I would take the makita.. doesn't overheat. Most refined and feels the best in hand. Might be a bit slower but it gets the job done without going up in smoke or loosing bits at the collet.
The thing is - what is the point of an expensive 40V Makita kit with twice the price of a 18v Makita and much heavier with that battery - when the power is similar...?
@@sizif717 Regarding Makita impact drivers, you are right. I'm happy with my 18V driver and I'll be sticking with it. It does everything I ask of it, hence I see no reason to upgrade any time soon.
I live in Saitama an nearly all tradesmen here use Makita. I lived in Australia for 4yr roughly 20yrs ago and even there half the guys had Makita gear (because they last. Straight from the horses mouth) I’d take Makita over anything.
I’m using the M18 at the moment, absolutely best impact driver on market. No 36 and 40 V nonsense, good old 18V platform, good size, good battery life, quality materials and MONSTROUS power. Love it !!!
Even though Makita were the lowest on points in this, it drove all of the screws it should be doing, had the best cooling ( which is huge for me ) and had decent battery life.
@Tools & Stuff. Thanks for the test of these impact drivers. I guess your Milwaukee GEN3 wanted to show us it has no loose collet issue. It'll snap off your bit and keep it. So let us know whether you were able to get that broken part out of the Milwaukee collet and how easy was it to do so. Yes, speed is not always important. When I bought my first drill driver it was a Black and Decker 7.2V Professional (NiCads). While it was able to drive 6 inch galvanized deck screws for tying 4x4 pressure treateds for raised beds, the drill motor did begin to smell a bit. The 12V and 14.4V Dewalts had easier times. Now I'm into 18Vs and the Makitas have no problems with anything I use it for. Hope you and your family stay safe and well.
I picked up the Hikoki mainly as a cheap way to buy two batteries for their sawzall, as that was the only locally available kit at the time. But using it for steel stud framing, it's pretty nice and easily keeping up with the higher RPM Makita XGT and Flex "quick eject" in tasks where generally, the higher the RPM the better the performance. I can't speak on the gen 3 fuel, as I've got a gen 2 that still kicks ass. Plus, as a bonus, the Hikoki fits my impact holster much, much better than the XGT or Flex Big Chungus.
Milwaukee is a beast. I'm $2k into cordless Makita tools, so I'm ride or die with Makita. But if I wasn't, if I was just starting to invest in cordless tools, I'd buy Milwaukee.
I had a really old pair of Ryobi blue and yellow impact driver and drill that I wanted to replace and I thought I'd go with Milwaukee because it would last me a while. M18 Fuel was expensive so after some research I bought the M12 Fuel impact driver and drill set and I really like it. I thought it might be a little underpowered compared to the 18V, but nope it has more than enough power for the home projects I use it for. Didn't think 12V would have that much power, but I guess 12V tools have advanced alot since I last went shopping for power tools. 🤣 🤣
I have a 4 year old Makita that feels good in the hand and doesn't seem to get hot no matter how much I use it. Got a friend with Big Red and they always seem hot.
TIM from Canada let me clarify a few things for you right here on this video. Impacts are made for putting in screws or tightening up bolts this is the main objective of an impact if you were using it to drill holes with a spade bit this is now another project and a drill is more suited for this project.. when you were doing tests and an impact loses out because you were using it to use a spade bit to drill in Hols you were going to lose power on this. ( impacts are made for putting in screws tightening up bolts). So when the impact loses on this test by using a spade but then this is not the project for the tool )
I use an impact for drilling all the time. Smaller, lighter, faster bit changes, no kickback. Brilliant for awkward spots where you can't get 2 hands. It also means I only have to take one tool with me when I need to drill and fasten. Granted I'm mostly drilling
The whole video was driving screws and lag screws. The only portion drilling holes was the 1.5 seconds preview at the start, so you must've stopped the video immediately after it began to play. With that said, impact drivers are great for paddle bits and other drill bits.
Fantastic video. Your channel will slowly get larger as you are putting a serious amount of effort and presumably money into it should Makita and other brands not yet be sending you review units. Thumbs up, the Makita coverage is seriously appreciated!!
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL think of some videos that will not only get looked at by your subscribers but that may go viral and get shared on recommended video tabs on youtube. You will get there it will just take time.... Concord carpenter/toolbox buzz in the US are another tool related channel setting high standards for tool reviews and videos alike... All the best, if you are in AUS try reaching out to Makita for review units?! I know Scott Brown has recently started getting review units from the NZ makita division. Hope that helps....
@@shifty277 I'm not in Australia. I live in the same city as Scott. I like not getting free tools from the big guys. It means I can say whatever I want without feeling beholden to a tool company who ''might not give me free tools if I say something nasty." I don't want to end up like all the arse licking Milwaukee reviewers.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL true about your fears of the reviewing anxiety and being honest anout negatives on a tool... Fortunately for people that are keen on the Makita platform there are very few out and out dud tools that you would be sent for review and have to absooutely slate... There nailers both 1st and 2nd fix would fall in to this category. Apologies for mixing AUS and NZ if thats offensive but its so hard to distinguish (for me anyway) just off accent. Ive found most of my Makita tools are great but when they are exceptional they are also expensive. The 18v x 2 305mm mitre saw is exceptional but also expensive.
Milwaukee drills are hard to beat when they are brand new. I still would prefer a dewalt long term. They hold up better imo and I have used both pretty heavily.
those 300 m12s was a good example of the 3 tools with good built in protection vs the desalt that is notorious for catching fire. I run both Makita and Milwaukee I like them both Makita has the more sensitive trigger on drills and impacts. Both have great power and longevity Milwaukee has more power when I need it,
Sorry, still rocking the makita. It will far outlast the rest of them and didn't make screws look like they had an exorcism performed on them, didn't snap any bits, and didn't get hot enough to cook breakfast on.
That is kind of exactly how I expected this to go. I think all brands did well especially when you think about how far we have come from the ni-cad days
donkey ass reviews and do's how are the slower, less powerful tools for pros? Are they for the people who are paid by that hour and not per job so they don’t care how long it takes for a tool to complete its job?
@@brynnond.6952 Those 'Faster' drills suffer from thermal throttling, over heating excess power draw and wastage. The Makita 40V, hikoki 36V etc are built with chips designed to metigate these short falls and protect the user. Punching in 50 screws with great speed and power is great but when you got 500 more to go. The load is to much. A work horse over a race horse. Other than that, They're all still great drills.
M18 here, shed builder, daily thousand tek screws, 2 years now, with all kinds of battery (genuine, 3rd, trashed, selfbuilt), no drama, I do maintenance once or twice every year, other than stupid things, i push it to the limit.
From the experience with Hikoki (WH36DB), Impact Rate Mode must be chosen depending on what you want to do: drill, loosen a screw, tighten, etc... it behaves totally differently. The Milwaukee model also has a 10% higher torque than the Hikoki, but from the results it seems that the performance is still much higher! Maybe the new WH36DC is better :)
After buying the excellent Hikoki 18V nail guns, I was considering a Hikoki impact driver, since I have three fresh 18/36 Volt batteries available much of the time. After this review, I will give that idea a miss and stick with my Makita's. Thanks for the helpful review.
The Hikoki Triple Hammer has replaced my Makita and Milwaukee for driving in regular fasteners-but just drives more consistently and feels better in hands Impact drivers aren't the best for large fasteners and lag bolts
Of course these are "POWER TESTS" but in 1st step a tool which breaks its Socket Adapter, in 2nd step a tool which Overheats, in 3rd step a tool which destroys Screw Heads. My choice is MAKITA 😘
Tim from Canada if you were going to buy Milwaukee impact driver do use a spade bit on wood this will always lose out because this is not what the Milwaukee is made for impacting screws and nuts this is what the impact is made for if you were going to use it for other things than this will be A slower process for the tool
Not a great look when the brand new Makita 40v that essentially means needing to move over to an entirely new tool and battery system doesn't perform as well as drivers that are a few years older and therefore "behind" in tech, and are only 18v
You fail to see the point of the 40V range. Its not about ' more power '. Cordless tools have enough power to get the job done. What Cordless do not have is the longevity compared to corded tools. Low voltage cordless tools heat up too much under intensive use and will break down/burn out/ shorten the lfiespan of batteries because of the heat. By upping your voltage you prevent this. As The creater of this movie said, the Makita and the Hikoki stayed the most cool. they're the higher voltage tools. For 'most' tradies this wont matter. they do not use theirs tools intensively enough ( yet )? For some trades a more durable tool that doesnt break down/ shutdown because of overheating is what they need. These big industrial customers honestly dont give a shit about ' buying new batteries' . they just want the best tool for the job. The one that wont give them downtime because of batteries/tools shutting dwn because of heat / breaking down. Thats the whole reason for a higher voltage.
Eric what the video does not show you about the Makita is its control, the Makita has alot of control and feel to it which is great for doing fragile screws etc whilst still able to do the big stuff, the Milwaukee is fast but it literally does feel like bashing a chisel with a hammer, the control is just not the same
@@dominicvanlievenoogen6407 well explained for the people that didnt know. 21700 batteries and higher voltage is the future of cordless tools. The makita 40v platform has its place in the future, it just doesnt warrant selling a complete 18v Dewalt/Makita/Milwuaker platform to buy the 40b stuff.... More voltage and less amperage is always better for the batteries and motors long term...
@@shifty277 Why would you sell the old 18v system? This is the comment I see allot and don't understand, you don't need to sell the old system. Keep both
Couldn't believe my luck when I found your video! I currently have AEG's and Dewalts and because something has stuffed up in my AEG 18V brushless drill after I used it to crank my lawnmower and it caught my hand, I need to replace it. Found a great deal coming up for the Dewalt but there's also the same deal for the Hikoki. Not knowing anything about Hikoki/Hitachi tools, this video was just what I needed so I could stick with Dewalt. I could never afford Milwaukee and there's no way I could tolerate a slow tool like the Makita even though I'm just a handy(wo)man. I LOVE my AEG's. My other Dewalts are 54V so it'll interesting to see how the 18V impact driver stacks up against the 18V AEG impact driver.
I run dewalt and tend to buy most things on their platform... they’re all decent all rounders though, I’ve used loads of makita and never had a problem, and I must admit I have hikoki nail guns as the dewalt ones are pretty 💩... wouldn’t ever pay that much money for something red that does the same job though... at the end of the day it comes down to colour preference 😂
Hi, thanks for the great video. I'd like to give a suggestion for these impact driver comparison tests, because i like to watch them :) and it is something I've never seen done in any other comparison videos like these. I do signage and cladding work for living and use an impact driver in almost every single job and probably %90 of the time i use an impact driver at work to use self tapping screws with metal framing and metal sheets. Many of our job requires to work in really tight spaces and on top of the cranes etc. and because of that often times i need to rely on my impact driver alone. So no drill drivers to drill pilot holes for 1000 or so screws i need to screw. In my opinion using these machines in jobs like these really shows the true capability of them, more than trying to drive 300 mm lag bolt to a log. ( i mean in reality i would've just use a impact wrench for that job, no one in right mind would use an impact driver. ) So my suggestion is this try get a rectangular tube profile with 2 or 3mm wall thickness, and stack 2 of them on top of each other. Then try to use long self tapping roofing screws to bind them to each other. Trust me it takes a lot of effort to do it right. First you need to start slow then when you penetrate the first wall you speed up. The thing is, driver quality really makes the difference in these jobs, not the power alone. Anyway, i hope to see you actually try these. if you don't, its cool too :) i just wanted to share it, since i rarely ever seen them done in tests.
Power really is a bit lackluster on that new 40V Makita. On the other hand, I'd rather have to drive a screw for longer than have my tool become so hot I'm worried about it damaging itself (plus the wobble on that DeWalt is just insane). The Hikoki is just weird, feels like a cheap Chinese thing that's just inconsistent. Milwaukee, well, it's just good, but that's no surprise really.
Anyway, I like makita more, breaks everything, repair the makita cheaper and you can yourself, that makita is not the fastest - it is also for me not the main, the rush is needed when catching flies and the eble of someone else's wife! Russian humor! Thanks for the review! Makita 🔥🔥🔥
Wow! Awesome video mate! 😉 surprising results!? I really believe you did a very fair, thorough, and unbiased test. Even though the ole Mak came in last, and I heard your sigh of discontent, I would venture it will still be going when the DeWalt has ‘torched’ itself, and the Milwaukee has stopped due to the electronics, or collet, or something? I believe I have made a comment before on the 18 volt version of the Hikoki/ Metabo/ Hitachi triple hammer, and I think it would be good for certain type of specialty fasteners, of maybe metal to wood, and in the use of smaller screws? I could not find any love for the triple hammer either. Great video, and I DO like the split screen views. Cheers! 👍😁
Love the vid, been looking everywhere for a comparison against the milwaukee gen 3 and making 40v. Also that dewalt has a 54v battery, so its an unfair advantage when they're more closely compare the a milwaukee high output battery. The Gen3 would take 28 points for sure. Cheers mate keep it up
Best way to get that but out is if you can grab it with pliers get a hold of it and run the impact in reverse if you can get a good grip on it and it impacts in reverse you should be able to pull the collet forward and drop it out. If you cant get a grip on it you gotta take a punch and that fits in the collet and beat on it with a hammer and shock the bit loose then pull the collet forward and it should come out this happens allot to me at work and I got pretty good at getting them out sometimes you really have to hammer on them which probably isn't great for the tool but it beats disassembly
I’ve never seen a Makita that color before. I also want to add that Hikoki is now Metabo. A lot of people are saying they’re great tools. I don’t know first hand, but they have a great warranty.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL The HPT are supposedly really good and they have a great warranty. I wish I could find a good deal on the 1/2” impact because it’s supposedly one of the best.
I’d say deWalt is the biggest loser since the bit fell out of the chuck twice that I saw. Imagine if you were working up above people and the bit and socket hit someone on the head or damaged a floor etc.
This is off topic, but maybe you know the answer. I recently heard that Chervon, who makes Kobalt and Flex also makes parts for other brands. Is that true?
I use a milwaukee surge. Their hydraulic has some drawbacks, but it is stronger than the makita hydraulic that I also own. Once I got use to it, I think the hydraulic impacts are best. Quieter, strong, steady torque. I broke a bunch of screws when I first started using it though. 😂
@@J.Wick. 100% I use my hydraulic for everything and only need to use the impact wrench for large nuts. I wish more manufacturers would do hydraulic but everyone goes for the bigger numbers. The Milwaukee (2016) and Makita (2015) oil impacts are several years old now without an update, I hope they don't drop them.
@@jimbob1321 me too.. That would be a real shame.. alot of folks just don't understand them, and only see the side of the box that the number there is way lower than the standard one, plus it's more expensive. You have to use it to appreciate it. I use the M12 Surge, and it sure feels alotttt stronger than 400in lbs... Lol
@@J.Wick. I recently bought the M12 Surge myself and absolutely love it. Plenty of power and quiet. It does 95% of my tasks, if I need to drive bigger lags/bolts i'll use my M12 Stubby which surprisingly drove an 1/2" x 8" Spax into Treated lumber. Absolutely love the M12 line.
After all they are a very good impact driver just depend how u use them for. Dewalt one is the cheapest one under $100 AUD, MILWAUKEE $150 AUD, Makita $200 AUD.
I have a question for you. Amazon has the mid torque Metabo with two batteries, a charger and a case for $399. The same set is $839 at Lowe’s. How can Amazon sell it for less than half of the price at Lowe’s?
If you're considering a rematch with all four of the new flagship models, all you really need is the Milwaukee gen 4. The DCF850 is really the best DeWalt you're going to get in New Zealand any time soon. The current heavy hitter from DeWalt is the DCF840, but that's a Lowe's exclusive for the most part and, ironically, the flagship DCF845 brings less heat than the budget model. Other than that new Milwaukee, you're all set.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Disregard the specs. I own it and it's a sleeper. Trust me. It's also very pleasant to use. If you want it, I'd recommend it just to have for yourself.
Don't worry their gen2 36v triple hammer is on the way. More torque, more speed & smaller housing. It's getting released in Japan this month, hopefully next year we'll be getting it
I have purchased all these tools and for the most part they're all good, but all of them have their weak points and strong points. I like longevity and reliability.
The Hikoki is running the smallest battery of them 2.5ah. Makita 4.0ah and the other 2 6.0ah. It's like doing a dyno test with cars running u91 and u98. So this is not an even test. Still good to watch though
No idea if it’s relevant but the hikoki is supposed to change the way it hammers in power mode, maybe some harmonic thing happening with the stainless screws when it changes modes perhaps???
What’s funny is he wasn’t even using a high output battery on that Milwaukee which is what the “fuels” were designed to run. He was using an obsolete battery and it was still more powerful and faster than the others.
In the video I see that you put more pressure in the Milwaukee drill than the rest of them, that is wy the Milwaukee looks more faster, and maybe is a little bit more faster but not so much like,you make we see in the video.
You should send the Makita in for a warranty. According to their specs. it should blow away their own 18volts driver, but this seems to be weaker than that.
No it is more powerful than the 18v, I have already done a review on that of course. But not much better. Makita only claim the 40v is "around 10% faster" than the DTD171 (DT171D, XDT16)
love the split screen where the drivers come into view after a few seconds of screwing.
I would take the makita.. doesn't overheat. Most refined and feels the best in hand. Might be a bit slower but it gets the job done without going up in smoke or loosing bits at the collet.
I’m with you!
I'm with you also.
The thing is - what is the point of an expensive 40V Makita kit with twice the price of a 18v Makita and much heavier with that battery - when the power is similar...?
@@sizif717 Regarding Makita impact drivers, you are right. I'm happy with my 18V driver and I'll be sticking with it. It does everything I ask of it, hence I see no reason to upgrade any time soon.
I live in Saitama an nearly all tradesmen here use Makita.
I lived in Australia for 4yr roughly 20yrs ago and even there half the guys had Makita gear (because they last. Straight from the horses mouth) I’d take Makita over anything.
I’m using the M18 at the moment, absolutely best impact driver on market. No 36 and 40 V nonsense, good old 18V platform, good size, good battery life, quality materials and MONSTROUS power. Love it !!!
Same here. best impact ever
Agreed💪💯🙏
Even though Makita were the lowest on points in this, it drove all of the screws it should be doing, had the best cooling ( which is huge for me ) and had decent battery life.
and didn't break ;)
Well for that price tho it should be the best tbh
It probably still is the best or at least equal if we're talking all around. This test is pretty power based.
That only of the impacts that Makita makes. I’m sure that wasn’t their top of the line.
Yes it was their top of the line
@Tools & Stuff. Thanks for the test of these impact drivers. I guess your Milwaukee GEN3 wanted to show us it has no loose collet issue. It'll snap off your bit and keep it. So let us know whether you were able to get that broken part out of the Milwaukee collet and how easy was it to do so.
Yes, speed is not always important. When I bought my first drill driver it was a Black and Decker 7.2V Professional (NiCads). While it was able to drive 6 inch galvanized deck screws for tying 4x4 pressure treateds for raised beds, the drill motor did begin to smell a bit. The 12V and 14.4V Dewalts had easier times. Now I'm into 18Vs and the Makitas have no problems with anything I use it for.
Hope you and your family stay safe and well.
I got it out! Video soon...
4:39 DeWalt 'I will do it,i will do it.'
I picked up the Hikoki mainly as a cheap way to buy two batteries for their sawzall, as that was the only locally available kit at the time. But using it for steel stud framing, it's pretty nice and easily keeping up with the higher RPM Makita XGT and Flex "quick eject" in tasks where generally, the higher the RPM the better the performance. I can't speak on the gen 3 fuel, as I've got a gen 2 that still kicks ass.
Plus, as a bonus, the Hikoki fits my impact holster much, much better than the XGT or Flex Big Chungus.
Woow, amazing job man, only test on real life, not that's blabla videos. Congratulation. 👌🏿
Milwaukee is a beast. I'm $2k into cordless Makita tools, so I'm ride or die with Makita. But if I wasn't, if I was just starting to invest in cordless tools, I'd buy Milwaukee.
2K... You've only just begun...
I started with Makita too but I use both brands now.
I had a really old pair of Ryobi blue and yellow impact driver and drill that I wanted to replace and I thought I'd go with Milwaukee because it would last me a while. M18 Fuel was expensive so after some research I bought the M12 Fuel impact driver and drill set and I really like it. I thought it might be a little underpowered compared to the 18V, but nope it has more than enough power for the home projects I use it for. Didn't think 12V would have that much power, but I guess 12V tools have advanced alot since I last went shopping for power tools. 🤣 🤣
I’ve actually had a heap of both brands. I like Makita personally.
At the end of the day they are all excellent!
I have a 4 year old Makita that feels good in the hand and doesn't seem to get hot no matter how much I use it. Got a friend with Big Red and they always seem hot.
TIM from Canada let me clarify a few things for you right here on this video. Impacts are made for putting in screws or tightening up bolts this is the main objective of an impact if you were using it to drill holes with a spade bit this is now another project and a drill is more suited for this project.. when you were doing tests and an impact loses out because you were using it to use a spade bit to drill in Hols you were going to lose power on this. ( impacts are made for putting in screws tightening up bolts). So when the impact loses on this test by using a spade but then this is not the project for the tool )
I use an impact for drilling all the time. Smaller, lighter, faster bit changes, no kickback. Brilliant for awkward spots where you can't get 2 hands. It also means I only have to take one tool with me when I need to drill and fasten. Granted I'm mostly drilling
The whole video was driving screws and lag screws. The only portion drilling holes was the 1.5 seconds preview at the start, so you must've stopped the video immediately after it began to play.
With that said, impact drivers are great for paddle bits and other drill bits.
Fantastic video. Your channel will slowly get larger as you are putting a serious amount of effort and presumably money into it should Makita and other brands not yet be sending you review units.
Thumbs up, the Makita coverage is seriously appreciated!!
Cheers. I pay for these tools myself. Getting pretty pricey now. Another 100k subs would help pay for things.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL think of some videos that will not only get looked at by your subscribers but that may go viral and get shared on recommended video tabs on youtube.
You will get there it will just take time.... Concord carpenter/toolbox buzz in the US are another tool related channel setting high standards for tool reviews and videos alike...
All the best, if you are in AUS try reaching out to Makita for review units?! I know Scott Brown has recently started getting review units from the NZ makita division.
Hope that helps....
@@shifty277 I'm not in Australia. I live in the same city as Scott. I like not getting free tools from the big guys. It means I can say whatever I want without feeling beholden to a tool company who ''might not give me free tools if I say something nasty." I don't want to end up like all the arse licking Milwaukee reviewers.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL true about your fears of the reviewing anxiety and being honest anout negatives on a tool...
Fortunately for people that are keen on the Makita platform there are very few out and out dud tools that you would be sent for review and have to absooutely slate... There nailers both 1st and 2nd fix would fall in to this category.
Apologies for mixing AUS and NZ if thats offensive but its so hard to distinguish (for me anyway) just off accent.
Ive found most of my Makita tools are great but when they are exceptional they are also expensive.
The 18v x 2 305mm mitre saw is exceptional but also expensive.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL And that's all to your Credit.
Milwaukee drills are hard to beat when they are brand new. I still would prefer a dewalt long term. They hold up better imo and I have used both pretty heavily.
those 300 m12s was a good example of the 3 tools with good built in protection vs the desalt that is notorious for catching fire. I run both Makita and Milwaukee I like them both Makita has the more sensitive trigger on drills and impacts. Both have great power and longevity Milwaukee has more power when I need it,
Another great vid mate. Cheers for the laughs.
Sorry, still rocking the makita. It will far outlast the rest of them and didn't make screws look like they had an exorcism performed on them, didn't snap any bits, and didn't get hot enough to cook breakfast on.
The Hikoki really knows how to make screws dance
But not too bad
That is kind of exactly how I expected this to go. I think all brands did well especially when you think about how far we have come from the ni-cad days
The Milwaukee has insane speed but lacks stamina in some of the tests while the dewalt goes until it blows lol
donkey ass reviews and do's how are the slower, less powerful tools for pros? Are they for the people who are paid by that hour and not per job so they don’t care how long it takes for a tool to complete its job?
Milwaukee vs Dewalt very bad 👎# Makita number 👍
@@brynnond.6952 Those 'Faster' drills suffer from thermal throttling, over heating excess power draw and wastage. The Makita 40V, hikoki 36V etc are built with chips designed to metigate these short falls and protect the user.
Punching in 50 screws with great speed and power is great but when you got 500 more to go. The load is to much.
A work horse over a race horse.
Other than that, They're all still great drills.
@@NNAT2477 true Milwaukee and DEWALT don’t last long compared too makita.
Have the milwaukee and a 18v brushless Makita. Love the milwaukee
I mainly own dewalt. Actually can’t believe it did so well on your test. Flexvolt must wake the tool up, and who knows till the smoke comes out...
Kick ass. Makita for life. And more stabila pls
Your test made it easy to pick one. I am purchasing a Milwaukee. Thanks
Idk how it will hold up long term, but I love my Milwaukee gen 3... thing rips
@@nortons4673 make sure you get the green 3.5 with the 2 ball bearings. You gotta check emm when you buy it so the bits don't come out.
M18 here, shed builder, daily thousand tek screws, 2 years now, with all kinds of battery (genuine, 3rd, trashed, selfbuilt), no drama, I do maintenance once or twice every year, other than stupid things, i push it to the limit.
Careful running the 887 with the flexvolt. It tends to smoke out.
From the experience with Hikoki (WH36DB), Impact Rate Mode must be chosen depending on what you want to do: drill, loosen a screw, tighten, etc... it behaves totally differently. The Milwaukee model also has a 10% higher torque than the Hikoki, but from the results it seems that the performance is still much higher!
Maybe the new WH36DC is better :)
After buying the excellent Hikoki 18V nail guns, I was considering a Hikoki impact driver, since I have three fresh 18/36 Volt batteries available much of the time. After this review, I will give that idea a miss and stick with my Makita's. Thanks for the helpful review.
The Hikoki Triple Hammer has replaced my Makita and Milwaukee for driving in regular fasteners-but just drives more consistently and feels better in hands
Impact drivers aren't the best for large fasteners and lag bolts
I’m in this exact situation 3 years later and I’ve come to the same conclusion I’m gonna stick with my Makita😂
Of course these are "POWER TESTS" but in 1st step a tool which breaks its Socket Adapter, in 2nd step a tool which Overheats, in 3rd step a tool which destroys Screw Heads. My choice is MAKITA 😘
Great stuff thanks Could you please test( urbauer tools ) especially The impact driver and combo drills ect 👍🍀
@Tools & Stuff nice
straight to the point video (review) !
good job body
keep up the good work
I’d take the Dewalt. It does get warm, but they feel great in the hand.
Tim from Canada if you were going to buy Milwaukee impact driver do use a spade bit on wood this will always lose out because this is not what the Milwaukee is made for impacting screws and nuts this is what the impact is made for if you were going to use it for other things than this will be A slower process for the tool
Not a great look when the brand new Makita 40v that essentially means needing to move over to an entirely new tool and battery system doesn't perform as well as drivers that are a few years older and therefore "behind" in tech, and are only 18v
The features of the makita are way better. Also the makita will last the longest out of these which is a huge selling point for tradesmen.
You fail to see the point of the 40V range. Its not about ' more power '. Cordless tools have enough power to get the job done. What Cordless do not have is the longevity compared to corded tools. Low voltage cordless tools heat up too much under intensive use and will break down/burn out/ shorten the lfiespan of batteries because of the heat. By upping your voltage you prevent this. As The creater of this movie said, the Makita and the Hikoki stayed the most cool. they're the higher voltage tools.
For 'most' tradies this wont matter. they do not use theirs tools intensively enough ( yet )? For some trades a more durable tool that doesnt break down/ shutdown because of overheating is what they need. These big industrial customers honestly dont give a shit about ' buying new batteries' . they just want the best tool for the job. The one that wont give them downtime because of batteries/tools shutting dwn because of heat / breaking down.
Thats the whole reason for a higher voltage.
Eric what the video does not show you about the Makita is its control, the Makita has alot of control and feel to it which is great for doing fragile screws etc whilst still able to do the big stuff, the Milwaukee is fast but it literally does feel like bashing a chisel with a hammer, the control is just not the same
@@dominicvanlievenoogen6407 well explained for the people that didnt know.
21700 batteries and higher voltage is the future of cordless tools.
The makita 40v platform has its place in the future, it just doesnt warrant selling a complete 18v Dewalt/Makita/Milwuaker platform to buy the 40b stuff....
More voltage and less amperage is always better for the batteries and motors long term...
@@shifty277 Why would you sell the old 18v system? This is the comment I see allot and don't understand, you don't need to sell the old system. Keep both
Couldn't believe my luck when I found your video! I currently have AEG's and Dewalts and because something has stuffed up in my AEG 18V brushless drill after I used it to crank my lawnmower and it caught my hand, I need to replace it. Found a great deal coming up for the Dewalt but there's also the same deal for the Hikoki. Not knowing anything about Hikoki/Hitachi tools, this video was just what I needed so I could stick with Dewalt. I could never afford Milwaukee and there's no way I could tolerate a slow tool like the Makita even though I'm just a handy(wo)man. I LOVE my AEG's. My other Dewalts are 54V so it'll interesting to see how the 18V impact driver stacks up against the 18V AEG impact driver.
I run dewalt and tend to buy most things on their platform... they’re all decent all rounders though, I’ve used loads of makita and never had a problem, and I must admit I have hikoki nail guns as the dewalt ones are pretty 💩... wouldn’t ever pay that much money for something red that does the same job though... at the end of the day it comes down to colour preference 😂
Hi, thanks for the great video.
I'd like to give a suggestion for these impact driver comparison tests, because i like to watch them :) and it is something I've never seen done in any other comparison videos like these. I do signage and cladding work for living and use an impact driver in almost every single job and probably %90 of the time i use an impact driver at work to use self tapping screws with metal framing and metal sheets. Many of our job requires to work in really tight spaces and on top of the cranes etc. and because of that often times i need to rely on my impact driver alone. So no drill drivers to drill pilot holes for 1000 or so screws i need to screw. In my opinion using these machines in jobs like these really shows the true capability of them, more than trying to drive 300 mm lag bolt to a log. ( i mean in reality i would've just use a impact wrench for that job, no one in right mind would use an impact driver. )
So my suggestion is this try get a rectangular tube profile with 2 or 3mm wall thickness, and stack 2 of them on top of each other. Then try to use long self tapping roofing screws to bind them to each other. Trust me it takes a lot of effort to do it right. First you need to start slow then when you penetrate the first wall you speed up. The thing is, driver quality really makes the difference in these jobs, not the power alone.
Anyway, i hope to see you actually try these. if you don't, its cool too :) i just wanted to share it, since i rarely ever seen them done in tests.
Awesome test!
Power really is a bit lackluster on that new 40V Makita. On the other hand, I'd rather have to drive a screw for longer than have my tool become so hot I'm worried about it damaging itself (plus the wobble on that DeWalt is just insane). The Hikoki is just weird, feels like a cheap Chinese thing that's just inconsistent. Milwaukee, well, it's just good, but that's no surprise really.
I saw a video of the makita removing a 350ft/lb lug nut! Very impressive
Chuck wobble would be nice to compare. REALLY bugs me when the chuck wobbles a lot like the dewalt.
Festool will win, they have no wobble.
I love and love the battery series ... very cool ... 👍👍👍👍👍
It looks like the Hikoki had some unwanted axial impact motion that bent the long screws at 6:49.
Is the HITACHI 18v triple hammer lighter and as powerful as the Japan td172d? Thanks in advance, great video.
Anyway, I like makita more, breaks everything, repair the makita cheaper and you can yourself, that makita is not the fastest - it is also for me not the main, the rush is needed when catching flies and the eble of someone else's wife! Russian humor! Thanks for the review! Makita 🔥🔥🔥
Wow! Awesome video mate! 😉 surprising results!? I really believe you did a very fair, thorough, and unbiased test. Even though the ole Mak came in last, and I heard your sigh of discontent, I would venture it will still be going when the DeWalt has ‘torched’ itself, and the Milwaukee has stopped due to the electronics, or collet, or something? I believe I have made a comment before on the 18 volt version of the Hikoki/ Metabo/ Hitachi triple hammer, and I think it would be good for certain type of specialty fasteners, of maybe metal to wood, and in the use of smaller screws? I could not find any love for the triple hammer either. Great video, and I DO like the split screen views. Cheers! 👍😁
I currently have the DTD171 and the DCF887 at home and trying to decide which one to keep. Makita feels smooth, already have DeWalt batteries though.
The 171 will out live the 887.
And the 171 has nicer settings.
And it's much smaller for tight spaces.
And it sounds nicer.
And it doesn't get so hot you can't pick it up.
I've got the 887 and although it hasn't ever let me down it does get very hot. Not something i would buy again.
The two Japanese ones are my favorites. Personally, I use the Metabo HPT.
Love the vid, been looking everywhere for a comparison against the milwaukee gen 3 and making 40v. Also that dewalt has a 54v battery, so its an unfair advantage when they're more closely compare the a milwaukee high output battery. The Gen3 would take 28 points for sure. Cheers mate keep it up
Best way to get that but out is if you can grab it with pliers get a hold of it and run the impact in reverse if you can get a good grip on it and it impacts in reverse you should be able to pull the collet forward and drop it out. If you cant get a grip on it you gotta take a punch and that fits in the collet and beat on it with a hammer and shock the bit loose then pull the collet forward and it should come out this happens allot to me at work and I got pretty good at getting them out sometimes you really have to hammer on them which probably isn't great for the tool but it beats disassembly
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To make it a fair test the batteries should all be the same amp
Pity you made such a comment, as this is addressed in the video.
Milwaukee brada 🙏🏼❤️
I’ve never seen a Makita that color before. I also want to add that Hikoki is now Metabo. A lot of people are saying they’re great tools. I don’t know first hand, but they have a great warranty.
Hikoi is still Hikoki. But in the states it is called Metabo HPT, not Metabo which is another brand again.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Okay maybe I heard wrong or misunderstood something I heard.
I thought Hikoki owned the Metabo brand completely.
Hikoki do own Metabo but they remain completely different tool lines.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL The HPT are supposedly really good and they have a great warranty. I wish I could find a good deal on the 1/2” impact because it’s supposedly one of the best.
I've reviewed a lot of Hikoki (Metabo HPT) tools on this channel. Check them out, they make mean nail guns, routers, and recips. among other tools.
MAKITA FOREVER ♾️🫵💪☝️🤘✊👌
I’d say deWalt is the biggest loser since the bit fell out of the chuck twice that I saw. Imagine if you were working up above people and the bit and socket hit someone on the head or damaged a floor etc.
Makes a lot of sense poor new wooden floor.
yeah my dewalts chuck crapped on me, it's the reason im watching these.
Dewalt is a old tool just been updated few times can't wait till they bring a 54v impact driver
I think for 2022 there coming out with a 96v max line off tools just to keep up with Milwaukee. Lol
Makita all the way
This is off topic, but maybe you know the answer.
I recently heard that Chervon, who makes Kobalt and Flex also makes parts for other brands.
Is that true?
Holy shit that hikoki and that screw 😂🤣
The triple hammer is shit I have both double and triple hammer hikoki and the double hammer is better
"this thing f*cked it good and proper" - also applicable to politicians
I use a milwaukee surge. Their hydraulic has some drawbacks, but it is stronger than the makita hydraulic that I also own. Once I got use to it, I think the hydraulic impacts are best. Quieter, strong, steady torque. I broke a bunch of screws when I first started using it though. 😂
I agree. Hydraulic is where it's at. If you need more than that I think you should be using an impact wrench. Just my .02
@@J.Wick. 100% I use my hydraulic for everything and only need to use the impact wrench for large nuts. I wish more manufacturers would do hydraulic but everyone goes for the bigger numbers. The Milwaukee (2016) and Makita (2015) oil impacts are several years old now without an update, I hope they don't drop them.
@@jimbob1321 me too.. That would be a real shame.. alot of folks just don't understand them, and only see the side of the box that the number there is way lower than the standard one, plus it's more expensive. You have to use it to appreciate it. I use the M12 Surge, and it sure feels alotttt stronger than 400in lbs... Lol
@@J.Wick. I recently bought the M12 Surge myself and absolutely love it. Plenty of power and quiet. It does 95% of my tasks, if I need to drive bigger lags/bolts i'll use my M12 Stubby which surprisingly drove an 1/2" x 8" Spax into Treated lumber. Absolutely love the M12 line.
After all they are a very good impact driver just depend how u use them for. Dewalt one is the cheapest one under $100 AUD, MILWAUKEE $150 AUD, Makita $200 AUD.
Apparently hikoki listened and worked on the triple hammer action. More precise as they say
Have you ever reviewed xdt15zb / dtd155zb, would love to check that out
Maybe worth checking if that 5.0 amp Makita battery can make an improvement. A short test just Makita VS Milwaukee would do it.
HI-KOKI 임펙을 어디에서 구할수 있나요?
Hi-koki now is Metabo really i like it .is the beast monster tool.
Hikoki and Metabo are two different things,but hikoki and Metabo HPT are the same.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 감사합니다.
Only Makita 👍
I have a question for you.
Amazon has the mid torque Metabo with two batteries, a charger and a case for $399. The same set is $839 at Lowe’s.
How can Amazon sell it for less than half of the price at Lowe’s?
Are comparing Metabo with Metabo? Or Metabo HPT with Metabo? Metabo tools are more expensive than Metabo HPT.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL It’s the HPT on both websites. WR36DE is the model number.
Tool Barn is also way less expensive than Lowes.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Tool Barn is even less expensive than Amazon, but it takes longer to get it.
Is Tool Barn reputable?
If you're considering a rematch with all four of the new flagship models, all you really need is the Milwaukee gen 4. The DCF850 is really the best DeWalt you're going to get in New Zealand any time soon. The current heavy hitter from DeWalt is the DCF840, but that's a Lowe's exclusive for the most part and, ironically, the flagship DCF845 brings less heat than the budget model. Other than that new Milwaukee, you're all set.
The 840 is cheap and readily available but gives specs lower than the 850 and 887
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Disregard the specs. I own it and it's a sleeper. Trust me. It's also very pleasant to use. If you want it, I'd recommend it just to have for yourself.
F**k i hoped that Hikoki would do better. Thanx for that vid man you saved me some money there.
Don't worry their gen2 36v triple hammer is on the way. More torque, more speed & smaller housing. It's getting released in Japan this month, hopefully next year we'll be getting it
wh36dc is the model number by the way
Awesome. Thnx
The torque is actually less on the new dc according to the Hikoki Japan website.
You should do it again with the new 36v hikoki impact driver it has more torque and less spindle wobble
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@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL thankyou i didnt see it i actually own all the 36v hitachi impact driver but i still love watching about them
I'm glad
I just bought the milwaukee
I have purchased all these tools and for the most part they're all good, but all of them have their weak points and strong points. I like longevity and reliability.
Try add AEG Fusion next time. It has good specs on paper but reality performance would be good to see. Good vid
The Hikoki is running the smallest battery of them 2.5ah. Makita 4.0ah and the other 2 6.0ah. It's like doing a dyno test with cars running u91 and u98. So this is not an even test. Still good to watch though
Need to compare watt hours instead of ah, due to different voltages across the tools.
Best drivers/ batteries for each of the brands. Fair fight as can be
you got me subed when you said „before it was fucked, but this thing fucked it good and propper“
No idea if it’s relevant but the hikoki is supposed to change the way it hammers in power mode, maybe some harmonic thing happening with the stainless screws when it changes modes perhaps???
Btw next time i wanna see Hilti in action.
Would love to see the new hikoki !
I reviewed it months ago.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL whoops. I actually now remember watching it haha
He never took into account how long he took between taking the impact out of the screw and putting it into another
Continue this for years and that makita will be the only one drilling
Ehhhhh my 6 year old majors drill just pooped out my dewalt impact same age is solid
I'm always baffled by the different colors or brand names of the same tools in the different countries/regions.
DEWALT 885 887 best out there 4 run every day dropped 20+feet numerous times still at work everyday
887s are junk. Even many dewalt users admit that.
DE WALT 👌👍✊✊✊
Got hikoki works great 👍
The older Dewalt 878 surely beats the 887 even though it has less settings, it hasn't dissapoint me, but the 887 did a few times already.
Good video
Glad you enjoyed
What’s funny is he wasn’t even using a high output battery on that Milwaukee which is what the “fuels” were designed to run. He was using an obsolete battery and it was still more powerful and faster than the others.
High output batteries are not designed for impact drivers.
Wouldve started with milwaukee if it didnt hve the collet or switch problems. maybe gen 4 will be better.
Best one is 18 Volt Hitachi/hikoki .
You mean that's the one you have, and you haven't tried any of the ones in this video.
Downside about makita is the longevity on the batteries isn't the best. M18 all the way.
Milwaukee tools suck the juice out of the batteries faster than any other brand.
Not sure if there’s a video out there yet or not of the Ryobi P238 versus the Makita would love to see that
Fucked it !!! GOOD and PROPER 🤣🤣🤣
In the video I see that you put more pressure in the Milwaukee drill than the rest of them, that is wy the Milwaukee looks more faster, and maybe is a little bit more faster but not so much like,you make we see in the video.
Rubbish.
I see a lot of different contractors and service man and I see that about 90% of them are pulling out there Makita tools when going to do the job.
I know its expensive but, Makita xwt08 vs Milwaukee 2767-20
Maybe i read it wrong, but does DeWalt costs only half of the rest?
You should send the Makita in for a warranty. According to their specs. it should blow away their own 18volts driver, but this seems to be weaker than that.
No it is more powerful than the 18v, I have already done a review on that of course. But not much better. Makita only claim the 40v is "around 10% faster" than the DTD171 (DT171D, XDT16)
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL That's strange, it has 25% more torque, but only 10% improvement. Then it's not worth the upgrade.
@@svtrader I have the DTD 171 and it's powerful enough for everything I ever did
I've had the lxt's for over a decade now I've changed to the m18 fuel and I can confirm milwaukee are superior to Makita and dewalt.
thank you!