How did foreign IDOLS learn Korean so FAST?? (feat. Lisa, Minnie, Felix)
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Have you ever wondered how non-Korean idols manage to become fluent in Korean so quickly? Do they have secret techniques for learning a new language that they haven't shared with the public? Let's explore how they've achieved rapid fluency in Korean and see what lessons we can learn from their experiences to apply to our own Korean learning journey!
0:00-0:30 Intro
0:31-3:07 #1. Significant output
3:08-4:07 Study method recommendation #1
4:08-4:48 Study method recommendation #2
4:49-7:12 #2. Various motivations
7:13-8:17 #3. Systematic curriculum
8:18-11:01 Important message from Yeji
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In our next video, we're going to compare and analyze the Korean of two foreign K-pop idols! Who would you like us to look into? Leave their names in the comments 🤗
Yuqi from Idle
Mark and Ten from NCT
Lisa from Blackpink, Felix from Stray Kids and Ningning from AESPA!!🫶🏽🇰🇷
U from ONF!
Hi my loves. Hope y’all are doing well dear friends ^^ well, you can analyse anyone’s talking skills, team. I will look forward to it.
I always wondered how did they learn but they are surrounded by the language, so that's also helpful...
This i think really is the biggest reason. Like when we were a baby and learned our mother language by hearing from them
I have been in a Javanese speaking city for 5 years because of studying, but I can't speak Javanese cause I don't learn it, of course i am familiar with certain words and expressions, but that's it. So I think the main thing that made people fluent in a foreign language is the learning, the environment that speaks the target language is just a supporting part of it.
Not only that. Tons of foreigners live in Korea but never really learn the language well at all. I think the difference is that they are also *pushed* to learn it. Like when we are children, we are also pushed to say words and make sentences by our parents. It can be a similar method for training KPOP idols. Idols have to be pushed because it's part of their job and time is of the essence to get them to a competent level for public speaking and PR. To a lot of us, it's a hobby, and as a result we don't nearly have the same amount of immersion, environment, and routine for things to stick as quickly.
I spent a year in korea with all my classes in korean and friend groups speaking in korean. I wish that was enough to learn
They take a lot of classes too and that is the foundation of it all.
I think immersion learning makes the difference. A foreign idol who lives in Korea, surrounded by native Koreans, will learn faster than the (many) foreign learners who are living in another country, with no 24h contact with Korean speakers. Even if you study 2 hours a day, which is already a tremendous amount of time, it is not as much as immersion learning.
Exactly. At the end of the day the best way to predict how good someone will be at their target language is how many hours they spend practicing it. All but the most dedicated learners will spend no more than an hour a day on average learning their target language. And we know that 3 years is sufficient to acquire a good language ability with that level of dedication. That means 365 hours per year, which in turn is a bit more than 1000 hours over the course of 3 years.
However if you are living in Korea, constantly being spoken to in Korean. Even if you talk/listen very little you will have 5+ hours of practice each day. That means it will take 6-7 months to learn the same basics most people take 3+ years to learn.
So true. I'm french and i've been sudying kr for 5 months at least 1h a day (sometimes 5). Still not fluent.
That's true!!!
@@LordKeramso true!! Reminds me of the 10 thousand rule
@@growingdying YES! Exactly.
I would say that Japanese people, like Momo, Sana, Mina, and many more, have a little advantage because Japanese grammar is very similar to Korean. Obviously what Lisa said it's key, but they already have the grammar structure, and sometimes similar words. What I have heard from Sana in an interview is that for them pronunciation was the hardest part.
True. Japanese and Korean have almost similar sentence construction
I am hungarian and i have been told by a person who knows both korean and japanese that i should start with korean (the only problem is we don't say the H letter when its combined with another consonant, ex: TH, we just say T. Also it might be a me thing but i don't really hear the difference between hard and soft letters)
@@bubliiekqiiopeople have told me it's better to start with japanese
@bubliiekqiio The Korean "h" sound isn't that hard. Normally you a light puff of air from the back of your throat. It's a soft H. The only other h is pounced with a ch that is like saying a thick J sound.
@@tsuyuasui7297 for me personally I’m having a slightly easier time with Korean than I did with Japanese. I love anime so that’s why I wanted to learn it, I just couldn’t figure out the alphabet as easily as Korean.
The biggest thing for me learning Korean was that already knowing Japanese makes it SOOOOOOOO easy.
Yep. I have a niece who's been learning Japanese for over 10 years and I told her that learning Korean will be way easier for her than it is for me.
@@misspriss2482 I was amazed when I started learning Korean. The grammar, sentence structure, and even a lot of words are almost the exact same. Was just so much easier than when I first learned Japanese.
I'm doing the opposite right now haha! Having already studied Korean is making learning Japanese a million times easier. All you really have to focus on are the Kanji since everything else is so similar!
Yup!! That’s where I’m at now, highly recommend haha Korean is the easiest language to learn for Japanese speakers.
True of the opposite too!
@@Adam-vx6to I started learning Korean before learning Japanese, and I was also amazed at the similarities. Whenever I try to understand Japanese grammar, the best way for me to learn was to compare it with Korean grammar. I also started making a list of all the words that (almost) sound and mean exactly the same lol. Though I feel like polite/formal language is a lot harder in Japanese.
As a "foreigner" who's been fluent in Korean for several years now, I partially agree with most of these points. The evidence suggests that when you start learning a language, especially one as complex as Korean, it's absolutely fine, if not recommended, that you begin with lots of comprehensible input with little to no output. The concept of "start speaking from day one" is partly a myth and partly language-dependent. If you were learning French as a native English speaker, this might be possible, but for Korean, you are far better off learning and listening to as much Korean as you possibly can because if you can't understand what other people are saying, it's pretty pointless to be able produce a few random phrases or sentences. Only once you start understanding the language can you truly participate in conversation and it's waaaay easier to learn how to speak once you have a decent grasp of basic grammar and can understand 1000+ words. I basically got fluent through the TTMIK's 이야기 series and 수다 타임. I literally memorised and mimicked everything from those series and produced it as often as I could with my Korean friends and 1.5 years later, I was essentially high B2, closing in on C1. Don't get it misconstrued though, speaking was ultimately the thing that led me to become fluent of course BUT it was because I developed my listening and vocab first and then got into speaking later on. Good luck guys.
But remember the testing effect can help you to learn by priming your brain too. So output is good early IF you can deal with being bad at it and struggling and not give up. If it’s more likely to make someone quit, then I’d definitely agree with you.
Babies are exposed to many words before they understand them. I guess we should mimic how languages are naturally learned.
Where i can found those series that you mentioned it?
How many years did it take you to get fluent in korean??
@@iamFOvie 1.5 years with about 3 hours of study a day
I am Korean. Even if you ignore Korean Language grammar, Koreans will understand your Korean. Why is that possible? Koreans do not follow standard Korean grammar. Change the word order at will when you speak. Is it strange? I have changed the word order at will so far, but all Koreans understand me. Yes, It's True.
It's important to remember that idols are also doing very intensive learning compared to the average person. Their companies hire teachers for them, and some of them spend hours a day every day doing their Korean lessons on top of their own study and practice outside of class. That's not reasonable for most people, unless you're a full time language student. So people shouldn't compare themselves to idols and get down on themselves about not getting the language as fast, because these idols should be learning much faster than you just based on how much time they're spending studying the language every day with a teacher at their disposal on top of being in a fully immersive environment. Their circumstances are completely different from most people's.
That's such a nice thing to say! We can very easily compare ourselves to them in ways that are simply not fair. Thank you for point that out!
1. Output (talking to speakers):
0.1 - watch/listen Korean speech
0.2 - read out loud, so it's good for your speaking also
2. Motivation
1.1 - internal, when you learn it for your own goals.
1.2 - instrumental, when you need Korean in practice, job.
3. Systematic & consistent learning opportunities. Mostly needed in professionals' help to continue "consistence".
Its so fascinating that minnie and yuqi improved their korean so much by talking to each other even tho theyre both foreigners but they probably made each other very comfortable so they improved really fast
idk about minnie, but yuqi already learned korean in china
I would second your point about reading out loud. It is incredibly helpful.
When I moved to France 20+ years ago and really started learning the language I was given a very helpful tip (much like what you said) "French is learned with the mouth"
I think we concentrate so much on the internal cognitive aspects of learning that we forget that language is expressed through the body, mouth and gesture/body language. Muscles used in each language are different. My mouth used to actually ache a bit after speaking French all day because I was using new muscles. The connections between what you want to say and actually saying it (connecting language centre to motor skills) need to be practiced over and over again to build them. It really helped me to read out loud and ever since I try to do that when I study another language.
OMG i had never realised my mouth muscles ache too when I practice speaking any language I'm learning... I think I had kinda thought about it but never trust myself and just ignore the thought hahah thanks for your advice and motivation 8) So interesting you moved to France!🇫🇷
My mouth also hurts after speaking in French 😂 didn’t make the connection about using new muscles !
I think the US Government calls quick language learning tactics "immersion methods." I worked a truck driver for 30 years and worked my way inside and was transportation managing behind a desk too. At one place I worked, one of my peers was offered a transportation management position at a trucking firm in a small city in France. He took the job despite not knowing ANY French. I saw him three years later when he returned for some family event and he spoke French like a native, at least to my untrained ear. I saw him at a store, and he said the best way he learned is the motivation method described here. He HAD to learn as very few people around him spoke English.
Great video and well presented TTMIK people.
If you think about it, immersion makes perfect sense. That’s how we all learned our language as babies.
Felix is such an angel and always gives his honest advice which I greatly appreciate.
Thank you for this video! I'm hoping to really take my Korean language learning more seriously this year! Fighting everyone!
@@NetrunnerOne because I don't know how .. lol wtf
Lisa is just naturally gifted at learning languages. She speaks Thai, english, japanese and Korean.
And she speaks alittle bit of Chinese too😮
Same as Minnie.
She doesn’t speak Japanese anywhere near fluently.
@@badiahe yeah about as much as anyone could with a few hours of google translate lol. You all honestly overestimate most idols’ language abilities. Other than Korean and their own native language(s), most foreign idols can’t really speak more languages that well.
@scholarssolutions6735 well her English is pretty fantastic so you're wrong there. I speak Japanese and she's fluent. Yoohyeon from Dreamcatcher speaks English glish very very well and Cantonese quite profeciantly and a bit of German. So sorry you're just wrong.
I live in NY and started dating a korean girl 2 months ago who is studying here. I have been using duolingo and deerlingo to learn, but having her teach me the casual informal way to speak to her and her friends has really been the break through for me
Than you probably have a lot of motivation to learn the language! I’ve met my korean boyfriend through tandem learning. And over 5 years later still don’t speak korean and his german improved a bit but we never practiced again together 😅
My streak on Duolingo is like 2000 something and I just don't think it's helpful for fluency. You can learn bits and bobs and some phrases but I don't think it's a good tool for actually conversing and speaking a foreign language well
It worked for mee! 저는 요즘 한국어를 다시 연습해요 ㅎㅎ
A lot of comments here are about immersion, and while that definitely helps just being immersed doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll learn the language. I’ve met so many people who live in countries with very low English levels but who never get proficient in the local language even after years because they’ve found the few people who speak English and get by without it, or don’t challenge themselves etc. Even if you are immersed you still need to put in effort to improve, and at the same time you don’t need to be living in Korea to create an immersive environment!
Well-said! I especially love your last sentence ☺️ Can't agree more
Its also selfish, native speakers are NOT your language teacher and will let you make all those bad grammer mistakes without correcting you, letting your mind form bad habits that you have to unlearn later down the road. A sinking man cannot swim, and found that the people who say you have to go to the country to learn it are just to lazy in there own country and blame there lack of progress on the fact there not in the country.
i dont live in america and i’m not surrounded around english native speaking people that much just by consuming the language to my everyday life, like online friends, music, media, series, singing, for years just made me more fluent than my actual native language 😭
Aw, Felix is one of the reasons why I’m learning Korean! ♥️ This clip of him always reminds me of that and helps me a lot to motivate myself! Thank you for this interesting video!
The summarizing is so effective. My friend and I watch a Kdrama and we summarize each episode in Korean and explain it to each other. Also talking about interesting stories about your life or your concerns to yourself helps a lot with finding words that you don't know and learning them.
I think what a lot of people tend to miss is, aside from factors such as motivation and exposure, languages that have been heavily influenced by Middle Chinese will share a working vocabulary that will often be as similar between each other as European languages'. It's a big reason why East Asian students tend to progress much faster in Korean. With Japanese in particular, both the vocab and the grammar are very similar, so naturally they are likely to learn Korean the fastest.
I really like the idea of learning languages. Lately, i started with Korean. And while improving with the basics, im worrying constantly about my motivation. For now, i think i have the motivation i need. But im not a person who can think on the future and being in peace with me. Depression, anxiety... This type of video helps a lot. Thanks.
Now, apart of that. What video or playlist u can recommend from ur channel to start with basic sentenses? Or... How to start, basicly? I got hangul already... some general vocabulary... But not that much other than that.
Thank you for your comment! We'd recommend the following playlist. This series is one of the most popular series of our channel and is targeted to Korean beginners. As you already learned Hangeul, these videos will come in handy! 파이팅!
ua-cam.com/video/Jzep8XeOvwY/v-deo.html
@@talktomeinkorean Thanks for ur quick response :) gonna check it for sure. Have a nice day/night! :)
It's simple: 1) They have excellent teachers. 2) They have a full immersion environment. 3) They have enormous financial incentive to learn.
A foreign English teacher in Korea has none of these things, so it should be no surprise that most of them never achieve fluency in Korean.
I'll be 40 this year and I've just started learning Korean like a month ago. As a German, who has lived abroad, I'm already fluent in english and a bit of Dutch, but korean is a whole different level. The structure of a sentence is so different and as I get older it's a bit harder to remember everything😅. But I put in a couple hours every day and talk out loud, I'm also trying to make Korean friends here in Germany so I can practice what I've learned. One thing you should never do is give up. You can only improve, no matter how slow of a learner you are.
The difference your mother tongue has with your target language effects everything so much. As a Turk, i learned English by myself and it was hard to understand some parts of structure but since i was like 13 while learning, i just keep on going cuz i didnt have another thing to do. Now im learning Korean which is really similar to Turkish in many ways, i can feel the fun of learning a language. But when its harder, you will feel even more proud after learning it and i bet it will become easier&funnier as you keep going. Never give up!
@syeaahhhh not funnier, more fun**
Yes! This motivated me so much! We got this! 화이팅!!
I’m learning French which is easier for me since I also speak Portuguese and Spanish but I definitely could relate to Felix’s words when I first started learning Portuguese.
Once you accept where you are you can then make the changes necessary to learn well. So don’t stress yourself out comparing yourself to others’ progress. ❤
I've realized hat immersion is really the only way to learn a language successfully, just like how we learn our mother tongue. Without immersion, for me, only about half the information gets retained. I learned how to read and write Spanish in class but to speak it, fluently or not, I had to learn with a native Spanish speaker and only then was I able to pick up on conversation and engage in conversation. I'm learning Korean now which is much more challenging since it uses a Non-Roman alphabet and has many sounds English. doesn't have, like the r/l sound sounds closer in both Spanish and Korean than it does in English. Thanks for the learning tips and I appreciate your channel. 🤍
It's worth keeping in mind that many K-pop idols undergo years of training prior to their debut, so it's not uncommon for some of them to take a while to become fluent in Korean. However, this might not be apparent to fans since they are usually only exposed to the idols after their debut. For instance, Shuhua from (G)-Idle had only trained for 2 years before her debut, and her Korean proficiency wasn't very good at first. Even now, her Korean skills are not very strong. In contrast, some idols have trained for 5, 6, or even 10 years while simultaneously learning Korean.
The clip from Felix really helped me motivate myself when I found learning Korean difficult😭thanks for putting it in
I also recently heard a great metaphor about learning a language. Learning a language can be like climbing a mountain while climbing it will be a long and hard journey but reaching the top and seeing the breathtaking view is totally worth it.
i often watch language learning videos and most of the time they recommend the same tips and tricks to improve. this video though is totally mind blowing!! practical tips mixed with psychological facts is just my cup of tea. i will try to implement every recommendation into my daily life, 선생님!
~ big thank you from italy 💕
Thank you so much, TTMIK ❤
😭😭😭😭 I’ve been trying to learn for 7 years OMG I hadn’t even noticed it was that long!!! But I always feel like I’m still basic and beginner that I can never advance, but Yeji is right when I was reading out loud it was advancing faster and I need to continue that. As someone who doesn’t have friends here to talk to all the time I need to find ways for output. I need to talk more to my friends in Korea in Korean more often as well. One day I will visit Korea again and actually be fluent understanding everything! Goals! 여러분 할 수 있어요! 화이팅! 성생님들 감사합니다!
P.S. it was also 7 yrs ago after wanting and trying to learn Korean on my own that I found TTMIK! Watching its progress is amazing!
focus on input, read, read, read, audio, podcast! you got this!
i almost cried with the message of yeji, im starting korean lessons next week and im so excited but nervous at the same time! thanks for the motivation
Thank you for this video. It has given me some more motivation to keep studying Korean and not be so upset that I am not learning quickly. I’m a slow language learner but I know when it clicks i will be so happy I didn’t give up!!
Btw. I live in Korea. Have a tutor. I have opportunities to speak Korean but often don’t listen to Korean much. I’m trying to increase my intake.
Your videos have become an essential part of my study routine. They help me prepare and understand better than any textbook!
Thank you for including Felix, he really studied korean hard and with help from members, books etc... I am a proud stay having him as inspiration to keep going
Thank you, this was motivational & very appreciated ❤
I love watching all your videos it helps so much.❤
Yess!!! That’s amazing ❤
thank you for this well-explained video - this helped me a lot! :)
i am always trying to revise my learned vocabulary with imagining speaking with idols in korean. It helps alot
I totally agree with Lisa, that is also how I learned how to speak Afrikaans. That woman was merciless, and always spoke to me in Afrikaans. But now that I think about it she actually helped me and I'm grateful.
와 오늘도 좋은 동영상 감사합니다! Thanks for another amazing video! Very interesting
Thank you so much🧡
Very well said! I enjoyed this video and it inspired me to continue pushing to learn Korean. I have a Korean partner but we default to English so much. I want to make a more conscious effort and properly make the best of the fact that I have someone who I can comfortably learn from
Outro music is Henry Young & Ashley Alisha - Play no games. In case anyone was curious.
definitely immersion and the inability of choice/no slacking off really. you're in the country surrounded by the language. people are speaking it, it is on the signs, you need to take the bus, order food. you HAVE to speak it to get by truly. plus for many of them it really is part of their job and they have dedicated time to study on top of all that. it would be awesome to be there taking it all in from every angle!
HORI7ON (호라이즌)'s Marcus can now carry basic conversations with their Korean fans. So impressive! Korean is now his third language after Filipino and English.
It really helps if you practice with native speakers especially in the day-to-day setting like at the grocery
Hi! Great content!!
All of these pieces of advice are very useful! I tried most of them except the first one about speaking with people in Korean. Although I do have Korean acquaintances I'm never sure how to approach them. Especially regarding using social media, one downside is that it's easier for me to write my message in Korean rather than speaking it directly because I have time to think.
I would love to know how to approach Koreans in the future. That would be a great tip for me if you would like to teach it.
Also, I have to say that speaking Korean out loud or any other language is a tip that saved me so much! I tend to think that it's a pretty underrated method that should get more attention from learners. It doesn't only help you improve your pronunciation and speaking abilities but also helps you get over the anxieties of speaking Korean or any other language you learn. I know it's a bit cringe at first to hear yourself but you'll come to like it when you get results from this kind of practice.
Have a good day and keep up the great work!
thank u!! These tips are great :)
Just saw this at my recommendations. Korean isn't really my target language but I'm sure to use your advice on other languages i do want to learn!
Thank you sharing this encouraging video @Talktomeinkorean. :)
You are so welcome!
It's not a mystery. They learn it so fast the same way babies learn English so fast. They are immersed in it, they hear it all day, and everyone around them speaks it. If you are constantly having to speak it to be understood and people are constantly talking to you in that language, you will learn it a lot faster. On the opposite end of the spectrum, I am a native English speaker and no one I know speaks Korean. Other than language apps or apps where I can connect with a native speaker, I have zero opportunities to speak Korean. I don't hear it all day long either so I don't use it all day nor do I have to think in that language. We can make use of some of their techniques, but we shouldn't compare ourselves to them.
OMG the reading aloud tip is gold. It's so obvious but I never actually thought of it.
Good video! These days I don't really know where i stand in korean learning,its like I'm not making any progress. I feel like my mind has been put on halt.
Loved the video ❤
I completely agree with everything that was mentioned. What helped me the two times I lived in Korea was going downtown and surrounding myself with Koreans interacting so I could study body language, tone, etc which helped me with my confidence and accent. I would then purposely put myself into situations where I needed to use my Korean in order to buy something, ask a question, etc. Don't worry about making mistakes...it's going to happen..just be sure to learn from those mistakes. Even now my Korean is not what it once was since I have been away 7 years, but I am starting courses next week in order to be fluent by the time I move back in 2025 and I can't wait!
I so agree with the motivation point. I learned German from A1 to C1 in a year and a half because I really wanted to study abroad there. So I had a very strict deadline, because my parents would never allow a gap year. Maybe sign up for a A2 exam while you are still beginning a A2 level. It creates a sense of urgency and motivation to not lose the money and not pass the certificate
I think immersion helps a lot, I feel my Korean has increased a lot than before after I started working as an Kor-Eng interpreter/translator, even tho I still have a lotttttt to learn but yea I am better than before~
thank you, i believe this will be helpful, even for other languages :)
i always wanted to know this!
Found a great channel. Wishing you endless development of your channel.[hangeul & korean]
Age....being in your twenties, and before, and trying to learn a new language is easier than in your 30s/40s and 50s. It's just how your brain works, absorbs, processes and picks up new things as you get older, languages included. I still can speak French from learning it in secondary school in England and that was 30 years ago (but it's my weakest of my four languages). I lived in Sweden when I was 24 and was fluent after two years. That was almost 20 years ago, but I can still switch easily to Swedish. My Korean is high intermediate, but that's after 16 years of living in the countryside. Korean grammar especially at the high intermediate and advanced is numerous and very specific. When I speak to the Korean teachers at my school they tell me most of that grammar is not needed in every day talking. It's just for tests.
These explanations are all part of how they tend to learn Korean so fast, but there is a lot of biology behind it too. And the biology of language learning is what will keep older language learners frustrated even if they are able to apply most or all of the things you highlight in this video
There are two primary scientific/biologic factors at play here: Age and their native language's proximity to Korean
Studies have shown that children and teens/young adults learn foreign languages significantly faster than adults even after other factors are accounted for. For one, most of these idols start training in middle-school or younger, and their young brains are still developing new neural pathways at a staggering rate. The more a person ages, the harder it is to do that. Plain and simple. An additional age-based factor is related to the fact that as our brains age, we actually lose the ability to hear and process many of the phonemes used in spoken foreign language IF we haven't been using them ourselves or frequently exposed to them (in general - there's always going to be exceptions). So a native English-only speaker will generally lose most of their ability to hear many of the subtle differences in certain pronunciations that are absolutely vital to learning to understand and speak another language. Of course, the more different a language is from the native speakers', the more profound the effect
Which brings us to how similar your native language is to the language you're trying to learn. If you are born in China, Japan, or even Southeast Asia as many K-Pop Idols are, chances are pretty good that you can distinguish the different subtleties in sounds/pronunciations/phonemes used in the Korean language more easily than a native English speaker. Hell, many Korean words are derived from Chinese. If you couple that with the fact that these idols are literally moving to Korea (immersion) at a young age (brain still forming, tons of new neural pathways available), then it's no wonder some of them pick up on it "so easily". Combine that with some of the grammatical similarities between many Asian languages and they have a *massively* significant advantage over your typical, average, adult Korean learner (especially those of us used to Latin-based/Germanic language sentence structures)
Basically, even without the huge investment by their entertainment agencies for round-the-clock tutors and such, they would STILL have an easier time than the vast majority of us. It's certainly not impossible, just saying that if you are an adult language learner, you just simply cannot compare yourself to a child/teen language learner. If all other factors are equal, you'll still have a harder time, sadly 😭😭😭
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its helpful when they are surrounded by other people that are speaking korean
i always wondered this. impressive how they learn so fast
well said, i learned chinese in university in my country but i went to China to study and i saw the difference, learn much more in China, my teacher spoke just chinese, i have to speak chinese to make people understand myself, i made chinese friends, some speak english but i have some who don't speak english and i have to speak chinese with her. I spend 6 month in China, i didn't become fully fluent but after 6 month i could make a conversation just in chinese
Hi I love watching your videos, I've been learning Korean for a while buy I'm not fluent yet
I really love Korean language, I'm a beginner and I hope I can speak fluently very soon. I'm Mexican and live in Canada since 1998. For me, Korean is easier to learn than Japanese, I work in a hotel and there are few co workers from Korea, so far I haven't practice talking to them but when I feel more confident for sure I will. I'm subscribed to TTMK and I ordered some books too. Excellent tips, I'm sure I will improve my Korean in no time. Greetings from Toronto.
In terms of language acquisition living in an environment where people only speak your target language is crucial to improving quickly, also the urge to improve to survive and live a more social live plays a role too I think. Personally I think listening to comprehensible listening content is very useful to fake the first thing I mentioned, in some way :)
native speakers are not your parents or teachers. native speakers will not correct your mistakes, letting you form bad habits which you will have to unlearn later down the road making your job twice as hard. focus on input, both reading and audio get to above intermid and then immersion will be a benefit
A study was done about languages and it stated that Korean is a scientific language, a logical language unlike most languages - which means it should be easy to learn without being stressed out. Thats why many people can speak, read and write it in less than a year.
There's an Indian Kpop idol who did an interview in Korean, when asked how she learnt the language, she said she's been learning for 6 months (at the time of the interview) everyone praised her for being close to fluent at such a short time.
I learnt how to count from 1-10 in Korean and it took me less than 20 seconds. I plan on learning Korean soon.
The problem you people find it difficult is because you "believe" it is. You need to understand how the brain works. I have love for science and philosophy so I'll share this knowledge with you.
From a Neuroscience perspective, your brain, the subconscious mind that stores information such as your memories, habits, experiences, beliefs etc. It calculates everything making a decision before you become consciously aware of it. Your subconscious mind is "automated" meaning, it does all calculations automatically - for example, if someone ask you what is 5+6, you'd intuitively (automatically) answer 11 without even having to think about it (the conscious mind does the task of thinking) so what does all this mean?...
Your beliefs affects your reality, your brain automatically calculates your beliefs and act upon it so if you believe learning Korean is hard, then you will either lose interest or keep being stressed out about it because your brain makes decisions around your beliefs without you being aware. Your brain is creating that reality.
What you have to do is, let go of those beliefs, then you need to "want" to learn the language because your "wants/desires" pushes you to take action, the brain automatically does that without you being aware.
Important note/tip: when you repeat something over and over, it programs your subconscious mind, that's where all data is stored. Your subconscious mind is calculating everything you learned and then you will become consciously aware (aka remembering what you learned) just don't overthink.
2 weeks ago, i watched a scene From a kdrama and just a few days ago, i came across "a shorts" video of it on UA-cam. Soon as i saw the thumbnail, i remembered the the entire scene in great detail in only 1 or 2 seconds. I've been having this experience lately where i remember things accurately in great detail in just a matter of seconds. So i did some research and found out it something called "active recall" or "photographic memory" I think this is now happening because i let go of all ridiculous beliefs i had, i started improving my logic and reasoning skills, training my brain on awareness, memory and more.
So yeah, i hope this knowledge helps. If you have questions, feel free to ask. I love helping others 😊
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This was so helpful. For some reason, so many people on youtube say stuff like, "I just took a week and learned all the grammar, then picked up all the vocab in the next month. After that, I was just fluent." It's just pointless and depressing. But this helped a ton. Thank you!
Thank you for sharing!
Awesome stuff
Immersian learning is so difficult for me here....I've lived in S. Korea for 2 years, and still cant even have a conversation...now mind you, i live in what would be considered the "countryside." So whenever i have the chance to talk to Native Koreans, it's only at the supermarket or at my job. And it's only basic conversation, like "do you need a bag? Would you like your receipt?" I once tried small talk with the cashier and she didnt even acknowledge it. 😂 And whenever i go to Seoul and try to speak Korean, they either speak English back to me, or the Korean is so advanced that im completely lost and all conversation just stops. 😂 I've joined language exchange apps but very quickly learned that that is NOT what they are for here. I wish Koreans (in my towm) loved small talk!!! That would be so helpful!!!
It took me around 2 years alone to get adjusted to the language. I'm not much of an active learner, I just practice by making new friends, but after living in Korea for 6 years, I'm pretty confident with my abilities. Give yourself some more time and it will come to you naturally! Also, I know those apps like HelloTalk can be difficult. I tried many times too. Your better chance is to become a "regular" at a local bar or Cafe and make friends there. That's what I did!
Minnie ! ❤The reason I'm learning Korean
Immersion is key to learning foreign languages
Thank you for the insightful video. Obviously for many reasons, as "normal" learners, outside of the country, we're learning the language slowly which can be highly frustrating.
Many of us may never be able to switch the subtitles off, especially if we let frustration get to us.
However, if we put enough effort, if we're diligent and patient enough, we may go way further than we thought possible of. In a few months spent in the country, we may improve very quickly based on the foundation we learnt beforehand. At least that's what I like to believe.
Anyway, let's keep enjoying the process of learning which might be the best method for the long term. No matter how slow we're learning, it's still learning.
Thanks to TTMIK, the process is made fun, interesting, and diverse. TTMIKers from all around the world, fighting !
NB ; 6 months to learn a language is extremely short, even spending this time in the country. As someone who had to learn a second language from scraches at age 16, it took me 2 years to be fluent.. and the language was very close to my native language ! After 6 months I could communicate on a basic level, but not make jokes, invente wordplays or speak my mind with nuance. So I kinda guess it's the same for them. Let's keep our goals reasonables everyone 💖
Good video ❤
Ohwow, thanks!!
Immersion is key. It helps to accelerate the “input” for sure. I hope to visit Korea in the next couple of years, but in the meantime, I would like to do a language exchange with a native speaker. I try to expose myself by listening to and reading Korean out loud every day; even if I don’t know every word, I sound it out words and look them up to see how accurate my pronunciation was after all.
When I learn as well, my 쌤 only speak in Korean and I have no way to interact with her other than trying to speak in Korean. Within 2 months I can speak basic expression, within 9 months I can already order food for myself in the restaurant. This is 5hrs daily 5 days a week for 2 years straight and I finished learning from Level 1 all the way to Level 6. My TOPIK score was Level 5 at that time. So I do agree being forced to speak and live in and around the language helps a lot.
Hi from Thailand 감사합니다, 예지씨 :D
i've never been so quick to a ttmik video lol
From experience working as a sound engineer, I feel like the best practice they have is the intense recording sessions they do where they have to get the perfect take over and over with meticulous attention to every syllable.
They often end up with a conscious understanding of the subtle details of the language that even native speakers only understand subconsciously.
Meaning, their approach to language is closer to how most people would approach learning a new musical style/instrument than learning a language.
thank you
❤ 훌륭한 콘텐츠, 정말 감사합니다!
Watching this type of video gives me hope in future that I can understand Korean in future & speak fluently on it. I can write Korean but I have a hard time when reading it (I can understand some words tho) but when creating a sentences, I quickly lose it...
I have a friend who learn from drama, then went to the country and actually spoke with the people there. So you're most likely right👍🏽👍🏽
Can you make those kind of videos in Korean dear TTMIK, please? It's really effective for us for practicing listening Korean while learning something about "learning Korean". 💫💜
IMMERSION! 💁🏿♂️
Thanks to ttmik for everything. I've learnt a lot. currently I'm watching ttmik videos and ebsfmkorean broadcast. But I always get confused while using korean sentence making particles and word ending particles. Please give a lesson in this. ❤I'd really appreciate it. Thanks again.😊
when you have a private teacher, who you can ask at any time, and you are forced to study several hours a a day, you learn pretty quick i'd imagine.
My family always wanted to send me out to Austria or Switzerland to family/friends to improve my german (i've been to Austria twice and in Switzerland once + they're planning to take me to Austria to my bestie in summer break and go to Switzerland in the 2024 winter break and spend New Year's there) aside from this, these tips really help! (there were some stuff i knew in the video myself but tbh i think i just lack motivation in my life in general lol. I am lucky that im a fast learner😄👍)
How K-pop Idols Learn Korean Quickly (Summed up)
Focus on Output: Prioritize speaking and writing actively, not just passive input (listening/reading).
Practice Methods:
Summarize videos in Korean
Explain experiences to imaginary Korean friends
Read aloud in Korean to improve fluency
Strong Motivation: Both internal (liking K-pop) and instrumental (career advancement) motivations boost learning
Consistent, Structured Support: Their labels provide systematic training and resources.
What We Can Learn
Increase Your Speaking Practice: Find ways to actively use Korean, even if you don't have many Korean-speaking people around.
Build Stronger Motivations: Look for practical applications of Korean beyond K-pop and dramas to stay motivated.
Utilize Established Resources: Use well-designed curricula and services like Talk To Me In Korean for a structured learning experience.
Important Reminders
Learning Pace is Individual: Don't compare yourself unfairly to idols. They have unique advantages and still work hard over time.
Be Kind to Yourself: Language learning takes time and effort. Celebrate your progress!
I was just thinking about this lately... I have been learning korean by myself at home since 2020 already and I am intermediate (I think) I already know lots of words I can use, enough grammar to comunicate, but still find it difficult to understand everything I hear in korean and I can't express myself that fluently either, I really felt stuck in my learning progress; but yesterday thanks to another video and now this one as well I got a bit motivated again, it's true that even if I consume a lot of korean content it's still not the same as being always sorrounded by korean and having to speak it, so in the other video the girl said she just listened to a podcast in the language she's learning and just understand what she did and just "ignore" what she didn't, kinda learning as natural as babies do when they start speaking! So I thought "if I already know enough things, why stressing that much?" I'll just keep speaking the best I can and listening when I consume korean content and don't stress or get anxious with the things I don't understand, it is OK!! Thanks to this video now, I can see that it is true, I have NO korean people to talk with, I am as far from Korea as many of us and I am not HAVING to speak it to comunicate in daily life, so guys, let's not give up!! 화이팅!! 그리고 TTMIK의 선생님들 이 영상을 주셔서 너무 감사합니다💞
저도요! 화이팅 ㅎㅎㅎ
I support your efforts
Go for it
I'm learning Korean for 3 years now and I'm not close to where I want to be which is my English level (2nd language to me). I comfort myself by remembering it took literally decade to achieve level that suits me, so I take my time and keep working.
한국어 배우는 형제자매들에게 힘을 내세요! 우리는 할 수 있어요
I bought 5 books of Talk to me in korean and its very good! I still have my 9th level to finish and the 10th to start 💪
I'm not learning Korean, but Japanese instead, but a lot of your tips resonate with me and others have said. I need to continue to play JRPGs like Persona for more immersion.
I'm 65 year old and try to learn Korean. Maybe I should start a career as K-Pop Idol in Seoul. YG, please contact me.
Perhaps you should find a Korean Church with a choir closer to home! I have a UA-cam video singing a solo in a Korean church when I was 73.
You are the best I also wish getting heart from a Korean 😢❤