The Top 10 Turntable Mistakes Audiophiles Make!
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- Опубліковано 1 лип 2024
- Are you making some of the most common mistakes made with Turntables? If you find yourself answering yes to any of the top 10, then you can start improving performance of your Turntable today!
0:00 Intro
1:02 #1 Alignment
2:06 #2 The Tonearm
3:44 #3 Weight
5:15 #4 Expensive Cartridges
7:35 #5 Priorities
15:09 #6 Vibration
19:30 #7 Hum
23:01 #8 The Howl
24:52 #9 Tags
26:26 #10 Tonearm Rewire
28:03 BONUS Mistake #11
30:22 BONUS Mistake #12
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Geat Video, During the pandemic I rethought and made a Real Digital Turntable. Love!! the tripod analogy because it also applies to speakers
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I agree 💯
Ohio ?? looks like you are at Nanna and Poppa's sun room In West Palm Beach Fl circa 1981. Thanks for sharing the useful info.
Well, I currently live in Virginia so that my wife, who received a heart transplant and I could be near my son for support. He was a Nuke in the Navy at that time. It also put us closer to the Cleveland Clinic than Utah, which is where my wife lived with her family. Same for me so now I can get into my store in Cincinnati more frequently.
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I was a avid audiofool in the mid 70's most of the things you spoke about half of I did not know and you are right on the things you spoke of I did not know about the cart alignment azimuth overhang of the cart ,I know them now and have improved the sound coming from my records ,records that had distortion sound clear now most of my TT's I have are from early 70's I would never look at record player that had a ceramic cart ,now I do not have as I am watching this vid what I see as a high end TT I had a love for Duals,Garrards,and many of the other TT's of the early 70's ,I do not think you would say these are high end TT's from watching this vid but I love them ,a lot of the TT's I have were used in which I had to repair and or clean up ,some of my Dual turntables like my did have hum like the1009 sk when I first got it if you touched or even looked at it wrong it would hum badly so I found cleaning up the contacts for cart and the muting switch and replacing the rca cables has stopped all humming the only one I need to fix is my 1246 dual the rca cables are bad and I will end up replacing those after fixing up my original onkyo cp-1055f from 1985 it has a broken gear that helps move the tone arm ,I have never experienced howl from any of my TT's and I have 8 at this time running all of my tt's are higher placed then where my speakers are located so being above speakers I get no howl ,I do not consider myself an audiophile ,I even helped fix a BSR with a ceramic cart for some one and helped him find a amp that can handle the ceramic cart ,they do not sound bad if you have the right amp todays newer amps cannot handle them , all I can say is that I am a lover of music I tried to get the best that I can afford to play my music I have incorporated everything you have talked about to the best of my ability with the funds I am able to afford without shedding my responsibilty as a family man ,but I see this channel may not be for me I love the speakers in the background as you started the vid and the system on the audio rack is fine looking ,am not a lover of manual turntables ,I use stacking types of players ,I work hard for a living and I do not have the time to sit and try to relax and listen to records when I have to keep jumping up to change or stop record , the units I use are very gentle when dropping record and I have not seen any scratches on record or heard any kind of noise coming from turntable itself ,I do have a Pro-ject debut 3 TT and a audio-technica atlp-120 usb both use the ortophon sme -20 carts and are manual my favorite manual if I have to name one is my pro-ject TT with the acrylic platter I got for it sounds great but thats when I am not exhausted ,I did enjoy what you had to say and you are very good you know your stuff but you seem to me like the high end turntables are your specialty and thats something I can't see me watching thanks again JRo
Well, bless your heart for taking on Duals and all those lovely contact surfaces. You have learned well. Not sure where you are but take a look at the Benjamin Miracord decks as well. Idler wheel drive. Very heavy platters. I have rebuilt a couple of those and your Dual experiences will help you a lot.
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Nice set of tips. I’ve brought my Linn up to a really nice standard with a combination of new factory parts and some carefully selected after market ones. The cartridge is a nice compromise at the moment, being an Audio Technica AT-OC9XSL, but won’t be upgraded until I can source an Ekos 2 arm at the right price to replace the Akito.
A fine choice of cartridges and well matched to Linn arms. Remember, after about 60 hours of use, the AT will become mated to the Akito and should not be remounted but run out of it's useful like on the Akito.
@@audibleeleganceinc thanks for the tip. I’m not in a rush to replace the arm, so there’s every chance arm and cartridge will be replaced at the same time in due course. 😊
A baker’s dozen is 13, one extra for the baker😅
Congrat's you caught my mistake! I recognized it as soon as I watched my video and said to myself "aw, crap." Thanks for picking that out. You were the first one! But we do these unscripted, shot pretty much like live TV and I am human after all.
I'm alway shocked when i hear how people miss handle their tonearms. I have a thorens 160 Super turntable with a 12 inch Grey 707 that i bot in the mid 70s and it still works like brand new and i play my turntable 4 to 6 hours a day so you can't say that i probably don't use it very much and that's why the tone arm is still good.
John, I kept one back when I referred to a "baker's dozen." A baker's dozen is 13, not 12. So far, you are the closest to spotting it. Thank you for caring about what you own. Of course, I guess I am assuming people even know what a baker's dozen is.
It saddens me to see all these used tables come in that they just paid stupid money to buy used. More often times than not, the seller has no clue, find's a piece of junk at a yard sale, flea market, ebay, whatever, and is merely turning it at whatever the market will fetch. They don't give a rat's ass about if it is any good, they just see profit.
By the way, older Thorens turntables have a suspension that can be tuned but dealers were never trained how to do it. It was merely sold turnkey like a can of beans at a grocery store.
@@audibleeleganceinc Yes i know what a baker's dozen is. The stereo shop that I bought it from still exist today and the original owner of the store still run's it I have a good rapport with him and threw the years i have learn how to set up my turntable by using his technicians and thanks to the Internet I was able to contact a man who used to work for thorens which helped me to learn even more about my turntable and plus UA-cam shows like yours that are trying to help people with their stereo equipment keep up the good work you are doing i enjoy watching your show.
@John W. Graovac Time for the Baker's Dozen, then, my friend. Never move a turntable with the platter on and if transporting, you remove both the counterweight and raise the inner platter so that does not bang the bearing against the thrust plate at the bottom of the bearing well. Of course, the platter is off as well. Well done, John, well done.
Tonearm is a funny item.
It is so contractions.. the tonearm create fundamental issues in it's nature. And all those high end tonearms try to solve in a. Way or in some other way and they can't make physics to disappear that they introduced by them self. 😅
The goal of a tonearm is to hold the cartridge but let it be free in the same time.
So imagine a cartridge tracking the groove and a perfect tonearm is no tonearm at all..
Then we realize that a tonearm is the root to all problems.
A tonearm should hold the cartridge at the specific right position (SRA, zenith, overhang, alignment), applied VTF and antiscate.
That's all, and the vibration control from the pivot end or the stylus end.
So all the fancy tonearms try to outperform each other just in that aspect "vibrations".. after they have performed all the basic requirements mentioned above.
So the easiest and "brilliant" solution to the problem is to mount something in-between the cartridge and the tonearm.
To consume the vibrations from the pivot point or the stylus point.
And that is very easy to get solved with a product from funk firm called Houdini.
That hold the cartridge in a specific position decoupled from the tonearm and all the issues are solved! That a fancy and very highly priced tonearm TRY to solve with computer calculated tonearm tubes that should dampen/absorb the same issues (vibrations) that it is contributing from itself when offering a mounting point a distance away from the pivot point!
So in practice a tonearm is only trying to solve it own issues that it has created by itself.
By using a Houdini on a basic tonearm will solve the most issues that is created by the tonearm itself.
And therefore the tonearm performance on that Basic tonearm is on par with any high cost exclusive tonearm!
But we as always fall in the trap that this and that exclusive material/technical fix to solve this and that is just stroking our brain and egos with the high $$$.😢😂❤
Well, it is an interesting idea but keep in mind that you are adding mass out on the end of the tonearm which affects inertia and raises questions about the cartridge compliance.
At $350 to $400 for such an item, I would certainly need a demonstration of such a product before commenting on it. I have seen a lot of "widgets" over 40 years and few make it long term. I also have to wonder about the life expectancy of such an item that uses a "soft" suspension. Most soft material either dries out or turns to goo at some point like the rage for sorbothane feet. I also know that certain parts of the world are notorious for pollution so bad that is destroys wet-suits hanging in closets.
It may be a fine product. However, as a merchant, I also have to ponder a lot of things for my customers like life expectancy, consistency, and sometimes the long term effect that product may have on other items. Stereophile and Armor-all comes to mind on that one.
I don’t think “real” audiophiles would make any of these mistakes. Everyone else watch this video and learn what not to do👍
You are likely right in the truest sense but there are a lot of self proclaimed audiophiles. Then, there's the need to use words to catch people's attention so that they actually watch. I've seen a lot of other things like "audiophiles" applying mortite to the inside of platters to dampen the ringing which is in total disregard of balance and that was on a $4,000 Linn LP12. So, one never knows. Thank you for taking the time to comment and please share the site with others.
buy anything BUT A LINN IS A GREAT START.........
Oh, I am definitely not so sure about that approach. I've seen plenty of other horror stories and some of them new.