Pete Trewavas: 'Season's End' | Why the 'Clutching At Straws' Tour Was Awful | New Music

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  • Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
  • Marillion's Pete Trewavas speaks about the deluxe edition of 'Season's End' and why the 'Clutching at Straws' tour was so bad. Also, Steve Hogarth is a great lyricist but would have been a terrible milkman.
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    Time Stamps
    00:00 - intro
    00:19 - Auditioning vocalists
    06:59 - Music left over from Clutching @ Straws
    09:19 - Clutching at Straws tour
    12:55 - Fish 'Vigil'
    15:16 - Bob Ezrin
    17:28 - Hooks in You
    19:18 - Bowie & Eno
    20:30 - The Low Fat Yohurts
    22:35 - Easter & Forgotten Sons
    24:41 - The singles charts
    27:09 - Steve Hogarth as a milkman
    28:39 - New music

КОМЕНТАРІ • 82

  • @IsothermeMusic
    @IsothermeMusic Рік тому +20

    Love Pete. Always a good-natured, thoughtful interviewee.

  • @julian_b
    @julian_b Рік тому +21

    It’s a bit sad that he has such bad memories of it but, just for the record, Clutching At Straws is one of favourite albums.

    • @martinarnold5239
      @martinarnold5239 Рік тому +2

      but only at that time of the night

    • @RoastRat
      @RoastRat Рік тому +3

      Their best album. No bad songs. Amazing lyrics.

    • @davidjon13
      @davidjon13 7 місяців тому +2

      @@RoastRat Agree to that. Clutching is first on my list.

  • @iainholmes2735
    @iainholmes2735 8 місяців тому +8

    I loved Misplaced and Clutching. For me, that was a band at the peak of creativity. It's a testament to them that the live recordings of the songs are even better than the studio versions. Looking back, although it came as a shock to hear Fish had left, one doesn't feel shortchanged: those two albums were complete works of art - lyrics, cover design, music, and a feel for the general spirit of the age. Maybe it was time to move on.

  • @iantrott9152
    @iantrott9152 Рік тому +8

    Pete is a lovely person and an amazing musician :)

  • @MrWheeler715
    @MrWheeler715 Рік тому +7

    I met Marillion after a concert in Los Angeles in 1990. Couldn't have been nicer. I shook Ian's hand and said something about Steve Hackett Band, and he said, "Steve who?" with a nudge nudge, wink wink.

  • @robertwatt4248
    @robertwatt4248 Рік тому +5

    Very interesting interview, lots of insight into Seasons End and the transition into the H era. ! Great questions Barry!

  • @mickb44
    @mickb44 Рік тому +5

    seasons end the album that launched marillion into another dimension, great interview barry on one of my fav bands.

  • @Superbokka
    @Superbokka Рік тому +2

    Another fun interview with a thoroughly decent chap. Always enjoy your interviews.

  • @bullobca
    @bullobca Рік тому +4

    Great interview. Love Pete's work with Marillion and Transatlantic.

  • @guycore5478
    @guycore5478 Місяць тому

    I saw Marillion at The Palladium in Hollywood for Straws. There were only a hundred or so people in the audience. It was an absolutely brilliant show that felt like a private performance.

  • @alfaDude156
    @alfaDude156 Рік тому +2

    So strange to hear about the Clutching tour. I saw them in Stockholm, no warm-up act, and the concert was delayed, they said it was due to "The drummer has an upset stomach", but in the end we got a concert. The strange thing is I did not think it was that loud, the sound was crisp, sounded really good. Then I tried to talk to my friend and I realised it was really loud in the arena. I still say the sound was the best consert sound I've heard, at least during the 1900's. Really good concert memory, with all the broken strings etc.

  • @brentheathersimons7042
    @brentheathersimons7042 Рік тому +1

    One of my biggest bass heroes! 😀 Actually had an email exchange with him when the first Kino album came out. Super down to earth fellow. I enjoyed the interview!- Brent, VT USA

  • @user-ru4ct2ul5r
    @user-ru4ct2ul5r Рік тому +2

    Nice to hear Pete talking. Great video. He has restored my faith in the band.

  • @pauloneill4728
    @pauloneill4728 9 місяців тому

    I met Pete when the band I was in was supporting another band he was in. He came over and introduced himself (the rest of them ignored us). We had a lovely chat. He's a real gent.

  • @nickmurray9151
    @nickmurray9151 Рік тому +2

    Love all the guys in the band, but I really enjoy listening to Pete. Great interview!

  • @michaellupton335
    @michaellupton335 Рік тому +4

    Pete seems such a grounded chap. Great person to just sit down and have a pint with (or orange juice in Petes case!).

    • @johnreeves6286
      @johnreeves6286 Рік тому

      I’m in Aylesbury at some point most weeks and I see and say ‘hello’ (but no more) to Pete probably once every six weeks. He lives very local to Aylesbury town centre, so much so that he can (and does) simply walk into town, when he has something in town to do. He and Fiona (his wife) are as down-to-earth as it gets.

  • @MissingMars
    @MissingMars Рік тому +3

    What a stand up guy! Luv him & his band -there is no equal

  • @booshting3520
    @booshting3520 Рік тому +2

    Just got shipping notification for Seasons End Deluxe. Seems early for a May 19th release date. Anyway, looking forward to it.

  • @michaelfavreau7617
    @michaelfavreau7617 Рік тому +2

    Pete is the best. Great interview. Thanks Barry. I love your show ( sorry about the wee sentences)

  • @nevillethompson944
    @nevillethompson944 Рік тому +2

    Those who pre-ordered the Seasons End box-set I think, like myself, would get their wares before that stated date...A great interview, although we might have heard some of that somewhere before, I guess...

  • @TheUnsignedbands
    @TheUnsignedbands Рік тому +1

    Pete used to live in the next street to me in Aylesbury, Fish live 3 streets the other way. Great guys and a great band. I was at the gig when they brought Steve to Aylesbury, a fantastic show. Nettlebed has a great folk club by the way.

  • @pauldavis645
    @pauldavis645 Рік тому +1

    Cheers Barry yet another great video

  • @malcolmdaniel4462
    @malcolmdaniel4462 Рік тому +1

    Brilliant interview.

  • @Nark212
    @Nark212 Рік тому +1

    Your knocking it out of the park again, sir.. excellent 👍

  • @keverton123
    @keverton123 6 місяців тому +1

    my 1st concert was the misplaced childhood tour in 86, liverpool royal court. i saw the clutching tour in birmingham and i agree it wasn't the same in huge arenas. the band returned to liverpool after fish left, a sort of introducing steve tour but the crowd just sang all the lyrics and steve just stood there holding the mike at the crowd. met pete and mark during the interval and they signed my web magazine.

  • @maseraticc2834
    @maseraticc2834 6 місяців тому

    Pete is such a great guy - the sort I'd love to sit down in the pub and chew the Marillion fat with, except he doesn't drink.. 🤭 Marillion are a national treasure and to us their fans we feel incredibly lucky to have them. Cheers Pete, keep on rocking or being quirky!! Great interview! 🙏👍

  • @mikeainsworth4504
    @mikeainsworth4504 4 місяці тому

    Spookily, I saw my first band at Friars in Aylesbury when I was 17 or 18. That band was Marillion (on the Script tour) and I haven’t stopped listening to them.

  • @martynwedlake9273
    @martynwedlake9273 Рік тому +2

    Really enjoyed listening to that over a morning coffee. 😎👍

  • @danbrown4772
    @danbrown4772 8 місяців тому +1

    Pete is a genuinely nice chap. He's completely unguarded and relaxed

  • @ziggypop79
    @ziggypop79 Рік тому +1

    I was so disappointed the signed print for seasons end was sold out after just one week so i haven’t ordered it

  • @jdiona
    @jdiona Рік тому +1

    Must to watch this show. In my playlist 👏👏👏👏

  • @markbateman9222
    @markbateman9222 Рік тому +6

    Clutching At Straws and Season's End are my two favourite Marillion albums (like my prog with large dollops of commercialism). It could be said, however, that Clutching At Straws is Fish's best solo album!

  • @christinephilp6312
    @christinephilp6312 4 місяці тому

    I always enjoy hearing from Pete. He's insightful.

  • @bastianszjohn574
    @bastianszjohn574 Рік тому +1

    Lindisfarne, Redbone and McGuiness Flint are great underrated bands of the 70s. Any reviews on them? Hi, I'm from Sri Lanka (Ceylon)

  • @paulmcmillan5941
    @paulmcmillan5941 Рік тому

    Absolutely lovely bloke is Pete, he's full of enthusiasm and you can tell he loves what he does.

  • @RUDI-UK
    @RUDI-UK Рік тому +4

    Marillion for me will always be the first two albums and the Market Square Heroes 12"

    • @michaellupton335
      @michaellupton335 Рік тому +7

      Well you my friend are missing out on some great music since then. In addition, why are you therefore watching and commenting on a youtube article about their 5th album?

    • @glennpowell3444
      @glennpowell3444 Рік тому +3

      @@michaellupton335 And you in turn are very patronising to that comment.Many bands start with a certain sound and then go on to produce absolute shit.Whats that band now by compare....Oh Iron Maiden or Judas Priest or......Hang on Status Quo ,Rainbow.The list is endless.Marilion were big in the mid 80,s but then got lost amongst many bands at that time.Decay.

    • @robertwatt4248
      @robertwatt4248 Рік тому +1

      ​@@glennpowell3444 I was of the same mindset Glenn & dropped off when Fish left, that was until I heard Brave which just blew me away. Deserves a listen !

    • @alexandergenov
      @alexandergenov Рік тому

      @squintyt4e That way of thinking by comparisons is counterproductive. Marillion is not The Beatles. Both bands are from different eras and evolved in different ways. The Beatles started with cliches - short and simple love songs with banal messages and many of those songs were covers. They were designed pretty much as an entertaining act. Later on the band members found their own individualities free from Epstein's tutelage and evolved musically and individually. Marillion on the contrary, started with 8+ minute long songs with very sophisticated lyrics full of metaphors and most of the topics were not entertaining at all. I guess somewhere here is the difference between art and simple entertainment. Marillion were more of artists. But at the end of the day everything is a matter of taste and everyone is entitles to his own opinion. I personally prefer any Marillion album with Fish to any Marillion album with Hogarth, but of course many people think differently.

    • @jimmycampbell78
      @jimmycampbell78 Рік тому

      No his point isn't comparing Marillion to the Beatles. The point is that Marillion have lots of great music after Script and Fugazi. Many say Clutching At Straws (with Fish) is their best album. I think Seasons End and Brave with Hogarth are wonderful. People are entitled to their opinion but I find it odd to say that the first two Marillion albums are only worth bothering with. It's perhaps understandable to prefer the Fish era over Hogarth. But I must say I think Hogarth is a fantastic singer.

  • @eliottsantos2654
    @eliottsantos2654 Рік тому +7

    The fact is that apart from "Marbles", this is the only Steve Hogarth album i like. Without Fish they lost a mystique, a je ne sais quoi they've never recovered. I've really tried to like them and i've listened to most of their albums but the fact is they bore me. However, i will get the deluxe edition as I'm intrigued with the extras, outtakes, unreleased tracks etc.

    • @sheiladocherty8537
      @sheiladocherty8537 Рік тому +5

      I thought same for many years, but then I invested some time in really listening to them and they just kinda crept into my soul

    • @DagWillyFindalFossmo
      @DagWillyFindalFossmo Рік тому

      @@sheiladocherty8537 Been trying to get there for some time as well. Trying again with Brave. What music worked for you ?

    • @sheiladocherty8537
      @sheiladocherty8537 Рік тому +4

      Brave took me the longest to like but now I love it. I think Afraid of Sunlight, Anoraknophobia and Sounds That Can't be Made are brilliant. I also love FEAR. This Strange Engine took a while with me esp title track, but now a favourite 😁

  • @andyshelton4889
    @andyshelton4889 6 місяців тому

    Bob Ezrin hated Marillion but produced Kansas in 1988.😀❤️🎼

  • @michellebell5092
    @michellebell5092 Рік тому +1

    I admit to being worried when Fish left , but then heard Hooks in You, and suddenly all seemed fine , and the rest is history. I still love Marilllon , the best band prog or otherwise, but Hooks in you is in my top five tracks. I love the meaty mix version, just a fabulous go to song Along with Neverland and now Be hard on your self .
    Great interview, thanks CRR.

    • @theaudiosenseinl
      @theaudiosenseinl 10 місяців тому +2

      I never got into Steve Hogarth. I tried on several albums but his way of singing is so flat, uninspiring and lacks the dynamics, mystique and range that Fish had. Also the music of Marillion changed when Steve Hogarth became the singer. So my Marillion journey ended when Fish went solo. And i have been listening to Fish after that.

    • @jeffbauer3425
      @jeffbauer3425 6 місяців тому

      Agreed ​@@theaudiosenseinl

    • @fabio5995
      @fabio5995 6 місяців тому

      Me too😢

  • @sheiladocherty8537
    @sheiladocherty8537 Рік тому +1

    My copy is on it's way 😃

  • @JESTERFISH1
    @JESTERFISH1 Рік тому

    Genuinely interesting interveiw
    I'm going to presume that in ear monitors were rare to non existant in the late 80,s also I know from experience that there is a point where extra pa just becomes a overwhelming mush

  • @moyaterry8493
    @moyaterry8493 5 місяців тому +1

    Lovely Pete!

  • @jasonjones8178
    @jasonjones8178 Рік тому

    I saw marillion in1989
    And met em after the show and in 90

  • @antoniocarlosmoreira3780
    @antoniocarlosmoreira3780 11 місяців тому +1

    no começo a voz do esteve hogart era perfeita nos shows, agora ta improvisando muito nas musicas antigas, e esta perdendo a tonalidade da voz, o fish tambem não consegue cantar direito, tem cantor de rock que consegue manter sua voz nos shows, mesmo depois de velho, pelo e3nos que repeitem as musicas de sucesso do album season end, musicas lindas, mas que nos shows ficam desafinadas e fora do tom

  • @delSee
    @delSee Рік тому +8

    Enjoyed this but it’s a pity the interviewer is more interested in his next question than actually listening to what Pete is saying and exploring that. Poor interviewing technique. After long and interesting answers he says things like ‘good!’ Please listen better.

  • @michaelmclaughlin6376
    @michaelmclaughlin6376 2 місяці тому

    Well thank God they found h, that's all I can say.

  • @pauldavis645
    @pauldavis645 Рік тому +1

    Wow where abouts in reading did you come from I’m a southcote lad myself

    • @classicalbum
      @classicalbum  Рік тому +1

      Woodley

    • @pauldavis645
      @pauldavis645 Рік тому

      @@classicalbum nice part of reading had a few older friends from woodley

  • @Disciple_Of_Lerxst
    @Disciple_Of_Lerxst 2 дні тому

    After Fish left, I left Marillion. It's a shame because musically they are a great band and Rothery is one ofy favorites, but for the life of me, I can not stand how Hogarth sings... Can't explain it.

  • @nunomendes4645
    @nunomendes4645 4 місяці тому

    fish , the great era from marillion....sorry pete, and clutching at straws is the best album i ever hear

  • @Miadolph427
    @Miadolph427 26 днів тому +1

    No Fish, no Marillion. Simple as that.

  • @danbrown4772
    @danbrown4772 8 місяців тому +1

    "Too flamboyant" ? Hogarth?? hahhaha..

  • @richharding7927
    @richharding7927 9 місяців тому

    Seasons End. No apostrophe.

  • @nicholasfox2729
    @nicholasfox2729 Рік тому +1

    This interviewer always seems to be bored, no matter what he is talking about or to whom he is speaking..
    I have seen a number of his reviews and interviews and always looks like he'd rather be elsewhere.

    • @classicalbum
      @classicalbum  Рік тому

      I'm not sure about that, secretly I'm quite thrilled to be speaking to these guys.. However, in life in general, you are right... I long to be elsewhere. The poet Thoreau said 'most men lead lives of quite desperation' that's certainly me at the moment.

  • @bucephalas67
    @bucephalas67 Рік тому +1

    Pete seems to still like fish which is nice to hear. I like the first 4 albums tbh seasons end is okay then they gone too lefties woke lyrically these last 20 years or so it's 2 different bands really.

    • @mickb44
      @mickb44 Рік тому +3

      well you dont understand them for sure

    • @GeeVanderplas
      @GeeVanderplas Рік тому +4

      Well you've clearly never paid attention to the lyrics of either Fish or h

    • @GeeVanderplas
      @GeeVanderplas Рік тому +4

      ​@@eightiesmusic1984 woke is whatever the hell they don't agree with. Usually when they are asked to care about anything other then themselves

    • @eightiesmusic1984
      @eightiesmusic1984 Рік тому

      @@mickb44 I do. Thanks Professor.

    • @eightiesmusic1984
      @eightiesmusic1984 Рік тому

      @@GeeVanderplas Comment deleted.