This has been talked about for nearly 50 years now, but this project has been one of the most advanced so far out of all the other proposals. And this will completely transform the entire country, enhancing regional communities, and connecting this huge country together!
Yeah, people would be much more willing to relocate to regional Australia if there are frequent-ish high-speed rail services that could bring them to city or major regional centres in 1-4 hours depending on the distance rather than the current 3-5 hours or even 12 hours of driving (12 hours one way driving from Sydney to Broken Hill for example). Just look at Japan and China and see how revolutionary their high-speed rail system is, and we should have our answers. We don't need another 50 years to debate. We need to do real construction now.
Maybe in the year 2075 or 3000. We just got the D sets after 5 years , and still waiting on the new replacement XPT so it will take another 50 years before we even get a proper "bullet train"
Being able to travel between Sydney and Brisbane in just four hours would be amazing. I intensely dislike flying, but I also really dislike spending the better part of 24 hours getting a sore backside on the train - this would be the best of both worlds.
A high-speed rail in Australia would be fantastic. It’s something we definitely need. However, I’ve been hearing promises about it all my life so I won’t hold my breath 😂
This gets rolled out just before an election. There have been many proposals for high speed rail over the past 50 years but it just stalls, we definitely need it to link the east coast capital cities and the regional centres who are priced out of affordable aircraft services.
It would be great if there was a fast rail on the east coast, but I think Sydney to Newcastle is probably the wrong first step. Why? The terrain would be costly to build over. There is a reason the current train takes 3 hours, that reason is the steep sandstone mountains and cliffs that would require a significant amount of bridging and cutting to get through the Hawkesbury area. I fear people will balk at the cost and say, 'yeah, nah.' It would be best to start with a cheaper route, and once the sunk costs are in, people could advocate for a higher-cost route. The first step after all is always the hardest
I'm not sure if Central Coast to Sydney will work unless they build the railway underground. I think the Central Coast & Newcastle Line is good enough for travellers between Sydney and Newcastle, though the high speed rail would work for urgent situations and rushes. The main question is where are going to build this railway? Its easy to find grounds to build on past Berowra, Campbelltown and Waterfall but from Central aka Sydney Terminal to BER, CMB & WTR, i guess underground's the only option cause Sydney's taken up so much ground space already.
I believe there will be a lengthy tunnel. I’m not sure if HSR will start from Central or Parramatta as i think i heard something about Parramatta a while back.
The problem comes down to the geography of the east coast which is why it hasn’t happened yet. The most viable option is to simply upgrade the existing lines to make the lines a lot smoother and straighter so that the trains can reach their maximum speed without having to slow down on the curves.
You're talking about Narrow-gauge rail, it has its limitations, cannot reach speeds that a bullet train needs especially on the curve and bullet trains cannot share the rail with other heavy rail either, bullet trains are built differently.
@@ozzyay9720 Who's talking about narrow gauge? Or was that edited out of the comment? Everything I have seen/read about HSR says standard gauge. There are probably advocates for a narrow gauge HSR though.
"We can't do it" *Sigh* "Every election it gets mentioned..." *Sigh* - meanwhile: A western Sydney 24hr airport; a new metro system; light rail in George St. and Parramatta; a third harbour tunnel (after the road and Metro ones); Sydney Gateway; a unbroken circle of car tunnels under Sydney and one under Pennant Hills Road measuring in the many tens of kilometres; the Hungry Mile becomes Barangaroo; dual carriageway from Sydney to Brissie on the freeways.... Can we do High Speed Rail? You bet your arse we can! Now let's do it!#
Let’s be honest. The recent changes in motive power to the Short North route to Broadmeadow potentially enables a speed of 160 kilometres per hour. Freight trains travelling through Tuggerah can achieve 125 kph. All that is needed is for one express train to travel along the present track infrastructure at 150 kph to be competitive against road traffic. But the intermediate stations that would be serviced would need to be limited to a maximum of three stations to enable the maximum speeds to be achieved. Apart from Gosford what would be the other two? It would mean significant changes in timetabling and priority of right of way. Reintroduce a limited express service is one small step that is achievable now.
Likely that the terminus will not be in Newcastle, it will be out near the M1 so add 30+ minutes car travel plus boarding time. Not going to replace car travel for that leg in my opinion.
Oh 2283 is the number of the Vlog - I think it is more likely the year of any fast train launch in Australia. You know they could have built a fast train from Sydney to Canberra for less than the price of building the western Sydney airport, making Canberra Sydney’s second airport with a one hour train trip to Central. Instead, they build another airport in the suburbs that needs billions of dollars of road infrastructure and will still have around 45 -60 minutes travel time into the CBD.
They should also do Lithgow, Broken Hill and Adelaide as well so the west of NSW as well as SA gets a chance assuming they can get around the Blue Mountains terrain. Maybe even Dubbo and Bourke.
If I was doing the Sydney tp Brisbane section, I would start initial construction from north of Hornsby and use the existing route out of Central ( like the French did with the beginnings of the TGV services) . I still think Sydney, Canberra and Melbourne would give the greatest returns initially.
I believe we should hold out another 5 years especially because Japan are testing there Maglev Trains at the moment and the High Speed Rail Technology is going to improve in 10-15 years and so with that in mind instead of a ordinary 300kmh Max Speed Rail we could have a 600kmh Max Speed Maglev. So with that in mind that will slash the ordinary High Speed Rail times in half. So once Japan puts Maglev on there rails we could possibly do the same or something similar!
This is definitely a well needed project for sure. It is kinda annoying how we haven't done anything about it until now and yet Japan has had high speed rail for over 50 years now. Every time that we kept hearing about high speed rail in Australia, it was one of those things where we all thought that high speed rail would never happen in Australia. Let's just hope that this project doesn't run into any issues that would lead the project to getting cancelled.
This requires a tunnel to be able to work as there is literally nowhere above ground that this can be built unless you tear several national parks apart. This means a 50+ kilometre tunnel from Gosford to Hornsby or if the northern beaches option is taken to mona vale. These tunnels will have to be significantly larger then the metro tunnels and unless we want the same aero turbulence issues we have with the metro tunnels will need significant vent systems to allow air to escape.
If this genuinely is going to go ahead in the near future I hope they just go all out with multiple tracks so there’s room for increased services and maybe slower trains to make stops along some smaller towns in between the cities
Last Thursday it took 6 1/2 hours to get from Fassifern to Sydney. Failed coal train at Kotara and from there it just got worse. My first ride on a Mariyung was delayed 2 1/2 hours and then it failed at Warnervale as the stopping pattern was changed from express to all stations. It thought it was at Wyong and couldn’t open its doors. Debacle. After five years of delays. Can you imagine how long it will take to build? I won’t live long enough.
This is obviously a very long overdue bit of infrastructure for our country. In addition to all the other good reasons, I think the most important one is that we cannot hope to decarbonise domestic transport without high speed rail.
Great to see the highspeed trains are at last coming to Australia. But distances in Australia are enormous. So it is about 750km between Sydney and Melbourne. so 4 hours should be possible, but the plane is still much faster. However for the plane you have to go to an airport at least 1 hour ahead of departure time and when arriving you have to travel from the airport to you final destination, so that add up 2 hours on the travel time. So when the train can do it in 3 hours from city center to cityc enter, and more important for the same fare as the airplane, it becomes a good alternative. Looking forward to the new high speed corridor in Australia!
you need to wait a long time for that. because your talking about a new rail line that hadnt existed yet as the project needs to be officially launched and approved for construction. so it is planning stage at the moment. & if you want to look at the video, this will show what the new high speed rail will look like.
Yes it would be good to have the high speed train. Back in 1990s i had done a train trip from Gunnedah to Gympie. Went from Gunnedah to broadmeadow catch the train to Brisbane then had to wait two hours to get the train to gympie.
Then in 2009 my self and my son we done a trip to tasmania . Got the train from Tamworth to central had to wait two hours then the train to melbourne.
If it goes ahead i think they expect Central to Newcastle to be complete by 2037 which is a looong way off but understandable due to the large distance they’ll be building
I think that its a good idea but i dont think that it will happen anytime soon, unless its all a big tunnel, and i also dont think that it will achieve those times either, because even these trains will have brake downs, problems and delays but if it all goes ahead I think it will be great for Austrlaia. I wonder if it will be opal or you have to pay for tickets like the XPT, if its the tickets I dont think they'll be cheap which will also be a downside
this new project was an old governments idea back then when they were looking into planning for the high speed rail. so the cost in the budget would not have been cheap, for this one.
i really hope the cabins and stuff are like the ones in china maybe with like upgraded second classes but considering australian economy its probably gonna be really expenive for a ticket but idk who knows
I forgot by 2050 there will be 8million train journeys between Sydney and Melbourne as well as the 10million air journeys if the population doesn't grow too much.
I hope the natural environment won’t be destroyed in the process!! At what expense will it be to passengers?! How much will it cost to travel on it? I think personally it’s a pipe dream and it will never happen because of the topography of the land!!
It will happen and besides planes are more harmful to the environment than trains are this will be an electric railway so there’ll be almost no emissions from the high-speed rail will have gentle curves and long bridges and tunnels both the Victorian and New South Wales governments as well as the federal government will chip in
We really need to get out of mindset that flying is the comparitor. Net zero means that pretty soon flying will not be a viable option. In this world Sydney-Melbourne in 6-8 hours (half the time of driving and much more comfortable) will be fine. So much cheaper 200 km/h should be the benchmark.
Oooo i’ll look that train up, it could very well be! However the company that builds these new trains wont be decided for some time if the project goes ahead :)
A great idea which gets trotted out before an election. Utopia nailed it, there is a feasibility study and then a scooping study which has pictures and graphs. This piece of cartoon footage looks like the latter.
Melbourne, Albury, Canberra, Sydney, Newcastle, Port Macquarie, Lismore, Brisbane, should have been built 20 years ago with additions as the markey grows. Our politicians are a touch myopic and forbidden to look too far ahead. 😢😮
The more I think about HSR, the more I realise what a TERRIBLE waste of money it will be. Take the Sydney to Melbourne route - which is supposedly the primary route. Currently, the GROSS annual airfare revenue of this route is $1.2 billion. That's all. Why would we want to build a line likely to cost (knowing our political system) over 100 times that amount which, even then, will likely capture at best 50% of the daily passengers of the existing flight system. The maths do not even come close to adding up. Even if it cost $30 billion the business case would still be extremely shaky.
Sydney to Newcastle does need a fast service as it is quite slow for the most part at the moment so that’s understandable. 1 hour is much better than 2.5 hours :)
Why should the east coast get this. My opinion they should look at regional areas as well like broken Hill, Parkes, dubbo, Bathurst as well etc giving people better access to sydney
This will be amazing if Australia does get a high speed rail network connecting cites and regional communties across the Eastern Board of Australia! Would be amazing to catch a train to Brisbane that only takes 4 hours to travel!
I was hoping against experience to hear and see an evidence-based case for the project. Instead, I heard one rail tragic would "like" it to happen-that's how poor the case is. This confirms my belief UA-camrs should have no role in deciding on public transport priorities or spending taxpayers' money generally. No "like" from me.
It'll either disappear after the next federal election, or it will end up massively over budget and years behind schedule like California High Speed Rail and the UK's HS2. Even if it does ever get built, it'll be a white elephant unless there is at least one metro line built in the Newcastle area to connect to the HSR station. There would be more benefit to building two or three metro lines in the lower Hunter than a far more expensive HSR line to Sydney.
This has been talked about for nearly 50 years now, but this project has been one of the most advanced so far out of all the other proposals. And this will completely transform the entire country, enhancing regional communities, and connecting this huge country together!
Agreed!
I hope it happens as it is something we really need
Yeah, people would be much more willing to relocate to regional Australia if there are frequent-ish high-speed rail services that could bring them to city or major regional centres in 1-4 hours depending on the distance rather than the current 3-5 hours or even 12 hours of driving (12 hours one way driving from Sydney to Broken Hill for example). Just look at Japan and China and see how revolutionary their high-speed rail system is, and we should have our answers. We don't need another 50 years to debate. We need to do real construction now.
Maybe in the year 2075 or 3000.
We just got the D sets after 5 years , and still waiting on the new replacement XPT so it will take another 50 years before we even get a proper "bullet train"
Heard it all before, believe it when I see it.
It has definitely been talked about a lot for sure
“Look at it: The Silver Emu! It’s so close I can HEAR it!”
Should it be a double deck like most of Sydney fleet or single deck?
Being able to travel between Sydney and Brisbane in just four hours would be amazing. I intensely dislike flying, but I also really dislike spending the better part of 24 hours getting a sore backside on the train - this would be the best of both worlds.
CSIRO did route optimisation planning back in the 1990's for one of the many attrmpts. Cheers.
I hope it goes ahead this time :)
Believe it when i see it
Hahaha yes indeed, we’ll see :)
@ all for it hope it happens
Me too :)
A high-speed rail in Australia would be fantastic. It’s something we definitely need. However, I’ve been hearing promises about it all my life so I won’t hold my breath 😂
Hahaha yeah very true!
We’ll see at the end of the year or beginning of next year i think.
That’s when the Gov will make their decision
@@sydneytrainsvlogs
This gets rolled out just before an election. There have been many proposals for high speed rail over the past 50 years but it just stalls, we definitely need it to link the east coast capital cities and the regional centres who are priced out of affordable aircraft services.
It would be great if there was a fast rail on the east coast, but I think Sydney to Newcastle is probably the wrong first step. Why? The terrain would be costly to build over. There is a reason the current train takes 3 hours, that reason is the steep sandstone mountains and cliffs that would require a significant amount of bridging and cutting to get through the Hawkesbury area. I fear people will balk at the cost and say, 'yeah, nah.'
It would be best to start with a cheaper route, and once the sunk costs are in, people could advocate for a higher-cost route. The first step after all is always the hardest
Agree. Sydney-Newcastle is fine already. My priority would be Campbeltown-Goulburn, which would make a start on Canberra and Melbourne.
Melbourne to Sydney via Canberra needs to be built first and it needs to be built now
I CAN NOT WAIT FOR THIS! THIS IS AMAZING NEWS!!!!❤
Indeed! I hope it goes ahead :)
@ Same!
😁
I'm not sure if Central Coast to Sydney will work unless they build the railway underground. I think the Central Coast & Newcastle Line is good enough for travellers between Sydney and Newcastle, though the high speed rail would work for urgent situations and rushes. The main question is where are going to build this railway? Its easy to find grounds to build on past Berowra, Campbelltown and Waterfall but from Central aka Sydney Terminal to BER, CMB & WTR, i guess underground's the only option cause Sydney's taken up so much ground space already.
I believe there will be a lengthy tunnel.
I’m not sure if HSR will start from Central or Parramatta as i think i heard something about Parramatta a while back.
@@sydneytrainsvlogs I think so too about the lengthy tunnel. Well lets see what the future brings :)) sounds exciting to get to BRI or MEL in 4 hours
It’ll add competition with airlines too which will hopefully bring fares down a tad :)
I'll believe it when I'm sitting in my seat travelling at 250km/h past Tuggerah
Actually Tuggerah should be a stop on the line rather than cruising through, it is a perfect interchange point.
The problem comes down to the geography of the east coast which is why it hasn’t happened yet. The most viable option is to simply upgrade the existing lines to make the lines a lot smoother and straighter so that the trains can reach their maximum speed without having to slow down on the curves.
You're talking about Narrow-gauge rail, it has its limitations, cannot reach speeds that a bullet train needs especially on the curve and bullet trains cannot share the rail with other heavy rail either, bullet trains are built differently.
@@ozzyay9720 Who's talking about narrow gauge? Or was that edited out of the comment? Everything I have seen/read about HSR says standard gauge. There are probably advocates for a narrow gauge HSR though.
"We can't do it"
*Sigh* "Every election it gets mentioned..." *Sigh*
- meanwhile:
A western Sydney 24hr airport; a new metro system; light rail in George St. and Parramatta; a third harbour tunnel (after the road and Metro ones); Sydney Gateway; a unbroken circle of car tunnels under Sydney and one under Pennant Hills Road measuring in the many tens of kilometres; the Hungry Mile becomes Barangaroo; dual carriageway from Sydney to Brissie on the freeways....
Can we do High Speed Rail?
You bet your arse we can!
Now let's do it!#
This video bout to be lit!
Heck yeah! :)
I would still catch Sydney trains and nsw trains though? What would you do?
It depends how i’m feeling and if i’m in a rush or not :)
Let’s be honest. The recent changes in motive power to the Short North route to Broadmeadow potentially enables a speed of 160 kilometres per hour. Freight trains travelling through Tuggerah can achieve 125 kph. All that is needed is for one express train to travel along the present track infrastructure at 150 kph to be competitive against road traffic. But the intermediate stations that would be serviced would need to be limited to a maximum of three stations to enable the maximum speeds to be achieved. Apart from Gosford what would be the other two? It would mean significant changes in timetabling and priority of right of way. Reintroduce a limited express service is one small step that is achievable now.
The trains look like the Italian Frecciarossa 1000 (running in Italian high speed rails and in Spain)
Likely that the terminus will not be in Newcastle, it will be out near the M1 so add 30+ minutes car travel plus boarding time. Not going to replace car travel for that leg in my opinion.
omg i get home from school to a Sydney Trains Vlogs video!!! im so happy! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Hahaha thank you!
@ thanks for making such banger videos all the time ⭐️
No worries!
Thank you for watching :)
Oh 2283 is the number of the Vlog - I think it is more likely the year of any fast train launch in Australia. You know they could have built a fast train from Sydney to Canberra for less than the price of building the western Sydney airport, making Canberra Sydney’s second airport with a one hour train trip to Central. Instead, they build another airport in the suburbs that needs billions of dollars of road infrastructure and will still have around 45 -60 minutes travel time into the CBD.
They should also do Lithgow, Broken Hill and Adelaide as well so the west of NSW as well as SA gets a chance assuming they can get around the Blue Mountains terrain. Maybe even Dubbo and Bourke.
Yeah they should but that’d be many decades away :)
If I was doing the Sydney tp Brisbane section, I would start initial construction from north of Hornsby and use the existing route out of Central ( like the French did with the beginnings of the TGV services) . I still think Sydney, Canberra and Melbourne would give the greatest returns initially.
just the news we need going into a new year! hope this works out!
We’ll find out in the next couple of months if it’ll go ahead :)
It's 10-11 hours to Melbourne 15 hours to Brisbane
I believe we should hold out another 5 years especially because Japan are testing there Maglev Trains at the moment and the High Speed Rail Technology is going to improve in 10-15 years and so with that in mind instead of a ordinary 300kmh Max Speed Rail we could have a 600kmh Max Speed Maglev. So with that in mind that will slash the ordinary High Speed Rail times in half. So once Japan puts Maglev on there rails we could possibly do the same or something similar!
OMG THIS IS PERFECT FOR AUSTRALIA!!!!
Agreed! :)
Hopefully the politicians get off sitting on their hands and actually do something about this. Australia needs this to happen.
This is definitely a well needed project for sure. It is kinda annoying how we haven't done anything about it until now and yet Japan has had high speed rail for over 50 years now.
Every time that we kept hearing about high speed rail in Australia, it was one of those things where we all thought that high speed rail would never happen in Australia.
Let's just hope that this project doesn't run into any issues that would lead the project to getting cancelled.
This requires a tunnel to be able to work as there is literally nowhere above ground that this can be built unless you tear several national parks apart. This means a 50+ kilometre tunnel from Gosford to Hornsby or if the northern beaches option is taken to mona vale. These tunnels will have to be significantly larger then the metro tunnels and unless we want the same aero turbulence issues we have with the metro tunnels will need significant vent systems to allow air to escape.
I think they mentioned that one of the longest tunnels in Australia will be part of this
If this genuinely is going to go ahead in the near future I hope they just go all out with multiple tracks so there’s room for increased services and maybe slower trains to make stops along some smaller towns in between the cities
Last Thursday it took 6 1/2 hours to get from Fassifern to Sydney. Failed coal train at Kotara and from there it just got worse. My first ride on a Mariyung was delayed 2 1/2 hours and then it failed at Warnervale as the stopping pattern was changed from express to all stations. It thought it was at Wyong and couldn’t open its doors. Debacle. After five years of delays. Can you imagine how long it will take to build? I won’t live long enough.
Sorry....but I will only believe it when I see the trains pulling into the platforms
We’ll have to wait and see
This is obviously a very long overdue bit of infrastructure for our country. In addition to all the other good reasons, I think the most important one is that we cannot hope to decarbonise domestic transport without high speed rail.
Great to see the highspeed trains are at last coming to Australia. But distances in Australia are enormous. So it is about 750km between Sydney and Melbourne. so 4 hours should be possible, but the plane is still much faster. However for the plane you have to go to an airport at least 1 hour ahead of departure time and when arriving you have to travel from the airport to you final destination, so that add up 2 hours on the travel time. So when the train can do it in 3 hours from city center to cityc enter, and more important for the same fare as the airplane, it becomes a good alternative. Looking forward to the new high speed corridor in Australia!
you need to wait a long time for that. because your talking about a new rail line that hadnt existed yet as the project needs to be officially launched and approved for construction. so it is planning stage at the moment. & if you want to look at the video, this will show what the new high speed rail will look like.
Yes it would be good to have the high speed train. Back in 1990s i had done a train trip from Gunnedah to Gympie.
Went from Gunnedah to broadmeadow catch the train to Brisbane then had to wait two hours to get the train to gympie.
Then in 2009 my self and my son we done a trip to tasmania .
Got the train from Tamworth to central had to wait two hours then the train to melbourne.
Please love ❤️ travel high speed train! Let’s getting happening 👍👍🇦🇺🇦🇺
Can I say, we do need it but not in my life time.
If it goes ahead i think they expect Central to Newcastle to be complete by 2037 which is a looong way off but understandable due to the large distance they’ll be building
I think that its a good idea but i dont think that it will happen anytime soon, unless its all a big tunnel, and i also dont think that it will achieve those times either, because even these trains will have brake downs, problems and delays but if it all goes ahead I think it will be great for Austrlaia.
I wonder if it will be opal or you have to pay for tickets like the XPT, if its the tickets I dont think they'll be cheap which will also be a downside
this new project was an old governments idea back then when they were looking into planning for the high speed rail. so the cost in the budget would not have been cheap, for this one.
I would definitely ride the HST between Sydney & Melbourne. Would be better to get a flight from Sydney too!
i really hope the cabins and stuff are like the ones in china maybe with like upgraded second classes but considering australian economy its probably gonna be really expenive for a ticket but idk who knows
I forgot by 2050 there will be 8million train journeys between Sydney and Melbourne as well as the 10million air journeys if the population doesn't grow too much.
I hope the natural environment won’t be destroyed in the process!! At what expense will it be to passengers?! How much will it cost to travel on it? I think personally it’s a pipe dream and it will never happen because of the topography of the land!!
It will happen and besides planes are more harmful to the environment than trains are this will be an electric railway so there’ll be almost no emissions from the high-speed rail will have gentle curves and long bridges and tunnels both the Victorian and New South Wales governments as well as the federal government will chip in
Sounds cool
I think it’s a great idea
It is something Australia really needs
@ absolutely
i do hope that this becomes a thing.
We really need to get out of mindset that flying is the comparitor. Net zero means that pretty soon flying will not be a viable option. In this world Sydney-Melbourne in 6-8 hours (half the time of driving and much more comfortable) will be fine. So much cheaper 200 km/h should be the benchmark.
The train in the video looks a lot like it's based on Siemens Velaro platform
Oooo i’ll look that train up, it could very well be!
However the company that builds these new trains wont be decided for some time if the project goes ahead :)
I thought you were going to say that the rattling windows reminded you of the Red Rattlers
Lol 🤣
I have a bad feeling about this whole high speed rail thing
How come? :)
@ don’t really know, it’s seems too big of a project and the over budgeting everytime etc
So then what’s the point of the NIF and the new regional fleet
They will still run along with High Speed Rail
It’s also a long long way off.
If it goes ahead the Sydney to Newcastle part wont be finished until 2037
A great idea which gets trotted out before an election.
Utopia nailed it, there is a feasibility study and then a scooping study which has pictures and graphs. This piece of cartoon footage looks like the latter.
Melbourne, Albury, Canberra, Sydney, Newcastle, Port Macquarie, Lismore, Brisbane, should have been built 20 years ago with additions as the markey grows. Our politicians are a touch myopic and forbidden to look too far ahead. 😢😮
If they were capable of 300 km/h it would take less then 1 hour to get from Sydney to Newcastle.
That’d be even better :)
The more I think about HSR, the more I realise what a TERRIBLE waste of money it will be.
Take the Sydney to Melbourne route - which is supposedly the primary route. Currently, the GROSS annual airfare revenue of this route is $1.2 billion. That's all. Why would we want to build a line likely to cost (knowing our political system) over 100 times that amount which, even then, will likely capture at best 50% of the daily passengers of the existing flight system.
The maths do not even come close to adding up. Even if it cost $30 billion the business case would still be extremely shaky.
This is long overdue. But the real question is, will you be able to get a good pizza on the high speed rail?!
As nice as a high speed corridor in 20-30 years would be, for the same money I would rather see a comprehensive 200 km/h network in 10 years.
But you have to get to the airport get there about lan hour early and then your plane might get delayed
Wait is this actually happening I thought high-speed rail in Australia was a myth
assuming this happens what on earth will happen to our current regional trains
Qantas and the government will ensure this never happens… Melbourne to Sydney is one of the busiest flight routes in the world.
Makes no sense bc syd to newcaslte is like 2 hrs whilst syd to mel/bris is like 12 hrs so they shoudve done syd to mel or bris first
Sydney to Newcastle is a first step then onto Brisbane then Canberra and Melbourne :)
@sydneytrainsvlogs why Newcastle? Why not bris or Mel?
Sydney to Newcastle does need a fast service as it is quite slow for the most part at the moment so that’s understandable.
1 hour is much better than 2.5 hours :)
@ I guess so, i go to newcastle more than bris and mel so paying a couple hundred $$ is ok i guesso
@@sydneytrainsvlogs wuts your gaming channel called?
Not gonna happen Australia is too much of a slow country and it's behind the rest of the world
Why should the east coast get this. My opinion they should look at regional areas as well like broken Hill, Parkes, dubbo, Bathurst as well etc giving people better access to sydney
Nice video ❤
This will be amazing if Australia does get a high speed rail network connecting cites and regional communties across the Eastern Board of Australia!
Would be amazing to catch a train to Brisbane that only takes 4 hours to travel!
I was hoping against experience to hear and see an evidence-based case for the project. Instead, I heard one rail tragic would "like" it to happen-that's how poor the case is. This confirms my belief UA-camrs should have no role in deciding on public transport priorities or spending taxpayers' money generally. No "like" from me.
It'll either disappear after the next federal election, or it will end up massively over budget and years behind schedule like California High Speed Rail and the UK's HS2.
Even if it does ever get built, it'll be a white elephant unless there is at least one metro line built in the Newcastle area to connect to the HSR station.
There would be more benefit to building two or three metro lines in the lower Hunter than a far more expensive HSR line to Sydney.