Everyone’s been worried about only 8 voices.. to me, if one section was a bass and one was and arp, you still have 6 voices for chords… it feels like enough to me in this regard.
@@mysticsailor9 shorten amp EG release, you don't need long tails from the synth, let reverb take care of the tails for you Or get an Ultranova, Gaia2, Virus, Fantom-0, or Krome EX instead.
@@Jason75913 have enough polyphony limited analog synths to know this technique.. and also to know the resulting sound is very different. Analog synths have cost reasons for their polyphony, digital ones notsomuch
Can you change the root note all together? Every demo is playing with C as the the root note. I'd like to see if it can play something like an F# minor scale and chords.
Interesting. I heard it’s 8 polyphony. That’s very tight and would mean lots of note cutoffs. I guess they really want a mono and a lead for two of the three layers. Need to see more fm modulation options and wavetable stuff. Could be tempted at 249. Not 499 or is it 399? It’s promising though. I’m sure a few updates and features can be added. Like vector synth and chaos
I agree, to an extent -- but not so much menu diving as menu changing, and that little screen has to be quite the chameleon. Still seems pretty educational though (for a new squirt like me). In just one day, the guy here was able to get right where he needed to be quickly and casually (in my opinion).
What is the point of these mini screen menu diving machines? You could do the same thing with a laptop with fraction of money. Why does’t anyone make playable knob per function versions out of these for us who like DAWless flow?
I don't get how this thing works from the video. Probably has to do w/ the menu diving you describe. Synths cheaper as this one with one function per knob are more fun. And playing a synth with a matrix of buttons? Pffffff. The horror, the horror! Look at how Jack plays this turd: do you see yourself doing that? And what good is the matrix if you connect a Midi keyboard to it?
I love Polyend and own Tracker Plus, Play Plus, and Tracker Mini. This little guy was an instant purchase, especially for $500 USD. Hopefully VAT doesn’t crush my friends on the other side of the Atlantic.
I have lots of inventory beyond that, “chief.” It’s what happens when you work for a living and you’ve been playing multiple instruments for over 40 years.
@@endoflevelboss Had a Montage 7 and sold it, same with the Blofeld. Also had a Stingray HH years ago. The only reason I mentioned my Polyend stuff is because I'm a fan of their gear - I personally can't think of anything more pathetic than gear dicksizing.
Jack really dogged the Roland AX-Edge lol. I think most people on UA-cam are reluctant to completely shit on a product because there’s always somebody out there that it might be perfect for, even if it’s not their bag. It’s really up to you to watch, consider the pros and cons, and decide if you like what it offers or not.
I have watched a bunch of videos, and one criticism is the CPU can get laggy when drawing the screen, and it might labor in other ways as well. Also, no audio-out via USB (not sure what that means), and the hardware inside looks to not even support that. Some folks are afraid Polyend will release the "Synth+" in 9 months and piss a lot of people off.
@@sutekh137 Quality USB audio is a standard feature in Roland gear. A few synths from other companies also output audio via USB. It's an extremely convenient feature to have.
Looks like a gimmicky toy. Sure it’s fun for an hour for £99 maybe, but hardly an instrument is it. Imagine this at band practise, “ok this one is C G Am F” Gimme 20 mins while I try and set this up…. I dread to think what they’re asking for this nonsense. And not really for bands I guess too
Or you know program scenes for all the songs before hand and then simply load them? It's not the synths fault if you don't understand how to logically use it.
@@AnywayHeresMyCleanTone You said band practice not jam, if you want to play random songs in the spur of the moment then buy something else. Not every device is gonna fit your requirements, that's not a negative.
@@AnywayHeresMyCleanTone Wouldn't you just use a keyboard for that then? To put it another way, what do you consider a good "take it out and jam" synth? Genuine question, no disrespect intended!
If Polyend would actually fix their existing models instead of replacing them with version 2s every year then maybe this would be something worth thinking about. Unfortunately they dgaf so no thanks
@mclarensmps, Illegitimate complaint. The Tracker was going strong for how many years with great firmware updates and support? The original Play likewise received updates and is still well supported by the manufacturer. The Play+ situation is not the company’s usual MO. More than likely the original was a compromise due to chip and material shortages that lasted most of 2020 and 2021. I’m not thrilled about it (as I bought the original Play when it first came out), but I do feel like the Play is worth every dollar (it’s a fantastic deal at $499 current price).
I was impressed by some of the Physical Model engine, but only because it was some of my first exposure to that, like a mallet bouncing off a bell.Otherwise, I see your point. Maybe a lot of sounds but not really stand-out at any one thing?
Dont get it- its just a synth… can do the same with mc707 or sh-4d with midi over same Channel or with a Keyboard split.yes it has other synthesis Like Wave etc but nothing special. Every force,Even without mockba, can do more…
MC-707 is far and away more than just a synth, and rightfully pricier. SH-4D is cute, but this Polyend Synth's sonic palette easily goes places that no Roland can. The Polyend sound quality is killer for a digital synth at its pricepoint.
Everyone’s been worried about only 8 voices.. to me, if one section was a bass and one was and arp, you still have 6 voices for chords… it feels like enough to me in this regard.
"barely enough" would be my take... 3 note chords with overlapping envelopes is 6 notes..so no room for 3 notes plus octave.
@@troycarson1 Yeah everyone is worried. My 80 year old Dad just called from his nursing home to say this shit is keeping him awake at night.
@@endoflevelbosstell him to shorten his decay
@@mysticsailor9 shorten amp EG release, you don't need long tails from the synth, let reverb take care of the tails for you
Or get an Ultranova, Gaia2, Virus, Fantom-0, or Krome EX instead.
@@Jason75913 have enough polyphony limited analog synths to know this technique.. and also to know the resulting sound is very different. Analog synths have cost reasons for their polyphony, digital ones notsomuch
just the demo i was looking for. very cool bit of kit!
Wow, this seems like a perfect allround synth and I’m impressed by the sound quality! Great price too! Might get this one!
Can you change the root note all together? Every demo is playing with C as the the root note. I'd like to see if it can play something like an F# minor scale and chords.
How does it compare to the Ableton Move?
The Move is the far better groovebox/workstation since the Synth is mainly about being just a synthesizer first and foremost.
Interesting. I heard it’s 8 polyphony. That’s very tight and would mean lots of note cutoffs. I guess they really want a mono and a lead for two of the three layers. Need to see more fm modulation options and wavetable stuff. Could be tempted at 249. Not 499 or is it 399? It’s promising though. I’m sure a few updates and features can be added. Like vector synth and chaos
Logically laid out, but seems like you have to do quite a lot of menu diving to craft the sounds
I agree, to an extent -- but not so much menu diving as menu changing, and that little screen has to be quite the chameleon. Still seems pretty educational though (for a new squirt like me). In just one day, the guy here was able to get right where he needed to be quickly and casually (in my opinion).
The synths seem to be designed to be controllable by 4x3 nobs…
Any instrument that you can throw your cat on and get good results is an automatic winner. 😂
What is the point of these mini screen menu diving machines? You could do the same thing with a laptop with fraction of money. Why does’t anyone make playable knob per function versions out of these for us who like DAWless flow?
What is the point about this guy?
I don't get how this thing works from the video. Probably has to do w/ the menu diving you describe.
Synths cheaper as this one with one function per knob are more fun. And playing a synth with a matrix of buttons? Pffffff. The horror, the horror! Look at how Jack plays this turd: do you see yourself doing that? And what good is the matrix if you connect a Midi keyboard to it?
Get an old Korg
@@meneerjansen00Bro, you too old school 😜
Just stick to Korg Volcas and Behringer synths. You need no others.
Just get a decent keyboard ,instantly playable
Bring the new synths to Tracker Plus thanks 🎉
That is a good price to be honest .
I don’t think this would be any good for me . I couldn’t even get my head around the Launchpad. 😂
audio over USB?
@@InRoB-Music doh, yes
Nope
Present...
2024
scaled-down access virus, TI
I like it ❤
Looks good, would be nice to have some drums on there to make it an all in on groove box.
The polyend play is basically this layout, but a groove box instead of a synth.
@ yeah but unfortunately twice the price. Ah well
@@Bokehstbuzzkillthey want you to get both. Which is fine I guess but they should have an exclusive way of combining them like Roland AIRA
I love Polyend and own Tracker Plus, Play Plus, and Tracker Mini. This little guy was an instant purchase, especially for $500 USD. Hopefully VAT doesn’t crush my friends on the other side of the Atlantic.
@@Teleken1968 Nice humble brag and casual walk through your inventory their chief.
I have lots of inventory beyond that, “chief.” It’s what happens when you work for a living and you’ve been playing multiple instruments for over 40 years.
@@Teleken1968 have a you got a Nord Electro 4HP, Yamaha SY77, Waldorf Blofeld and an Ernie Ball Stingray with 2 humbuckers?
@@endoflevelboss Had a Montage 7 and sold it, same with the Blofeld. Also had a Stingray HH years ago. The only reason I mentioned my Polyend stuff is because I'm a fan of their gear - I personally can't think of anything more pathetic than gear dicksizing.
@@Teleken1968Have you come across anything more intuitive (especially for beginners) than Polyend Play?
Ableton has some competition
Yellow, blue, GREEN?! Mine is purple instead of green.
That was apparently part of a firmware update.
does anyone ever dislike gear the manufacturer sends them? seriously. i don't mean "pros & cons" bcuz that's a cop-out. post the links in your reply.
Jack really dogged the Roland AX-Edge lol. I think most people on UA-cam are reluctant to completely shit on a product because there’s always somebody out there that it might be perfect for, even if it’s not their bag. It’s really up to you to watch, consider the pros and cons, and decide if you like what it offers or not.
I have watched a bunch of videos, and one criticism is the CPU can get laggy when drawing the screen, and it might labor in other ways as well. Also, no audio-out via USB (not sure what that means), and the hardware inside looks to not even support that. Some folks are afraid Polyend will release the "Synth+" in 9 months and piss a lot of people off.
@@sutekh137 Quality USB audio is a standard feature in Roland gear. A few synths from other companies also output audio via USB. It's an extremely convenient feature to have.
all these products i cant keep up, the g.a.s is compelling, what are novation saying about this, wow so much choice not enough money
You mean this versus Circuit Tracks and Circuit Rhythm? The Novations are grooveboxes, the Polyend Synth not so much by very far.
Looks like a gimmicky toy. Sure it’s fun for an hour for £99 maybe, but hardly an instrument is it. Imagine this at band practise, “ok this one is C G Am F”
Gimme 20 mins while I try and set this up….
I dread to think what they’re asking for this nonsense. And not really for bands I guess too
This is like if I complained that a saxophone wasn't suited for rock music...
Or you know program scenes for all the songs before hand and then simply load them?
It's not the synths fault if you don't understand how to logically use it.
you’ve clearly never jammed live with other humans in the same room, bless you
@@AnywayHeresMyCleanTone You said band practice not jam, if you want to play random songs in the spur of the moment then buy something else.
Not every device is gonna fit your requirements, that's not a negative.
@@AnywayHeresMyCleanTone Wouldn't you just use a keyboard for that then? To put it another way, what do you consider a good "take it out and jam" synth? Genuine question, no disrespect intended!
You guys should review the new Korg Grandstage X. There's no reviews on it
Korg is hot garbage. They fell off
@ Really? Even the SV2?
@The.Foolosopher I love my SV2 73 and ARP Odyssey.
I think the next step will be instruments with a full Daws on board. It would be much more hands on.👌
You mean like the mpc live 2
Like MPC Key 37?
"Scene, innit"? Trying to be down with the kids, Jack? 😛
Innit has been around since the late 80's bro.
@@DeeJay003 it was an ironic joke... Daddy-o.
Get hip.
Too bad you can't buy better humor so you can make jokes that are actually amusing.
If Polyend would actually fix their existing models instead of replacing them with version 2s every year then maybe this would be something worth thinking about. Unfortunately they dgaf so no thanks
Maybe you should check out all the updates on Backstage?
@@briannhinton Nah, whiners gonna whine
They did it for the play and that was shit, but what else have they come out with version 2s every year for?
Facts!
@mclarensmps, Illegitimate complaint. The Tracker was going strong for how many years with great firmware updates and support? The original Play likewise received updates and is still well supported by the manufacturer. The Play+ situation is not the company’s usual MO. More than likely the original was a compromise due to chip and material shortages that lasted most of 2020 and 2021. I’m not thrilled about it (as I bought the original Play when it first came out), but I do feel like the Play is worth every dollar (it’s a fantastic deal at $499 current price).
I'll buy that for a dollar😂
Haven't heard anything that sounds good out of this box yet, have watched all the videos of it.
I was impressed by some of the Physical Model engine, but only because it was some of my first exposure to that, like a mallet bouncing off a bell.Otherwise, I see your point. Maybe a lot of sounds but not really stand-out at any one thing?
Worst outro jam ever !
You aren't joking there, bro - sounded like they had 4 broken hands lol
@@DeeJay003 On three synths...'tis indeed tricky math! :) I didn't mind it, just having some fun with a synth they got 24 hours prior...
meh
More plastic junk.
No thanks. Just sold my circuit tracks
Dont get it- its just a synth… can do the same with mc707 or sh-4d with midi over same Channel or with a Keyboard split.yes it has other synthesis Like Wave etc but nothing special. Every force,Even without mockba, can do more…
Strange that you ignore all the clever features. Is it because you don’t need them personally?
MC-707 is far and away more than just a synth, and rightfully pricier.
SH-4D is cute, but this Polyend Synth's sonic palette easily goes places that no Roland can.
The Polyend sound quality is killer for a digital synth at its pricepoint.
Not feeling it