Dark Side History: Arwa Al-Sulayhi (1067-1138), The Yemeni Saint Queen!

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  • Опубліковано 4 вер 2024

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  • @theculturedjinni
    @theculturedjinni  2 місяці тому +5

    I hope you liked this video about this Queen in Yemen. Please, don't be afraid to comment or voice any questions as I love interacting with you my dear viewers and I will try to respond as quickly as possible to you. Also, please like, subscribe & push the bell icon as those actions do help this channel to grow!

  • @arsalanshaikh3763
    @arsalanshaikh3763 2 місяці тому +3

    Great informative video, thanks for sharing these gems. In India we have a substantial bohra ismaili community many girls bear the name Arwa which the majority Sunni population never uses. I used to always wonder why, the names are either Arwa, Sakina, Rukaiyyah then I got to know about some queen they had in Yemen, today I learned who she was in detail, thanks again brother. Would request you if possible do a video on how this Bohra imamate came from yemen to Gujrat India, in my city Pune, India we have a substantial Bohra population I had many friends, they are very closely knitted and financially very strong.

    • @theculturedjinni
      @theculturedjinni  2 місяці тому +1

      👍 Always a pleasure to provide these sort hidden gems of history. And, I will look into this regarding what I presume is the Dawoodi Bohra (there are actually more sub-bohras than them but they are the major one) and I might do a video about either them specifically or how Ismaili Shia groups spread from the trade between southern Arabia and the Indian sub-continent, where I will go into their case. Though, I have quite a lot of projects planned before this both with regards to videos and IRL so it might be a while until I get to it.

  • @An_anonymous_history_lover
    @An_anonymous_history_lover Місяць тому +1

    I personally think the video would have been better if it had been the last out of a three-part series on the Sulayhids. The first on the dynasty's founder Ali al-Sulayhi, the second on his son and successor al-Mukaram Ahmad and the last on this Arwa al-Sulayhi given that she was the last ruler of the dynasty. If would have given this video a sense of continuity and conclusion to the previous parts...

    • @theculturedjinni
      @theculturedjinni  Місяць тому

      👍 That might admittedly have been a better way to structure it in hind-sight. I was more focused on Arwa than anything else and I wanted to focus upon her and the fact that even when she was in no way an official ruler she still held significant power and was an active part even during the time of Al-Mukarram and I just glossed over Ali al-Sulayhi as he was gone when Arwa became politically relevant. Though, I might make more videos about the Sulayhids as I have made some basic drafts of videos based upon other interesting stuff I found making this video, it also helps that a lot of new material regarding them have been released to the public recently.

  • @Mary-pi4ky
    @Mary-pi4ky 2 місяці тому +1

    We Yemenis know more about our queens.
    First, many yemeni women are named Arwa, regardless of their sect being sunni or zaidi.
    Second, Arwa was not the only queen in Yemen. Yemen used to be ruled by many other queens even before Islam, such as Balqees the Queen of Sheba and Queen Lamees bint thee almanar.

    • @theculturedjinni
      @theculturedjinni  2 місяці тому

      Indeed there are a lot of important women in Yemeni history.

    • @Mary-pi4ky
      @Mary-pi4ky 2 місяці тому +1

      @theculturedjinni actually, I don't like to subscribe to any channel in general and rarely make any comment.

    • @theculturedjinni
      @theculturedjinni  2 місяці тому

      @@Mary-pi4ky That is fine too, I am just glad you did take the time to comment!

  • @wewenang5167
    @wewenang5167 2 місяці тому +1

    If you read about the histories of many Muslims Kingdome through out Africa, South Asia and South East Asia you can find MORE female Muslims leaders and warriors even Admirals and war commanders. Sadly not many people outside of our realms knows about them especially in the west.

    • @theculturedjinni
      @theculturedjinni  2 місяці тому

      👍This is very much true, there are a lot of other female rulers and leaders through Islamicate history and I intend to bring some more to light in future videos, though these will probably be limited to the Middle East as that is where I can actually read the sources.

  • @MikeyDillow-ky5yh
    @MikeyDillow-ky5yh 2 місяці тому +1

    I love all of you and I will never leave your side no matter what happens to me I will be your true Messenger and I will be in the Bible in the Quran and the Torah and the Buddhist holy book

    • @theculturedjinni
      @theculturedjinni  2 місяці тому

      Are you trying to do some sort of religious preaching here?

  • @jhonshephard921
    @jhonshephard921 2 місяці тому +2

    is it me or does this kind of sound a bit like the current Game of Thrones: House of the Dragon

    • @theculturedjinni
      @theculturedjinni  2 місяці тому +1

      I will openly say that I have not seen the tv-series or read the books, but considering what I have heard about it regarding constant political intrigue and games of power politics back and forth and the like then yes it is similar to what Arwa had to deal with pretty much in that she was in situation that was constantly on a knife's edge, having to navigate between various groups and interests.

  • @EdwardFishington
    @EdwardFishington 2 місяці тому +1

    reminds me of the queen of sheba for some reasons

    • @theculturedjinni
      @theculturedjinni  2 місяці тому +2

      👍 Probably because she is also said to have been from Yemen too (in those traditions that do not place her from what is modern day Ethiopia/Eritrea)

    • @EdwardFishington
      @EdwardFishington 2 місяці тому +2

      @@theculturedjinni yea ur right

    • @user-uw9is5vp5q
      @user-uw9is5vp5q 2 місяці тому +5

      One of her nicknames is litteraly "Little Queen of Sheba"...

    • @theculturedjinni
      @theculturedjinni  2 місяці тому +1

      @@user-uw9is5vp5q 👍That too! I missed it.

    • @RuralLove
      @RuralLove 2 місяці тому +1

      Yemen has many many queens. Sheba queens Balqees is the most famous.

  • @EnigmaticRealms1
    @EnigmaticRealms1 2 місяці тому +1

    The accent is not the problem, but the cadence is wrong. Use AI for voice over

  • @xander583
    @xander583 2 місяці тому +1

    Narrated Abu Bakra: During the battle of Al-Jamal, Allah benefited me with a Word (I heard from the Prophet). When the Prophet heard the news that the people of the Persia had made the daughter of Khosrau their Queen (ruler), he said, "Never will succeed such a nation as makes a woman their ruler."
    Sahih al-Bukhari 7099

    • @theculturedjinni
      @theculturedjinni  2 місяці тому

      And despite this you have several successful female rulers, both within Shia and Sunni political entities, throughout Arabic-Islamicate history, it shows the complexity of religious ideals and the practical reality that creates intricate history with a lot of exceptions and interesting developments.

    • @psssshhh7730
      @psssshhh7730 2 місяці тому

      @@theculturedjinni Depends on you definition of success;
      Successfully attaining power - yes, many have.
      Successfully making a net positive change after attaining power - nope. The vanishingly few rulers that dont suck do not include women.

    • @theculturedjinni
      @theculturedjinni  2 місяці тому

      @@psssshhh7730 Well positive or negative are value judgments and hence subjective, but Arwa did manage to keep the Sulayhids together, defeating many of the Sulayhids' great enemies and made great investments in infrastructure and construction of roads, and she was praised as a good ruler by many of her time and afterwards and you have others like Sitt al-Mulk in the 11th century & Shajar al-Durr in the 13th century too who I would argue left a more stable and prosperous legacy than was the case when they took power.

    • @psssshhh7730
      @psssshhh7730 2 місяці тому

      @@theculturedjinni Sitt al Mulks two claims to relevance were the favor of her father for being the daughter of his favorite concubine. Her praised policies could be summed up as allowing alcohol. As much as she stands out in comparison to her co ruler (who was much worse), on her own she's kindof a middling sort of populist. Which would be fine, but really giving arabs access to alcohol is a very, very bright red card. Not really sure how to assign the qualities of a successful ruler to her - the state she left behind later got dumpstered by the previous state was had a stalemate with.
      Shajar al-Durr started as a slave in a kings harem, rose a successful revolt against a decadent ruler, and established the Mamluk dynasty of Egypt. Then, while her supporters were busy dong work, she went and became a decadent ruler and stayed home to play with the slaves she bought for her haram, had a successful revolt raised against her, and was yeeted of a tower. The same tower the previous corrput king was tossed off of. Her claim to fame seems more based on the reality that she happened to be alive at the same time Baibars and Qutuz were.

    • @theculturedjinni
      @theculturedjinni  2 місяці тому

      @@psssshhh7730 Sitt al-Mulk took power in a very unstable situation, with Al-haakim being gone and the power vacuum that appeared, and still managed to prevent it from going into total anarchy by rather skillfully playing off various factions. Sure later rulers did no succeed, but that was less due to what they had inherited and more due to their own issues or issues that existed even before Sitt al-Mulk.
      Shajar al-Durr has had what I see as a bit of propaganda campaign against her regarding her relations to slaves and various other claims about her. But anyway, her great legacy lies in establishing the bahri Mamluks which was an improvement over the Ayyubids that had more or less left Egypt in a state of complete disarray and disrepair and the crusaders were defeated under her too (which despite being done by male commanders was still done under her reign). And sure her reign was short, if not extended during her indirect rulership under Aybak, but the fact that most things that are badly associated with her was mostly Aybak and then later his son & his mother. Also, Her diplomatic skill ought not to be understated, by marrying Aybak she stabilized the situation for a short while, also she managed to gain recognition for the new mamluk state and managed the diplomatic communication between the Mamluks and the Abbasids. In comparison to Arwa al-sulayhi or Sitt al-Mulk I can admit that she is not that great though, but still a rather okay ruler.

  • @Kenan1001
    @Kenan1001 2 місяці тому +1

    No way Arabian Cleopatra

    • @theculturedjinni
      @theculturedjinni  2 місяці тому +2

      Yes, though I would argue that Arwa was a better ruler than Cleopatra.

  • @MikeyDillow-ky5yh
    @MikeyDillow-ky5yh 2 місяці тому +1

    I respect all religions my name is Mikey dillow I'm the piece I am the way I am the truth I'm the amazing way of life I'm the amazing way of water I am the message I am the Messenger I'm the righteousness of God of heaven I shall be the righteousness I shall be the piece of the way and the truth and the way of life and the way of Summer and the way of the world and the way of heaven amen John seed for 44 hallelujah

    • @theculturedjinni
      @theculturedjinni  2 місяці тому

      Sorry, I think I do not really follow? Is this some sort of reference?

  • @averagebodybuilder
    @averagebodybuilder 2 місяці тому +1

    Are you Iranian? You soud it