I loved Misplaced and Clutching. For me, that was a band at the peak of creativity. It's a testament to them that the live recordings of the songs are even better than the studio versions. Looking back, although it came as a shock to hear Fish had left, one doesn't feel shortchanged: those two albums were complete works of art - lyrics, cover design, music, and a feel for the general spirit of the age. Maybe it was time to move on.
I met Marillion after a concert in Los Angeles in 1990. Couldn't have been nicer. I shook Ian's hand and said something about Steve Hackett Band, and he said, "Steve who?" with a nudge nudge, wink wink.
I met Pete when the band I was in was supporting another band he was in. He came over and introduced himself (the rest of them ignored us). We had a lovely chat. He's a real gent.
One of my biggest bass heroes! 😀 Actually had an email exchange with him when the first Kino album came out. Super down to earth fellow. I enjoyed the interview!- Brent, VT USA
I’m in Aylesbury at some point most weeks and I see and say ‘hello’ (but no more) to Pete probably once every six weeks. He lives very local to Aylesbury town centre, so much so that he can (and does) simply walk into town, when he has something in town to do. He and Fiona (his wife) are as down-to-earth as it gets.
Those who pre-ordered the Seasons End box-set I think, like myself, would get their wares before that stated date...A great interview, although we might have heard some of that somewhere before, I guess...
Pete used to live in the next street to me in Aylesbury, Fish live 3 streets the other way. Great guys and a great band. I was at the gig when they brought Steve to Aylesbury, a fantastic show. Nettlebed has a great folk club by the way.
So strange to hear about the Clutching tour. I saw them in Stockholm, no warm-up act, and the concert was delayed, they said it was due to "The drummer has an upset stomach", but in the end we got a concert. The strange thing is I did not think it was that loud, the sound was crisp, sounded really good. Then I tried to talk to my friend and I realised it was really loud in the arena. I still say the sound was the best consert sound I've heard, at least during the 1900's. Really good concert memory, with all the broken strings etc.
But it sounds perfectly credible and convincing, his memories of that tour. Very parallel to what Fish says about reasons of his quitting (the band becoming too big, too much of all over the top things). They just weren't prepared to become a big-time rock touring machinery the way Kiss or Aerosmith or later Metallica did. They were like a crafty, refined small-scale hand-made car builder not ready to become a mass mainstream manufacturer.
Clutching At Straws and Season's End are my two favourite Marillion albums (like my prog with large dollops of commercialism). It could be said, however, that Clutching At Straws is Fish's best solo album!
Producer Nick Tauber recorded our band in 1990 and after a couple of weeks had to go off to LA. The recordings were finished, but he said we'd mix the album together when he returned to the UK. Shortly after he sent a tape with final mixes stating 'this is your album lads, hope you like it.' There was no money left and no consultation with us. We split the band shortly after because of his actions and the album eventually had a posthumous release. I thought he did quite a good job, but it was a snide and backhanded thing to do.
Enjoyed this but it’s a pity the interviewer is more interested in his next question than actually listening to what Pete is saying and exploring that. Poor interviewing technique. After long and interesting answers he says things like ‘good!’ Please listen better.
Pete is such a great guy - the sort I'd love to sit down in the pub and chew the Marillion fat with, except he doesn't drink.. 🤭 Marillion are a national treasure and to us their fans we feel incredibly lucky to have them. Cheers Pete, keep on rocking or being quirky!! Great interview! 🙏👍
The fact is that apart from "Marbles", this is the only Steve Hogarth album i like. Without Fish they lost a mystique, a je ne sais quoi they've never recovered. I've really tried to like them and i've listened to most of their albums but the fact is they bore me. However, i will get the deluxe edition as I'm intrigued with the extras, outtakes, unreleased tracks etc.
Brave took me the longest to like but now I love it. I think Afraid of Sunlight, Anoraknophobia and Sounds That Can't be Made are brilliant. I also love FEAR. This Strange Engine took a while with me esp title track, but now a favourite 😁
I saw Marillion at The Palladium in Hollywood for Straws. There were only a hundred or so people in the audience. It was an absolutely brilliant show that felt like a private performance.
my 1st concert was the misplaced childhood tour in 86, liverpool royal court. i saw the clutching tour in birmingham and i agree it wasn't the same in huge arenas. the band returned to liverpool after fish left, a sort of introducing steve tour but the crowd just sang all the lyrics and steve just stood there holding the mike at the crowd. met pete and mark during the interval and they signed my web magazine.
Spookily, I saw my first band at Friars in Aylesbury when I was 17 or 18. That band was Marillion (on the Script tour) and I haven’t stopped listening to them.
I admit to being worried when Fish left , but then heard Hooks in You, and suddenly all seemed fine , and the rest is history. I still love Marilllon , the best band prog or otherwise, but Hooks in you is in my top five tracks. I love the meaty mix version, just a fabulous go to song Along with Neverland and now Be hard on your self . Great interview, thanks CRR.
I never got into Steve Hogarth. I tried on several albums but his way of singing is so flat, uninspiring and lacks the dynamics, mystique and range that Fish had. Also the music of Marillion changed when Steve Hogarth became the singer. So my Marillion journey ended when Fish went solo. And i have been listening to Fish after that.
Well you my friend are missing out on some great music since then. In addition, why are you therefore watching and commenting on a youtube article about their 5th album?
@@michaellupton335 And you in turn are very patronising to that comment.Many bands start with a certain sound and then go on to produce absolute shit.Whats that band now by compare....Oh Iron Maiden or Judas Priest or......Hang on Status Quo ,Rainbow.The list is endless.Marilion were big in the mid 80,s but then got lost amongst many bands at that time.Decay.
@@glennpowell3444 I was of the same mindset Glenn & dropped off when Fish left, that was until I heard Brave which just blew me away. Deserves a listen !
@squintyt4e That way of thinking by comparisons is counterproductive. Marillion is not The Beatles. Both bands are from different eras and evolved in different ways. The Beatles started with cliches - short and simple love songs with banal messages and many of those songs were covers. They were designed pretty much as an entertaining act. Later on the band members found their own individualities free from Epstein's tutelage and evolved musically and individually. Marillion on the contrary, started with 8+ minute long songs with very sophisticated lyrics full of metaphors and most of the topics were not entertaining at all. I guess somewhere here is the difference between art and simple entertainment. Marillion were more of artists. But at the end of the day everything is a matter of taste and everyone is entitles to his own opinion. I personally prefer any Marillion album with Fish to any Marillion album with Hogarth, but of course many people think differently.
No his point isn't comparing Marillion to the Beatles. The point is that Marillion have lots of great music after Script and Fugazi. Many say Clutching At Straws (with Fish) is their best album. I think Seasons End and Brave with Hogarth are wonderful. People are entitled to their opinion but I find it odd to say that the first two Marillion albums are only worth bothering with. It's perhaps understandable to prefer the Fish era over Hogarth. But I must say I think Hogarth is a fantastic singer.
Genuinely interesting interveiw I'm going to presume that in ear monitors were rare to non existant in the late 80,s also I know from experience that there is a point where extra pa just becomes a overwhelming mush
After Fish left, I left Marillion. It's a shame because musically they are a great band and Rothery is one ofy favorites, but for the life of me, I can not stand how Hogarth sings... Can't explain it.
no começo a voz do esteve hogart era perfeita nos shows, agora ta improvisando muito nas musicas antigas, e esta perdendo a tonalidade da voz, o fish tambem não consegue cantar direito, tem cantor de rock que consegue manter sua voz nos shows, mesmo depois de velho, pelo e3nos que repeitem as musicas de sucesso do album season end, musicas lindas, mas que nos shows ficam desafinadas e fora do tom
This interviewer always seems to be bored, no matter what he is talking about or to whom he is speaking.. I have seen a number of his reviews and interviews and always looks like he'd rather be elsewhere.
I'm not sure about that, secretly I'm quite thrilled to be speaking to these guys.. However, in life in general, you are right... I long to be elsewhere. The poet Thoreau said 'most men lead lives of quite desperation' that's certainly me at the moment.
Pete seems to still like fish which is nice to hear. I like the first 4 albums tbh seasons end is okay then they gone too lefties woke lyrically these last 20 years or so it's 2 different bands really.
Love Pete. Always a good-natured, thoughtful interviewee.
I loved Misplaced and Clutching. For me, that was a band at the peak of creativity. It's a testament to them that the live recordings of the songs are even better than the studio versions. Looking back, although it came as a shock to hear Fish had left, one doesn't feel shortchanged: those two albums were complete works of art - lyrics, cover design, music, and a feel for the general spirit of the age. Maybe it was time to move on.
It’s a bit sad that he has such bad memories of it but, just for the record, Clutching At Straws is one of favourite albums.
but only at that time of the night
Their best album. No bad songs. Amazing lyrics.
@@RoastRat Agree to that. Clutching is first on my list.
Pete is a lovely person and an amazing musician :)
Very interesting interview, lots of insight into Seasons End and the transition into the H era. ! Great questions Barry!
Great interview. Love Pete's work with Marillion and Transatlantic.
Another fun interview with a thoroughly decent chap. Always enjoy your interviews.
I met Marillion after a concert in Los Angeles in 1990. Couldn't have been nicer. I shook Ian's hand and said something about Steve Hackett Band, and he said, "Steve who?" with a nudge nudge, wink wink.
seasons end the album that launched marillion into another dimension, great interview barry on one of my fav bands.
Nice to hear Pete talking. Great video. He has restored my faith in the band.
Love all the guys in the band, but I really enjoy listening to Pete. Great interview!
I met Pete when the band I was in was supporting another band he was in. He came over and introduced himself (the rest of them ignored us). We had a lovely chat. He's a real gent.
Pete is the best. Great interview. Thanks Barry. I love your show ( sorry about the wee sentences)
One of my biggest bass heroes! 😀 Actually had an email exchange with him when the first Kino album came out. Super down to earth fellow. I enjoyed the interview!- Brent, VT USA
What a stand up guy! Luv him & his band -there is no equal
Pete seems such a grounded chap. Great person to just sit down and have a pint with (or orange juice in Petes case!).
I’m in Aylesbury at some point most weeks and I see and say ‘hello’ (but no more) to Pete probably once every six weeks. He lives very local to Aylesbury town centre, so much so that he can (and does) simply walk into town, when he has something in town to do. He and Fiona (his wife) are as down-to-earth as it gets.
Those who pre-ordered the Seasons End box-set I think, like myself, would get their wares before that stated date...A great interview, although we might have heard some of that somewhere before, I guess...
Pete used to live in the next street to me in Aylesbury, Fish live 3 streets the other way. Great guys and a great band. I was at the gig when they brought Steve to Aylesbury, a fantastic show. Nettlebed has a great folk club by the way.
So strange to hear about the Clutching tour. I saw them in Stockholm, no warm-up act, and the concert was delayed, they said it was due to "The drummer has an upset stomach", but in the end we got a concert. The strange thing is I did not think it was that loud, the sound was crisp, sounded really good. Then I tried to talk to my friend and I realised it was really loud in the arena. I still say the sound was the best consert sound I've heard, at least during the 1900's. Really good concert memory, with all the broken strings etc.
But it sounds perfectly credible and convincing, his memories of that tour. Very parallel to what Fish says about reasons of his quitting (the band becoming too big, too much of all over the top things). They just weren't prepared to become a big-time rock touring machinery the way Kiss or Aerosmith or later Metallica did. They were like a crafty, refined small-scale hand-made car builder not ready to become a mass mainstream manufacturer.
Just got shipping notification for Seasons End Deluxe. Seems early for a May 19th release date. Anyway, looking forward to it.
Clutching At Straws and Season's End are my two favourite Marillion albums (like my prog with large dollops of commercialism). It could be said, however, that Clutching At Straws is Fish's best solo album!
Pete is a genuinely nice chap. He's completely unguarded and relaxed
Producer Nick Tauber recorded our band in 1990 and after a couple of weeks had to go off to LA. The recordings were finished, but he said we'd mix the album together when he returned to the UK. Shortly after he sent a tape with final mixes stating 'this is your album lads, hope you like it.' There was no money left and no consultation with us. We split the band shortly after because of his actions and the album eventually had a posthumous release. I thought he did quite a good job, but it was a snide and backhanded thing to do.
Your knocking it out of the park again, sir.. excellent 👍
Enjoyed this but it’s a pity the interviewer is more interested in his next question than actually listening to what Pete is saying and exploring that. Poor interviewing technique. After long and interesting answers he says things like ‘good!’ Please listen better.
Brilliant interview.
Pete is such a great guy - the sort I'd love to sit down in the pub and chew the Marillion fat with, except he doesn't drink.. 🤭 Marillion are a national treasure and to us their fans we feel incredibly lucky to have them. Cheers Pete, keep on rocking or being quirky!! Great interview! 🙏👍
The fact is that apart from "Marbles", this is the only Steve Hogarth album i like. Without Fish they lost a mystique, a je ne sais quoi they've never recovered. I've really tried to like them and i've listened to most of their albums but the fact is they bore me. However, i will get the deluxe edition as I'm intrigued with the extras, outtakes, unreleased tracks etc.
I thought same for many years, but then I invested some time in really listening to them and they just kinda crept into my soul
@@sheiladocherty8537 Been trying to get there for some time as well. Trying again with Brave. What music worked for you ?
Brave took me the longest to like but now I love it. I think Afraid of Sunlight, Anoraknophobia and Sounds That Can't be Made are brilliant. I also love FEAR. This Strange Engine took a while with me esp title track, but now a favourite 😁
I saw Marillion at The Palladium in Hollywood for Straws. There were only a hundred or so people in the audience. It was an absolutely brilliant show that felt like a private performance.
Absolutely lovely bloke is Pete, he's full of enthusiasm and you can tell he loves what he does.
my 1st concert was the misplaced childhood tour in 86, liverpool royal court. i saw the clutching tour in birmingham and i agree it wasn't the same in huge arenas. the band returned to liverpool after fish left, a sort of introducing steve tour but the crowd just sang all the lyrics and steve just stood there holding the mike at the crowd. met pete and mark during the interval and they signed my web magazine.
Cheers Barry yet another great video
Spookily, I saw my first band at Friars in Aylesbury when I was 17 or 18. That band was Marillion (on the Script tour) and I haven’t stopped listening to them.
Really enjoyed listening to that over a morning coffee. 😎👍
I always enjoy hearing from Pete. He's insightful.
I admit to being worried when Fish left , but then heard Hooks in You, and suddenly all seemed fine , and the rest is history. I still love Marilllon , the best band prog or otherwise, but Hooks in you is in my top five tracks. I love the meaty mix version, just a fabulous go to song Along with Neverland and now Be hard on your self .
Great interview, thanks CRR.
I never got into Steve Hogarth. I tried on several albums but his way of singing is so flat, uninspiring and lacks the dynamics, mystique and range that Fish had. Also the music of Marillion changed when Steve Hogarth became the singer. So my Marillion journey ended when Fish went solo. And i have been listening to Fish after that.
Agreed @@theaudiosenseinl
Me too😢
I was so disappointed the signed print for seasons end was sold out after just one week so i haven’t ordered it
Lindisfarne, Redbone and McGuiness Flint are great underrated bands of the 70s. Any reviews on them? Hi, I'm from Sri Lanka (Ceylon)
Marillion for me will always be the first two albums and the Market Square Heroes 12"
Well you my friend are missing out on some great music since then. In addition, why are you therefore watching and commenting on a youtube article about their 5th album?
@@michaellupton335 And you in turn are very patronising to that comment.Many bands start with a certain sound and then go on to produce absolute shit.Whats that band now by compare....Oh Iron Maiden or Judas Priest or......Hang on Status Quo ,Rainbow.The list is endless.Marilion were big in the mid 80,s but then got lost amongst many bands at that time.Decay.
@@glennpowell3444 I was of the same mindset Glenn & dropped off when Fish left, that was until I heard Brave which just blew me away. Deserves a listen !
@squintyt4e That way of thinking by comparisons is counterproductive. Marillion is not The Beatles. Both bands are from different eras and evolved in different ways. The Beatles started with cliches - short and simple love songs with banal messages and many of those songs were covers. They were designed pretty much as an entertaining act. Later on the band members found their own individualities free from Epstein's tutelage and evolved musically and individually. Marillion on the contrary, started with 8+ minute long songs with very sophisticated lyrics full of metaphors and most of the topics were not entertaining at all. I guess somewhere here is the difference between art and simple entertainment. Marillion were more of artists. But at the end of the day everything is a matter of taste and everyone is entitles to his own opinion. I personally prefer any Marillion album with Fish to any Marillion album with Hogarth, but of course many people think differently.
No his point isn't comparing Marillion to the Beatles. The point is that Marillion have lots of great music after Script and Fugazi. Many say Clutching At Straws (with Fish) is their best album. I think Seasons End and Brave with Hogarth are wonderful. People are entitled to their opinion but I find it odd to say that the first two Marillion albums are only worth bothering with. It's perhaps understandable to prefer the Fish era over Hogarth. But I must say I think Hogarth is a fantastic singer.
Must to watch this show. In my playlist 👏👏👏👏
Marillion became Fish’s vanity project. Best thing they did was part ways and bring in Hogarth.
Genuinely interesting interveiw
I'm going to presume that in ear monitors were rare to non existant in the late 80,s also I know from experience that there is a point where extra pa just becomes a overwhelming mush
Bob Ezrin hated Marillion but produced Kansas in 1988.😀❤️🎼
My copy is on it's way 😃
After Fish left, I left Marillion. It's a shame because musically they are a great band and Rothery is one ofy favorites, but for the life of me, I can not stand how Hogarth sings... Can't explain it.
Lovely Pete!
No Fish, no Marillion. Simple as that.
I saw marillion in1989
And met em after the show and in 90
fish , the great era from marillion....sorry pete, and clutching at straws is the best album i ever hear
Ale płyta genialna :)
Well thank God they found h, that's all I can say.
Wow where abouts in reading did you come from I’m a southcote lad myself
Woodley
@@classicalbum nice part of reading had a few older friends from woodley
no começo a voz do esteve hogart era perfeita nos shows, agora ta improvisando muito nas musicas antigas, e esta perdendo a tonalidade da voz, o fish tambem não consegue cantar direito, tem cantor de rock que consegue manter sua voz nos shows, mesmo depois de velho, pelo e3nos que repeitem as musicas de sucesso do album season end, musicas lindas, mas que nos shows ficam desafinadas e fora do tom
Seasons End. No apostrophe.
This interviewer always seems to be bored, no matter what he is talking about or to whom he is speaking..
I have seen a number of his reviews and interviews and always looks like he'd rather be elsewhere.
I'm not sure about that, secretly I'm quite thrilled to be speaking to these guys.. However, in life in general, you are right... I long to be elsewhere. The poet Thoreau said 'most men lead lives of quite desperation' that's certainly me at the moment.
"Too flamboyant" ? Hogarth?? hahhaha..
Pete seems to still like fish which is nice to hear. I like the first 4 albums tbh seasons end is okay then they gone too lefties woke lyrically these last 20 years or so it's 2 different bands really.
well you dont understand them for sure
Well you've clearly never paid attention to the lyrics of either Fish or h
@@eightiesmusic1984 woke is whatever the hell they don't agree with. Usually when they are asked to care about anything other then themselves
@@mickb44 I do. Thanks Professor.
@@GeeVanderplas Comment deleted.