@@KishorJoshiMCh oh. Ok. I didn't know that... I am from the south (Malabar) that's why I was amazed to see a fair skinned Indian who supposedly looked like a foreigner speaking Hindi better than me. Well... It's good to know new things. Thanks for the information.
Tom Alter's son speaks such good hindi. Just like his father - the wonderful Alter sahab. Nice to hear the son - conducting such Utube programmes. Smart young man. Looks phirangi - YET- so very Indian. Bless you- Jamie Alter.
Amazing, I am so impressed listening to this gentleman's Hindi. I have met many Indians and even some of my Indian friends speaking lousy Hindi. Well done Jamie you are very impressive.
But we are thankful to O P sab for bringing these beautiful songs from West. Remember, an average Indian had no access to Western music in, those days. So nothing wrong in this
Love this! I am an American and I know all these Hindi songs! Never realized they were copied…but now that Jamie has made me aware, I DO know the American versions! But, I like the Hindi versions so much better!
Mr Tom Alter was much more than an actor. He was a charming human being with a golden heart. He was also very highly intelligent and that is something that was also genetic to him as his brother also possessed that razor sharp with intelligence. Mr Tom Alters command of Hindi was much better than most of us who are commenting on this video, and his knowledge of Urdu was on a whole different level. He lived a vibrant and full life bringing his lovely sense of humour to every situation and had a highly inspiring and infectious can do attitude. He was as happy to do plays and tv series as any movie. I am just writing all this to express my opinion that he was not very deeply affected by being underrated as an actor. A man who is so secure in his own self lives mostly in the moment. And yes the industry type casts people based on their looks and colour. Mr Alter probably didn't want to do the normal hero type dancing in front of 50 background dancers singing love duets. I'm sorry Jamie if I'm presuming to know your wonderful father too much. If it is offensive in any way kindly holler and i will delete this treatise.
OP was a small fish in the business of plagiarism. With no formal training in music, he also managed to give pleasant non- plagiarized songs. Because he had the back up of excellent singers, he could Indianize his copied tunes very well. Now if you were to talk about a major “offender”, Shankar of SJ would top the list. Others like Hemant Kumar and even SD Burman occasionally lifted tunes but they camouflaged their songs pretty good to hide the origins of some of their songs. And I don’t even wanna go into the 1980s or 90s ! You presented it pretty good, Jamie. Thanks 👍👍👍
@@narendermakhijani9512And pretended that he was so above the other"ordinary" music directors and his songs were so different from their Indian songs.
Very very good video! Beautifully narrated! Copied, but more enjoyable than the original ... at least for me. OP was my favorite! All his songs in the 50s are very nostalgic! Thanks for such an enjoyable video!
James Alter has done a marvelous job of catching some highly reputable music maestros of Indian film industry. With his impeccable hindi accent, he must understand that Indian films and film goers demand a song for every silly situation..like happy, sad, wedding, breakups, etc. So, each indian film had 6 to 8 songs. Where will these poor guys go for tunes??? Anyways, hats off to the Indian lyricists for providing lyrics to these so-called lifted tunes...!!!
@@EnKay0000 I'm having a huge fight with Harvard over Harvard refusing to act against their President despite nearly 40 counts of Plagiarism. Shocking that nobody in Massachusetts or the entire US took Harvrd to task even when a student wrote any anonymous letter in the Harvard Crimson expressing fears that Harvrd has one standard for faculty and another for students on Academic Dishonesty/Plagairism.
Yes it is. Because none in foreign countries are recollecting their songs in their daily life. Where as in BHARATH, people love to HUM / Sing Songs at their pleasure, (even those who were not born at the time of Movie was produced). Nowadays in the mobile regime everything is in the grip of 5 fingers. (Before mobiles were invented, bap re bap we have bought Gramaphone Records, Tapes, etc. Only for limited utility) Praise, Bless the Person who INVENTED THE VALUABLE MOBILE -- ENTIRE UNIVERSE & BEYOND IN OUR 5 FINGERS).
That's not the point. If they wanted to remakes or adapt the songs for India, they should have legally bought the rights. What they did is stealing. It's theft of intellectual property. They stole someone else's work, claimed it as their own, made a ton of money from it, without crediting and compensating the original creators and owners.
Well said, Agree ur point. Copy karne ke liye bhi Akal Chahiye, Many cases of direct lift & copy. Japanese Fuzi Matsuri - Song name Kitaro. Used as title track for Film Gupt.
कुछ गाने नैयर सब का बचपन से मेरे दिमाग़ में छा गया है जैसे (पुकारता चला हूँ मैं, रोका कई बार मैंने -फ़िल्म 'मेरे सनम ', "चल अकेला चल अकेला /फ़िल्म सीआईडी, गीता मेरा नाम,. अन्तिम compose किया हुआ फ़िल्म का गाना "किसी हसीन यार की तलाश है "
Lakhon hai yahan dilwale is one of my favorite song. In the A.I. era we are missing those emotions and efforts taken by the singers. Mahendra Kapoor will never be recreated
Many stalwarts from that golden era lifted tunes straight from western songs not thinking that the world will shrink to become a global village in half a century. “Itna na mujhse tu pyar badha” is an extremely blatant example.
Yeah. If they wanted to remakes or adapt the songs for India, they should have legally bought the rights. What they did is stealing. It's theft of intellectual property. They stole someone else's work, claimed it as their own, made loads of money off it, without crediting and compensating the original creators and owners.
@@pruray @praveenchaddha Stunning....shocking...even songs like Jab Koi Baat Bigad Jaye...Jab Koi Mushkil Pad Jaye...just shocking when we learn the truth...many music 'composers' turn out to be 'imposters'
@@pradeepsinha3201 OK. But did Mr Chaudhury tell the audience that he reconstituted the Original Mozart? That is the point. Give due credit to the original creator and give royalty if it applies.
@@SSrikanth-oo1dz When an Indian composer says he/she is 'inspired', it means IP of some other composer is blatantly STOLEN. In the case of Salil Chaudhary, it was a bit different. He publicly stated that “Itna na mujhse tu pyar badha” was his tribute to Mozart, a kind of acknowledging and giving due credit to original composer.
Wow! Big appreciation for western artists who have such big hearts and never complained. Even today, many Western tunes and stories are being stolen, but they never say a word.
That's not the point. If they wanted to remakes or adapt the songs for India, they should have legally bought the rights. What they did is stealing. It's theft of intellectual property. They stole someone else's work, claimed it as their own and made loads of money from it, without crediting and compensating the original creators and owners.
I would say it's more an improvisation than an inspiration bcoz the so called copied is more melodious than the so called original... it goes according to my taste too
I always thought many songs didn't sound Indian but were fun to listen now I know they were copied from Western songs with Western style music. Thanks for uploading this video. 👍
I believe it needs higher level of creativity.Many Artists have moulded original tunes into better or best versions with transformation into different language and situation.Bhartiya cinema music is amalgamation of Our own and World music.Thanks nice video 🤗🙌
That's not the point. If they wanted to remakes or adapt the songs for India, they should have legally bought the rights. What they did is stealing. It's theft of intellectual property. They stole someone else's work and claimed it as their own without crediting and compensating the original creators and owners.
I was nurturing a dream to see this film one day as it was the first film of India made by great film maker Phalke. It is great experience to watch such a film of silent era. Quality wise it was not lacking in any way from the silent films of west.
Yes, the inspired songs mostly at least up to eighties, were a few lines of the Mukhra ( the same is done world over known as sampling) or a piece of music. The music director now has to compose a matching prelude, interlude and most difficult, a matching antara ( which Western songs do not have ). Here some have failed and some excelled. Inspiration or adaptation must be expanded with own compositions that merge seamlessly musically and then only a memorable song is created or recreated. Otherwise it is just a poor copy doing injustice even to the original
One must also admit the talent of O.P. Nayyar Saab in bringing out those songs with such a Nice background music n songs sung so well, though the background copied. Thank u.
As a 71 yr old person who grew up with the 60's golden age of Hindi films' music, especially of O.P. Nayyar, i feel his songs were better than the original. And adapting it to Indian music ws amazing.
Few songs are partially copied and few fully copied but in both the cases copied songs are far better than original because of musical refinement of genious O P Nayyar Saab ❤.
That's not the point. If they wanted to remakes or adapt the songs for India, they should have legally bought the rights. What they did is stealing. It's theft of intellectual property. They stole someone else's work and claimed it as their own without crediting and compensating the original creators and owners.
@alexiofernandes2728 Yes. Easier to tweak than come with original tuned from scratch. And also when saying Indian version sounds better than the original is sheer stupidity as being Indians with will always prefer the Indianised version with Indian instruments.
I have heard PERHAPS 100 times without realising it’s Babujee dheere.. great.. nice to hear Mexican original version. Thanks for these beautiful old jewels.
Thanks to Indian musicians who used great global tunes to make immortal Hindi songs otherwise Millions would never have enjoyed them. OP & SJ composed many songs with own tunes. Naushad mentioned that he used several local folk songs' tunes in his songs. All good as it brought prime entertainment to many.
Thank you for interestimg update,👍 but i think OP has improved on the original and adapted to our sit. It is not wrong because he was a highly gifted talent 👍
Greetings Jamie Mukund here, We are communicating first time and its pleasure communicating. You have rightly pointed out how famous hindi songs are copied from other songs by noted people. When I came to know this I am hurt I feel bad, Why people violate others intellectual property. ??? They should take proper permission pay companion and then use. You have done a great work by bringing these thing to the notice of general people. thank you very much.
Very nice video. I love listening to old western music and discovered these copies a while back. I’m conflicted about how I feel. OP Nayyar made memorable music that is appreciated till today. At that time, it was much harder detect copies and he always “added” to the original. Anu Malik on the other hand… 😂😂
Wonderful and educational video Jamie. Just like your amazing dad's, your voice too is so pleasant to the ears. And my dad was such a great and ardent believer in O P Nayyar sahabs creativity and talent that he would have been shocked to know there was a bit of inspiration that fueled his imagination and beautiful tunes.
I saw this movie in 1961 or 62 when a kid. I still remember fond memories of opening credits showing couples riding Lambretta scooters on the beat of this timeless music. Ehat golden age of cinema of bygone days
Heard today Jamie again and The More U hear him,the more of a Darling he becomes.ThankU Jamie,you are a gem,You makeBharat Proud.And,in case,you are The Legendry Tom Alter's son, then a double salute,ie 1+ forYour Late,Respected,Loveable,Unforgettable Swanky Dad.JaiHind JaiBharat.
That's not the point. If they wanted to remakes or adapt the songs for India, they should have legally bought the rights. What they did is stealing. It's theft of intellectual property. They stole someone else's work, claimed it as their own, made loads of money from it, without crediting and compensating the original creators and owners.
Thank You Alter sahib. One forever popular song that I was waiting for was “ Dekho kasam se dekho kasam se..” from the movie Tumsa nahi dekha picturised on Shammi Kapoor and Ameeta. It was also inspired from “ Kiss me baby…hold me baby” . But here the improvisation was long lived and long cherished by Hindi film song aficionado like us👏👏
That's not the point. If they wanted to remakes or adapt the songs for India, they should have legally bought the rights. What they did is stealing. It's theft of intellectual property. They stole someone else's work, claimed it as their own, made loads of money from it, without crediting and compensating the original creators and owners.
The voice & style of Jamie is so close to his late father the fantastic actor Tom Alter & whose love for hindi films was amazing. And his urdu diction would put many urdu speaking people in awe. The presentation of this programme by Jamie is very appealing and reflects its smartness primarily owing to its brevity without expanding it unnecessarily unlike other similar videos on 'copied songs'.
OP Nayyar saheb is a legend.His some songs may be inspired from western tunes so nothing wrong in it.Look at his original work. A person stealing tunes from different regions can't rule over Bollywood music industry for more than 3 decades. Humble tribute to legendary OP Nayyar saheb ❤🙏
My friend I disagree, intellectual property should not be stolen. You should take the permission of the original composer. The tune must have been developed after years of practice and much more. IT IS WRONG TO STEAL TUNES.
Western market is and was a far bigger market. Our music directors did copy songs from here and there. BUT the number is too small to be highlighted this way. Do you know OPN vinyl records go for highest value? Our MDs are geniuses. They are the real soul of Hindi film music.
nice resarch Sir. good to know the original tunes. thank you.🙏Still a phenominal composer Nayyar saheb 🙏I love his Aap ke haseen rukh pe song sung by Mohd.Rafi saheb and many other songs.
Har kalakar bhi ek chor hi hota hai.. lekin kala ki chori koi chori nahi ya paap nahi.. Jo nakal ko bhi asal se jyada khubsurat banaye, madhur aur ajaramar banaye, aise har kalakar ko mera desh salaam karata hai 🎉🎉❤
Each of the Bollywood's top composers in those days had to compose innumerable numbers in each year. The total number of songs that any one of them had to handle on a single year could have challenged the numbers brought out by a Hollywood music composer in his life time. Still, these geniuses, either from Bengal or Punjab or Maharashtra or from elsewhere brought out unimerable hits in every year with outstanding tunes which are still mesmerizing and have become legends. With so many numbers to roll out regularly in time, as a music director, to ease the pressure, occasionally they were either inspired or even copied pre-composed items. Still there skill, dedication and ability were extraordinary and deserve salute.
Like RDB...OP also nicely decorated the not so listenworthy English songs to Indian flavours and taste and and got support of extraordinary singers and turned those songs into remember worthy jewels.
O p nayar sahab was inspired by these songs and substantially modified them in the Indian context. One or two of them were exact copy though. He created hundreds of songs.
That's not the point. If they wanted to remakes or adapt the songs for India, they should have legally bought the rights. What they did is stealing. It's theft of intellectual property. They stole someone else's work and claimed it as their own without crediting and compensating the original creators and owners.
A wonderful son of a wonderful father ,🙏 Jamie Alter, your research and hard working is amazing , and on the top of that , you have a wonderful command of Urdu like your respected father Tom Alter ,now I'm also your fan ( like your father) , may Allah keep you always happy and safe 🙏, Ameen By the way Dear Jamie can you also read Urdu?
Like father ❤ I miss ur dad. A legend. Remember his first appearance in Shatranj Ke Khilari. By Satyajit Ray. Especially the scene with Richard Attenborough.
नकल् के लिए भी अकल की जरूरत होती है यहाँ तो O. P. साहब ने जरूरत से ज्यादा ही अकल का प्रयोग किया है,.. कॉपी किया सोंग ओरिजिनल से भी ज्यादा प्रभावी और यादगार बने है... O. P. Sahab को भाव भीनी श्रधांजलि 🙏🙏🙏.
I personally like old Hindi Music and grew up listening to Mohd Rafi and Kishore Da. Bollywood being influenced by global music is not a problem, but not giving credit is. Our public is so straightforward and trusting that they are not aware that our God like music directors, behind closed doors, love to copy tunes from around the world and pass it off as original. Creating original music is not easy. It can take many months and a lot of trial and error to compose one. Even after that song may flop. Success ratio is less than 10%. But have we wondered how our music directors quickly churn out 80% or 90% hit songs from a single movie in just a few days? You guessed it - by copying! But thanks to UA-cam, it cannot remain hidden for long 😀. I think there is plenty of talent in India that can create great original music loved by people around the world. However this can happen only after we stop glorifying copied music.
Oh man! Even the legends of old had a dark side :) OP Nayyar sahab did adapt those really well but probably part of the magic was the caliber of singers he had access to - Rafi sahab, asha etc.
Enjoyed the compilation. Enjoyed your diction too. My eyes almost dropped out of their sockets when I heard your Hindi. Amazing. Was a great fan of your dad as well. Keep these coming!
thats because they are from your language , people who don't understand hindi , but know the origianl songs will definitly love them more and hate the copies
Bhai ..inspired hai but same to same copy paste nahi Kiya hai. O P Nayyar sahab ki music arrangement composition bahut hi umdaa aur different hai. He was a Legend will remain a legend.
That's not the point. If they wanted to remakes or adapt the songs for India, they should have legally bought the rights. What they did is stealing. It's theft of intellectual property. They stole someone else's work and claimed it as their own without crediting and compensating the original creators and owners.
Thanks for making this video. My view towards 90s songs always had the 'inspired' angle and it would now go way behind when I listen to them in future. I'm sure our music also has been an inspiration for the rest of the world and makes for an interesting video (Raj Kapoor songs, Jimmy..jimmy are a few to mention).
It's not inspiration. It's straight up stealing. If they wanted to remakes or adapt the songs for India, they should have legally bought the rights. What they did is stealing. It's theft of intellectual property. They stole someone else's work and claimed it as their own without crediting and compensating the original creators and owners.
So no one is mentioning how flawlessly he is speaking Hindi 😮. Even as an Indian, i can't even speak this good hindi. good job man 👍🏻
Because he is Indian, just fair skinned that’s all!
He is born and brought up in India just like his father Tom Alter who was asked the same question while speaking Hindi.
He is Indian. More Indian than most of us here.
@@KishorJoshiMCh oh. Ok. I didn't know that... I am from the south (Malabar) that's why I was amazed to see a fair skinned Indian who supposedly looked like a foreigner speaking Hindi better than me. Well... It's good to know new things. Thanks for the information.
Hats off to him
Like father ...like son....a moist eye for the late Tom Alter......thanks for this video......❤❤❤❤
Is he son of late great Tom Alter sahab. Miss him
@@kirandeep33
Yes Sir
He is son of
Tom Alter Sahab.
Tom Alter's son speaks such good hindi. Just like his father - the wonderful Alter sahab.
Nice to hear the son - conducting such Utube programmes.
Smart young man. Looks phirangi - YET- so very Indian. Bless you- Jamie Alter.
The copied tunes are also very well created but so very Indian and sound so good.❤
Was wondering how come he is spkg such good hindi
اپ کی الفاظ کی ادایگی اور چناو بے مثال ہے
کان ترس گے اچھی اردو کا سننے کے لیے
پاکستان میں اسمارٹ۔ سمارٹ۔ اور اسلام۔ سلام بن گیا جہالت
Amazing, I am so impressed listening to this gentleman's Hindi. I have met many Indians and even some of my Indian friends speaking lousy Hindi. Well done Jamie you are very impressive.
I grew up with hindi songs in late 50's. I will still prefer op songs over the original ones.
How old are you sir
Most of the song in late 50s written in Urdu, how can you say Hindi song?
Copied songs are far better than the original ones.❤️🧡💛💚💜💙🩵
I am fan of Shri O.P. Nayyar, Meanwhile I also salute the original ones, the Inspirers.
But we are thankful to O P sab for bringing these beautiful songs from West. Remember, an average Indian had no access to Western music in, those days. So nothing wrong in this
JAMIE finds ALTERed songs of Bollywood so nicely !
Good one😊
Good one!
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Nice one 👍
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Tom Alter was an fabulous, multitalented actor. I was not knowing that you are his son. It's great to know this .I wish you all the best.Stay blessed
Love this! I am an American and I know all these Hindi songs! Never realized they were copied…but now that Jamie has made me aware, I DO know the American versions! But, I like the Hindi versions so much better!
Actually, when you copy, it's like building something on a draft. The end product will generally be better than the draft. 😊
My God who is this Hindi speaking foreigner anchor.
Excellent, amazing.
I know right. ❤
Handsome foreigner
I really liked your Father Mr.Tom Alter...he was a very underrated actor, he deserved much more from this Flim industry...
Mr Tom Alter was much more than an actor. He was a charming human being with a golden heart. He was also very highly intelligent and that is something that was also genetic to him as his brother also possessed that razor sharp with intelligence. Mr Tom Alters command of Hindi was much better than most of us who are commenting on this video, and his knowledge of Urdu was on a whole different level. He lived a vibrant and full life bringing his lovely sense of humour to every situation and had a highly inspiring and infectious can do attitude. He was as happy to do plays and tv series as any movie. I am just writing all this to express my opinion that he was not very deeply affected by being underrated as an actor. A man who is so secure in his own self lives mostly in the moment. And yes the industry type casts people based on their looks and colour. Mr Alter probably didn't want to do the normal hero type dancing in front of 50 background dancers singing love duets. I'm sorry Jamie if I'm presuming to know your wonderful father too much. If it is offensive in any way kindly holler and i will delete this treatise.
Agree.
OP was a small fish in the business of plagiarism. With no formal training in music, he also managed to give pleasant non- plagiarized songs. Because he had the back up of excellent singers, he could Indianize his copied tunes very well.
Now if you were to talk about a major “offender”, Shankar of SJ would top the list.
Others like Hemant Kumar and even SD Burman occasionally lifted tunes but they camouflaged their songs pretty good to hide the origins of some of their songs.
And I don’t even wanna go into the 1980s or 90s !
You presented it pretty good, Jamie.
Thanks
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Great Salil Chuadhary also took help from Western music
no one can differentiate between copy and inspiration. there is a minor difference between them
Shankar! Really?
@@MeinBoloonYes, really. Aji eisa mouka firkaha from Beethoven Fur Else and Jane taman Sola badan also But not exact copies
@@narendermakhijani9512And pretended that he was so above the other"ordinary" music directors and his songs were so different from their Indian songs.
Very very good video! Beautifully narrated! Copied, but more enjoyable than the original ... at least for me. OP was my favorite! All his songs in the 50s are very nostalgic! Thanks for such an enjoyable video!
Sir all songs are different music...Hindi music are wonderful by O.P.Naiyyar🎉❤🎉
Whatever you say but O P Nayyar work is evergreen and Everlasting.
Yes - he did not copy - he was inspired and he made the songs way better
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I cannot find any similarities.
Copy cata
I couldn't find any similarity..
Adapatability is in itself a great creation. One must appreciate it. Instead of criticizing with eye of doubting everything.
Well. You are right Jamie. Great. You are also best as your Dad. GOD bless u and your family 💖💐🥰👍👏🤝🤩
He did full justice to those songs. Even yet the copied songs have the mark of O P Nayyar.
James Alter has done a marvelous job of catching some highly reputable music maestros of Indian film industry. With his impeccable hindi accent, he must understand that Indian films and film goers demand a song for every silly situation..like happy, sad, wedding, breakups, etc. So, each indian film had 6 to 8 songs. Where will these poor guys go for tunes??? Anyways, hats off to the Indian lyricists for providing lyrics to these so-called lifted tunes...!!!
Can't justify theft of intellectual property this way...
@@EnKay0000 I'm having a huge fight with Harvard over Harvard refusing to act against their President despite nearly 40 counts of Plagiarism. Shocking that nobody in Massachusetts or the entire US took Harvrd to task even when a student wrote any anonymous letter in the Harvard Crimson expressing fears that Harvrd has one standard for faculty and another for students on Academic Dishonesty/Plagairism.
James now should explore more n do some research on what all knowledge and basic concepts are copied from Indian culture 😂
As one says'nakal mein bhi akal lagta hay',the 'copied' versions were equally good'.💕💕
No, not at all…
Yes it is. Because none in foreign countries are recollecting their songs in their daily life. Where as in BHARATH, people love to HUM / Sing Songs at their pleasure, (even those who were not born at the time of Movie was produced). Nowadays in the mobile regime everything is in the grip of 5 fingers. (Before mobiles were invented, bap re bap we have bought Gramaphone Records, Tapes, etc. Only for limited utility) Praise, Bless the Person who INVENTED THE VALUABLE MOBILE -- ENTIRE UNIVERSE & BEYOND IN OUR 5 FINGERS).
That's not the point. If they wanted to remakes or adapt the songs for India, they should have legally bought the rights.
What they did is stealing. It's theft of intellectual property. They stole someone else's work, claimed it as their own, made a ton of money from it, without crediting and compensating the original creators and owners.
@@pruray People don't seem to recognize the concept of intellectual property until their own work is stolen.
Well said, Agree ur point.
Copy karne ke liye bhi Akal Chahiye,
Many cases of direct lift & copy.
Japanese Fuzi Matsuri - Song name Kitaro. Used as title track for Film Gupt.
कुछ गाने नैयर सब का बचपन से मेरे दिमाग़ में छा गया है जैसे (पुकारता चला हूँ मैं, रोका कई बार मैंने -फ़िल्म 'मेरे सनम ', "चल अकेला चल अकेला /फ़िल्म सीआईडी, गीता मेरा नाम,. अन्तिम compose किया हुआ फ़िल्म का गाना "किसी हसीन यार की तलाश है "
Lakhon hai yahan dilwale is one of my favorite song. In the A.I. era we are missing those emotions and efforts taken by the singers. Mahendra Kapoor will never be recreated
It doesn't matter if he copied the tunes, we loved his music and cherish it always.
The adapted songs are much better than the originals !! Enjoyed our desi versions ❤
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No , sorry but the originals are simply amazing , the copies don't have that essense which the originals have
O. P. Nayyar's songs are very good ,there is nothing wrong in getting inspiration.
Many stalwarts from that golden era lifted tunes straight from western songs not thinking that the world will shrink to become a global village in half a century.
“Itna na mujhse tu pyar badha” is an extremely blatant example.
Yeah. If they wanted to remakes or adapt the songs for India, they should have legally bought the rights.
What they did is stealing. It's theft of intellectual property. They stole someone else's work, claimed it as their own, made loads of money off it, without crediting and compensating the original creators and owners.
@@pruray @praveenchaddha
Stunning....shocking...even songs like Jab Koi Baat Bigad Jaye...Jab Koi Mushkil Pad Jaye...just shocking when we learn the truth...many music 'composers' turn out to be 'imposters'
The Western critic has admitted that Late Shri Salil Chaudhury has reconstituted this Mozart composition in a much melodious way...
@@pradeepsinha3201 OK. But did Mr Chaudhury tell the audience that he reconstituted the Original Mozart? That is the point. Give due credit to the original creator and give royalty if it applies.
@@SSrikanth-oo1dz When an Indian composer says he/she is 'inspired', it means IP of some other composer is blatantly STOLEN. In the case of Salil Chaudhary, it was a bit different. He publicly stated that “Itna na mujhse tu pyar badha” was his tribute to Mozart, a kind of acknowledging and giving due credit to original composer.
Thanks Jemie Alter .
I am a great fan of Shree Tom Alter as well .
I think both the versions of all these songs are enjoyable.
Wow! Big appreciation for western artists who have such big hearts and never complained. Even today, many Western tunes and stories are being stolen, but they never say a word.
Congratulations..you also speak Hindi very fluently as your father....I was born and brought up by watching your father on Doordarshan
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The Indian version is the best. So there 😅
Can’t thank you enough! The final product was excellent and memorable! That’s what matters !
That's not the point. If they wanted to remakes or adapt the songs for India, they should have legally bought the rights.
What they did is stealing. It's theft of intellectual property. They stole someone else's work, claimed it as their own and made loads of money from it, without crediting and compensating the original creators and owners.
I would say it's more an improvisation than an inspiration bcoz the so called copied is more melodious than the so called original... it goes according to my taste too
@@pruray many have lifted/ utilised hit tunes from west but could deliver success in the local market !
Like father like son .amazing watching from FIJI ISLANDS 🇫🇯🇫🇯
Very good job. Thanks for the information. However these hindi songs are more melodious and much much better than original songs.
Excellent selections by Mr.Nayer for making his own tunes. Nothing wrong but a thing to learn to become famous in own field.
I always thought many songs didn't sound Indian but were fun to listen now I know they were copied from Western songs with Western style music. Thanks for uploading this video. 👍
I believe it needs higher level of creativity.Many Artists have moulded original tunes into better or best versions with transformation into different language and situation.Bhartiya cinema music is amalgamation of Our own and World music.Thanks nice video 🤗🙌
The great O P Nayyar ji created the evergreen gems out of the copied english songs and made them immortal 🤗
Stealing is not creation.
That's not the point. If they wanted to remakes or adapt the songs for India, they should have legally bought the rights.
What they did is stealing. It's theft of intellectual property. They stole someone else's work and claimed it as their own without crediting and compensating the original creators and owners.
@@farzein4002it's inspiration not stealing dear
@@djsaaho2565 nope, inspiration is something else.
This is blatant stealing.
@@farzein4002 if above is stealing then AR Rahman also copied many tunes
I was nurturing a dream to see this film one day as it was the first film of India made by great film maker Phalke. It is great experience to watch such a film of silent era. Quality wise it was not lacking in any way from the silent films of west.
Those western songs were so well Indianised. Fused with tabla very well.
Amazing man....to see you speak Hindi so fluently without any trace of any accent is impressive
I believe the reason these "inspired" songs worked and still work is because of the amazing work of the lyricists and singers of the respective songs.
It takes hard work to make a memorable song, inspired or original
Yes, the inspired songs mostly at least up to eighties, were a few lines of the Mukhra ( the same is done world over known as sampling) or a piece of music. The music director now has to compose a matching prelude, interlude and most difficult, a matching antara ( which Western songs do not have ). Here some have failed and some excelled. Inspiration or adaptation must be expanded with own compositions that merge seamlessly musically and then only a memorable song is created or recreated. Otherwise it is just a poor copy doing injustice even to the original
says people who rip off peoples' original ideas and work.
@@ranju56Absolutely right! Insane to compare OP Nayyar ji with Nadeem etc
A true artist always go for his own work not copy paste.
One must also admit the talent of O.P. Nayyar Saab in bringing out those songs with such a Nice background music n songs sung so well, though the background copied. Thank u.
As a 71 yr old person who grew up with the 60's golden age of Hindi films' music, especially of O.P. Nayyar, i feel his songs were better than the original. And adapting it to Indian music ws amazing.
Sandhya ji you are right.
Far better than original
Yes yes yes, nakli is far better than orginal ❤❤❤
@@somasaha8201 I wouldnt call it nakli
I totally agree 👍
Copied version is better than original one .
Anyway Mr. Alter your Hindi is great .
Got the inspiration from the others enjoy the songs of world music !❤🎉😊😮
Few songs are partially copied and few fully copied but in both the cases copied songs are far better than original because of musical refinement of genious O P Nayyar Saab ❤.
That's not the point. If they wanted to remakes or adapt the songs for India, they should have legally bought the rights.
What they did is stealing. It's theft of intellectual property. They stole someone else's work and claimed it as their own without crediting and compensating the original creators and owners.
Chori or sinajori
@alexiofernandes2728 Yes. Easier to tweak than come with original tuned from scratch. And also when saying Indian version sounds better than the original is sheer stupidity as being Indians with will always prefer the Indianised version with Indian instruments.
Any way , nice to learn that you are son of Tom saheb
welcome to bollywood world's biggest chapa factory
Love it...! I could never imagine your fluency in Hindi...!!
Three cheers for this wonderful study of Hindi film songs which were inspired by Western songs.
So nicely brought out!
यह संभव है,या सच है!लेकिन ओ.पी.नैय्यर साबित ने उसे जिस भारतीय रंग मे उसे ढाला है,वह ओरिजिनल से भी बेस्ट और LONG LASTING है! HATS UP TO O.P.NAYYAR ! ❤
I have heard PERHAPS 100 times without realising it’s Babujee dheere.. great.. nice to hear Mexican original version. Thanks for these beautiful old jewels.
Thanks to Indian musicians who used great global tunes to make immortal Hindi songs otherwise Millions would never have enjoyed them. OP & SJ composed many songs with own tunes. Naushad mentioned that he used several local folk songs' tunes in his songs. All good as it brought prime entertainment to many.
Just came across your channel, this is first video I saw, well researched and very informative. Well done Jamie saab!
Superb Superb Superb ❤ O P Nayar saab is one of my favorite music director, Thanks for this beautiful informative video.
Too good, every thing every aspect
That was really insightful however his rendition (copied) were even better then original ones .. 🍻
Aap ko dekhkar Tom Alter Sir yaad aate hain, bahut badiya actor the
Thank you for interestimg update,👍 but i think OP has improved on the original and adapted to our sit. It is not wrong because he was a highly gifted talent 👍
Greetings Jamie Mukund here,
We are communicating first time and its pleasure communicating.
You have rightly pointed out how famous hindi songs are copied from other songs by noted people.
When I came to know this I am hurt I feel bad, Why people violate others intellectual property. ???
They should take proper permission pay companion and then use.
You have done a great work by bringing these thing to the notice of general people.
thank you very much.
Very nice video. I love listening to old western music and discovered these copies a while back. I’m conflicted about how I feel. OP Nayyar made memorable music that is appreciated till today. At that time, it was much harder detect copies and he always “added” to the original. Anu Malik on the other hand… 😂😂
Wonderful and educational video Jamie. Just like your amazing dad's, your voice too is so pleasant to the ears. And my dad was such a great and ardent believer in O P Nayyar sahabs creativity and talent that he would have been shocked to know there was a bit of inspiration that fueled his imagination and beautiful tunes.
Thanks for your courage James for lifting the shroud on the originality of so many songs that I have loved for all these years.
जब तक सूरज चांद रहेगा तब तक ओपी नैय्यर साहब का नाम रहेगा ❤ शुभकामनाएं सर ❤
Chori mein maahir hain hi pandit, of course you support them
I saw this movie in 1961 or 62 when a kid. I still remember fond memories of opening credits showing couples riding Lambretta scooters on the beat of this timeless music. Ehat golden age of cinema of bygone days
Heard today Jamie again and The More U hear him,the more of a Darling he becomes.ThankU Jamie,you are a gem,You makeBharat Proud.And,in case,you are The Legendry Tom Alter's son, then a double salute,ie 1+ forYour Late,Respected,Loveable,Unforgettable Swanky Dad.JaiHind JaiBharat.
Thank You Jamie ji for this very nice video👌✨ 👩👧👧🌱🌺💖☮️🙏🏻
It takes extraordinary skills to lift a western tune add nativity and make it a hit and acceptable to Indian moviegoers!
That's not the point. If they wanted to remakes or adapt the songs for India, they should have legally bought the rights.
What they did is stealing. It's theft of intellectual property. They stole someone else's work, claimed it as their own, made loads of money from it, without crediting and compensating the original creators and owners.
@@pruray that’s their job ! Why didn’t they file a case against him ?
@@prakashrao8077 you are victim blaming. If there is theft, the thief is to be blamed, not the victim.
Chor is chor 😂
@@pruray stealing and lifting is common in western world. Read ( late) Satyajit Ray s about alien friend story!
Thank You Alter sahib. One forever popular song that I was waiting for was “ Dekho kasam se dekho kasam se..” from the movie Tumsa nahi dekha picturised on Shammi Kapoor and Ameeta. It was also inspired from “ Kiss me baby…hold me baby” . But here the improvisation was long lived and long cherished by Hindi film song aficionado like us👏👏
That's not the point. If they wanted to remakes or adapt the songs for India, they should have legally bought the rights.
What they did is stealing. It's theft of intellectual property. They stole someone else's work, claimed it as their own, made loads of money from it, without crediting and compensating the original creators and owners.
Was kiss me another kiss me another kiss another kiss
The voice & style of Jamie is so close to his late father the fantastic actor Tom Alter & whose love for hindi films was amazing. And his urdu diction would put many urdu speaking people in awe. The presentation of this programme by Jamie is very appealing and reflects its smartness primarily owing to its brevity without expanding it unnecessarily unlike other similar videos on 'copied songs'.
Very Interesting... However O.P Nayyar did justice to all by blending it so well with his characteristic flavour...
Been a great fan of Tom Alter sir...now you are doin a great job brother.keep it up.👍👍👍
Really? You did not feel he insulted Indians at the end?
🙏🏾 sirji I m from Karnataka India Mysore I m great fan of ur father and yours 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Nice to hear that. Thank you.
Bless you young lad! Grew up watching your dad!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Nice to see a comment from a Mysore vaasi. I am from your neighborhood town.
OP Nayyar saheb is a legend.His some songs may be inspired from western tunes so nothing wrong in it.Look at his original work.
A person stealing tunes from different regions can't rule over Bollywood music industry for more than 3 decades.
Humble tribute to legendary OP Nayyar saheb ❤🙏
My friend I disagree, intellectual property should not be stolen. You should take the permission of the original composer. The tune must have been developed after years of practice and much more.
IT IS WRONG TO STEAL TUNES.
But the Hindi version has put the soul, that makes the songs more touching ❤️🙏👍
Some are copied and some are inspired and there is a difference between coping and inspiring 😊
Western market is and was a far bigger market. Our music directors did copy songs from here and there. BUT the number is too small to be highlighted this way. Do you know OPN vinyl records go for highest value? Our MDs are geniuses. They are the real soul of Hindi film music.
This was such a fun video! And I really like the way the accent is perfect in each language
nice resarch Sir. good to know the original tunes. thank you.🙏Still a phenominal composer Nayyar saheb 🙏I love his Aap ke haseen rukh pe song sung by Mohd.Rafi saheb and many other songs.
Har kalakar bhi ek chor hi hota hai.. lekin kala ki chori koi chori nahi ya paap nahi..
Jo nakal ko bhi asal se jyada khubsurat banaye, madhur aur ajaramar banaye, aise har kalakar ko mera desh salaam karata hai 🎉🎉❤
Each of the Bollywood's top composers in those days had to compose innumerable numbers in each year. The total number of songs that any one of them had to handle on a single year could have challenged the numbers brought out by a Hollywood music composer in his life time. Still, these geniuses, either from Bengal or Punjab or Maharashtra or from elsewhere brought out unimerable hits in every year with outstanding tunes which are still mesmerizing and have become legends. With so many numbers to roll out regularly in time, as a music director, to ease the pressure, occasionally they were either inspired or even copied pre-composed items. Still there skill, dedication and ability were extraordinary and deserve salute.
Like RDB...OP also nicely decorated the not so listenworthy English songs to Indian flavours and taste and and got support of extraordinary singers and turned those songs into remember worthy jewels.
RD was overrated af. OP was legend. Don't compare horse with donkey
So O P nayyar was a thief too like RD burman
@@ronnieboy9666 copying a peice or two can't be called chori.
@@ronnieboy9666 .
Real theivs r..
Bappi Lahiri
Annu mallik
....still lifting will always be lifting....❤❤❤❤😂😂😂😂
O p nayar sahab was inspired by these songs and substantially modified them in the Indian context. One or two of them were exact copy though. He created hundreds of songs.
He was a brilliant composer.
That's not the point. If they wanted to remakes or adapt the songs for India, they should have legally bought the rights.
What they did is stealing. It's theft of intellectual property. They stole someone else's work and claimed it as their own without crediting and compensating the original creators and owners.
A wonderful son of a wonderful father ,🙏 Jamie Alter, your research and hard working is amazing , and on the top of that , you have a wonderful command of Urdu like your respected father Tom Alter ,now I'm also your fan ( like your father) , may Allah keep you always happy and safe 🙏, Ameen
By the way Dear Jamie can you also read Urdu?
Like father ❤
I miss ur dad. A legend. Remember his first appearance in Shatranj Ke Khilari. By Satyajit Ray. Especially the scene with Richard Attenborough.
Chahe kuchh bhi ho op sahab ne bhale hi unse inspire ho kar gaano me music Diya ho lekin Hindi me aake unka flow hi gajab tha
नकल् के लिए भी अकल की जरूरत होती है यहाँ तो O. P. साहब ने जरूरत से ज्यादा ही अकल का प्रयोग किया है,.. कॉपी किया सोंग ओरिजिनल से भी ज्यादा प्रभावी और यादगार बने है... O. P. Sahab को भाव भीनी श्रधांजलि 🙏🙏🙏.
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I personally like old Hindi Music and grew up listening to Mohd Rafi and Kishore Da. Bollywood being influenced by global music is not a problem, but not giving credit is. Our public is so straightforward and trusting that they are not aware that our God like music directors, behind closed doors, love to copy tunes from around the world and pass it off as original.
Creating original music is not easy. It can take many months and a lot of trial and error to compose one. Even after that song may flop. Success ratio is less than 10%. But have we wondered how our music directors quickly churn out 80% or 90% hit songs from a single movie in just a few days? You guessed it - by copying! But thanks to UA-cam, it cannot remain hidden for long 😀.
I think there is plenty of talent in India that can create great original music loved by people around the world. However this can happen only after we stop glorifying copied music.
@@aggarwald2002 All original songs are based on some or other inspiration.
Copy to copy hi hota hai lekin shram ki baat hai ye pura credit Lena chahte hai jaise Inka apna original hai aur legend kahlate hai
😂😂chal nikal.....chori chori hoti hai
Awesome stuff Jamie as usual And yes 2 composers who took inspiration from other songs are Anu Malik & Viju Shah 🤘🏻💯
The champion of copying was RD Burman
Oh! Really!
@echochamber8350 How many songs did R D Burman composed and how many of them are copied/inspired?
I loved Tom for his personality. Seeing you first time on a video. Best wishes.
Oh man! Even the legends of old had a dark side :) OP Nayyar sahab did adapt those really well but probably part of the magic was the caliber of singers he had access to - Rafi sahab, asha etc.
Those that say copied is better than the original are just showing the simplicity of their mind❤ Ignorance is bliss. Keep copying.
Enjoyed the compilation. Enjoyed your diction too. My eyes almost dropped out of their sockets when I heard your Hindi. Amazing. Was a great fan of your dad as well.
Keep these coming!
op tunes are more exhilarating than alleged original..😢
thats because they are from your language , people who don't understand hindi , but know the origianl songs will definitly love them more and hate the copies
Babuji dheere chalana song does not look like copied from that. A minor tone matches that does not mean its same song. Not even "lankho yaha dilwale"
A good copy is always better than old original one.
These are some excellent inspirations, can't call them copy
Bhai ..inspired hai but same to same copy paste nahi Kiya hai. O P Nayyar sahab ki music arrangement composition bahut hi umdaa aur different hai. He was a Legend will remain a legend.
Getting inspired by folk songs is O.K. We see greats like Mozart & Beethoven too got inspired. Inspiration will drive humanity's ingenious quest.
That's not the point. If they wanted to remakes or adapt the songs for India, they should have legally bought the rights.
What they did is stealing. It's theft of intellectual property. They stole someone else's work and claimed it as their own without crediting and compensating the original creators and owners.
Thanks for making this video. My view towards 90s songs always had the 'inspired' angle and it would now go way behind when I listen to them in future. I'm sure our music also has been an inspiration for the rest of the world and makes for an interesting video (Raj Kapoor songs, Jimmy..jimmy are a few to mention).
Nice comment
It's not inspiration. It's straight up stealing. If they wanted to remakes or adapt the songs for India, they should have legally bought the rights.
What they did is stealing. It's theft of intellectual property. They stole someone else's work and claimed it as their own without crediting and compensating the original creators and owners.
Once I had met Mr. Tom Alter in a Hotel I was working for. I always remember him.
Those days how OP Nayyar was getting to see such foreign films and listen to these songs ?