Wars of the Roses Battle Report - 01 (Hail Caesar Battle Report)
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- Опубліковано 29 лют 2020
- Our first game of Hail Caesar for our Wars of the Roses forces. William Hastings vs The Duke of Somerset. Small game with simple objective with additional points for units destroyed or shaken at the end of the game. A few mistakes in game, a few disorders were missed as well as a few movement rules but overall we had a great game.
Many thanks to my opponent Matt for an awesome game
Music:
War Horde by Rafael Krux
Link: filmmusic.io/song/5391-war-ho...
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Lord of the Land Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Preaching to the Choir by TeknoAXE
Great battle rep for someone looking into Hail caesar hope to see more from you soon!
Thanks very much 👍😀 we already have plans for the next one leading on from this
Best battle report I've seen so far ,loved everything about it ,great presentation only problem now is I want to play hail ceaser 👍👍👍
Wow that's awesome 👍😀 thanks very much. Was pleased with how it came out, got some ideas for the next one.
Haha I know that pain but I can highly recommend Hail Caesar and Black Powder - Great rules 👍
Excellent presentation, played in a lovely spirit. Thank you.
Really glad you enjoyed it 👍😃
Great game. Very much enjoyed the layout, table and painted figures. I have not played hail Caesar in a long time but has inspired me to get it off the shelves again. Thought you edited the film well. It plays very nicely, thank you.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it 👍 have learnt a few things from this one which I'll be thinking about when filming the next 😀
Really great battle report buddy. I enjoyed that a lot.
Awesome Thanks mate 👍 glad you enjoyed it
Epic and gorgeous, spectacular terrain and minis!
Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed it 👍 The mat was made by my opponent, it's so nice to game on
I like your introduction of the troops at the beginning! Nice game!
Thanks very much 👍
Wow! Excellent Battle Report, great production, camera angles, background music, etc, even color representatve dice!!! Looking forward to seeing more...you now have lot to answer for, am now looking at WotR with Perrys as a new period, And its all your fault!!! Ta, ps, love the T shirt, Lemmy RIP.
Thanks very much 😁👍 really pleased you enjoyed it. Tried to make the game as easy to follow as possible, have some ideas for the next one which we have planned. Will happen as soon as we can be in the same room again.
The perry stuff is lovely, so many options 👍
Got to love Lemmy and Motorhead 🤘
Another outstanding battle report and video of game play in action.
Thanks very much 👍
Great bat rep. Well filmed. Good edit.
Looked great fun. You called it lol. New dice required.
Enjoyed it mate. Well done.
Cheers mate 😀👍 I'm really pleased with how it came out.
Definitely chucking those dice haha will be doing another soon leading on from this one
Great battle report, figures are lovely, all the best, Garry
Cheers mate, glad you like it 😀👍
Top quality mate. You're really making it hard to resist investing.
Haha sorry bud, though the more the merrier 😁
Great looking armies and table, good battle report 😁👍
Cheers mate 😀👍 glad you enjoyed it
Rally nice battle report! And a good way of doing movement since there is a lot of rolling of... Hope there will be more soon!
Thanks very mich 👍 pleased ylu liked it, i dodnt want the vid to get bogged down on the movement as you say there is alot of rolling before anything happens. Focusing on the combat seemed a better way to go (though with my rolls may be not 😄)
We have another one planned, leading on from this one
Nice table. Great work!
Thanks very much 👍
I realise that this is a very late comment, but in case you haven't seen it anywhere else ... To get more "mileage" out of your casualty figures, put them on bases, and number the edges of the bases - 1,2,3,4 for a square base; 1,2,3,4,5,6 for a hexagonal base; and 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 for an octagonal base. When 1 casualty is suffered, place the edge marked "1" next to the unit's base. When a second casualty is inflicted, rotate the base so that the "2" is next to the unit's base, etc.
Thats brilliant thankyou, i did something similar when i started my Napoleonic project 👍
@@7thson726 Just sharing what I've picked up from other wargamers.
@@grahamtravers4522 thats the great thing about this community, the passing on of tips and tricks 👍
Brilliant Battle Report!!!
Thanks very mich 😀👍 glad you enjoyed it
Great game, really nice to watch and very entertaining
Really pleased you enjoyed it 👍
Really nice battle report. Well done.
Thanks very much 👍😀 glad you liked it
Great looking battle mate. Hail Caesar seemed to work well
Cheers mate, it did work well, we are going to make a few modifications for next time (rules for misfire on artillery, individual commander traits etc)
loved the report !! must dig out the couple of Perrys boxes i have and make a start!
Cheers glad you enjoyed it 👍
Cool. Just found your channel and saw this video and recognised the Heraldry. My ancestors the De Quertons came over with William the conqueror and married into the Hastings family which over time changed into the Whartons. We still have that Manche or sleeve in the Wharton coat of arms.
Brilliant, welcome aboard, Hastings is one of my favourite characters from the period, you will find him and ia heraldry popping up alot in games on the channel 😁
i think im going to have to look into hail caeser brilliant bat rep absolutely loved it
Thanks very much 😁👍 its a great system which really shines when you start to add little bits to it
Excellent battle mate
Thanks mate 👍😀
Awesome stuff however the baby scream at 6:57 or so freaked me out and had me looking for what made the sound in my house 🤣
Haha i jad to listen back but yep, that was definitely my baby haha
Great report really enjoyed it. Make a me want to find some appropriste dogs and give it a go. Thanks
Go for it! thanks very much 👍
I love it, great battle report, well done!
I really like that you use casualties markers, more of a immersive battlefield.
How many casualties markers do you think is needed for a game?
Im about to paint some casualties, but after looking at this I think I need more then 12.
Thanks very much 😀👍 really glad you enjoyed it.
I do prefer using them to counters, I'm currently trying to think of something I can do to show disorder however turning one base around seemed to work well
The stamina of a standard unit is 6 (I'm used to 3/4 in blackpowder) and we had 20 however my opponent had forgotten his hence we ran out. I'm going to try and do about 25/30 but I'm going to mix in some dead horses, broken shields and equipment and whatever else I can find 👍
@@7thson726
Im working on a idea of a "disorder-marker" that will blend in on the battlefield and still easy to see that it is a disorder marker.
My question is how many disorder marker is needed during a game? 6, 12, 24, 30 more?
When I got it done I will share it with you all.
@@NicGamz awesome
You'd potentially need one for each unit you have, in the unfortunate event your whole army suffers disorder. If you supplying for a complete game the double that. We had 8/9 units a side so 20 would have been more that enough 👍
@@7thson726 Good, thank you. I will use 20 markers as the default number then for a " game ". See what I come up with.
I wonder why the miniature Companies have not thought about this, I mean they make great casualties markers. :)
@@NicGamz I know, it does seem like good opportunity for some mini dioramas of guys running or falling over
Great battle! I've been looking for Wars of the Roses and 100 Years rules. What lists are you using, please?
Thanks 👍 will be more to come soon. We are using the Wars of the Roses lists for Hail Caesar that were put out by Perry Miniatures on their facebbok page for their games. We made a few changes though reclassifying bill and bow as medium infantry crom the main rulebook
@@7thson726 Groovy. I'll look it up. Cheers!
Great Battlefield! Can you make video how you made this mate?
It was my opponents but i do plan on Making one and there will definitely be a video when i do 👍
love your videos,
I was wondering if i might crave your momentary indulgence with a question.
I have had a 20 year break from wargaming and recently decided to get back into it. I now mostly got 400 models painted up for 15th century historical 28 mm models and built myself a rather large table to play on,
The reason i quit 2 decades ago was my issues with my suspense of disbelief. I like a good individual sense of each model like in warhammer battle, but the weirdness of some rules (for playability reasons) of many gamesets really became an issue to me as i became a re-enactor, a rider, a HEMA practitioner, and then became professionally involved by working at the Royal Armouries and the Dutch Army Museum. It just seemed to me that movements, ranges, modifiers and numbers of turns just were really off.
is there a good gameset for 200-odd models a side 15th cenury warfare simulations that you can recommend?
i know my sensibilities are a bit weird and i don't think people should necessarily agree with me on the basis of game mechanics, playability and fun.
On a sidenote, maybe i am not looking properly, but what is your background? it just seems you know what you are talking about. Is it general interest or do you have re-enactment or historical background?
Hello my friend, thank you very mich for your comment, i appreciate the kind words and I'm glad you enjoy the content. I know where you are coming from, i like rulesets whede i can easily ammend things to suit my sensibilities without breaking anything, thats why I enjoy Hail Caesar and Black Powder. They can be easily adapted and teaked to taste. Other sets include Never Mind the Billhooks and another im fond of Impetus. Impetus may be worth a check 👍
Didn't realise that came through in the videos but i have a deep seated interest in history. I'm also a practising professional archaeologist 👍😁
Hope that helps mate and hope you continue to enjoy the content
@@7thson726 i might as well feed the algorithm a little more!
yes it is very apparent you have done your homework. Do you have some good reading on the wars of the roses? (when i say good reading, i would very much like some actual contemporary chronicles, as a lot of later books are raaaather biased and filling in LARGE gaps)<
i studied archeology myself, actually, very cool to see.
I was looking at the hail ceasar rules you use and the combat seems a little abstract,
I always loved the individual feeling of the GW rules, but they massive overpowered magic and characters seem very annoying to me. (not to mention totally non-historical, obviously)
I am toying with a D20 based system of my own devising, heavily leaning on 'epic' rules from GW, with a bunch of scaling on the basis of personal experience.
I built my table at 6 m x 2 meters, so i can have (at 28mm scale) 2 bowshot distance between the armies at the start. (because bowshot is 3 meters in 28 mm scale)
I also hope to use much more differentiated modifiers in the dicerolls, as the D20s allow much more for that.
Ah well, see how i go... Trying to paint up a 100 model pikeblock atm, as that is the very smallest pikeblock i have been able to find historically. (most were 400-1000 men, but up to 5000!)
hope to help by spamming comments on the channel, take care!
@@airnt that's a labour of love. Good luck.
What scale is this? I love huge medieval tabletop battles like this!
Hi there, glad you liked it, all the miniatures are 28mm 👍
enjoyed your game and your compilation style. what was the music piece you used? it add real atmosphere
Cheers glad you enjoyed it 👍😀
All the music used is in the description 👍
@@7thson726 cool - hope you do some more games soon
Still looking for Army lists for this period! Where do i can get these lists?
The ones in this game were from the Perry Facebook page, since then I have house ruked alot more based on those original ones which can be found here drive.google.com/file/d/1qQC-2M9NQO1nN89HuAZ1AN7DjVOpya4q/view 👍
Intrigued by the roads and ‘beaten earth’ yards. They look great.
Are they an integral part of the mat? Would love to know how they were made.
The mat belonged to my opponent but i belive he made them by shavung amd cutting the fur away then laying own a layer of thin filler with sand. Then painted brown and dry brushed up to highlight 👍
@@7thson726 - Thanks for the info. Wonder how he stopped the dried filler from warping. I suppose the fur blanket keeps things well stretched and flat.
@@sirrathersplendid4825 I'll ask him next game 👍
@@7thson726 -That would be great. Thanks!
I guess you used Hail Caesar rules for this game, right? Is there a game by War Lord for this era? I just bought The English Army 1415- 1426 and Mounted Men at Arms 1450-1500. I guess they can’t go together or can they? What would I know I’m American. We had Cowboys and Indians.
Yeah this is using Hail Caesar with Army Lists from the Perry Miniatures FB page 👍 Hail caesar is also made by Warlord. To be honest i cant see why you couldnt mix them all in. The Wars of the roses start because of the end of the 100 years war so alot of kit would have been passed down. Ive mixed in a couple of earlier figures and 1/2 my casualties are from the agincourt set.
I enjoyed that battle report. Of course, now I want to start collecting medieval armies...this is not helping - I have a backlog already
Cheers 😀👍 I find it best just not to fight it anymore. That's how I ended up doing the Wars of the Roses haha
Shame it didn’t go your way, but looked like a fun game nonetheless. There’s always next time. 😉
Haha definitely, got the next one planned 😁👍
Are you using the Perry WotR stats?
Yeah we did with one exception, we changed the household troops to medium infantry using the stat line in the main rulebook so to differentiate them from the armoured foot knights who we left as heavy infantry 👍
Cocked dice...? just get a box to roll the dice in... Then no question mark over what is "cocked dice"
Haha yeah very true, i do have one but keep forgetting to dig it out 👍