We Streamed Some Mass Effect: Andromeda
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Brad, Jeff, and Rorie have their first encounter with Andromeda. Don't worry. They've got this.
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How are your still preordering games? especially ones that already looked worrying?
I thought Mass Effect was a sure thing and am dumb enough to be swayed by preorder bonuses. I WAS WRONG.
Even if you thought the game would be great there is still no reason to pre order. You're a fucking sucker buddy. Enjoy paying for shit before you even see it or try it out.
I'm hanging on to my pre-order because its only $50 from Amazon (E3 pre-sale, got Titanfall 2 as well). But it'll come to me with lowered expectations.
"I'll play shit because i expect shit" Wew lad.
Oh sweet mother of broken doll faces.
It just works.
I'm getting weirdly excited for your shitstorm Smud
smudboy hey smud, welcome to the shitshow.
EMBRACE PERFECTION. Oo oO
go get'em smud !
I like how they just treated Dad Ryder as plot fuel, and didn't explore any of the social or emotional repercussions from what happened. "WELL that happened, let's go."
Way to go.
FancyKerbloops There's a scene right after his death where people break the news to you, and you've got two options: "He died a hero" and "Didn't know him, don't care". Yep.
FancyKerbloops maybe he's not dead?
+Shadow Broker
There'd be no impact to that reveal, though, as nobody even reacted to his death in the first place.
The "Your parent died at the beginning!" trope is so fucking played out, I think if the trope isn't somehow subverted in this day and age, you can't expect much else moving forward, what a waste of the most talented VA in the whole game
12:42 holy shit, look at that walking animation...
HAHAHAHHA
i think they accidentally applied the salarian walking animation to her
_Goddamn._ There's so much unintentional gold in this.
so the people left on earth are 600 years more advanced than these people who have been floating in space.
but apparently not the aliens and people you interact with throughout the game for some reason.
+why they gotta be white Thank God nothing in the Andromeda Galaxy evolved technologically compared to Earth 600 years ago, or the whole initiative would have been fucked. Boy, what a fantastic coincidence XD
They're all dead from the Reapers breh
Well I guess yeah, unless they're rebuilding society from scratch after practically being exterminated by Reapers?
they evolved better faces.
How to make an idle pose: Model your character holding two large suitcases by their side and make the suitcases invisible. DONE
I can't believe this game is bad. It isn't like the founders of Bioware left or the game was missing the Director, the Producer, all the previous Senior writers, the Lead Writer (left in 2), all the older experienced artists and Unreal Engine guys were replaced by inexperienced guys on a new engine, and the lead writer in 3 (who did not write Tuchanka or Rannoch which were high points) who solo lead wrote that awesome ME 3 ending and a really bad comic book was promoted.
Oh wait...All of that happened and people STILL thought this game would be good. Mass Effect without Drew Karpyshyn or Casey Hudson is like Terminator without James Cameron. Bioware died in 2012. It's zombie dies with this game. You should have mourned THEN and you should have blamed EA. SWTOR, splitting up talent and teams and a insane 2 year deadline on ME 3 took it's toll. When the founders left EA took "direct control" and it has been downhill ever since and all led up to this. Might be a good time to say you are sorry to Casey Hudson if you were one of the people that scapegoated him for ME 3. He works at Microsoft now. We ran probably the best director/producer who made KOTOR and Mass Effect out of personally creating great games for us to play, while Emperor Palpatine (EA) was behind it all.
Well said
The sham that SWTOR was should be an indication to anyone that EA is a sickness on quality gaming
Only racists and misogynists notice when talented white men are replaced by untalented women and minorities. You don't want to be a racist misogynist, do you?
Wow. Worse than expected. Ouch.
I'm loathe to like such a negative comment about my once favorite developer and franchise, but can't say it ain't so.
Great points all around.
the alien world just looks like a normal desert. amazing
Boy, watching even 10 minutes of this reminds me of how far animation has come in games since ME3.
This looks awful.
especially after just playing Horizon Zero Dawn and then watching this.
im still amazed when i talk to NPCs
Watching 5 seconds of this reminds of me of how much better facial animation was in Mass Effect 1
Yeah Mass effect 1 did a better job with facial animations, not saying it was amazing or anything but better.
TinyPrinceGames ME3 was better
It's like I'm really there in the world of Fallout 4 again
Fallout 4 is miles above this, especially with mods.
Fallout 4 is a turd
The Toddlers of Howard strike again!
StonyHarpy i think the fallout 4 character animation was far better than this. And that's saying a lot.
The writing, voice acting and pacing are the same level of piss poor though. The animations wouldn't matter as much if any of those other things were better and could make up for it.
The Asari has a freaking monster mash face.
My face is tired.
Jesus that voice acting. The voice actors strike hit hard.
Geez, these animations. Bioware has NEVER been good at that but this seems especially rough, and I really don't know how a patch can fix all of the wooden gestures and bad eye tracking
Not sure I mind the clunky UI so much. I play Paradox games religiously, for chrissakes.
This looks roooough =\
Plot twist, humanity has perished and the Ark is filled with robots trying to be humans.
Everyone in this game looks like they're trying to hide how high they are.
This looks incredibly bad just as I feared, what the fuck Bioware.
it's not bioware it's ea. ea scattered bioware long ago it's just fake bioware
THEY ARE VERMIN. Oo oO
That inept bunch is riding on fame and recognition of the original bw team. They can't even get traditional Jedi robes into SWTOR, the only Star Wars mmo, for five years.
BioWare Montreal made this game. The original ME trilogy was made by BioWare Edmonton. They also made it on the Frostbite engine, unlike the original games which were on Unreal.
200 developers, 3 teams (Austin, Edmonton, and Montreal)
Jeff: "Brad I'm having trouble"
Brad "with?"
Jeff: "the way this game looks"
LOL
The voice of the korgan at 12:05 is just ridiculous.You would expect a much deeper voice to them, you know...like all them had up to ME3.
Almost all publications are worried about this game based on the its opening hours. That, is a troubling sign.
14:34
"Sorry, my face is tired from dealin with... everything".
You're damn right, girl.
I was concerned about the quality of this game, but it's somehow even worse than I imagined.
The writing is about on par with your average internet fanfiction (ie sounds completely unnatural, and way too much exposition), and I've seen PS2 games with smoother, more natural looking animations.
Glad I'm not the only one stunned by the bad writing. It literally feels like they went from targeting adults to targeting tweens with the vocabulary and complexity of the writing. Terrible. I never thought I'd see a Mass Effect game where I wouldn't be looking forward to meeting and talking to characters.
The HZA I came to think specifically of metal gear solid 2 who had way better emoted faces with so few polygons than this. This is embarrassingly bad after seeing Uncharted 4 and even the Witcher 3 had much better facial animations.
yeah some of the lines are just cringe worthy and no emotions detected in them. and for some reason they cant get human face right at bioware specially those eyes those stares just ruin some of the scenes cause it so laughable >
You could hide the writing problems -- if they had decent acting/directing and some animation performance. Everything is so stiff, audio and visual.
The main thrust of the game seems... really weak at the outset. Like, bam, dead dad, now you are the chosen one. The stuff outside that seems fine, the garish human faces just make it really hard to believe anything that's being said. Maybe the game's a slow burn?
Raven's Cry quality animation.
Thunderbirds quality animation.
Tom Laurie At least Chris Raven tried to maintain eye contact with whoever he was talking to.
Cora looks like a simpsons character
This is a fucking mess.
Holy shit this looks like a mess sent out while on fire. Stale dialogue that doesn't flow, janky movement animations, lifeless facial animations, quick looped idle animations in cutscenes, texture flickering, odd blur, bad modeling..was this suppose to release like in November and was just rushed out? Seriously one of these things in a game can be forgiven, but this is just sad.
Uncanny valley central.
Just noticing the dialogue - it's too..... young-teen-young-adult-y. I get that Ryder is supposed to be young, but he sounds like a first year uni student. In fact, far too many characters sound like first year uni students. Commander Shepard was a GODDAMN COMMANDER and he sounded like one and he talked like one. Ryder sounds like the teen working at my local subway chatting to his buddies about surfing on the weekend.
John Smith I've been noticing this weird trend in writing and voice acting lately, not only in games, but in movies also. Dialogue is gradually becoming less and less complex, while the performances gravitate towards being as average and as "normal" as possible so that the audience could presumably connect with all of it easier. Which is pretty dumb. I'd rather play as someone who's professional and awesome instead of someone who's like that random guy I've seen near the local general store.
The foggy faces are from fart clouds. Its farts built up in the suits and is finally reaching an opening.
*reinstalls Witcher 3*
50:30 imagine bursting for a shit and having to wait for the bathroom door to load
ENDLESS TRAAAASSSH!
Ryder looks like a dwarf, a lot of character look unnaturally short.
Mass Effect: Inquisition
No one notices how the character's eyes sometimes are in extreme positions? Positions that are not physically possible for the human eye? Ryder is looking through the corner of his eye in way that his eye almost looks inside his skull!
Do people find scanning things fun? Why do game developers keep making it?
It was okay in the Metroid Prime series. That's where it should have stayed.
Mystery Face X They keep doing it because it makes the game feel longer than it really is. It's also an easy way to create quests: your player wants to do something, but you're too lazy to craft an interesting mission, so just send them out to scan a bunch of stuff, and call it a day.
Even then you could totally choose to ignore it if you wanted to in Prime. No sidequest were tied to it. Hell the game didn't even have sidequest. Prime had a lot of cool ideas that no one took.
I'll mark it on your map tho....
Yeah, if it's optional I don't mind it. Codex or story stuff, but when it's required for upgrades and getting new things, I wonder why developers even bother to force it upon players.
All the face to face conversations look like they're reading cues cards off screen
Edit: And two seconds later Rorie says the same thing, yep
Given the level of animation quality in this game, there sure are a lot of close ups of people's faces in conversations in this video... Were the developers not aware that this looks a bit bad?
You had Natalie Dormer Bioware.... NATALIE DORMER!! How could you fuck this up?
Matt Rory's giggle when he knows it looks like shit... 5:02
Oh I get it. The twist must be that the synthesis ending is canon. Thats why everyone sounds so robotic!
"We got this" -EA
*years later* oh my god
they _killed_ Mass effect
"My face is tired"- Mass Effect: Andromeda
Game looks like absolute shit. Montreal studios' first game and it shows.
you do realize that all of the mass effect games are acanadian made, right? This is just a different division in Canada.
This is made by Bioware Montreal formerly EA Montreal. These people made the Army Of Twp games and have little to no experience crafting stories the way Bioware does.
200 developers, 3 teams (Austin, Edmonton, and Montreal)
I think they did the Omega DLC for Mass Effect 3, which would explain a lot because that dlc had cutscenes and animations that ran like shit as well
oh damn, so the game was fucked at day one!
Why must the one Asari have the best facial animation by comparison? Was someone at Bioware dedicating years to getting this one character right, but then realized the game was suppose to ship out in a few days?
The battle animations looked so good that I was sure everything else would be awsome aswell.
Welp
They have a quest section that has "relationships" in the title? Are you fucking kidding me?
Might as well just make a dating simulator at this point, Bioware.
I figured out what the problem with the lipsync is. It's like they made animations for separate phonemes instead of just animating FOR the dialogue. Very apparent whenever someone says "strange" or anything with a "g".
Oh good Mass Effect 2 got upscaled.
Seems like Polygon doesn't even need to make a Monster Factory video for this game when the game itself already is one.
I couldn't believe my eyes while watching this. How the hell did they look at the way characters move and say "yeah, that's great, release it"? It's worse than Dragon Age Origins, feels like everyone's on crack - rapid random eyeball movement which makes zero sense, completely still eyebrows and heads, mouths move like they're not even human, and every single transition is blatantly obvious. In a game where you spend 50% of the time talking to people in closeups!
I get it. Animating humans is hard. Animating human faces is even harder. But why does a game released in 2017 looks so much worse animation-wise than the game made by the same company decades ago? Did they lose all their assets and had to come up with something from scratch moments before release?
I'm a huge Bioware fan, I've played through both the Mass Effect and Dragon Age trilogies countless times. I don't usually care about graphics if the story and the writing is good. But this is horrible, and there's no way to ignore it when you're required to stare at it all the time. It's so depressing.
THE HELL IS WITH THE FACES!?!? YOU BLEW IT BIOWARE!
Quite the 'don't preorder' ultimate video.
I'm with Jeff. I'm not feelin' Mass Effect. Not too impressed. Hopefully I am dead wrong.
Can't wait till the inevitable CrowbCat video
It took them three games and over almost two hours of this video to discover that soldier is the worst class.
Bioware really needs to fire their character modeling/animating team even DA:I was completely shit
Almost always Brad is the optimistic about a game and Jeff is just like: man this shit sucks.
Im still not sure how much of my discomfort with these animations is due to it being pointed out to me, like I cant tell if its just nostalgia telling me the older Mass Effect animations looked way better but golly this is making me uncomfortable watching some of these facial and body motions
This is what happens when you attempt "ultimate realism" with human-esque character design. Every detail is going to inspire more scrutiny, and when you find cracks, they stand out that much more.
I've never played mass effect, and this game is definitely very much in the uncanny valley
Smudboy did a short comparison of ME:A and ME1 animations during conversations and, I have to say, ME1 looked better for some reason. I don't think its just nostalgia
It's not nostalgia sadly, check any voiced scene from ME1-3, it's a noticeable step back
The point is this shouldn't even be comparable to mass effect 3 in terms of quality. And the fact that it is shows how poorly done it is.
WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THEIR LEGS
how??? how it was possible to screw it up?? You've done Mass Effect, you've done Mass Effect 2, even 3rd looks good!
How the fuck???
The giant bomb crew sound so depressed lol, can't blame them
Come one guys this isn't mass FX 4 its just mass FX:Andromeda, a spinoff of the beloved franchise.
That "you're not Alec Ryder" line fucked me up because my name is Alec...
Scanning, everyones favorite!
In this day and age this kind of ugly, static, awkward character design is no longer acceptable.
What the hell is up with the Krogan's voice actor??? Sounds a like a flamboyant 16 year old....
I think its supposed to be a female.. But even a female krogans voice shouldn't sound like that.
It's so jarring, along with the horrific facial and movement animations. I was actually thinking of picking up the game (I did enjoy the original trilogy), but it is so hard to get immersed in an RPG when you can't focus on the drama and action, just the awful technical issues.
Is this the 360 port? Holy shit. Compare this to Horizon
This also just seems incredibly boring?
I am getting some serious dead space vibes with the transit system in place there.
Looking at this just makes me want to play Mass Effect 2 again.
oh boy this looks rough
Omg. These eyes. They are seriously evoking fear. Voice acting is horrendous.
I used to be a huge ME-fan until the end of three. These faces makes it a no buy for me, it's a unbelievably distracting.
if the SAM thing can speak directly to Ryder's brain, what was the point of going to a room? if noone can hear it, wouldn't it be ok just talking anywhere?
We got this! To bad the devs don't, this looks like something went majorly wrong, I can't wait to hear the story on this game's development , I bet it was an absolute nightmare working on it.
Did people actually expect Frostbite to match the needs of such a project. As good as it can look, it's buggy and...god those face animations...
I made a spectacularly ugly Shepherd in ME2, so I named him German. It was a real pleasure watching my milk-mustachioed, eyebrow-less, bulgy-surprise-eyed goodguy hero pursue romance. This new iteration looks like that sort of character is the only option.
12:41 Cora's walk cycle, wtf??
More like we SURVIVED mass effect andromeda.
We got dis
The run animation is HORRIBLE! especially when you run up&down the stairs.
EDIT: The title for this video should have been Unfinished: Mass Effect: Andromeda Part 2.
You can actually see her unload at 12:27, what is this travesty?
We got this.
Wow, that shit eating grin at 1:25:57. I think I will buy Nier:Automata instead.
They wasted all of their face animation budget on that scene, that's why rest of the expressions in the game looks lifeless.
To think that Nier would outdo Mass Effect. Nier's fucking fantastic though. Not sure what's going on with bioware.
37:43 his arm wipes the puddle texture in the background as he's walking. If Spider-Man started puddle-gate 2018, this must be puddle-gate 2017! We found it.
This feels like the the new fantastic 4 film turned into mass effect!!!
I was wondering why he was refusing to replenish his ammo after he explained the ammo refill stations. I figured he knew something I didn't know but nope, he just ignored them.
It looks like they focused on the not-story stuff. Which is the wrong way to go considering that I don't know many people who loved bioware rpg's for anything else. The characters look... lifeless (I think its the eyes specifically but it could be something else) and something about the voices seems off to me.
Shame, since I do quite enjoy most of Bioware's games. Even the newer ones. But this just looks mediocre, like a different studio trying to mimic a Bioware style rpg.
how can you take the characters seriously without laughing hah
12:26 - She disappears behind the krogan npc in a cutscene. Right at 13:32 if you look closely npcs randomly pop in at the consoles. At 1:27:10 of course this is going around on the internet but Peebee's gun is backwards. Every singly play through I've watched these issues appear, so they're not some random glitch. I can get passed the awkward dialogue and facial animations but that shit? In a 2017 AAA game? One of the most anticipated games in the last 4 years? I mean.. as much as I want to defend this game being a long time ME fan and all. I know the animations are coded into the game and wont be fixed day one, but does anyone know if the issues I pointed out will be addressed in a patch come the 21st? Via developer comments on twitter or something? I have the delux reserved(not payed for) but I refuse to pick up the game in a state like this. Thanks in advance if anyone knows anything about this.
Why does everyone's shoulder looks permashrugged?
We got this, fuck stick.
It's not half bad, they need to replace the eyes with some different tech though.
Scanning in Zelda: What a cool mechanic!
Scanning in anything else: lol this sucks!
Its really crazy hearing them talk about "there's no way this could tank hard enough for this to kill a sequel" after it killed the freakin series entirely. If only they knew how true it would become lol
The characters doesn't have facial and body expression during the dialogues and argues?! WTF this a 2017 RPG game, how it doesn't have it?!
The Nomad's middle tires clip through the fucking vehicle every time it jumps, how the fuck did no one notice that? its like the central fucking thing they banged on about for fucking ages, and the middle tire is just...... ARRRRRGH! (Yes I turn into a pirate when I'm angry)
The "Arkham Origins" of the Mass Effect series xD
Is the Salarian played by Dinesh from Silicon Valley?