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  • Опубліковано 8 кві 2018
  • This abandoned tracks documentary looks at the unused platforms and tunnels at Central and St James Stations in Sydney, NSW.
    Presented by Wendy John.
    My social media links:
    Twitter: /catiemonaghan
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    Australian Railway Historical Society website:
    www.arhsnsw.com.au/index.htm
    Links for others work featured in the documentary:
    Sydney Train Vlogs
    / sydneytrainsvlogs
    / sydneytrainsvlogs
    Greg Davis
    / exploredvisions
    Andrew Murray
    / andrewmurrayphotographer
    www.andrewmurrayphotographer.com
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    Hunter-Photo...

КОМЕНТАРІ • 98

  • @johnmcculloch5736
    @johnmcculloch5736 5 років тому +66

    Looks like the planners of yesterday built for tomorrow but
    the planners of today build for yesterday.

    • @JB-hj2vj
      @JB-hj2vj 4 роки тому +5

      The automobile unfortunately took resources away from trains.

  • @chdod7763
    @chdod7763 5 років тому +38

    I can verify the sacrifice thing down there. We Used to sneak around those tunnels back in the early eighties as a school kid , they were completly accessible to th public back then with no doors or locks at the end of the station. During one of our jaunts , we ( just myself and one other) came accross one of the chambers that had a series of used candles that ran from the entrance(nthn) along floor of both the rihgt and left side walls upto a circle with pentagram at the end. On the right wall about half way down were starter bars sticking out about six inches (looked like a peice of concrete and brick about 2m sq had been smashed off ). Most of the starter bars we'r bent down but the were a few that wernt and they had dried blood on them and on the wall n floor. As you can imagine, with the only light being that of an old school dolphin torch, we promtly shat ourselves and got the puck out of there. We only told our mates at school(we knew we weren't meant to be down there or in that area in school uniform). The ones who went down and found it never went back in those tunnels, just as I have never been back in them since about '84

    • @LukaGoink
      @LukaGoink 5 років тому +8

      love hearing stories like this... family legend had it my granpa helped build them tunnels :)

    • @darkmaninperth
      @darkmaninperth Рік тому

      I have the same story, but it involves Monsanto in Rozelle.

    • @longtallshorty5791
      @longtallshorty5791 Рік тому

      Sure mate.

    • @cc8530
      @cc8530 6 місяців тому

      Thank you for your service

  • @Tiger351
    @Tiger351 Рік тому +3

    Platforms 26 and 27 at Central were used for storage back in the day, went down there probably half a dozen times in the early to mid 90's when I was a maintenance electrician for the railway (pre-privatisation).

  • @TimonSuricata
    @TimonSuricata 4 роки тому +11

    Nice, im proud to say i have explored both ends of st james, and the ghost platfoms of central back in my cave clan days.

    • @Mike-pf1ru
      @Mike-pf1ru 11 місяців тому +1

      I was friends with the late Michael Carlton, but everyone else called him Predator.

  • @trishmckenzie8780
    @trishmckenzie8780 5 років тому +10

    I would love to take a tour down there and hear stories about it.

  • @henrysantos121
    @henrysantos121 Рік тому +3

    Matatan ® Ribirin H-S°
    Excellent documentary well done like always no doubt with that,

  • @thedrunkenelf
    @thedrunkenelf 5 років тому +9

    As of Oct 2018, there is now talk on the news of turning them into clubs and tourist attractions

    • @PossumFilms
      @PossumFilms  5 років тому +4

      Yeah, I have heard of that. Would be good to see them actually do something with the tunnels.

  • @Shan9965
    @Shan9965 6 років тому +6

    I have been in platform 26#27 last week. Pretty cool

    • @onyxig710
      @onyxig710 5 років тому +1

      Shan Attanayake how?

  • @johnilmenstein2795
    @johnilmenstein2795 5 років тому +5

    North Sydney Station also has an abandoned tunnel on the North West side

    • @PossumFilms
      @PossumFilms  5 років тому +2

      I think I heard about it but that's cool to know that there is another abandoned tunnel in North Sydney

    • @johnilmenstein2795
      @johnilmenstein2795 5 років тому +2

      @@PossumFilms We used to explore it in the late 70's and bats would fly out into the open area above the station, which I believe is now covered. Approach from the North side may avoid CCTV which never existed back then good luck.

    • @theaussiebackflipboy
      @theaussiebackflipboy 5 років тому +2

      It is off Platform 2 and was originally going to be a part of a northern beaches rail line.

  • @TheKurtsPlaceChannel
    @TheKurtsPlaceChannel 5 років тому +3

    Very interesting. Have a nice day now.

  • @M-N00
    @M-N00 5 років тому +13

    It's a rare video that has 0 dislikes....

  • @blackIce504
    @blackIce504 4 місяці тому

    its amazing they new used them for metro googus.

  • @geoffreylongstaff8557
    @geoffreylongstaff8557 6 років тому +3

    Absolutely amazing

  • @treypohe4593
    @treypohe4593 5 років тому +43

    They should probably repurpose those tunnels so the Metro can operate them...

    • @AustNRail
      @AustNRail 5 років тому

      Trey Pohe the metro is a narrow gauge line and should never had been built to a narrow gauge which drives a wedge through our network for financial gain to the political powers to be.

    • @isaacsitu9106
      @isaacsitu9106 5 років тому +7

      AustNRail it’s not narrow gauge it’s standard gauge like the rest of Sydney

    • @briannem.6787
      @briannem.6787 3 роки тому +1

      @@AustNRail I'm late, but you are partly right! It is a smaller loading guage- a standard train would not fit.
      Loading guage is how wide the train is.
      Guage is wheel width.
      IIRC, the railway was meant for standard trains as the nw rail link- but a contractor built a too-small tunnel, and this came about. Don't quote me on that.

    • @raph6931
      @raph6931 2 роки тому +2

      @@briannem.6787 the nwrl was never meant for normal trains past some very early proposals. From the first proper proposals onwards, its been a metro. The tighter gauge and tunnel size was intentional because it's cheaper, and normal trains aren't able to run the line anyway due to the different signalling

    • @raph6931
      @raph6931 2 роки тому +1

      They can never repurpose any of Sydney's unused platforms. The last time it occurred was 1979, and theres a reason it hasn't happened since. Modern TBMs would place too much stress on the station structures, which could collapse the stations

  • @TransportBuff
    @TransportBuff 5 років тому +4

    Great Video! Very interesting! I hope the tunnels are revived to good use some time soon! :)

  • @aaronoliver4789
    @aaronoliver4789 9 днів тому

    Perhaps theylle do something with them like transform them somewhat similar to say the old tramsheds out at Jubilee park glebe

  • @saltlauren9888
    @saltlauren9888 2 роки тому +1

    I paddled across this lake in an inflatable boat from Rebel Sports. Very easy to access, just need to jump off the back of a moving train :)

  • @willmarshall4766
    @willmarshall4766 5 років тому +2

    If the could connect the tunnels to Chatswood the metro can run thru them

  • @michaelfillery9403
    @michaelfillery9403 Рік тому +1

    Are there unused platforms at Museum as well ?

  • @mews56
    @mews56 4 роки тому +4

    Considered connecting the metro line platforms to the existing unused platforms Of Saint James & Central Station ?Along with expansion of Central station

    • @raph6931
      @raph6931 2 роки тому +1

      They can't, due to the stresses building new tunnels would place on the station structures. It could threaten collapse

    • @raph6931
      @raph6931 Рік тому

      @@gppsoftware they can change the route that isn't the issue

    • @raph6931
      @raph6931 Рік тому

      @@gppsoftware simply not true, multiple routes were optioned. None of the routes optioned, including the one selected, prevent the Metro extension from going near St James and Central

    • @raph6931
      @raph6931 Рік тому

      @@gppsoftware oh yeah that sounds real, totally. Care to explain why what he said doesn't match what Government documents say?

  • @johncherry108
    @johncherry108 5 років тому +5

    I haven't been to Sydney for several decades but at that time I used Wynyard station a lot. My memory is now failing, but I seem to recall that Wynyard station did not have platforms 1 and 2. Would that have been related to the subject of this video?

    • @PossumFilms
      @PossumFilms  5 років тому

      It would have a little be to do with the subject of the video.

    • @geoffreythurtell8761
      @geoffreythurtell8761 5 років тому +5

      Platforms 1 & 2 are where the trams going across the harbour bridge arrived and departed, before the trams were discontinued.

    • @berenscott8999
      @berenscott8999 5 років тому

      @@geoffreythurtell8761 The trams ran along the east side of the bridge similar to how the train operates on the west.

    • @jenniferschmitzer299
      @jenniferschmitzer299 3 роки тому

      not sure if you assuaged your interest, 1 and 2 ended up being part of the pay car park .. not all of it , just the usable bits.

    • @Anon-fv9ee
      @Anon-fv9ee 3 роки тому +1

      Correct. 1 & 2 were the original tram terminus at Wynyard. If you go there now, platforms are numbered 3/4 (north shore line) and 5/6 (city circle) only. The upper level is a similar layout to North Sydney station - two island platforms with tracks either side, so two tracks outside and two in the middle. They bricked up the centre and covered it with billboards, but the cavern exists on the other side.
      Before it was requisitioned for the Menzies Hotel carpark, part of these tunnels were used as the Wynyard Rifle Range!

  • @mews56
    @mews56 4 роки тому +1

    Use the platforms & lines for The reintroduced lightrail tram lines or new metro lines

    • @PossumFilms
      @PossumFilms  4 роки тому

      An interesting idea.

    • @mews56
      @mews56 4 роки тому

      While saving on money upgrading Central station anyway for future extra capacity with the metro-line.

  • @neilforbes416
    @neilforbes416 11 місяців тому

    4:16 Correction: *Not* courtesy "7news" but courtesy *STATION ATN-SYDNEY NEWS!* It's the *STATION* that creates the bulletin! The channel is nothing more than the frequency range(7 Mhz wide) on which the *STATION* transmits its signal!

  • @GoodMrDawes
    @GoodMrDawes Рік тому

    A Thing of Beauty

  • @tamphex
    @tamphex Рік тому

    As a direct result of 9/11, a lot of the exploration (especially public expos conducted by the SCC) were sadly lost due to motion detectors/surveillance. No more just casually hoping down into the Tank Stream next to the SSX at 3AM. You could probably still reach the abandoned Bondi Junction tunnel with some effort though.

  • @stephendaintree460
    @stephendaintree460 4 роки тому

    Does anybody know what's going on underneath Melbourne? If you do, I've heard they're might be something similar happening in Sydney too.

  • @TinderTuesdays-
    @TinderTuesdays- 5 років тому +6

    There’s a movie made about these tunnels that film crew that snuck in there and got attacked

    • @melissamcgrath68
      @melissamcgrath68 5 років тому +3

      I have that movie on DVD. It took me almost a year to find it. It was Sanity, it had to be ordered and took nearly a month to arrive.

    • @LukaGoink
      @LukaGoink 5 років тому +1

      its a hollywood film.... the had permission and it was dramatised.

    • @TinderTuesdays-
      @TinderTuesdays- 4 роки тому +1

      thumbnut it’s called “the tunnel”

    • @TinderTuesdays-
      @TinderTuesdays- 4 роки тому

      thumbnut ua-cam.com/video/t1TjRUrf9R4/v-deo.html

    • @thumbnut3345
      @thumbnut3345 4 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/f4Fk-CkEOiE/v-deo.html - here is a trailer I found

  • @Kangaroos_News
    @Kangaroos_News 5 років тому +5

    Ah the nation builders- the great leftovers of the Victorian era. Building always with the future in mind & achieving truly remarkable things. Then we come to today. Always building with the present in mind & still achieving truly remarkable things, but things which sadly cost more & more because there is no unified vision.

  • @gordonshearston7590
    @gordonshearston7590 5 років тому +4

    Mum used to work a phone switch board in the St James tunnel during the 2nd world war in the control room tells a story about being escorted by a warden down a tunnel using a touch Her day job was working the switch board at Marcus Clarks building now the Tafe building right next to the Darling harbour goods line were in came out of the tunnel under Broadway as the troop trains came through the tunnel the train would blow there whistle mum and the other women would run to the windows next to the line and wave to the men that were going off to war

  • @pauljohansson7697
    @pauljohansson7697 5 років тому +2

    I just subscribed to your channel.

  • @tjejojyj
    @tjejojyj 3 роки тому

    About a year after this was made (2019) the State Government called for expressions of interest to develop these tunnels but, as far as I know, nothing came of it.
    The spare platforms at Central are being used now during the construction of the Central Walk pedestrian tunnels under the suburban platforms and will be used to house equipment for the walk.
    Was any part of The Matrix actually filmed at St James? The subway scenes certainly were not filmed there.

    • @raph6931
      @raph6931 2 роки тому +2

      The scenes with the trainman from the third film were filmed there. You can see Morpheus, Trinity and Seraph jumping over the turnstiles on the main station concourse. After that, you can see the trainman jump in front of a train on a CGI version of the platform, which was filmed by putting a green screen up against the wall above the tracks. You can see it here from 1m 30s onwards: ua-cam.com/video/bIl_V7WyA0I/v-deo.html

  • @utareangara5529
    @utareangara5529 5 років тому +3

    Stuff the metro. a proper eastern suburbs line should have been completed. Futhermore there were also plans for a northern beaches line to connect to north Sydney

    • @peterkehoe1984
      @peterkehoe1984 5 років тому +1

      Problem is the various politicians of all persuasions in this country try to copy what is done in Europe.

  • @kylecalleja8513
    @kylecalleja8513 4 роки тому +1

    I have been there protect it and make sure big gates r closed

  • @MrThedwp
    @MrThedwp 5 років тому +5

    6:38 Have a good WHAT???!!!

    • @PossumFilms
      @PossumFilms  5 років тому

      He's talking about having good fun

    • @MrThedwp
      @MrThedwp 5 років тому +1

      @@PossumFilms I assumed that's what he said but boy does it sound like he's saying something else

    • @PossumFilms
      @PossumFilms  5 років тому

      @@MrThedwp Fair enough

    • @falkerhard
      @falkerhard 5 років тому +4

      I heard that too. Tunnels would be good for that as well.

  • @Callumrileyw4
    @Callumrileyw4 4 роки тому +1

    I live in sydney

  • @glenniscannon7038
    @glenniscannon7038 6 років тому +6

    Fascinating history oration , another waste of money it would seem though worthy of keeping intact

  • @lvaexploration
    @lvaexploration 3 роки тому

    Can you gp down there?

  • @johnmcculloch5736
    @johnmcculloch5736 5 років тому

    I think we need to tap the town planner on the shoulder and ask that person ...but it's too late now.

  • @BennyJay93
    @BennyJay93 5 років тому

    💯💯💯

  • @anfo_4241
    @anfo_4241 3 роки тому

    Why the ominous music?

  • @josephaliberti
    @josephaliberti 5 років тому

    Which tunnel goes to Mobil Avenue? lol

  • @peterirons9773
    @peterirons9773 3 роки тому

    for me the volume is much too low

  • @fingerprint5511
    @fingerprint5511 3 місяці тому

    Great video, music is ridiculous.

  • @MrMakeDo
    @MrMakeDo 4 роки тому +2

    What’s with the sinister horror music?

  • @jenniferschmitzer299
    @jenniferschmitzer299 3 роки тому

    yeah well derr. redfern was the original station prior to central lol. no wonder the society had a building there

  • @bluemarshall6180
    @bluemarshall6180 5 років тому

    🚉 😨

  • @yuk-erkmckirk9277
    @yuk-erkmckirk9277 Рік тому

    Full volume on tablet and still couldn't hear the full story,better luck next time,would have been good to tell what he was talking about.

    • @PossumFilms
      @PossumFilms  Рік тому +1

      maybe it's just your tablet. Volume is fine for him.