The Boys | 'You're My Greatest Failure'

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  • @tylerbushong3452
    @tylerbushong3452 Рік тому +4730

    “You should have been raised in a home with a family who loved you. Not in a cold lab with doctors.”
    That, right there, is the difference between Homelander and Superman.

    • @shevthegreb757
      @shevthegreb757 Рік тому +26

      Not true.

    • @SonicMegaKing
      @SonicMegaKing Рік тому +494

      Yeah, actually, it is. The fact is Superman had a good upbringing and that made him a good person who wouldn't abuse his power.

    • @tylerbushong3452
      @tylerbushong3452 Рік тому +364

      @@shevthegreb757Clark Kent would be the first one to tell you he wouldn’t be Superman without Jonathan and Martha Kent.

    • @shevthegreb757
      @shevthegreb757 Рік тому +13

      @@tylerbushong3452 brother he isn’t real

    • @shevthegreb757
      @shevthegreb757 Рік тому +31

      @@SonicMegaKing This was disproven by Red Son. Superman, despite having no parents, did have humanity. Superman has humanity, and it doesn’t come from his parents, but from who he came from. Though it’s pretty inconsistent and often times it usually depends on what the writer wants to tell.

  • @codyerickson3550
    @codyerickson3550 Рік тому +2111

    0:44 Homelander’s face right there is heartbreaking. He knows deep down inside that what he’s telling him is true

    • @kaynkayn9870
      @kaynkayn9870 Рік тому +122

      His acting is amazing. Holding back tears and acting strong, I know I can relate to that.

    • @TheStraightestWhitest
      @TheStraightestWhitest 7 місяців тому +41

      @@kaynkayn9870 Every single man on the planet can.

    • @leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259
      @leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 5 місяців тому +12

      He has the capacity to change though. Everyone can. Still, everything Vogelbaum said is true but it's all his fault so he has no right

  • @brainloading5543
    @brainloading5543 5 місяців тому +343

    Vaugelbaum's apology was the most sincere one because he wasn't scared nor threatened. He meant it.

    • @nk30020
      @nk30020 2 місяці тому +5

      It was all regret

  • @oliverlutz1392
    @oliverlutz1392 2 роки тому +4993

    Vogelbaum calling him John is the equivalent of dumbledore calling voldemort Tom

  • @devitaromlah2866
    @devitaromlah2866 2 роки тому +2360

    Doesnt matter how powerful you are. That words from your own father Will hurts you so much

    • @majormalarkey8342
      @majormalarkey8342 2 роки тому +135

      Lol this aged well

    • @Timbo360
      @Timbo360 2 роки тому +61

      Both of them too

    • @_pablo_dr_4546
      @_pablo_dr_4546 2 роки тому +267

      3 different father figures, exact same insult

    • @godzillaaa740
      @godzillaaa740 2 роки тому +41

      @@_pablo_dr_4546 of course , he's a disappointment

    • @Nemenis
      @Nemenis Рік тому +7

      @@_pablo_dr_4546 3? It’s 2 father figures right?

  • @robwalsh9843
    @robwalsh9843 2 роки тому +3640

    This is why the Kents were so important for Superman's character.
    Homelander is what would happen if Kal El was taken in by the government instead of two loving adoptive parents.

    • @teepstheartist1506
      @teepstheartist1506 2 роки тому +169

      It's happened before in the flashpoint paradox, the Kents had a popped tire, so they couldn't pick him up

    • @Lizard2176
      @Lizard2176 2 роки тому +153

      @@teepstheartist1506 yet in the flashpoint version, he was still a kind, albeit socially undeveloped person

    • @jugeas2786
      @jugeas2786 2 роки тому +60

      Clark would never have become what he is now without them, they are the best possible parents who tried to educate and protect him as best as possible, but also learn to use his abilities to good effect.

    • @signumxmagnum
      @signumxmagnum 2 роки тому +51

      @@jugeas2786 In flashpoint paradox, Kent was detained by the government and the kent couple never found him. Yet, in the end he still kind.

    • @dominiquejones3805
      @dominiquejones3805 Рік тому +3

      @@signumxmagnumI love when he said Friend 2 Cyborg

  • @coreytrevor1920
    @coreytrevor1920 Рік тому +601

    0:40 is one of my favorite moments from the show. You can see homelander agrees and is near crying but it’s impossible for him to give this credit or forgiveness to the guy who did this to him. What an amazing show

    • @ParagonOlsen
      @ParagonOlsen 8 місяців тому +39

      I think it's also become his coping mechanism from his extensive media training and exposure. Using humor or blind positivity to cover up moments of pain.
      Homelander knows he didn't turn out great, and how deep his problems run. But he feels powerless to better himself. Best he can do now is try to make Ryan better.

  • @eliaskhawaja6458
    @eliaskhawaja6458 6 місяців тому +710

    This hits differently after today's episode.

    • @robbyejunior99
      @robbyejunior99 6 місяців тому +15

      It really does

    • @romgorty7038
      @romgorty7038 6 місяців тому +7

      came back just to say this!

    • @tss6
      @tss6 6 місяців тому +3

      Will HL come after him after destroying the lab guys

    • @kyrallie
      @kyrallie 6 місяців тому +30

      @@tss6 vogelbaum died in season 2

    • @tss6
      @tss6 6 місяців тому +1

      @@kyrallie damn, i must have forget that, how did he?

  • @Jessicanimation
    @Jessicanimation 2 роки тому +848

    When even Homelander deserved a better and healthier upbringing.

    • @WalkerOfTheWastes
      @WalkerOfTheWastes 2 роки тому +143

      Every child deserves a healthy and better upbringing. Sometimes its easy to forget that Homelander was once just a frightened child kept in a lab and surrounded by people who viewed him as a product, a thing, an experiment instead of anyone who actually cared.

    • @Mediados
      @Mediados Рік тому +27

      I mean Homelander could have become a good person. With an actual family and the experience of love and acceptance. Vogelbaum is right, the reason Homelander is so evil is his fault.

    • @camerongreene3357
      @camerongreene3357 9 місяців тому +19

      We really do create our own monsters don’t we?

    • @GraceCole-qy6ul
      @GraceCole-qy6ul 5 місяців тому

      Nah, that is the 21st century pussification of america speaking lmfao

    • @theodorvalentinghita1779
      @theodorvalentinghita1779 5 місяців тому +5

      His actions cannot be excused but he would have turned better if he was raised differently

  • @russianspy5007
    @russianspy5007 6 місяців тому +459

    Caesar has marked Homelander for death, and the Legion obeys

    • @EthanLowe-cb9xe
      @EthanLowe-cb9xe 5 місяців тому +23

      "I understood that reference"

    • @Sinclaire8800
      @Sinclaire8800 4 місяці тому +4

      PREATORIAN, TO ME

    • @DarknessDr
      @DarknessDr 3 місяці тому +1

      I forgot what movie he played caesar in

    • @carldalord
      @carldalord Місяць тому +2

      @@DarknessDrgame, he’s the main antagonist, named “Caesar”, in Fallout New Vegas.

  • @TedShatner10
    @TedShatner10 2 роки тому +966

    It was Dr. Vogelbaum declaring Homelander as "bad product".

    • @leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259
      @leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 5 місяців тому +16

      no he's saying hr failed homelander which he did

    • @manuelernesto7713
      @manuelernesto7713 4 місяці тому +5

      actually he admits Homelander to be a good product, just not what Vogelbound ultimately wanted.

    • @TedShatner10
      @TedShatner10 4 місяці тому +3

      ​@@manuelernesto7713I think he was far more emotionally invested into (and perhaps still secretly proud of) the creation of Homelander, his surrogate son, even if he can see now what a horror he helped raise in an artificial environment (while Edgar is a more detached oligarch who saw a useful tool and pet slowly turn feral on him).

  • @mrprimeconsigliere
    @mrprimeconsigliere Рік тому +922

    Every line of rejection and disappointment from the authority figures in his life are pushing him deeper into absolute insanity. This is a villain born of rejection and no love. He can't get the one thing he so desperately craves.

    • @kartikaymisra8133
      @kartikaymisra8133 Рік тому +63

      The problem is Homelander views and treats humans as nothing it's hard to give someone like that love

    • @AB-zl4nh
      @AB-zl4nh Рік тому +76

      He refuses to change. People are disappointed in him because he is a hateful and violent person. He was a victim but as an adult he has the responsibility to change.

    • @mrprimeconsigliere
      @mrprimeconsigliere Рік тому +23

      @@AB-zl4nh Even kids who were celebrities get screwed up lives because of the power and recognition. It messes with your head.
      Homelander was given godlike power since he was a baby. No way in hell can he turn out normal or empathetic.
      The thing is, if any of us are in his place, we wouldn't turn out very different.

    • @Shadowiff
      @Shadowiff Рік тому

      One line spoken by the doc here is wrong and is most likely just an attempt from the writers to virtue signal for women. He mentions kids growing up violent and hateful without mothers, yet in reality kids raised in single mother homes, overwhelmingly seen in ghetto areas for instance - are the ones who become that. I don't think characters are as stupid as the lines they were given, it's just 2023.

    • @johndamario2546
      @johndamario2546 Рік тому +23

      @@kartikaymisra8133why wouldnt he? He was isolated from society by those same humans that robbed him of any love or care by experimenting on him since birth. It doesn’t justify any of his actions but he is a consequence of human ignorance.

  • @Mr-sy3hi
    @Mr-sy3hi 2 роки тому +3030

    "You are my greatest failure', "You are fu*king disapointment", "You're just a cheap fu*king knock off"... I feel sorry for John

    • @lazyybunnyy
      @lazyybunnyy 2 роки тому +806

      and "you are simply bad product"

    • @blinded2329
      @blinded2329 Рік тому +103

      The world deserves whats coming to it homelander is a s teir character best in the show by far

    • @dukecarraway1762
      @dukecarraway1762 Рік тому +109

      ​@Bill Kennedy he wouldn't be if he wasn't raised and treated that way

    • @theshlauf
      @theshlauf Рік тому +41

      @@dukecarraway1762 Yeah, he needs to be put out of his misery.

    • @cyberman4446
      @cyberman4446 Рік тому

      Any of u defending him in these comments are psychos

  • @juannaym8488
    @juannaym8488 Рік тому +252

    He was smart enough to create Homelander but unwise enough to not think about how raising a godlike being without love would be dangerous

    • @pelu101
      @pelu101 5 місяців тому +25

      That's most scientists, to quote Ian Malcolm from Jurassic Park "scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should."

    • @Themanwhosaidsorry
      @Themanwhosaidsorry 4 місяці тому +4

      I am neither smart nor wise. I'm cooked.

  • @Just_Snowy
    @Just_Snowy Рік тому +71

    I like how when he says he's the world's greatest superhero (1:45), he doesn't even believe it himself. Just repeating what he's supposed to believe to make himself feel not as bad

  • @wesleyjones4036
    @wesleyjones4036 2 роки тому +638

    hes so iconic, between this and caesar hes got an amazing voice

  • @notsoalex
    @notsoalex Рік тому +444

    Love that he is the only character that calls Homelander "John"

    • @alexanderward5286
      @alexanderward5286 Рік тому +60

      So did Maeve

    • @Brandon-vj6zz
      @Brandon-vj6zz 6 місяців тому +49

      @@alexanderward5286 Difference is that Maeve has superpowers where as Vogelbaum is just a human who's not afraid of death.

    • @malfaroangel3896
      @malfaroangel3896 6 місяців тому +11

      Not anymore with the most recent episode

    • @brebs8666
      @brebs8666 6 місяців тому +4

      @@malfaroangel3896Mann that was crazy 😭😭

    • @romgorty7038
      @romgorty7038 6 місяців тому +4

      @@malfaroangel3896 almost forgot his name was John before this episode lol

  • @michaelpopely4408
    @michaelpopely4408 Рік тому +83

    That little break in Anthony’s voice is great acting

  • @NyxxyNightstar
    @NyxxyNightstar 6 місяців тому +289

    [Speech 1/100] I'm the world's greatest superhero.
    [FAILED] You're my greatest failure.

  • @mattwalusimbi9577
    @mattwalusimbi9577 Рік тому +170

    I like how glossy his eyes are, it’s like he’s on the brink of just breaking down.

  • @zbox913
    @zbox913 6 місяців тому +138

    Wonder if the contrast between Barbara and Vogelbaum’s perspective of the way they raised Homelander was deliberate. Vogelbaum says they made a mistake raising him in the lab and Barbara views it as one of their greatest successes because it made him “obedient”.

    • @hugomventura
      @hugomventura 6 місяців тому +57

      I think it's to show how both truly see homelander. Vogelbaum viewed him as a sweet child. Barbara was afraid of him.
      As he grew, Barbara viewed his masking as a success. Meanwhile Vogelbaum viewed it as a failure because he knows what homelander became underneath.
      One who was initially afraid and then became arrogant.
      One who was arrogant and then became afraid.

    • @leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259
      @leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 5 місяців тому +13

      @@hugomventura both are terrible but this is a good way of looking at it

  • @HolyknightVader999
    @HolyknightVader999 Рік тому +351

    Caesar telling Homelander he's their greatest failure.

    • @miles6120
      @miles6120 Рік тому +30

      Homelander is lucky he wasn’t Joshua graha-
      I mean the burned man.

    • @tobyduarte9849
      @tobyduarte9849 Рік тому +9

      I thought he sounded familiar! Thanks!

    • @HolyknightVader999
      @HolyknightVader999 6 місяців тому +2

      @@miles6120 Well, in this case, the lab doctor named Frank became the Burned Man.

    • @HolyknightVader999
      @HolyknightVader999 6 місяців тому +3

      @@tobyduarte9849 I can just imagine Homelander adapting Legion ideas and aesthetics. Maybe he'll nail Butcher to the cross while making Starlight and Hughie into slaves.

    • @leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259
      @leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 5 місяців тому +2

      don falcone

  • @Dodgelover-tn8vc
    @Dodgelover-tn8vc 4 місяці тому +6

    This is one of my favorite parts of the show. Antony is so good at being this character and being convincing. He is the top notch quality person to be Homelander. Every single scene he is in he is outshining all the other actors and actresses of the show. He is the real deal. And like James Gandolfini for Tony Soprano, he was born for the role of Homelander.

  • @solaimansohan138
    @solaimansohan138 6 місяців тому +121

    This scene makes more sense after Season 4 Episode 4

  • @carlosperezencinia2670
    @carlosperezencinia2670 4 місяці тому +7

    This is a very powerful and meaningful scene. No matter how old we get, our childhoods will always follow us. It takes a huge part in who we are.
    Damn it, Homelander is such a well written character!

  • @alpha5664
    @alpha5664 Рік тому +267

    I think Homelander was the one who paralyzed Vogelbaum for lying about Becca and Ryan. I think the reason he let him live but murdered Stillwell was because he still saw Vogelbaum as his father despite hating him and with good reason.

    • @calowenby1654
      @calowenby1654 10 місяців тому +22

      I never thought of that! I think you might be onto something.

    • @edythebeast7087
      @edythebeast7087 7 місяців тому +4

      No crap dude

    • @salutations8705
      @salutations8705 6 місяців тому +17

      Ya man, homelander even said “I squeezed the truth out of him” probably grabbed his spine thru his butt 😬

    • @Youngairmoney
      @Youngairmoney 2 місяці тому

      Spot on

  • @metrozaki
    @metrozaki 2 роки тому +190

    man homelander been through a lot all his father figures told him he was a failure vogelbaum,edgar and soldier boy

    • @saulgoodmanskin
      @saulgoodmanskin Рік тому

      How is Edgar a father figure to Homelander? They’ve literally only met a couple times.

    • @heresfrankbetches921
      @heresfrankbetches921 Рік тому +23

      ​@@saulgoodmanskin you didn't pay attention

    • @saulgoodmanskin
      @saulgoodmanskin Рік тому +2

      @@heresfrankbetches921 “I didn’t pay attention” how did I not pay attention? It seems people are forcing this dynamic between the 2 that doesn’t exist.
      Edgar has shown nothing but contempt towards Homelander and I doubt Homelander is all that fond of Edgar considering how much he bruises his ego.

    • @tagrerte4701
      @tagrerte4701 Рік тому +30

      @@saulgoodmanskin Edgar is definitely a father figure for Homelander :
      - Homelander has crippling daddy (and mommy) issues. Be it because they have confluctual interactions with their respective biological dads, because they are orphans or because their fathers died recently, people will project those issues on any man who "catches their fancy". Edgar is one of those men for he is (was) Homelander's boss, a ruthless figure he begrudgingly respected.
      - Daddy issues are not about liking or not someone, it's about receiving their approval. Homelander wants (wanted) Edgar's approval, as noted by the man himself ("Then why are you still here, looking for my approval like I'm your daddy").
      - Homelander didn't kill Edgar or even injure him, even after all the insults he received from him. He killed people for far less than that. But here ? He's taking it because, yes, he indeed wanted any kind of approval from Edgar, even a tiny "You got me bitch".
      So, no, I don't think people are forcing this dynamic. It was spelled out by the series itself.

    • @saulgoodmanskin
      @saulgoodmanskin Рік тому +5

      @@tagrerte4701 a father figure is someone who is, ya know, *like an actual father to you.*
      This is why I think people are projecting this dynamic onto them.
      Yes, Homelander has parental issues, but, Homelander is also insanely insecure and wants to be validated by everyone, especially someone who he respects and deems as very important. That doesn’t automatically mean Edgar is *like a father to him,* that’s completely nonsensical.

  • @andrewkind2820
    @andrewkind2820 Рік тому +99

    "I'm just an old man thinking about his mistakes" I'm in my early thirties, I am way too young for this to be my reality and yet it is

  • @kalvin187douglas
    @kalvin187douglas 6 місяців тому +27

    I wish Vogelbaum wasn’t killed off in S3, I would’ve loved to see Homelander confront Vogelbaum about his childhood. Here in this season, Homelander is denying how it affects him but in S4 he acknowledges that pain completely

    • @juu4503
      @juu4503 5 місяців тому +3

      He was killed off in Season 2 🤓

  • @s534e
    @s534e 6 місяців тому +114

    Interesting to see how he spared Vogelbaum (left him with paralysis) but massacred the other doctors. His eyes got teary when Vogelbaum apologized but was only sadistic to the others when they tried doing the same.

    • @troopers0312
      @troopers0312 6 місяців тому +100

      tbh vogelbaum's apology here sounds sincere while the others are just because they are afraid for their lives

    • @cv-05
      @cv-05 6 місяців тому +77

      He feels genuine guilt. He sees and understands Homelander's pain and suffering, even if belatedly. And he admits his mistakes and doesn't hide from the truth, no matter how harsh.

    • @drmaulana2600
      @drmaulana2600 6 місяців тому +50

      He can see/hear people's heartbeat, so he know which apology is made out of sincerity or fear. Vogelbaum's apology were sincere, he did regret putting John under cold lab rather than raise him as his own son, hence "my greatest failure".
      Those scientists on the other hand, Frank only apologise after John threatened him and his family, and Marty also apologize after seeing John killed Frank.

    • @denisprawira6828
      @denisprawira6828 6 місяців тому

      ​@@drmaulana26008

    • @vuyilemdladla4576
      @vuyilemdladla4576 5 місяців тому

      Wait a minute, didn't he kill Vogelbaum?

  • @Artymorty_124
    @Artymorty_124 8 місяців тому +9

    "And yet I turned out great"
    Love the double meanings-he's basically throwing it in Vogelbaums face "yes, you should have had me raised with a family who loved me, but you didnt-so here we are. And it's all your fault"

  • @mantellim5489
    @mantellim5489 2 роки тому +59

    Sticks and stones may break my bones, but my words got my legs broken

  • @gordongekko9742
    @gordongekko9742 Рік тому +50

    Imagine saying someone; you will always be a failure and a bad product/person because of the things I did to you when you were a baby/child

  • @dannypitcherenterprises2414
    @dannypitcherenterprises2414 Рік тому +19

    This is a very underrated scene, and really cements Homelander’s character.

  • @SujayJoeFreedan
    @SujayJoeFreedan 8 місяців тому +27

    "When I raise subject without their mother they become violent, agressive , downright hateful"

  • @jaegermann4170
    @jaegermann4170 Рік тому +368

    Let’s be honest. We’d all be just like Homelander if we were raised the same. Nobody would take the moral high ground

    • @chukyuniqul
      @chukyuniqul Рік тому +46

      I would still expect no sympathy. If a dog's gone rabid the best you can do for it is to out it down.

    • @S.D.323
      @S.D.323 9 місяців тому +5

      perhaps not but he probably turned out worse than most would have

    • @cooliostarstache5474
      @cooliostarstache5474 7 місяців тому +16

      That's no true exactly. There are the exceptions, those that break the mold despite everything that's been done to them. But they're incredibly rare

    • @oscarmoreno65
      @oscarmoreno65 6 місяців тому +2

      Except for Obi-Wan

    • @Dempsey1873
      @Dempsey1873 6 місяців тому +4

      "let's be honest" one of UA-cam comments greatest cliches

  • @taxult
    @taxult Рік тому +41

    Caesar telling the Courier he's a failure (2281, Colourised)

  • @Skepticalstudent45
    @Skepticalstudent45 Рік тому +21

    All this talk about how he should’ve received more compassion and nurturing growing up, only to then tell homelander he’s his worst failure and sour his quasi-father relationship even more.

  • @patrickresse7625
    @patrickresse7625 Рік тому +16

    This is such a brilliantly written and acted scene. Rewatching this waiting for the Gen V finale, and this stands out as one of their best scenes. You see the deep down trauma and breaks in the crack that made him who he is. The worst people here and the Supe’s weakness is humanity.

  • @alguienconunvideojuego4606
    @alguienconunvideojuego4606 3 роки тому +94

    That's gotta hurt.

  • @jwiese100
    @jwiese100 6 місяців тому +29

    Frankenstein and his Creation. He thought he was giving the world a super hero but instead he created a monster and he realizes this. He gave John the powers, but he never taught him what it means to be a hero

    • @Lutherstrode17492
      @Lutherstrode17492 6 місяців тому +4

      It wasn’t just his fault. It was also the countless scientists fault for never acknowledging that John was a human and not a lab rat

  • @diegofiggie965
    @diegofiggie965 3 роки тому +486

    True to Caesar.

  • @TacoWrath95
    @TacoWrath95 6 місяців тому +58

    Caesar is just disappointed with Homelander because his squad has a negative clearance rate for the year.

    • @The_Punisher
      @The_Punisher 6 місяців тому +4

      So many references 😂

  • @cb-9938
    @cb-9938 6 місяців тому +18

    He equates Homelanders creation too Dog Breeding. Which is just a perfect example how even now he sees Homelander as nothing more than a terrible product caused by his mistakes, not training him.....like you would a dog....

  • @BlueRazor69
    @BlueRazor69 2 роки тому +176

    If Homelander got pushed enough he would kill Edgar, Billy, Maeve or anyone else.
    I don’t think Homelander would touch this guy

    • @samueleandriolo4517
      @samueleandriolo4517 Рік тому +69

      He literally putted him in a wheelchair

    • @alonnie1919
      @alonnie1919 Рік тому +10

      @@samueleandriolo4517 Yet Butcher got everything to him with just a look and words. No super powers, nothing

    • @samueleandriolo4517
      @samueleandriolo4517 Рік тому +50

      @@alonnie1919 he threatend to kill all his family, it wasn't just a look. And Homelander didn't want anything from him at that point. It was done only to hurt his "father"

    • @brandonm5130
      @brandonm5130 Рік тому +27

      He literally crippled him 💀

    • @Soccercrazyigboman
      @Soccercrazyigboman Рік тому +2

      ​@@brandonm5130 when did he cripple him?

  • @alexidk-ig
    @alexidk-ig 6 місяців тому +17

    god i love the writing in season 1

  • @meodrac
    @meodrac Рік тому +50

    Caesar destroying Homelander like he destroyed a low charisma and intelligence Courier

  • @S.D.323
    @S.D.323 9 місяців тому +8

    I genuinely think he is the most tragic character in the boys universe

  • @samsargent284
    @samsargent284 2 роки тому +61

    All I hear is Caesar

    • @coberrycheesesnek4769
      @coberrycheesesnek4769 Рік тому +4

      Same, I guess what you first associate a voice with is what you'll always associate a voice with.

  • @secredeath
    @secredeath 2 роки тому +48

    When I first saw this scene I was super interested in the German retrievers. There obviously german shepherds but he must of bred them with a retriever most likely a black retriever and bred out the looks of the retriever to keep it looking like a german shepherd

  • @B_PE
    @B_PE 5 місяців тому +6

    Homelander never got to be a hero. Just a lab rat, tortured 24/7 for years in constant pain locked in a basement alone with his hate. If he got to play soccer, or have a sleepover, hell even toss a football with a father figure, he would know that there are things on earth worth saving. If he got that warmth, the awe on kids faces when they saw him fly, the love he so desperately needed, I have no doubt that he would be the world’s greatest hero. He needed a Martha and Johnathan.

  • @lamarpray5324
    @lamarpray5324 Рік тому +16

    “You’re my greatest failure…”
    *and then he gets lasered by homelander*

  • @KingSlayer_.
    @KingSlayer_. 8 місяців тому +9

    This scene is what makes Homelander such a compelling villain. It feels so real. His backstory. It all adds up, and it makes perfect sense how he became the monster that he is.
    I dont think Homelander is truly evil. I think deep down, Homelander doesn't truly want to hurt other people. He only wants to protect himself and his fragile sense of identity. From a young age, everyone and everything rejected him, tortured him, and used and abused him for years on end. Despite the plain suffering and anguish, he was in all the "humans" (as he likes to put it) looked at him with mild pity and indifference. If this is how you raise a child then that child is going to have no choice but become a monster to protect himself. Despite all of this, people claim it isnt an excuse to do the things he does. But honestly, im not so sure about that. Perhaps not a justification per se but its as close to an excuse as you can get really. The most terrifying thing about his character and him as a person is one day hell realize this, and instead of wanting approval from them, Homelander will instead realize its them that should be begging for his. This will essentially be judgement day, and it's not so far off a possibility that this will be how humanity ends...
    Homelander is the most terrfying villian of all time

  • @anthonymendoza6210
    @anthonymendoza6210 6 місяців тому +7

    He should have said "Don't let our ugliness and evil reflect on the rest of humanity".
    "Do what you want with me, but don't become like us"
    "Im sorry, im sorry John"

  • @emperorpingusmathchannel5365
    @emperorpingusmathchannel5365 6 місяців тому +10

    This scene makes me feel so bad for homelander / John. He must be so sad and miserable inside.

  • @medalgear654
    @medalgear654 6 місяців тому +7

    This is the most human we've ever seen Homelander.

  • @SeyhawksNow
    @SeyhawksNow 6 місяців тому +17

    All that regret Vogelbaum shows is too little too late, especially after episode 4

  • @not_stealthy7697
    @not_stealthy7697 6 місяців тому +7

    I feel like this whole scene is proof that Homelander has or had some aspect of humanity in him. He showed emotion and it looked as if he was going to cry but fought it. Psychopaths show no emotion iirc

    • @mr.bomzalo9563
      @mr.bomzalo9563 6 місяців тому +2

      He isnt a psychopath.
      A sociopath.

  • @Z-A-C
    @Z-A-C 3 роки тому +429

    You want forgiveness?? Get religion.

  • @saulbueno5640
    @saulbueno5640 6 місяців тому +8

    Nice to know Caesar ended up giving up on the legion and embraced science

    • @Jerome18921
      @Jerome18921 3 місяці тому

      Edward Sallow but he goes to east coast instead

  • @XanderMarshall
    @XanderMarshall 6 місяців тому +5

    That line wasn't an insult aimed directly to Homelander.
    It was Vogelbaum taking accountability for being a failure with Homelander's upbringing.

  • @ginocantatore4494
    @ginocantatore4494 2 роки тому +20

    ​just before the scene closed out I thought Homelander said wow but different to how he said it to Maeve but it was just the sound effect of the scene closing out but if it it wasn't that would have been awesome and added to Homelander's character

  • @luiseduardo4748
    @luiseduardo4748 Рік тому +25

    The best scene in the show

  • @destroblitz5742
    @destroblitz5742 6 місяців тому +10

    i just realized he's Caesar

  • @pallaschto1700
    @pallaschto1700 Рік тому +14

    "it's called Hegelian dialectics, homelander"

  • @sven-nc7ph
    @sven-nc7ph Рік тому +16

    While I understand that vogelbaum sees the homelander as his dark past and his mistakes regardless, he should not say that in front of him.

  • @davidrule385
    @davidrule385 Рік тому +13

    Homelander: I'm the world's greatest superhero.
    Vogelbaum: You're my greatest failure.

    • @JUNJYR
      @JUNJYR Рік тому +6

      Oh, you watched the clip too?

    • @sjgamingwarrio3448
      @sjgamingwarrio3448 7 місяців тому

      Homelander: So you’ve chosen amputation.

  • @ravishing_cadet4625
    @ravishing_cadet4625 Рік тому +8

    Even after all this time Caesor still has his dogs.

  • @edenramos9686
    @edenramos9686 Рік тому +8

    That's exactly what Soldier Boy said to my in the same way saying Homelanded is a disappointment

  • @driptator7824
    @driptator7824 Рік тому +20

    Caesar if he embraced technology instead of tribalism

  • @DavidVloch
    @DavidVloch 5 місяців тому +3

    S4 E4 and this scene pretty much confirms that John is not evil because he just is. He is broken because of his terrible and horrifying childhood without real family with love.

  • @marcusmeins1839
    @marcusmeins1839 3 роки тому +161

    you want forgiveness? now?

    • @qeriendocambiar
      @qeriendocambiar 3 роки тому +75

      Get religion

    • @rivertwygzbed543
      @rivertwygzbed543 2 роки тому +36

      @@qeriendocambiar I wouldn't wanna fight me either!

    • @itsviper6
      @itsviper6 2 роки тому +26

      @@rivertwygzbed543 i missed the part where thats my problem

    • @esbenorionpax8544
      @esbenorionpax8544 2 роки тому +6

      @@qeriendocambiar okay really?

    • @qeriendocambiar
      @qeriendocambiar 2 роки тому +12

      @@esbenorionpax8544 you should have thought of that earlier

  • @batoptimus
    @batoptimus 2 роки тому +49

    I recognise that actor (John Doman) from Gotham as Falcone

    • @crazyaf12
      @crazyaf12 2 роки тому +24

      And Caesar from Fallout New Vegas

    • @batoptimus
      @batoptimus 2 роки тому

      @@crazyaf12 What Fallout New Vegas? I never heard of that video game.

    • @juanit0burrit0
      @juanit0burrit0 2 роки тому +4

      And Rawls from The Wire

    • @BoredGamerGuy115
      @BoredGamerGuy115 Рік тому

      @@batoptimus fallout new vegas is a fallout game set in Las Vegas Where you're a courier who woke up from getting shot in the head and your trying to find the guy who shot you and before you got shot you were delivering something called a platinum chip which your also looking for there are factions such as the NCR, Caesar's legion and whatever Mr house's faction was called. It's a pretty good game when you get the chance to play It

    • @batoptimus
      @batoptimus Рік тому

      @@BoredGamerGuy115 don’t give spoilers alright. I don’t play sort of games I don’t played

  • @justincase2090
    @justincase2090 4 місяці тому +1

    Respect for telling it how it is.

  • @xSmuggen
    @xSmuggen Рік тому +8

    If I had a nickle for each time a character played by John Doman brought about a cruel threat to the country guised as a savior, I'd have two nickles. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.

    • @GingerDancer77
      @GingerDancer77 11 місяців тому +2

      Why would Pope Alexander VI do this

  • @ans14.88
    @ans14.88 5 місяців тому +2

    i feel so bad for homelander, almost cry

  • @anagrams-u5r
    @anagrams-u5r Рік тому +7

    "I destroyed your childhood because it was inevitable it be destroyed. It was hegelian dialectics... not personal animosity"

  • @erys8957
    @erys8957 8 місяців тому +3

    Honestly, if they keep treating him as an experiment gone wrong, I can understand why Homelander is so problematic. That is, not only did they raise him as a lab rat, but then they even have the nerve to mistreat and insult him. As if he had become this way through his own fault and not also through their fault.

  • @WillemDafuq69
    @WillemDafuq69 5 місяців тому +2

    Caesar talking to the courier who uses tgm and tcl through every combat encounter

  • @MrStormCrow
    @MrStormCrow 6 місяців тому +6

    I guess homelander been taking it hard ever since he got ejected from the legion in the wasteland

    • @mrditkovich5634
      @mrditkovich5634 6 місяців тому +1

      Homelander is Joshua Graham (confirmed)

  • @edwinjusto5739
    @edwinjusto5739 5 місяців тому +3

    Ironically homelander had he been raised by annies mother and in that environment, homelander wouldn’t have just been the success that vought wanted but the absolute greatest superhero cuz he would have had some actual morals and humanity in him

  • @Jacketpotatos1
    @Jacketpotatos1 5 місяців тому +1

    Just now finding out this is the VO for Caesar from New Vegas. CRAZY!!

    • @theSuperviLLain_est
      @theSuperviLLain_est 4 місяці тому +1

      It’s Rawls from the Wire. Maybe the most underrated character on television and it’s cuz of the Actor, superb performance

  • @Jeudaos
    @Jeudaos Рік тому +3

    Old man calling him by his actual name hit a nerve to so bad he had to REMIND him 'i'm the worlds greatest superhero' which, since the dude playing homelander is SO good. YOu can see by the look on his face, he knows deep down, he's wrong.

  • @Jamesthemaze
    @Jamesthemaze Рік тому +4

    William Rawls has to deal with a bigger and more psychotic jimmy mcnulty 😂

  • @williamtolliday6852
    @williamtolliday6852 5 місяців тому +1

    1:16 I think if Vogelbaum just hugged Homelander here. The whole show wouldve changed.

  • @black-cross
    @black-cross Рік тому +5

    nah, theres people who grow up in messed up enviroments and turn out to be good people. the world shows you good and bad, and you end up making your choice. its still all on homelander. he can change if he so wishes.

    • @anthonyf616
      @anthonyf616 6 місяців тому +2

      He was never shown good

  • @victortellez6138
    @victortellez6138 2 роки тому +20

    Ave true to Vogelbaum

  • @TuTuVanOers2
    @TuTuVanOers2 2 роки тому +38

    Homelander can be the most powerful supe in the world, he was also the most hurt and backstabbed.

    • @ardour1587
      @ardour1587 Рік тому +1

      Meh...you can find people who expirienced much more miserable existanse and noone made'em a god after that

  • @saadasaad8538
    @saadasaad8538 2 роки тому +10

    Bill Rawls wants his stats Homelander

  • @TruthTvLT
    @TruthTvLT Рік тому +6

    I recognize that voice from anywhere, that's Ceaser!

  • @augustus4972
    @augustus4972 Рік тому +6

    Caesar brutally spits on Homelander.

  • @jimmyseit934
    @jimmyseit934 Рік тому +6

    Ave, true to Caesar.

  • @zeus-xk3px
    @zeus-xk3px 6 місяців тому +1

    This scene emits “I am what you made me”

  • @alexstelly8980
    @alexstelly8980 Рік тому +4

    That shoo shoo got me 🤣

  • @abandonallhope.1040
    @abandonallhope.1040 6 місяців тому +4

    Yeesh. Talking about breeding dogs in context of raising him. Cold.

    • @mike.hawk666
      @mike.hawk666 5 місяців тому

      Even colder when you consider season 4

  • @Sikes535
    @Sikes535 Рік тому +2

    "You want forgiveness?"
    "Go to church" 1:15

  • @Anita.Cox.
    @Anita.Cox. 11 місяців тому +9

    Hail caesar

  • @Notaffiliated64
    @Notaffiliated64 2 роки тому +25

    It’s nothing personal just Hegelian Dialectic’s.

  • @zorion.edits45
    @zorion.edits45 4 місяці тому +1

    "i'm the worlds greatest superhero"

  • @commanderrepublic7914
    @commanderrepublic7914 5 місяців тому +2

    “It’s just Hegelian dialectics, Homelander.”