in my mind that made sense to me personally. I initially listened to this because I was curious about Sidereal astrology, but I’ve decided to stick with Tropical astrology-the more commonly used system. The houses, in particular, are what confuse me the most, and that’s what mixed me up too in their conversation. I’m still learning as I go. Also, I realized I gave you the wrong timestamps earlier. They actually discuss this topic around 23 to 25 minutes in. If you’re looking for more insights, David Palmer, also known as The Leo King, is an excellent astrologer to follow. He mentions that the Age of Aquarius officially begins in 2043! I hope this helps clarify things a bit more.
The constellations are not the signs. Ancient Tropical astrology is based on the planets and the the homes (signs) they are assigned to reflect their yang/masculine or yin/feminine expression.
❤
I appreciate Athen 's courageousness that has been steadfast on true sidereal astrology 🙏🏽for years.
More channels are coming into awareness on it lately.
Truth wills out!
Peace.
fascinating conversation !
Also, I wanted to say that I definitely see the earth energies in you... the Taurus and Capricorn... Your branding has all these warm and earthy colors so you come across earthy and grounding. 🙂
Thanks for sharing Barbara! :)
Please keep in mind that the sidereal Kalender has also a 13th zodiac sign that belongs to the ecliptic which is called (Ophiuchus).
The tropical calendar comes from ptolemy,,, grounding it at Aries leaving the procession of equinox out.
The regal elegance of Capricorn combined with the grounded beauty of Taurus reflects so well in your aura from my perspective.
Thank you!!
This was an interesting conversation! I checked my true sidereal (TS) chart and it's actually similar and close to my tropical because of "cross references". E.g. in tropical I have Libra Sun and Virgo Moon, in TS Virgo Sun and Leo Moon. So my Virgo Moon becomes Virgo Sun. In my tropical chart Sun, Mercury, Venus and Uranus are in Libra, 6th house. In TS I have these planets in Virgo, 5th house. So the 6th house planets in tropical become Virgo in TS, which is kind of like the same because the 6th house is associated with Virgo. Also, as an example: SN-NN in my tropical are Leo-Aquarius, 4th-10th house. In TS it's Cancer-Capricorn, 3rd-9th house. I have always felt this energy because the 4th-10th house axis is basically the Cancer-Capricorn axis. ;-) So I resonate with the TS chart. What I find interesting is that the AC-DC changes to Taurus-Scorpio in TS... and in relationships I have resonated more with Sagittarius people than Scorpios, whom I find more challenging... But in TS I have Chiron in Pisces (instead of Aries) which apparently makes more sense to me. Also in tropical I have had difficulty with making sense of my Mars, NN and MC in Aquarius... These move to Capricorn and 9th house in TS which resonates. So 9 planets/points move to Earth signs from Air. 😀
You pressed „true siderial“ on genetic matrix. When i do that, the profile stay exactly the same like in siderial on that page.
But wehen i go to Cosmic HD i get a total different profile then „true siderial“ on genetic matrix. What going on there? Did you put a specific ayanamsha? Greatful for a respond. W.S
Yes the true sidereal in genetic matrix is not working correctly. I made a few other videos about this - what adjustments you need to make with the svp
Here is the video: ua-cam.com/video/sj0aQ2IloYE/v-deo.htmlsi=gp7Uv39i8A46yS0B
When doing my chart should I go by my birthday or my human design date
Hi Analena! Is there a reason you used geneticmatrix calculation for true sidereal chimenti rather than the cosmic human design website? I’d love to know since for me it shows different charts, thank you!
Hi there! Yes the True Sidereal that you can select in GM does not seem to be correct. When I use mine I do use a manual adjustment in the settings so it is like the cosmic HD version. And I like the visual presentation of GM so much better, it's easier to read.
@@analenafuchs oh I thank you, can you share what is the manual adjustment you do?
@@moodofpentacles yes under "Settings" -> "Astro HD Sidereal Chart Settings" for the Ayanamsha you select "User defined SVP" and then enter 31.72 in the field below. Now that number is not 100% correct for all birth years - the moon and variables are the ones that are off the quickest. It's very important to reference check with the Cosmic HD site I think. I did cover this in more detail in a Masterclass yesterday called "Integrated - Blending Tropical & True Sidereal" - if you are interested I can send the link.
@@analenafuchs I'd love this link as well!
Actually in Genetic Matrix, Vernal point of 3.72 is for younger people. Older ones need 3.71 (that's me, I was born in 1954). Then you the get exactly the same results than on Cosmic Human Design.
With Genetic Matrix you certainly have more details though.
So you're saying we're in the 11th house which is Aquarius which started around the time of the Industrial Revolution which was felt in the 1840s. I thought the houses were determined by the time of day and not lasting for years? How can we be in the 11th house now for that many years? Confused. Then the actual Age of Aquarius doesn't start for another 700 years. That is based on the precession of the equinox. According to that we're still in the Age of Pisces and 30 degrees in. What's the difference between saying we're in the 11th house which is Aquarius and then saying the Age of Aquarius starts in 700 years? Some important spiritual teachers are saying it's officially starting in 2025. This part of the conversation was from 00:24 to 00:25 so very short. The rate of precession is one degree every 72 years = 0.838 minutes per year. How does one get to 700 more years with this calculation? So I guess according to this calculation we're only 10 degrees away from this change of signs into Aquarius. If someone reading this could clarify or even Athen himself, thanks.
you can get in contact with Athen via www.masteringthezodiac.com - on his site he also has further information and explanations on the topic.
@@analenafuchs Thank you so much. I think I kind of figured it out myself after writing that. I will take a look at his site for further explanations!
@@alohaspirit1506please share your insights with me too! I also got a but confused in that piece of conversation but I think is a matter of a couple of hiccups in the explanation resulting in us (or me at least) misunderstanding 😅
@@milena9830 I saw your message a few days ago and meant to reply, but it slipped my mind-apologies for the delay. Here’s my take on it now. Unfortunately, I don't have much more to add. I thought I had made some notes, but I can’t seem to find them. I guess I reached a conclusion in my mind that made sense to me personally. I initially listened to this because I was curious about Sidereal astrology, but I’ve decided to stick with Tropical astrology-the more commonly used system. The houses, in particular, are what confuse me the most, and that’s what mixed me up too in their conversation. I’m still learning as I go. Also, I realized I gave you the wrong timestamps earlier. They actually discuss this topic around 23 to 25 minutes in. If you’re looking for more insights, David Palmer, also known as The Leo King, is an excellent astrologer to follow. He mentions that the Age of Aquarius officially begins in 2043! I hope this helps clarify things a bit more.
The constellations are not the signs. Ancient Tropical astrology is based on the planets and the the homes (signs) they are assigned to reflect their yang/masculine or yin/feminine expression.