This is definitely a logical way to conclude the Autobot/Decepticon conflict. I don't really have a preference, but it usually depends on the continuity. In the Tyran cluster, for example, I prefer a bittersweet outcome where the war is over, but so much has been lost and the wounds will never fully heal. I'm really curious to have those gaps filled in. I plan on going through this contuinity eventually, but with how much of the content still isn't translated, I'm still waiting.
Ideally? Megatron goes into exile and remains a hidden force that pops up from time to time, chasing dark threats that would otherwise threaten the new Cybertron Alliance. Optimus, fearing that his 'uncontested' position would throw the balance off and make the Decepticons feel overshadowed, and have them leave the CA, instead calls for 3 Decepticons, 3 Autobots and 3 Neutrals to step forwards and make a Council, with Optimus acting as a mediator, pointing out that uncontested Primes in a leadership role tends to end badly for Cybertron. Soundwave and Shockwave naturally step up to the plate, but a shocking surprise is Starscream gets ignored while Thundercracker steps in by a landslide, much to the confusion of Skywarp and the screeching rage of Starscream. For the Autobots, Arcee, Jetstorm and Prowl step forwards to take up the slack. The Neutrals come from Cybertronians who fled during the early stages of the war and settled colonies elsewhere in the galaxy, namely Mistress Flame from Velocitron, Scourge from the Beast Planet and Drift from the Free Colonies. The underlying principals of the new Cybertron Alliance are simple: All Cybertronians are equal, regardless of alt-mode or lack thereof, regardless of function of said alt-mode, all life, Inorganic or Organic, is granted freedom to act as they see fit under the umbrella of the law, so long as their actions do not actively seek to cause harm or poverty to others, either within or without the Cybertronian Alliance, and that every 20 Cycles, the Council must undergo elections to retain their positions or hand them over to the winners of these elections, and every Councilmember must submit to the will of the people, meaning that if the Council makes a decision that the majority of the Cybertronian race disagrees with, they must acquiesce and retract the decision. United by the desire to avoid the reasons for the original conflict, the lack of energon, the stifling control of Functionism where a Cybertronian's alt-mode(s) determined their rank and station, and the inability to contest the Primes' 'Divine Mandate' from their supposed connection to the Matrix of Leadership, the CA institutes expansionism only into solar systems where no indigenous life with a certain sentience/sapience rating are naturally found to create solar 'farms' to harvest energy for conversion into Energon and to tap natural resources to ensure Cybertron never runs out of energy again, and the population is never forced into near-shutdown levels of fueling issues. In solar systems where indigenous life is found, and is capable of safely interacting with Cybertronian life, the Council pushes for interaction, within reason, arguing that a refusal to engage and turning inwards is what helped stagnate their people in the first place and sowed the seeds for the Autobot/Decepticon War in the first place. As more Cybertronian colonies are found and most choose to integrate, the Council grows in size, with Shockwave stepping down to act an advisors and assistant to Soundwave and Thundercracker stepping down to pursue his own dreams, with Jetstorm doing the same for Arcee and Prowl stepping down to head the United Cybertronian Investigation Division to ensure everybody is following the terms of the truce, that frees up four more seats for Gigantron and three more Colonies to take seats on the Council, and for the most part, Autobot and Decepticon are old and forgotten terms. Optimus has aged greatly in his position as mediator and has assembled other Cybertonians, including Cons and Neutrals, to assist him, including Thundercracker, who has begun to develop an odd connection to the Matrix and is widely regarded as the next Cybertronian to be asked to carry it, and is backed by Octane, Slipstream, Squawkbox, Fixit, Windy and Crossblades, who likewise have some level of spiritual connection to the Matrix and have developed powers as a result, becoming 1%ers in their own right, while Optimus, after all his trials, is beginning to transform into an 'Elder', able to connect directly to Cybertron in exchange for losing his combat potential, a trade-off he has come to greatly fear as the Matrix sends both Optimus and his protogees ominous visions of a doom that comes for them all. Hundreds of Cycles after the Cyberton Alliance has taken control, Megatron crash-lands on the planet, badly damaged and barely function, speaking of Unicorn returning, and this time in full force. Cybertron and her Colony Worlds have to unite as never before as Unicron slowly advances, having not just created armies of transforming drones, but a cadre of intelligent and autonomous 'Heralds' from captured Cybertronians who now serve his will, including Scourge and his Terrorcons, Hook, Line and Sinker from an unnamed Colony, and others, and has actively consumed and converted several colony worlds and transformed them into moon-sized super-structures that can indeed transform and act as extensions of Unicron's will, serving as both bases of operations for his armies and ways to eliminate lesser threats with planet-cracking weaponry while Unicron just guns straight for Cybertron, consuming all in his path. Fearing that they will not be able to fully defend both Cybertron and her Colonies, Optimus passes the Matrix to Thundercracker, and carries Megatron to the Well of All-Sparks, lowering them together into the pit to return their sparks to the matrix and adding their collective wisdom into the Matrix itself, as well as sparking a surge of new Sparks to be born to help fight this new threat to the universe, including a reborn Megatron who now possesses a far more powerful and durable form that is resistant to the effects of Dark Energon, a trait born from his previous use of the blood of Unicron. Starscream, predictably, infuriated over centuries of being ignored and overlooked, immediately tries to form his own faction and play Unicron and Cybertron against each other with criminals and outcasts from the United Cybertron Alliance, as well as rabble-rousing on the Colony Worlds.
I never even knew there was something like this before, I even had my own version of Autobots and Decepticons joining forces to create an entire new faction: The Autonomous Coalition, which also aligned with the Humans as well. But knowing this now? Clearly this seems to be the original before I made my own one, lmao
⮚ After the war with Star Giant, Optimus Prime took on a Powermaster body (discarding his Star Convoy body) to protect himself from a black hole into which he ventured to get nucleon to restore Cybertron. ⮚ The nucleon changed him into his Action Master body which he had when the Cybertron Alliance was formed.
@CommanderRadix a bit weird for Japanese cannon given Ginrai but I guess given the body was suppose to an upgrade for Optimus... That Ginrai stole. Makes sense, a bit weird how we goes into a more weaker body randomly
Actually I kinda prefer how Prime handled it. Megatron seeing what true oppression looks like disbands the Decepticons and either goes into exile or works with Optimus to reunite Cybertron.
You're confusing Primax 984.0 Gamma Straxus (Marvel US continuity) and Primax 984.20 Gamma Straxus (Marvel UK continuity). Marvel UK Straxus' head was kept in a tank and remained in his universe. Marvel US Straxus ended up in Primax 785.06 Alpha (Japanese G1 continuity)
Maybe! I'll be honest with you man, I never know what I'm going to make until two days before I make it. Video ideas come to me in the form of a spirit and one can never know what the spirit world will send and when it will send it.
Man, it's so cool to see more of the deeper side of the Transformers lore. It's a shame this isn't touched more often.
The jp G1 universe stokes my curiosity more than any other
This is definitely a logical way to conclude the Autobot/Decepticon conflict. I don't really have a preference, but it usually depends on the continuity. In the Tyran cluster, for example, I prefer a bittersweet outcome where the war is over, but so much has been lost and the wounds will never fully heal. I'm really curious to have those gaps filled in. I plan on going through this contuinity eventually, but with how much of the content still isn't translated, I'm still waiting.
Ideally? Megatron goes into exile and remains a hidden force that pops up from time to time, chasing dark threats that would otherwise threaten the new Cybertron Alliance. Optimus, fearing that his 'uncontested' position would throw the balance off and make the Decepticons feel overshadowed, and have them leave the CA, instead calls for 3 Decepticons, 3 Autobots and 3 Neutrals to step forwards and make a Council, with Optimus acting as a mediator, pointing out that uncontested Primes in a leadership role tends to end badly for Cybertron.
Soundwave and Shockwave naturally step up to the plate, but a shocking surprise is Starscream gets ignored while Thundercracker steps in by a landslide, much to the confusion of Skywarp and the screeching rage of Starscream. For the Autobots, Arcee, Jetstorm and Prowl step forwards to take up the slack. The Neutrals come from Cybertronians who fled during the early stages of the war and settled colonies elsewhere in the galaxy, namely Mistress Flame from Velocitron, Scourge from the Beast Planet and Drift from the Free Colonies.
The underlying principals of the new Cybertron Alliance are simple: All Cybertronians are equal, regardless of alt-mode or lack thereof, regardless of function of said alt-mode, all life, Inorganic or Organic, is granted freedom to act as they see fit under the umbrella of the law, so long as their actions do not actively seek to cause harm or poverty to others, either within or without the Cybertronian Alliance, and that every 20 Cycles, the Council must undergo elections to retain their positions or hand them over to the winners of these elections, and every Councilmember must submit to the will of the people, meaning that if the Council makes a decision that the majority of the Cybertronian race disagrees with, they must acquiesce and retract the decision.
United by the desire to avoid the reasons for the original conflict, the lack of energon, the stifling control of Functionism where a Cybertronian's alt-mode(s) determined their rank and station, and the inability to contest the Primes' 'Divine Mandate' from their supposed connection to the Matrix of Leadership, the CA institutes expansionism only into solar systems where no indigenous life with a certain sentience/sapience rating are naturally found to create solar 'farms' to harvest energy for conversion into Energon and to tap natural resources to ensure Cybertron never runs out of energy again, and the population is never forced into near-shutdown levels of fueling issues.
In solar systems where indigenous life is found, and is capable of safely interacting with Cybertronian life, the Council pushes for interaction, within reason, arguing that a refusal to engage and turning inwards is what helped stagnate their people in the first place and sowed the seeds for the Autobot/Decepticon War in the first place. As more Cybertronian colonies are found and most choose to integrate, the Council grows in size, with Shockwave stepping down to act an advisors and assistant to Soundwave and Thundercracker stepping down to pursue his own dreams, with Jetstorm doing the same for Arcee and Prowl stepping down to head the United Cybertronian Investigation Division to ensure everybody is following the terms of the truce, that frees up four more seats for Gigantron and three more Colonies to take seats on the Council, and for the most part, Autobot and Decepticon are old and forgotten terms.
Optimus has aged greatly in his position as mediator and has assembled other Cybertonians, including Cons and Neutrals, to assist him, including Thundercracker, who has begun to develop an odd connection to the Matrix and is widely regarded as the next Cybertronian to be asked to carry it, and is backed by Octane, Slipstream, Squawkbox, Fixit, Windy and Crossblades, who likewise have some level of spiritual connection to the Matrix and have developed powers as a result, becoming 1%ers in their own right, while Optimus, after all his trials, is beginning to transform into an 'Elder', able to connect directly to Cybertron in exchange for losing his combat potential, a trade-off he has come to greatly fear as the Matrix sends both Optimus and his protogees ominous visions of a doom that comes for them all.
Hundreds of Cycles after the Cyberton Alliance has taken control, Megatron crash-lands on the planet, badly damaged and barely function, speaking of Unicorn returning, and this time in full force. Cybertron and her Colony Worlds have to unite as never before as Unicron slowly advances, having not just created armies of transforming drones, but a cadre of intelligent and autonomous 'Heralds' from captured Cybertronians who now serve his will, including Scourge and his Terrorcons, Hook, Line and Sinker from an unnamed Colony, and others, and has actively consumed and converted several colony worlds and transformed them into moon-sized super-structures that can indeed transform and act as extensions of Unicron's will, serving as both bases of operations for his armies and ways to eliminate lesser threats with planet-cracking weaponry while Unicron just guns straight for Cybertron, consuming all in his path.
Fearing that they will not be able to fully defend both Cybertron and her Colonies, Optimus passes the Matrix to Thundercracker, and carries Megatron to the Well of All-Sparks, lowering them together into the pit to return their sparks to the matrix and adding their collective wisdom into the Matrix itself, as well as sparking a surge of new Sparks to be born to help fight this new threat to the universe, including a reborn Megatron who now possesses a far more powerful and durable form that is resistant to the effects of Dark Energon, a trait born from his previous use of the blood of Unicron.
Starscream, predictably, infuriated over centuries of being ignored and overlooked, immediately tries to form his own faction and play Unicron and Cybertron against each other with criminals and outcasts from the United Cybertron Alliance, as well as rabble-rousing on the Colony Worlds.
it physically hurts how inaccessible and untranslated a lot of the Japanese stories are.
Megatron needs to wear a cape more often. Maybe his cape turns into his tank treads
Masterful job covering this topic. Need more for sure!
I never even knew there was something like this before, I even had my own version of Autobots and Decepticons joining forces to create an entire new faction: The Autonomous Coalition, which also aligned with the Humans as well. But knowing this now? Clearly this seems to be the original before I made my own one, lmao
i would love to hear your vrsion
That's a neat idea bro
i like your video i do hope you cover if want to whole and rest of japanese g1 cartoon continuity i really like your video
I am desperately awaiting a red recolor of Starscream's Coronation cloak, so that I can give it to Megatron, for this very purpose.
My vote is Soundwave (Skybound version) for being the new leader of the decepticons.
Ive heard of this but dont much about this so im curious to learn about it.
so we know how Megatron lost his Super body but how did Optimus loose his Star Powered Form between battle stars and the Cybertron Alliance
⮚ After the war with Star Giant, Optimus Prime took on a Powermaster body (discarding his Star Convoy body) to protect himself from a black hole into which he ventured to get nucleon to restore Cybertron.
⮚ The nucleon changed him into his Action Master body which he had when the Cybertron Alliance was formed.
@CommanderRadix a bit weird for Japanese cannon given Ginrai but I guess given the body was suppose to an upgrade for Optimus... That Ginrai stole. Makes sense, a bit weird how we goes into a more weaker body randomly
Actually I kinda prefer how Prime handled it. Megatron seeing what true oppression looks like disbands the Decepticons and either goes into exile or works with Optimus to reunite Cybertron.
I thought Straxus' body was destroyed and his head survived and was kept in a tank.
You're confusing Primax 984.0 Gamma Straxus (Marvel US continuity) and Primax 984.20 Gamma Straxus (Marvel UK continuity). Marvel UK Straxus' head was kept in a tank and remained in his universe. Marvel US Straxus ended up in Primax 785.06 Alpha (Japanese G1 continuity)
So true
Will we get some more Transformers animated lore?
Maybe! I'll be honest with you man, I never know what I'm going to make until two days before I make it. Video ideas come to me in the form of a spirit and one can never know what the spirit world will send and when it will send it.