Understanding People who Follow Ibn Taymiyyah - Shaykh Hamza Yusuf
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Everyone is commenting why sheikh hamza yusuf is bad but it’s funny because no understands what he is saying on a epistemological level and these wahabbis just slander they don’t debate
These wahahbis are lost mate.
@'Abdul-'Azeez Ibn Mustafa Modern day Salafi's have nothing to do with the Salaf
@'Abdul-'Azeez Ibn Mustafa Wahabi. followers of clan of M.I.A.W.Najdi and I.Taymiyyah.
Al Wahhaab is one of Allaah's names...
Don't mock it
Don't call names to people your sheikh never tought you good maners
Ibn Taymiyyah R.H quotes the Sahaba R.A directly. So, his understanding is in accordance with the understanding of the Sahaba R.A and what was taught to them directly by the Prophet S.A.W.
And the other Scholars quote from fulan ibn fulan?
Yeah but many stories are not authentic
@@paradox2648 not true at all, he only used saheeh hadith
@@koshinaden263
That is a blatant falsified claim
Ibn taymmyah’s book {bayam talbees al hahmyiah} utilises completely inadequate and weak hadeeths from {aösoul-al-sunnah} which is attributed to abd-allah ibn ahmad ibn hanbal {رضوان الله عليه}, whose chain of transmission is weakened by the absence of tow generations of narrators
And even al-albani considered them to be not only inauthentic as in being {weak}, but also to be completely falsified {موضوعة}
So yeah, ibn taymmyah doesn’t only quote inauthentic hadiths, but he considers them to be absolute correct to the extent of establishing all of his principles and argumentations upon them.
Imams: Abu Hanifa, Malik, Al-Shafi, and Ahmad (May Allah reward and be pleased with them) all took the knowledge of Quran, Sunna and Sahaba.
All of you Muslims listen. Let us respect each other in our opinions of knowledge. We are Muslims. And if we have something of a different understanding from fiqh or Deen, we still love each other for the sake of Allah. We have the world attacking us because we are Muslim, so will we attack and name call each other and cut off our relationships with our fellow Muslims? Don't fall for it Ikhwan. Let's leave the labels of Sufi, Salafi, and Wahhabi alone. As long as it doesn't travel outside our aqeedah, then opinions have always been respected from the time of rasululah s.a.w. as long as it doesn't oppose Quran and Sunnah. Remember rasululah s.a.w. said we will be divided into 73 sects. But he said Ummati. Meaning, all of them are from his ummah. Obviously those of the nation of Islam or qadianis are out of Islam. Muslim brothers and sisters, learn to respect politely opinions. We have to start right now acting as one Ummah. Let's start now jaza kala khairan
@Iqra Saeed
The problem started when one group claimed that other interpretations are innovations and their interpretation is direct from the Qur'an and Sunna as it was understood in the time of Companions and the next two generations.
When you have this exclusive and self-righteous outlook on your own interpretation, you will naturally show hostility to other interpretations, calling them innovations.
If the followers of Ibn Taymiyya were content to call their interpretation the madhhab Ibn Taymiyya, just as the followers of Ash'ari call their interpretation the madhhab of Ash'ari and the Mu'tazilis called their interpretations the madhhab of I'tizal, things would have been more peaceful and brotherly.
But the followers of Ibn Taymiyya aggressively insist that the madhhab of Ibn Taymiyya is the very madhhab of the Companions and the succeeding generations, and therefore all the other madhhabs of aqida are innovations.
@Iqra Saeed
@Iqra Saeed
I have no disagreement with you then, sister.
I have no problem with people who interpret Ibn Taymiyya in the same way other people interpret Malik, Shafi'i, Abu Hanifa, Abul-Hasan al-Ash'ari, al-Maturidi, al-Ghazali, al-Qadi Abd al-Jabbar, etc. They are convinced by his approach in 'aqida/fiqh/etc but they do not condemn others for not being convinced.
I think some of Ibn Taymiyya's followers give Ibn Taymiyya a bad name. Of course, Ibn Taymiyya was very controversial in his own time, attracting a lot of hostility. But something similar can be said of Abu Hanifa. Ultimately, sectarianism and attacking different approaches to Qur'an and Sunna of the Salaf goes against the letter of Qur'an and Sunna of the Salaf.
In the Qur'an:
مُنِيبِينَ إِلَيْهِ وَاتَّقُوهُ وَأَقِيمُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَلَا تَكُونُوا مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ
مِنَ الَّذِينَ فَرَّقُوا دِينَهُمْ وَكَانُوا شِيَعًا ۖ كُلُّ حِزْبٍ بِمَا لَدَيْهِمْ فَرِحُونَ
In the Sunna of Salaf:
بعض التابعين قال: ما أرى أصحاب النبي ﷺ اختلفوا إلا رحمة من الله
How can we call someone a muslim who agree with people who blow themselves up shaming us worldwide
The Sheikh of Islam Ibn Taymiyyah assumed a great position and a high rank among scholars, even with those who opposed him in the madhhab and methodology, due to his knowledge of the Qur’an and the Sunnah, and his following of them, and his expansion in the transmitted and reasonable, and his following the doctrine of the righteous predecessors, and his intelligence and speed of comprehension, and here are some of the sayings of the scholars on that. Sheikh Al-Hafiz Abu Al-Fath Bin Sayed Al-Nass said: ((He almost understands the Sunan and the Traditions by memorizing. He is greater than his bee in that, nor is he higher than his knowledge, he excelled in every art over his kind, and no eye has seen someone like him, nor has his eye seen like himself. From the spring of his bounty in Rawda and Ghadeer.” Al-Hafiz Abu Al-Hajjaj Al-Mazi said: “I have not seen the like of him, nor has he seen the like of himself, and I have not seen anyone who is more knowledgeable about the Book of God and the Sunnah of His Messenger, and I do not follow them more than him.” Al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar said in Al-Durar Al-Latin: ((He looked at men and their causes, he learned his knowledge, he excelled, he distinguished, he advanced, he classified, he taught, he gave fatwas, he surpassed his peers, and he became a wonder at the speed of God. Invocation, the power of the heavens, the expansion of the transmitted and the reasonable, and the prolongation of the doctrines of the predecessors and the successors) Sheikh Kamal Al-Din bin Al-Zamalkani also wrote in his handwriting on the book “Removing the blame from the imams the flags”, the text of which is “The authorship of Sheikh Imam Al-Alam, the only scholar, the hafiz, the diligent, the ascetic, the ascetic, the worshiper, the example, the Imam of the imams, the example of the nation, a sign. The scholars, the inheritors of the prophets, the last of the mujtahids, the one of the religious scholars, the blessing of Islam, the argument of the media, the proof of the theologians, the suppressor of innovators, the resurrection of the Sunnah, and the one whom you magnify for God’s favor upon us, and you made it against his enemies the argument, and whose blessing and his gift became clear, the argument, Taqi al-Din Abu al-Abbas Ahmed bin Abdul Halim bin Abd al-Salam bin Taymiyyah al-Harrani, the highest of God is his beacon And it was built with it from the pillars of religion. Imam Ibn Abd al-Hadi mentioned in the contracts a story about the Sheikh of Islam, which is: that some of the sheikhs of scholars in Aleppo came to Damascus, and he said: I heard in the country about a boy called: Ahmed bin Taymiyyah, and that he is quick to memorize, and I came with a purpose; Perhaps I will see him, and a tailor said to him: This is the path of his scribes, and he has not yet come, so sit with us when he comes, he crosses over us, going to the book, so the Sheikh Al-Halabi sat for a while, and two boys passed by. The tailor said to al-Halabi: This is the boy who has the large tablet, he is Ahmed bin Taymiyyah, so the sheikh called him, so he came to him. Ten hadiths, and he said to him: Read this, so he did not exceed that you contemplate it once after writing it, then he pushed it to him, and said: Hear it to me. He chose her, then said: Read this, and he looked at it as he did the first time, so the sheikh got up and said: If this boy lived, he would have a great position. The scholar Ibn Al-Najjar, may God Almighty have mercy on him, said: Ibn Taymiyyah, may God Almighty have mercy on him.” The scholar Marei bin Yusuf Al-Karmi Al-Hanbali wrote a book on the virtues of Sheikh Al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah, and he called it “Al-Kawwab Al-Duriya min Munaqib Al-Mujtahid Ibn Taymiyyah” chosen from the book “Al-Aqd Al-Duriya” by Ibn Abd al-Hadi, and the Attic Flags, by Abu Hafs Omar Ibn Taymiyyah. Ali Al-Bazzar, and the translation of Sheikh Al-Islam from the book “The Paths of the Eyes in the Kingdoms of Al-Amsar” by Shihab Al-Din Ahmed bin Al-Qadi Muhyi al-Din al-Omri al-Shafi’i, and it was from what he said, may God Almighty have mercy on him: And after these are nice benefits, and honorable merits from the virtues of the Sheikh of Islam and Bahr al-Ulum, and the Mufti of Difference, the mujtahid Taqi al-Din Ibn Taymiyyah… Imam al-Dhahabi said: ((He was a verse in intelligence and speed of perception, straight in Knowing the Book, the Sunnah, and differences, by sea in transmissions, is unique in his time in knowledge, asceticism, courage and generosity, enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong, a large number of compilations, and he read and obtained, excelled in hadith and jurisprudence, and qualified for teaching and fatwas when he was seventeen years old, and advanced in the science of interpretation. And the fundamentals, and all the sciences of Islam: their origins, their branches, their subtleties and all, except for the science of readings. If the interpretation is mentioned, then it bears its banner, and if the jurists are counted, then he is their absolute diligent, and if the preservers are present, they are pronounced and silenced, and narrate and become obsolete, and become wealthy and bankrupt, ... and he has a great hand in knowledge of Arabic, morphology and language, and he is greater than my words describe him, or he alerts my pen. His biography, his knowledge, his knowledge, his tribulations and his movements are likely to be studded in two volumes, and he is a human being who has sins, so God Almighty will forgive him and make him dwell in the highest heaven, for he was the god of the nation, the unique of time, the standard bearer of Sharia, and the owner of the dilemmas of Muslims, and he was a leader in science. He exaggerates in exaggerating his standing in the field of truth, jihad, and enjoining good and forbidding evil, exaggerating what I have seen, nor seen by anyone, nor by a jurist.”
@@abotrump5186 yea, right below everyone who smashed his a$$. 🤣
Hamza yusuf made a good point......salafi act like they follow the sahabah and the salaf.....but like hamza yusuf said whos understanding.....these guys follow ibn taymiyyah and muhhammed ibn abdil wahab....not sahabah, they passed away 1400 years ago, you wss born yesterday, take a seat.
@Mark Book loool the only thing you proved with that comment is how poor your english grammer is 🤣🤣🤣🤣. You're gonna need a seat and a seat belt. LOOOOL
@@Manzar534 and you proved your just butt hurt you have nothing to say about my initial comment
@@Manzar534 savage 😂
I love Ibn Taymiyyah so much!
Love Allah and Muhammad s
@@zamindal283 what is "Muhammed s"?. Say Prophet Mohammed (Peace be upon him)!
"You're gonna be following somebody." If you follow Ibn Taymiyyah, fine and well. It would help to call yourself the Taymiyyun though, instead of trying make your understanding of the Book and the Sunnah like you are actually following the Salaf, as if you aren't primarily relying- almost exclusively- on his understanding.
@@abdullahdawood1624 yes, you too.
that would be helpful
As Salam alaykum the some apply for you you also follow the understanding o Abu Hassan Al Ashari and Ibn Tayymiah follows Imam Ahmad and the Salaf who take it from Quran and Sunah
Alaikum Salam. Imam Ibn Taymiyyah follower Koran, Sunnah and Salaf.
Ibn Taymiyyah does not follow Imam Ahmad. Imam Ahmad's Aqeedah was pure and simple.
@@justneedlife2001 Ibnu Taimiyyah is Hanabilah by akidah and fiqh.
@@thetrollz2248 I know. But his Aqida was different from most of the hanabila before him.
@@justneedlife2001 Aqidah: Ibn Taymiyyah vs lbn Hazm
Abü Abdir-Rahmān lbn 'Aqil ath- Thāhirī stated: "And
the claim of Al-Kawtharī that lbn Hazm was ina better
state than lbn Taymiyyah in matters of Aqīdah was
foolishness. Indeed, in matters of 'Aqīdah, lbn
Taymiyyah is only upon the Math'hab of the absolute
Imām of Ahl as-Sunnah since his era; lI'm referring to
Imām Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, aul áaj. This is despite the
fact that the Math'hab of Al-Ash'arī in the area of Al-
Asma Waş-Sifāt is better than the Mathhab of Ibn
Hazm. As for the Math'hab of Ahmad in Al-Asmā Waş-
Sifat then it is that which clarifies the Truth, In Shã
Allāh. Yet, had the Math'hab of Ibn Hazm in all of the
beliefs: had it been like the Math'hab of Ahmad, Ibn
Hazm would have been the source of pride for the East
and the West. But Abū Muhammad only went astray in
beliefs because he did not perfect the implementation
of the fundamentals of taking the Thāhir." "ibn Hazm
Khilāl Alf 'Ām", Vol 4/245
Absolutely hit hammer on the nail Alhamdulillah. Salafi's' talk about Aqeedah as if the Aqeedah they follow is the only way. But they ignore the fact that the Aqeedah they follow is in accordance with the understanding of Ibn Taymiyyah. They also ignore the fact that he differed with the vast majority of Scholars in his understanding of Aqeedah from the Salaf to the present day. He differed from the Ijma (consensus). Now I only have to mention a few greats he differed from and you will understand - Imaam Tahawi, the 4 Mujtahid Imaams, Imaam Nawawi, Ibn Hajar Asqalani and many many more. So are they all wrong but Ibn Taymiyyah is right? You decide. Don't just learn from pseudo Salafi scholars. Broaden your knowledge and your eyes will open InshaAllah.
@'Abdul-'Azeez Ibn Mustafa you've just proved you know nothing about what the Salaf believed nor how Ibn Taymiyyah differed with them. The Salaf, 4 Imaams, Imaam Tahawi and the vast majority of scholars from then until now did NOT literally interpret verses of Muthashaabihat. They accept the verses without interpreting why and how. They did not practicse literal interpretation (Tajseem) of the Sifaat of Allah. This is called Anthropomorphism. This is a deviation of Aqeedah which can lead to confusion and weird beliefs of Allah of which does not befit his majesty. So please read outside of the very narrow number of scholars you follow and your heart, eyes and ears will open. However your eyes, ears and heart will never open as long as you hold onto your cultist mentality which only leads to arrogance, pride and a gang mentality of "only we are on the right path". This is exactly the way the treacherous Khwaarij thought and what led to their eventual destruction.
@@inspirationalguy81 you seem like you are a little bit knowledgeable in the sifaat but you have to understand everyone you named had the same understanding. They didn’t try to interpret the sifaat there’s actually nobody from the salaf that they can reference. Can you imagine that? Not a single daleel for interpretation of the sifaat. The true aqeedah is to accept the meaning without knowing the howness or without doing any tashbeeh (liking Allah swt to anything) or tamtheel or ta’deel or tahreef or takyeef and I’ll provide you with proofs.
1. I’ll use Imam Malik رحمه الله to refute you since you lied about him. This is what he said about استواء
الاستواء معلوم والكيف مجهول و امان به واجب و سؤال عنه بدعة
Meaning of istiwaa is known, the howness is unknown, belief in it is waajib, and questions about it is bidaa.
This is the WORDS OF IMAM MALIK HIMSELF. I hope you have an open mind are are willing to look more deeply into this issue. I can name more like ibn masood رضي الله عنه a companion as well as sufyan thawri as well as others. Meanwhile I openly challenge you to bring me ONE DALEEL ONE EVIDENCE for your beliefs? It should be easy right since this is your WHOLE AQEEDAH we’re talking about here? I come from a ashari background so I know where you are coming from. Nobody is a mushabbih we all agree that is kufr akbar and you leave Islam for doing that or being a mujassim don’t spread lies about the deen it will be harder for people to find the truth
@@Dvlly99
Zayd ibn 'Ali, student of his father Zayn al-'Abidin. Wasil ibn 'Ata, student of al-Hasan al-Basri and 'Abdullah ibn Muhammad ibn al-Hanafiyya. These are scholars who lived before Malik and Thawri and did ta'wil of sifaat.
@@Dvlly99 Sayyiduna Ali (Allah be pleased with him) says, “Allah existed when there was no place, and He is now where He has always been [i.e. without place].” (Al-Farq bayna al-Firaq, P: 333)
Imam al-Tahawi (Allah have mercy on him) states, “He (Allah) is beyond having limits placed on Him, or being restricted, or having parts or limbs. Nor is He contained by the six directions like all the created things.” (Al-Aqida al-Tahawiyya, Point: 38)
It is stated in Al-Fiqh al-Akbar, attributed to Imam Abu Hanifa, “Allah is an entity unlike any other entity. The meaning of [Allah being a] entity [unlike any other] is that He is without body (jism), substance (jawhar), or accident (arad). He has no definition/limit, no opposite, no equal, and no peer…” (See: Minah al-Rawd al-Azhar fi sharh al-Fiqh al-Akbar, P: 117-120)
Imam Abu Hanifa (Allah be pleased with him) also states in his Al-Fiqh al-Absat, “If it is asked, ‘Where is Allah?’ It will be said to him that Allah Most High existed when there was no place, before creating the creation. And Allah Most High existed when there was no ‘where’, no creation, nothing; and He is the Creator of everything.” (Al-Fiqh al-Absat, P: 21)
Mulla Ali al-Qari states in his commentary of Al-Fiqh al-Akbar, “Allah Most High does not reside in a place from the places and neither in a time from the times, because place and time are from the created things whilst Allah Most High has existed eternally when nothing from the created things were in existence with Him.” (Minah al-Rawd al-Azhar fi sharh al-Fiqh al-Akbar, P: 117)
Qadi Abu Ya’la al-Hanbali says, “Indeed, Allah Most High is not to be described with [residing in a] place.” (Daf’ Shubah al-Tashbih, P: 43)
Based on this, it is erroneous to say that Allah Most High is ‘physically’ in the sky or above the heavens on His Throne. Likewise, it is wrong to say that He Most High is ‘physically’ everywhere and in everything. The reason, as explained above, is that these things are created and limited. The Throne and heavens are restricted entities, and space is an area restricted within six dimensions. Allah Most High cannot be confined to things He has created, such as the heavens and the Throne. He is the creator of time and space, and thus is exalted beyond both.
Furthermore; sitting, standing, rising over, ascending, descending, climbing, etc are all characteristics of created bodies, whilst Allah is pure from having any attributes of created things attributed to Him. Allah is not in need of a place in order to exist. Imam al-Tahawi sums this up by saying, “He [Allah] is independent of the Throne and that which is beneath it.” (Al-Aqida al-Tahawiyya, Point: 50)
@@Dvlly99 This position of tafwid is based on the following verse of the Qur’an:
“He [Allah] is the One who has revealed to you the Book [the Qur’an]. Out of it there are verses that are muhkamat [of established meaning], which are the principal verses of the Book, and some others are mutashabihat [whose definite meanings are unknown]. Now those who have perversity in their hearts go after the mutashabih of it, seeking [to create] discord, and searching for its interpretation [that meets their desires], while no one knows its interpretation except Allah; and those well-grounded in knowledge say: We believe therein; all is from our Lord. Only the men of understanding observe the advice.” (Qur’an 3:7)
Mulla Ali al-Qari states in his commentary of Al-Fiqh al-Akbar, “Imam Abu Hanifa (Allah have mercy on him) said in his Kitab al-Wasiyya, ‘We agree that Allah performed istiwa [literal meaning: positioned Himself] upon the Throne without Him having any need for it or resting on it. He is the Guardian of the Throne and all besides the Throne. If He were in need [of the Throne], He would not have been capable of bringing the universe into existence and administrating over its affairs, like the created beings [for created things are in need, and the one in need of others cannot create the universe]. If He [Allah Most High] was in need of sitting or settling [on the Throne], then before the creation of the Throne, where was He Most High? In effect, He is transcendent of all of this.’ (Minah al-Rawd al-Azhar fi sharh al-Fiqh al-Akbar P: 126-127)
Mulla Ali al-Qari further states, “How fitting is the response of Imam Malik (Allah have mercy on him) when he was asked about istiwa. He said, ‘istiwa is known [i.e. we know and accept that it has been mentioned in the Qur’an, because in another narration Imam Malik said, ‘istiwa is not unknown’], the ‘how’ (kayf) is unknown [this has also been transmitted as ‘the how is not comprehensible’], asking about it is an innovation, and belief in it [i.e. accepting it to be part of revelation] is obligatory.’ This is the way of the early scholars (salaf) and the safest path, and Allah knows best.” (Minah al-Rawd al-Azhar fi sharh al-Fiqh al-Akbar P: 127)
Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal (Allah have mercy on him) said, when asked about Allah’s istiwa on the Throne, “He performs istiwa upon the Throne, however He wills and as He wills, without any limit or any description that can be made by any describer.” (Daf’ Shubah al-Tashbih, P: 28)
Imam Shafi’i (Allah have mercy on him) would simply say regarding the mutashabihat texts, “I believe in what has come from Allah as it was intended by Allah, and I believe in what has come from the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and give him peace) as it was intended by the Messenger of Allah.” (Ibn Qudama, Dhamm al-Ta’wil)
Imam Sufyan ibn Uyayna (Allah have mercy on him) says, “All that Allah has described Himself with in His Book; its explanation is its reciting and keeping silent about it.” (Bayhaqi, Al-Asma’ wa ‘l-sifat 2/158)
May Alllah guide him and us to the true belief
What a fraud! Ibn Taymiyyah's Aqeedah is the Creed of the Salaf which is the Qur'an and Sunnah upon the understanding of the sahaabah.
What a liar!
As for the Jamaa'ah, it is not the majority, rather it is as the sahabi, ibn Mas'ūd said: during the Khilaafah of Uthman ibn Affan, to his student, Amr ibn Maymoon:
“Verily, the majority of the people are the ones splitting away from the Jamaa’ah! Verily, the Jamaa’ah is what is in accordance with the Truth, even if you are alone (i.e. the only one upon the Truth).”
[Sharh Usool al-I’tiqaad of Imaam al Laalikaa’ee, I’lam al Muwaqqieen of ibn al-Qayyim]
Ibn Taymiyyah said whoever doesn't believe Allah is literally sitting on the throne, is a Kaafer! His head must be cu*t off and thrown into the garbage..
And he also said, there is nothing stopping me from believing God is not a body..
Which Sahabi said such a thing, name please?
@@faheem6530 firstly, bring your proof for your claim of Ibn Taymiyyah saying this? (Since it is you who is saying this; then if you are truthful and you want good for a fellow Muslim, you'll bring your evidences)
Secondly, bring the context and correct translation of what he said alongside the source and references (that's if you have proof and evidence in the first place). In addition, what proofs Ibn Taymiyyah used also.
Remember, ascribing something to someone that is not True is a major sin.
I patiently await.
@@hussaingani I knew you'll say this and I already know what you are going to say in your next comment :)
Following are the proofs of my 2 claims, you can read them in context, ofcourse :)
1- Majmu Al Fatawa, Volume 5, Page 391..
2- Al-Tasis Radd asas al-Taqdis, Bayyan Talbis Al-Jahmiyyah, Volume 1, Page 118..
About second claim, you will find some refutations on internet but they are all false & cherry-picked!
Infact, he even said God is only free of body-parts which are not eating & drinking! This is also in Majmu al Fatawa, Volume 2 i guess & various other writings...
Fatwas are Fatwas! They are straight-forward!
The splitting one are Ibnu Taimiyyah. Sorry brother
@@hussaingani 😂 it’s been 3 months she didn’t prove any proof 🤦🏾
One of our best sheikh IBN TAYYMIYAH RAHIMAHULLAH
Rahimahullah, from Turkey
@@muhammedtapar6513 okay
What is his aqida on Allah's attributes?
Let me teach you shaykh how to follow Islam. We follow the Quran and the sunnah with the understanding of the 3 favourite generations i.e. sahabi, tabi, tabi tabi
😂everyone knows that kid
Every muslim does that , you woke from where ? Reels scholars ? Or internet scholar , since it's the trending in the Ummah these days , people accusing Ahul Sunnah wal jammah of biddah etc..
Wow you are so smart little Wahabi idiot.
We follow *the understanding of the Salaf* and If something conflcts with their understanding then we leave it.
This is our methodology.
A Traveller In Dunya yes!
A Traveller In Dunya Typical ‘salafi’ rhetoric.
you follow something you IMAGINE to be the way of the salaf, not the actual way of the salaf like the asharis and maturidis and the true atharis. karramiya hashwiyya is what today's fake salafis follow. they claim to be salafi but they just follow the karramiya
Did the salaf regard this as the methodology that should be used?
Understanding of the Salaf according to whose interpretation? We all follow the Quran and Sunnah according to the understanding of the Salaf...
Salafis are the biggest muqalidoon. Hanafis disagree with fatawa of Imam Abu Hanifa, Malikis disagree with fatawa of Imam Malik.. But salafis? My God, how could Bukhari and Muslim make a mistake? This is how they behave.
His lovely sense of human serves as an argument for the things he's saying :)
Thanks for clarifying, ‘vast majority’ *after the 8th century*. The majority in the first 3 centuries is what matters, though, and they were all upon what Ibn Taymiyyah رحمه الله preached.
Nah men
THE POINT IS IBN TAMIYYAH BROKE AWAY FROM CONSENSUS WHEN HE SAID WHAT HE SAID, HE WAS IMPRISONED FOR HIS IDEAS. AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF SCHOLARS AFTER HIM AGREED THAT THOSE PARTICULAR POINTS IN AQEEDAH OF HIS WERE WRONG.
I follow ibn Taymiyyah because Allah says in Quran that most dont believe..and he didnt exclude shuyukh i.e. scholars.
Also his views on divorce are merciful, and one of the reasons why he was imprisoned.
Ibn taymiyyah is a great scholar he follows the Quran and the Sunnah
Ibne Taimiah is the descendant of Abdullah Ibne Ubay, hypocrite the great
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become a qadiani then, they are radically different from anything we have had since the inception of islam
@@kamrulhasan3468 Islam is only Quran and sunnah. Anything else is not submission i.e. Islam.
The jamaat is not the majority, the jammat is the sahaba. Because they are the people where the Qur'an is revealed, and Allah and then his Messenger and Angel are witnes for their truthfulness. Anyone who contradict the jamaa of companions, then he is innovator
With such audacity this man lies is quite astonishing. Prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم commanded us to follow the sahaba in the famous hadith of 73 sects. Ibn Taymiyyah called towards the understanding of sahaba when it comes to understanding of Quran and Sunnah. No salafi under the sky says that I understand Quran and Sunnah how Ibn Taymiyyah understood, rather we say we understand Quran and Sunnah how Companions understood, this is what Ibn Taymiyyah called to Alhumdulilah
Your slanders can't defame him
Ibn Taymiyya (rh) was a great scholar, but his views in many things were minority views. His views regarding the finite size of Allah (swt) and how Jahannam is temporary for kuffar, for instance. Even you Salafis don't take everything from him, as Ibn Taymiyya (rh) was a Sufi as well and belonged to Qadariyya Tariqat.
@@geeljire9247 Ibn Taymiyyah wasn’t a sufi. He has criticized a lot of sufi practices.
@@the_odd_cat553 He did. He criticized Istighata and the notions of bid'ah - but he practiced Tasawwuf himself. Ibn Taymiyya (rh) claimed himself to be a Sufi.
@@geeljire9247 First of all, he did not say jahannam is temporary, thats just a lie and taken out of context from what he quoted of his opponents like Jahm.
Show quote that he said Allah has a size
@@geeljire9247 No he did not call himself a sufi. You're crazy
Why is Hamza Yusuf critisising ibn taymiyaah? I don't get it...
Because he was against shirk
@@labulaxsupplies579 so?
he is from a (kalam)i cult called Maturidi, they are against the believes of Salaf whether they admit that or not, and also he is a sufi so obviously he is going to criticize Ibn Taymiyyah
@@abdulvahitamro makes sense. Because Ibn Taymiyah was a great scholar may Allah have mercy on him
Hamza is a Sufi.. says it all..
Lol you even know meaning of Sufism 😂😂😂😂
You know imam Jalaluddin suyuti!
Ibn hajar asqalani?
@@Human_boy_91 ibn hajar is an ashari and suyuti is an sufi ashari. big problems with sifat of Allah. and big problems with duaa to the death.
@@digitaltauhid they have different tawheed from you
Imam Jalaluddin suyuti rahmatullah alaih was a mujajdid of his century
@@Human_boy_91 if people have problems with asma ua sifat then their tawheed is wrong. and why do i need to follow him if i can follow imam shafi, maliki or hanbali
@@digitaltauhid lol bro they also follow them
A mufassir means a commentator on hadees
They study the Quran and hadees and give their opinions on that
They are also muqallid
And imam Jalaluddin suyuti rahmatullah alaih is a great personality of his Century
I recommend to read his books
He is great scholar of Shafi fiqh
And ibn idin of in Hanfi
Which you are? Hanbali?
Mashallah shaykh Hamza Yusuf, Allah bless you. The prophet (PBUH) said "say the truth even if it may be bitter", so we should not be afraid of the truth. Ibn Taymiya (Allah have mercy on him) is just a fallible man. People should not follow him blindly.
Who follows IBN taymiyyah
Yes, so we follow the Prophet saw, with the understanding of the Sahaba, and then the understanding of the Tabieen, and then the understanding of the tabieen tabieen.
@@syedmohammedhussain799 Which sahabas
@@syedmohammedhussain799 I don't think the sahabas probably ninjas from pakistan
@@samirbushmaster3016 the ones of Great Knowledge
This is misgudance.
Do Taqleed, of the sahaba. How hard is that to understand.
( وتفترق أمتي على ثلاث وسبعين ملة كلهم في النار إلا واحدة، قالوا: ومن هي يا رسول الله؟ قال: ما أنا عليه وأصحابي)
So Saying "the vast majority of alama after the 8th centurty were oppesed to ibn taymyiah" is both unfounded and meaningless.
prophet SAW said scholars are the inheritors of the prophet, its true we should follow the sahabi but according to whose understandind of the deen...we ignore imam malik, abu hanifa, shaffiii, and for your opinions??
@@swabrianwar1020 note the word inhertors, that means to take from the prophit through the sahaba, which is the case for imam malik, ahmad, etc. But not the case for kalam based aqeedas.
@@h_2364 what of imam shaffii rahimahullah??
@@swabrianwar1020 like ahmad, and malik.
رحمهم الله جميعا رحمة واسعة.
@@h_2364 good for you, i follow shafii madhhab
Dont get pull down by just one understanding and become and extremist . But accept explanation with sahih proof. Dont taklid blindly and follow blindly.
Hope next time you come prepared better rather than labelling baloney against the imam of ahle sunnah. And please keep your beard according to sunnah.
Some of his understanding and beliefs in aqidaah are not found in the teachings of salaf as saliheen. And he thought he was mujtahid imam who could make his own rulings so he many times went against the teachings and understanding of salaf
So was Imam Ahmad with the jam’ah when he was one of the only imams who was against the Mu’tazila?
He wasn't the only one ,
@@sari9406 but certainly wasn't majority
@@1eV Yes, and this does not mean that he is wrong or right (not by number) and many of those who were in the other row were forced
@@sari9406 hence "majority of ummah is right" is a false claim
@@1eV Not necessarily. Today, most people have deviated from religion. What will not happen is that people (scholars) agree on something wrong, but the majority can agree on something wrong but a minority will still disagree with them, even if you look at the Qur’an, you will find the word “the majority” always talking about the unbelievers and the corrupt.
Should have an Imam? Ibn taymiyyah literally gives his daleel for everything from thr Hadeeth and the sunnah and the Quran.
Wallahi all imams are Human, the Quran and the hadeeths aren't
Understanding of RasulAllah s.a.w and the salaf
Sheikh ul Islam Imam ibn Taymiyyah.
Ibn Taymiyyah was a sheikh ul Islam in everything except in aqeeda- Abu Jafar al Hanbali
Alhamdulillah. I am from Turkey. I love Imam Ibn Taymiyyah Rahimahullah🖤
You can not find one scholar from the salaf salah who's aqeedah is diffrent then the aqeedah of sheikh ul islaam ibn taymieyyah (rah) actually ibn taymieyyah copied the aqeedah of the salaf salih.
LOL you're a stupid foolish ignorant boy
The Renewer of Islam in the previous century, Imam
Muhammad Zahid al-Kawtharl, stated in strong terms that Ibn
Taymiyyas position on the Divine Attributes is tantamount to disbelief and apostasy because it reduces Allah to a corporeal body. He states in his Maqalat:
In al-Tasis fi Radd Asds al-Taqdls (“The Laying of the Foun- dation: A Refutation of al-RazI’s “The Foundation of Divine Sanctification”), Ibn Taymiyya says: “Al-'arsh (the Throne) lexically means al-sarlr (elevated seat or couch), so named with respect to what is on top of it, just as the roof is so named with respect to what is under it. Therefore, if the Qur an attributes a throne to Allah, it is known that this throne is, with respect to Allah, like the elevated seat is with respect to other than Allah. This makes it necessarily true that He is on top of the Throne.” So then the Throne is, for Ibn Taymiyya, the seat ( maq'ad ) of Allah - Exalted is He far beyond such a notion! He also says: It is well-known that the Book, the Sunna, and the Consensus nowhere say that all bodies ( ajsam ) are created, and nowhere say that Allah Himself is not a body. Nor did any of the Imams of the Muslims ever say such a thing. Therefore if I also choose not to say it, it does not expel me from fitra nor from Shari' a!" These words are complete impudence. What did he do with all the verses declaring Allah to be far removed from anything like unto Him? Does he expect that the idiocy that every single idiot can come up with be addressed with a specific text? Is it not enough that Allah said: {There is nothing whatsoever like Him}{ 42:11)? Or does he consider it permissible for someone to say: Allah eats this, chews that, and tastes this, just because no text mentions the opposite? This is disbelief laid bare and pure anthropomorphism.
@@thewolf1801
Abu al-Hasan Alee ad-Daraqutnee (d. 385H), brings in his "Kitaab us-Sifaat, with his chain of narration:
Muhammad bin Makhlad narrated to us: Muhammad bin Muhammad bin Umar bin al-Hakam Abu al-Hasan al-Ataa said: I heard Muhammad bin Mus'ab al-Aabidsaying:
Whoever claims that you do not speak and will not be seen in the Hereafter, then He is a kaafir (disbeliever) in your Face, and he does not know you. I bear witness that you are above the Throne, above the seventh heaven and it is not as your enemies, the zanaadiqah (heretics) say.
Muhammad bin Mus'ab was one of the pious worshipers and reciters, he was praised by Imaam Ahmad bin Hanbalwho described him with being upon the Sunnah, and Abu al-Hasan al-Attaar narrated from him. He was thiqah, and a reciter of the Book of Allaah. He died in 228H, refer to Taareekh Bagdhaad (3/279) of al-Khateeb. And al-Khateeb al-Baghdaadee also reported this athar with the same isnaad in Tareekh Baghdaad (3/280). And it is also found in as-Sunnah of Abdullaah bin Imaam Ahmad (1/182).
Source: "Kitaab us-Sifaat" of ad-Daraqutnee (tahqeeq Alee Naasir al-Faqeehee), no. 64, p 72.
-Qa'nabee, that Imaam (d. 221H)
Banaan bin Ahmad said:
We were with Al-Qa'nabee(rahimahullaah) and he heard a man amongst the Jahmiyyah saying: "ar-Rahmaan 'alal Arsh istawlaa" (ar-Rahmaan conquered the Throne). So Al-Qa'nabee said:
Whoever does not hold with certain belief that ar-Rahmaan indeed ascended over the Throne as it occurs and is settled in the hearts of the generality (of the people) is a Jahmee.
Abdul-Azeez al-Qaheetee related them both in his works.
And the intent behind the "generality (of the people)", is the generality of the people of knowledge, as we explained in the biography of Yazeed bin Haaroon, the Imaam of the people of Waasit. And Al-Qa'nabee was from the Imaams of guidance, until some of the Huffaadh exaggerated in him and made him superior to Maalik [bin Anas], the Imaam. He (Al-Qa'nabee) died in 221H at some eighty odd years of age, and he is the greatest of the Shaykhs of Muslim [the compiler of hadeeth], absolutely.
Source: "Mukhtasar al-Uluww" of adh-Dhahabi (p. 178).
@@thewolf1801
'Amr bin Tamim al-Makki said: I heard Muhammad bin Isma'il al-Tirmidhi [who] said: I heard al-Muzanee saying, "The Tawhid of any [person] is not valid, sound until he knows that Allaah the Exalted is over His Throne, with His attributes." I said to him, "Like what?" He said, "Hearing, seeing, knowing."
Refer also to the statement of al-Muzanee as found in his book Sharh al-Sunnah (see here) where he affirms Allaah is above the Throne, bi dhatihi(with His essence).
00:49 wait , what? The vast majority of scholars after the 8th century was opposed to Ibn Taymiya's understanding of 'aqeedah? lol which scholars?
The vast majority.
Ibn Taimiyyah are the Musyabihah and opposed the vast majority of Scholar even slandering Ijma' of Ummah. You Wahhabis only 5% in the world.
@@boejiden.1445
So many of the most popular scholars approved Ibn Taymiyyah. Adh Dhahabi, Ibn Hajar Al Asqalani, Ibn Kathir, Al Mizzi, Ibn Daqiq Al Eid, As Subki, Al Suyuti, Badr Al Din Al Ayn, Ibn Rajab, Ibn Qayyim and more
@@far.e3061 You are wrong...
Imam Jalal al-Din al-Suyuti (D. 911AH) on ibn Taymiyya:
“ibn Taymiyya was arrogant. He was self-conceited. It was his habit to represent himself as superior to everybody, to slight the person whom he talked to, and to make fun of great Muslims”
[al-Suyuti, Kam’ al-Mu’arid]
@@far.e3061 Sheikh ul Islam Imam al- Subki said: It should be known that Tawassul, "ASKING FOR HELP" and intercession through the Prophet (Peace be upon him) in the court of Allah is not only allowed but is "RECOMMENDED" It being Legal and recommended is a known fact for everyone who has understanding of deen, this is a deed of Prophets/Messengers, the salaf-as-Saliheen, the Ulama and general public of Muslims, none of them denied it nor in any time these deeds were called as bad except for when Ibn Taymiyyah (came in picture) and he started to reject them, his sayings made the weak get into confusion/dilemma, he did such a Bidah which nobody before him had done... [Imam Taqi ud din as-Subki - Rahimuhulllah in his magnificent work called Shifa us Siqaam fi Ziyaratil Khayr il Anaam, Page No. 357]
Allah is with the jummm3ah doesn’t mean with the most, Sufi trying to change the meaning, he will also deny Allahs attributes that he gave himself in the Quran
Allahu'Akbar....
Since last couple of days I was thinking the same thing he said in last couple of seconds.
اللهم صل وسلم على سيدنا ومولانا محمد عبدك ورسولك النبي الأمي وعلى آله وصحبه وسلم
Alhamdulilah I’ll take the first 8 centuries over the latter 8
The Sheikh of Islam Ibn Taymiyyah assumed a great position and a high rank among scholars, even with those who opposed him in the madhhab and methodology, due to his knowledge of the Qur’an and the Sunnah, and his following of them, and his expansion in the transmitted and reasonable, and his following the doctrine of the righteous predecessors, and his intelligence and speed of comprehension, and here are some of the sayings of the scholars on that. Sheikh Al-Hafiz Abu Al-Fath Bin Sayed Al-Nass said: ((He almost understands the Sunan and the Traditions by memorizing. He is greater than his bee in that, nor is he higher than his knowledge, he excelled in every art over his kind, and no eye has seen someone like him, nor has his eye seen like himself. From the spring of his bounty in Rawda and Ghadeer.” Al-Hafiz Abu Al-Hajjaj Al-Mazi said: “I have not seen the like of him, nor has he seen the like of himself, and I have not seen anyone who is more knowledgeable about the Book of God and the Sunnah of His Messenger, and I do not follow them more than him.” Al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar said in Al-Durar Al-Latin: ((He looked at men and their causes, he learned his knowledge, he excelled, he distinguished, he advanced, he classified, he taught, he gave fatwas, he surpassed his peers, and he became a wonder at the speed of God. Invocation, the power of the heavens, the expansion of the transmitted and the reasonable, and the prolongation of the doctrines of the predecessors and the successors) Sheikh Kamal Al-Din bin Al-Zamalkani also wrote in his handwriting on the book “Removing the blame from the imams the flags”, the text of which is “The authorship of Sheikh Imam Al-Alam, the only scholar, the hafiz, the diligent, the ascetic, the ascetic, the worshiper, the example, the Imam of the imams, the example of the nation, a sign. The scholars, the inheritors of the prophets, the last of the mujtahids, the one of the religious scholars, the blessing of Islam, the argument of the media, the proof of the theologians, the suppressor of innovators, the resurrection of the Sunnah, and the one whom you magnify for God’s favor upon us, and you made it against his enemies the argument, and whose blessing and his gift became clear, the argument, Taqi al-Din Abu al-Abbas Ahmed bin Abdul Halim bin Abd al-Salam bin Taymiyyah al-Harrani, the highest of God is his beacon And it was built with it from the pillars of religion. Imam Ibn Abd al-Hadi mentioned in the contracts a story about the Sheikh of Islam, which is: that some of the sheikhs of scholars in Aleppo came to Damascus, and he said: I heard in the country about a boy called: Ahmed bin Taymiyyah, and that he is quick to memorize, and I came with a purpose; Perhaps I will see him, and a tailor said to him: This is the path of his scribes, and he has not yet come, so sit with us when he comes, he crosses over us, going to the book, so the Sheikh Al-Halabi sat for a while, and two boys passed by. The tailor said to al-Halabi: This is the boy who has the large tablet, he is Ahmed bin Taymiyyah, so the sheikh called him, so he came to him. Ten hadiths, and he said to him: Read this, so he did not exceed that you contemplate it once after writing it, then he pushed it to him, and said: Hear it to me. He chose her, then said: Read this, and he looked at it as he did the first time, so the sheikh got up and said: If this boy lived, he would have a great position. The scholar Ibn Al-Najjar, may God Almighty have mercy on him, said: Ibn Taymiyyah, may God Almighty have mercy on him.” The scholar Marei bin Yusuf Al-Karmi Al-Hanbali wrote a book on the virtues of Sheikh Al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah, and he called it “Al-Kawwab Al-Duriya min Munaqib Al-Mujtahid Ibn Taymiyyah” chosen from the book “Al-Aqd Al-Duriya” by Ibn Abd al-Hadi, and the Attic Flags, by Abu Hafs Omar Ibn Taymiyyah. Ali Al-Bazzar, and the translation of Sheikh Al-Islam from the book “The Paths of the Eyes in the Kingdoms of Al-Amsar” by Shihab Al-Din Ahmed bin Al-Qadi Muhyi al-Din al-Omri al-Shafi’i, and it was from what he said, may God Almighty have mercy on him: And after these are nice benefits, and honorable merits from the virtues of the Sheikh of Islam and Bahr al-Ulum, and the Mufti of Difference, the mujtahid Taqi al-Din Ibn Taymiyyah… Imam al-Dhahabi said: ((He was a verse in intelligence and speed of perception, straight in Knowing the Book, the Sunnah, and differences, by sea in transmissions, is unique in his time in knowledge, asceticism, courage and generosity, enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong, a large number of compilations, and he read and obtained, excelled in hadith and jurisprudence, and qualified for teaching and fatwas when he was seventeen years old, and advanced in the science of interpretation. And the fundamentals, and all the sciences of Islam: their origins, their branches, their subtleties and all, except for the science of readings. If the interpretation is mentioned, then it bears its banner, and if the jurists are counted, then he is their absolute diligent, and if the preservers are present, they are pronounced and silenced, and narrate and become obsolete, and become wealthy and bankrupt, ... and he has a great hand in knowledge of Arabic, morphology and language, and he is greater than my words describe him, or he alerts my pen. His biography, his knowledge, his knowledge, his tribulations and his movements are likely to be studded in two volumes, and he is a human being who has sins, so God Almighty will forgive him and make him dwell in the highest heaven, for he was the god of the nation, the unique of time, the standard bearer of Sharia, and the owner of the dilemmas of Muslims, and he was a leader in science. He exaggerates in exaggerating his standing in the field of truth, jihad, and enjoining good and forbidding evil, exaggerating what I have seen, nor seen by anyone, nor by a jurist.”
He was a Murtad pagan. Hence his execution
@@wahabinajdislayer2487 You need to shut up when grownup's are talking.
@@coldmow Says the one whos subscribed to Adam Salah and Pewdiepie. I rest my case
@@wahabinajdislayer2487 No you don't, you don't know the complex Sabab(reason) for any of my wise actions, you boy. I'm not really trying to call you names but someone needs to educate you on manners. When there is someone speaking about tangible wise evidences, you need to shut up and listen. Before you burn yourself. But you're not really my responsibility, so I'm just saying...
And b.t.w, the reason I'm subscribed to pewdiepie, is because he's an influencer. And a good Muslim must keep conscious with the changes in the world. And Adam Saleh, I don't look at much of his content but found him respectable since he can be critical about himself to speak with those who he initially thought were his enemies (Ali Dawah). He "lowered his wing with the believers" as Allah swt taught us..
Learn boy, learn. You can learn a lot. 😄
@@coldmow Maybe look to our channel, then youl realise its actually you who is the little boy. Seems like youv spend your time with UA-camrs and have not sat at the feet of proper scholars of the Ahle sunnah wa al jamaat. Hence you taking role models like Adam Saleh and the likes. Educate yourself from a proper sheikh and watch where you take your deen from.
So what is the problem of Ibn Taymiyyah? What mistakes did he make?
He was good, don't worry
@@anokata9929 I just like to know what people talk about when they talk about people. I mean what use does it have when you talk trash about a person without giving any evidence. What do *I* gain from that?? What is he *actually* saying???
Teachnically nothing at all except making the people be aware that he is capable in talking trash about a person. Was that Hamza Yusuf's goal. I mean it doesn't fulfill any positive goal I know The Prophet saws taught... like "Lower your wings to your brothers...".
Wallahi it's sad to see brothers and sisters that were honored by Allah to discover His Religion, only to feed their haughtiness.
It's extremely filthy and ugly... That's all I have to recognize from all of this....
@@coldmow Ibn Tamiyya was named as Sheikul Islam by many many scholars. They hate him, because he says what the Salaf said and what Allah says in the Quran. For example that Allah is above us and not everywhere or nowhere. They will hate you for that phrase and will call you a Non-Muslime, while the Hadith and Verses cleary states that Allah is above the 7 heavens, above his throne. However this belief doesn't fit with their philosophical belief. Ibn Taymiyya refuted them and said we should only folliw what the prophet and sahaba said. We shouldn't use philosophy regarding Allah his attributes. That's why they hate him.
@@anokata9929 They are truly misguided when they take as guidance other than what The Prophet of God taught us in great emphasis. They put their ego's(their pathetic minds) above the command of Allah when He Said: "hear and obey". That is because Allah swt is testing them with lack of understanding, which they can't accept from themselves and which makes them toil around forever in their own failures, thinking that they make progress, failing to succeed in patience which was the first step in understanding what they are seeking after all this time. Would they have shown patience and eagerness, Allah swt would have opened the door to the wisdom and understanding they were looking for. But they continuously fail and fail... So Allah swt makes them dumber and dumber, while their ego's get bigger and bigger...
Wallahi, it is truly PATHETIC and sad... And loathful. I hate their creed. As every believer would...
@@coldmow ibn tayimmah followed the salaf, and didn't blindly follow scholars
Ibn Taymiyyah the Sufi Sheikh
Further corroboration of two links separating him from 'Abdul Qadir Jilani comes from Ibn Taymiyya himself, as quoted in a manuscript of the work al-Mas'ala at-Tabriziyya (manuscript, Damascus, 1186 H):
"labistu al-khirqata mubarakata lish-Shaikh 'Abdul Qadir wa bayni wa baynahu 'than"
"I wore the blessed Sufi cloak of 'Abdul Qadir, there being between him and me two."
Ibn Taymiyya is quoted by Yusuf ibn 'Abd al-Hadi, affirming his Sufi affiliation in more than one Sufi order:
"have worn the Sufi cloak [khirqata at-Tasawwuf] of a number of shaikhs belonging to various tariqas [min turuqi jama'atin min ash-shuyukhi] , among them the Shaikh 'Abdul Qadir al-Jili, whose tariqa is the greatest of the well-known ones."
Further on he continues: "The greatest tariqa [ajallu-t-turuqi] is that of my master [sayyidi], 'Abdul Qadir al-Jili, may Allah have mercy on him."
What Ibn Taymiyya Says About the Term `Tasawwuf'
Here we will mention what Imam Ibn Taymiyya, mentioned about the definition of Tasawwuf, from Volume 11,"At-Tawassuf" of "Majmu'a Fatawa Ibn Taymiyya al-Kubra," Dar ar-Rahmah, Cairo,
"Alhamdulillah, the pronunciation of the word Tasawwuf has been thoroughly discussed. From those who spoke about Tasawwuf were not just the the Imams and Shaikhs, but also included were Ahmad bin Hanbal, Abi Sulayman ad-Daarani, As-Sirr as-Saqati, al-Junayd al-Baghdadi, Hasan al-Basri, Ma'aruf al-Karkhi, Abdul Qadir Jilani, Bayazid al-Bistami [one of the grandshaikhs of the Naqshbandi Tariqat] and many others. This is a term that was given to those who were dealing with that kind of science [tazkiyyat an-nafs and Ihsan]."
Imam Ibn Taymiyya says:
"Tassawuf has realities and states of experience which they talk about in their science. Some of it is that the Sufi is that one who purifies himself from anything which distracts him from the remembrance of Allah and who will be so filled up with knowledge of the heart and knowledge of the mind to the point that the value of gold and stones will be the same to him. And Tasawwuf is safeguarding the precious meanings and leaving behind the call to fame and vanity in order to reach the state of Truthfulness, because the best of humans after the prophets are the Siddiqeen, as Allah mentioned them in the verse:
'(And all who obey God and the Apostle) are in the company of those on whom is the grace of Allah: of the prophets, the sincere lovers of truth, the martyrs and the righteous; Ah! what a beautiful fellowship.'"
(an-Nisa', 69,70)
Ibn Taymiyya continues:
"as-Sufi hua fil-haqiqa naw'un min as-siddiqeen. Fahua as-siddiq alladhee ikhtassa bil-zuhadiwal-'ibada."
which translates:
"And the Sufi is in reality a kind of Siddiq (Truthful One), that Siddiq who specialized in zuhd and worship."
He continues about the Sufis,
"some people criticised Sufiyya and Tasawwuf and they said they were innovators, out of the Sunnah, but the truth is they are striving in Allah's obedience[mujtahidin fi ta'at-illahi], as others of Allah's People strove in Allah's obedience. So from them you will find the Foremost in Nearness by virtue of his striving [as-saabiq ul-muqarrab bi hasab ijtihadihi]. And some of them are from the People of the Right hand [Ahl al-Yameen mentioned in Qur'an in Sura Waqi'ah], but slower in their progress. For both kinds, they might make ijtihad and in that case they might be correct and they might be wrong. And from both types, some of them might make a sin and repent. And this is the origin of Tasawwuf. And after that origin, it has been spread and (tasha'abat wa tanawa'at) has its main line and its branches. And it has become three kinds:
1. Sufiyyat il-Haqa'iq - the True Sufis
2. Sufiyyat il-Arzaaq - the Professional Sufis (those who use Sufism for personal gain)
3. Sufiyyat il-Rasm - the Caricature Sufis. (Sufi by appearance only)."
www.sunnah.org/tasawwuf/tasawwuf_taymiyya.html
Do u actually read the transcribed Arabic (the arabic written in English)?
The Sheikh of Islam Ibn Taymiyyah assumed a great position and a high rank among scholars, even with those who opposed him in the madhhab and methodology, due to his knowledge of the Qur’an and the Sunnah, and his following of them, and his expansion in the transmitted and reasonable, and his following the doctrine of the righteous predecessors, and his intelligence and speed of comprehension, and here are some of the sayings of the scholars on that. Sheikh Al-Hafiz Abu Al-Fath Bin Sayed Al-Nass said: ((He almost understands the Sunan and the Traditions by memorizing. He is greater than his bee in that, nor is he higher than his knowledge, he excelled in every art over his kind, and no eye has seen someone like him, nor has his eye seen like himself. From the spring of his bounty in Rawda and Ghadeer.” Al-Hafiz Abu Al-Hajjaj Al-Mazi said: “I have not seen the like of him, nor has he seen the like of himself, and I have not seen anyone who is more knowledgeable about the Book of God and the Sunnah of His Messenger, and I do not follow them more than him.” Al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar said in Al-Durar Al-Latin: ((He looked at men and their causes, he learned his knowledge, he excelled, he distinguished, he advanced, he classified, he taught, he gave fatwas, he surpassed his peers, and he became a wonder at the speed of God. Invocation, the power of the heavens, the expansion of the transmitted and the reasonable, and the prolongation of the doctrines of the predecessors and the successors) Sheikh Kamal Al-Din bin Al-Zamalkani also wrote in his handwriting on the book “Removing the blame from the imams the flags”, the text of which is “The authorship of Sheikh Imam Al-Alam, the only scholar, the hafiz, the diligent, the ascetic, the ascetic, the worshiper, the example, the Imam of the imams, the example of the nation, a sign. The scholars, the inheritors of the prophets, the last of the mujtahids, the one of the religious scholars, the blessing of Islam, the argument of the media, the proof of the theologians, the suppressor of innovators, the resurrection of the Sunnah, and the one whom you magnify for God’s favor upon us, and you made it against his enemies the argument, and whose blessing and his gift became clear, the argument, Taqi al-Din Abu al-Abbas Ahmed bin Abdul Halim bin Abd al-Salam bin Taymiyyah al-Harrani, the highest of God is his beacon And it was built with it from the pillars of religion. Imam Ibn Abd al-Hadi mentioned in the contracts a story about the Sheikh of Islam, which is: that some of the sheikhs of scholars in Aleppo came to Damascus, and he said: I heard in the country about a boy called: Ahmed bin Taymiyyah, and that he is quick to memorize, and I came with a purpose; Perhaps I will see him, and a tailor said to him: This is the path of his scribes, and he has not yet come, so sit with us when he comes, he crosses over us, going to the book, so the Sheikh Al-Halabi sat for a while, and two boys passed by. The tailor said to al-Halabi: This is the boy who has the large tablet, he is Ahmed bin Taymiyyah, so the sheikh called him, so he came to him. Ten hadiths, and he said to him: Read this, so he did not exceed that you contemplate it once after writing it, then he pushed it to him, and said: Hear it to me. He chose her, then said: Read this, and he looked at it as he did the first time, so the sheikh got up and said: If this boy lived, he would have a great position. The scholar Ibn Al-Najjar, may God Almighty have mercy on him, said: Ibn Taymiyyah, may God Almighty have mercy on him.” The scholar Marei bin Yusuf Al-Karmi Al-Hanbali wrote a book on the virtues of Sheikh Al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah, and he called it “Al-Kawwab Al-Duriya min Munaqib Al-Mujtahid Ibn Taymiyyah” chosen from the book “Al-Aqd Al-Duriya” by Ibn Abd al-Hadi, and the Attic Flags, by Abu Hafs Omar Ibn Taymiyyah. Ali Al-Bazzar, and the translation of Sheikh Al-Islam from the book “The Paths of the Eyes in the Kingdoms of Al-Amsar” by Shihab Al-Din Ahmed bin Al-Qadi Muhyi al-Din al-Omri al-Shafi’i, and it was from what he said, may God Almighty have mercy on him: And after these are nice benefits, and honorable merits from the virtues of the Sheikh of Islam and Bahr al-Ulum, and the Mufti of Difference, the mujtahid Taqi al-Din Ibn Taymiyyah… Imam al-Dhahabi said: ((He was a verse in intelligence and speed of perception, straight in Knowing the Book, the Sunnah, and differences, by sea in transmissions, is unique in his time in knowledge, asceticism, courage and generosity, enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong, a large number of compilations, and he read and obtained, excelled in hadith and jurisprudence, and qualified for teaching and fatwas when he was seventeen years old, and advanced in the science of interpretation. And the fundamentals, and all the sciences of Islam: their origins, their branches, their subtleties and all, except for the science of readings. If the interpretation is mentioned, then it bears its banner, and if the jurists are counted, then he is their absolute diligent, and if the preservers are present, they are pronounced and silenced, and narrate and become obsolete, and become wealthy and bankrupt, ... and he has a great hand in knowledge of Arabic, morphology and language, and he is greater than my words describe him, or he alerts my pen. His biography, his knowledge, his knowledge, his tribulations and his movements are likely to be studded in two volumes, and he is a human being who has sins, so God Almighty will forgive him and make him dwell in the highest heaven, for he was the god of the nation, the unique of time, the standard bearer of Sharia, and the owner of the dilemmas of Muslims, and he was a leader in science. He exaggerates in exaggerating his standing in the field of truth, jihad, and enjoining good and forbidding evil, exaggerating what I have seen, nor seen by anyone, nor by a jurist.”
He criticized and refuted sufi practices.
Whoever said ibnu thaimiyya as shaikh al islam will be considered as Khafir - Shakhi Elaaudheen al Bhukhari (RTA)
shaykh hamza yusuf حفظه الله
as far as i love sh hamza yusuf i dont agree this bcz he is object ur aqeedah by ibn taymiyyah has explaination for , his work are all respected in muslim world if has problem no could have respected him . i dont hear critism for ibn taymiyyah sheikh ul islam until now. he is only different madhab doesnt make his his aqeedah
maybe because you are surrounding yourself with the heretic wahhabis, salafis, and khawarij. Sunni scholars disregard ibn taymiyyah due to his erroneous beliefs and statements, and warn people from him and his works.
@@thewolf1801 sorry no one discard ibn taymmiyah he was against all innovation and translating names of allah in their own words and the deviants ones who ashari opposse him . please read history and there is nothing like wahhabi and ur may be againt sh mohammed ibn abdel . he brought tawheed and he was object british so please dont give opinion on ibn taymiyyah and sh mohammed ibn abdel wahab please watch this vid
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@@abdallaomar4673 Ibn Taymiyyah has been refuted countless time. He hold many heretical views and his belief is heretical as well. Sorry to break your bubble but Ibn Taymiyyah and his followers are engrossed in Bidah. The Asharis and Maturdies are Ahlul Sunnah not you foolish Mujasim. Ibn Abdul Wahhab was trained by a british agent in Basra fool.
@@thewolf1801 ibn taymiyah is giant of scholar and his time they were people who joined philosophy and Islam and he refuted them he didn't refute the sahaba he didn't invent anything . So go read his works stop following pple opinions
@@abdallaomar4673 you are an ignorant fool. First learn how to spell correctly then speak on such matters. You obviously have no knowledge with regards to your own cult that is why you are engrossed in it. Ibn Taymiyya was refuted and imprisoned in his own times due to his heretical views, and after he died he was still refuted and disregarded. Only when the wahhabis emerged in Najd did his works become widely spread, with an agenda of course. There are many statements in his works which are heretical and disbelief, one such being where he equates Allah SWT with the creation, which he was not shy in the least to do. If you are content with following such heretics it is your choice, but you hold your soul lightly. Good day.
Alhamdulillah. As long as no one will teach me that it is ok to worship the pious dead scholar or will consider them as a Saints
Wake up before Saudis demolish the green dome and wipe out the remaining muslim heritage.
You can have your opinion, but the traditional muslim world will continue to love awliya'ullah.
Atleast have hubburrasool!
Don't support the ones who want to dig the blessed grave, asthaghfirullah!!
@@Sheen023 I am completely awake. We cannot follow human tradition . Except the teaching of Allah that whoever worship to others other than Allah and die from will be in Jahannum eternally
@@mt817 you're being deluded, just like the followers of ISIS.
If you feel like following a cult that wants to dig out the blessed body from the blessed grave (asthaghfirullah!!) and demolish the beloved green dome, it's up to you. But beware of being held accountable for the blood of Muslims they shed even inside the blessed Haram.
@@mt817 ??
I heard from Mufti Tariq Masood that taqlid isn't permissible in aqeeda
no deobandi are themselves muqalid of aqeedah if Abu Al Hassan ashari and Abu Mansur Al maturidi
Poison with sugar coat are his words
Who? Hamza Yusuf or Sheikh ibn taymiyaah?
may Allah guide or destroy this zindeeq
If one person is right out of everyone.. he is the jamaah
lol
Hamza Yusuf seems lost on what islam is. We dont follow ibn taymiyya we follow the prophet and the sahaba. If ibn taymiyya makes a mistake we dont follow him in it. Like imam malik said "everyone is to be taken from and not taken from accept for the man in this grave (meaning the prophet).
So our imam in aqeeda is the prophet and our imam in fiqh is the prophet and our imam in everything is the prophet. Unlike the sufi's and the ashari's and any other sect which has strayed from the way of the prophet.
good stuff, however I’m just still not clear on the Mawlid
Taqleed has its necessity. 99.9999% or more of Muslims are not trained scholars. 80% do not even understand the Arabic language. So Muslims need to learn how to pray , how to fast, how to do the hajj or umrah, how to calculate zakat, how to recite the Qur'aan i.e. the basics of the deen. Where this talk is slightly flawed is attacking scholars who do not accept ijma or have an 'aqeeda' that is not ashari or muturadi. If Hamza Yusuf had done his research, he would know there has never been any real ijma in the history of Islam. Ijma where there is no nass is even more problematic. As for aqeeda, well the Qur'aan and sunnah do lay down the most obvious principles of the deen. Complicated theology about freewill and predestination are not the things the lay Muslim will ever be asked about on the day of judgment. Lets not forget in the course of time many schools of thought have appeared. Imam Tabari had his own legal school, the zaheeri school was dominant in Spain and North Africa for a few centuries. Does Hamza Yusuf really believe that Imam Tabari and Ibn Hazm or Ibn Taymiyah were not some of the most outstanding scholars of Islam?
whats your point? I dont understand where you stand? in relation to your last question, ive listened to many HY lectures and he speaks very highly of Ibn Taymiyyah actually. Even to the point where he explained how some of his teachers warned him about Ibn Taymiyyah but hes done his own research and yes, speaks very highly of him. Even explains how Ibn Taymiyyah in his later years retracted his refutations against the muttasawwifaat (sufis). Anyway, assalaamualaikum.
@@SherazH1 I explained it in my comment. Taqleed outside the basics of the deen has no basis for the lives of Muslims in the 21st century. I note Sheikh Hamza in all his 'talks' has never discussed wy nearly every legal injuction in the Qur'aan or an authentic ahadith is always given as a general. You need to research what a 'general principle' is in Islamic law and then you will realise when Sheikh Hamza bangs the heads of Muslims with his talks about books of fiqh what a waste of time it really is.
No one denies taqleed, they are against Ta3assub. You are being unfair in the way your confusing newbies اعدل يا حمزة
Shaykh was making a fair point about following proper authorities instead of "self taught" folks that are popping up more and more. However, he just couldn't help himself and inserted that whole "Ibn Taymiyyah's aqeedah was suspect" idea. Sure, he didn't come out and say the word but he certainly insinuated it. Was there need for it? Nope. Is there anyone sensible left? Nope.
He spoke the truth, some of the biggest scholars of Ahlu sunnah spoke vehemently against ibn Taymiyah, take Imam taqiyadin as subki for example, he wrote very critically about ibn Taymiyah and even went so far as to say that "he dressed words in such a way that he deceived the weak in knowledge and faith and introduced innovation that previous Muslims didn't hold" -
شـفـاء الـسـقـام 357p
"حتى جاء ابن تيمية ؛ فَتكلَّم في ذلك بكلام يُلَبِّسُ فيه على الضعفاء الأغمار ، وابتدع ما لم يُسبق إليه في سائر الأعصار"
@@AlexJones-stratfor-connection if I wait a little longer, a fuck will fall into my hand and I can give it to you
@@AlexJones-stratfor-connection ibn Taymiyyah may Allah have mercy on his soul did not deceive anyone. wheres your evidence for your claim and what did he deceive people in?
@@weshouldsaveourselves6780 read again, I didn't say he deceived, imam taqiyadin al Subki said so.
He is right all Wahabis are brainless idiots and like monkeys almost
They were all wrong because they opposed al-Salaf. Over.
You understanded كونو مع الجماعة wrongly
Did you read (وان تتبع اكثر من في الارض يضلوك عن سبيل الله )
Ibn taimiyah wanted to be like salf alssalih(القرون الثلاث) so he did not invent a new way
نحسبه كذالك والله حسيبه
Some of his understanding and beliefs in aqidaah are not found in the teachings of salaf as saliheen. And he thought he was mujtahid imam who could make his own rulings so he many times went against the teachings and understanding of salaf
@@islamnnuru6920 So you want me to tell philsophy is the understanding and belief of the prophet & sahaba? 💀💀💀 Allah is above his throne, Alhamdullilah ☝🏻
@@anokata9929 You take everything literally don't you ? Then How are you gonna explain these verses : He is with you wherever you are (54:7)
Everything will be destroyed except His face (28:88) If you interpret these verses then it means you can interpret all other verses too. If you don't interpret then you have to believe Allah is everywhere and Everything will be destroyed including His hands and other organs you salafi attributes to Allah except Allah's face. Brother you have been lied by literalists, mujassima people. Every language has metaphors in it and it doesn't mean you use philosophy. This is a common even for the language that are associated with poetry which Quranic language is exactly like that. We don't take the literal meaning of those verse. Allah doesn't sit on the throne literally. We believe in it without giving any meaning or we interpret it in a way that is acceptable. Imam Abu Hanifa says to those who take the literal meaning of the throne that then Where would Allah been before creating the throne ? This Question is asked by him. For other verse Imam Bukhari says face means mulk-dominion of Allah, everything will be destroyed except the dominion of Allah whichever is willed to be not destroyed by Allah. This is way of salaf. It has nothing to do with philosophy. This is how languages are used. You either accept this or you believe that Allah's organs will be destroyed except his face and He is everywhere when you take the literal meaning of the other verse. See the problems when you dont interpret these words
@@islamnnuru6920 Oh man, it's a waste of time to discuss with you. You are probably Maturidi. Waste of time to discuss. You even don't know that we do Ta'weel Sahih. Also look at the Aqeedah of the Mu'tazila. They were the first to change the meaning of yad , istawa etc. You are a Mu'tazila and Jahmi because both of them didn't confirm that Allah is above his throne or has two hands. Sadly you are blind following Philosophy. Imam Bukhari did not say that in Surah Ar Rahman, where Allah said face, that this means dominion. He meant a Hadith and it was a different context, Jahil. Allah is above his throne but everywhere with his wisdom. That's also what Sheikh Ibnul Mubarak says in his Tafseer book. He learnt from Imam Abu Hanifa, Imam Malik and Sufyan at Thauri. Try to watch the Aqeedah Poem of Abu Dawuud (Student of Imam Ahmad) You have Jahmiyya Aqeedah. Just watch it and tell me if you believe in it. If you don't believe in it, then you have a wrong Aqeedah
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Subhan Allah
How can I consider someone my Iman if I haven't met him nor did he ever saw me?
If someone is teaching me directly the text of previous Imam then the one who is teaching is my Imam not the one who has passed away. If I'm learning from a book, then it's not the knowledge of deen. I have to be taught by someone who has knowledge and his knowledge also goes back to Prophet with the chain of teachers. So after all these, now j have knowledge, ilm, so where comes the blind following (taqlid)?
Really? And how do u know the person teaching you is accurate in what he's saying?
And salafi have shains, shains aren't exclusive to sufis brother 😄
Nonsense. We can't be muqalid
The understanding of the companions u misguided person.smh
Arrogant najdi
If the majority became salafi so that means you will be become salafi wow where goes your intelligence my brother
Have you considered the Hadith “my ummah will never agree on misguidance”?
@@MotorStorm66 that 'hadith means scholar's not fool's like u 🤣
@@MotorStorm66 prophet Muhammad salllah alai wasalam said
“Islam began as a something strange and it will return to being strange..
@@NK236 in particular, it starts with the majority of the Mujtahidoon, of which were Ashari, then Maturidi and then Athari, of which you'd consider are all part of the Ahlus Sunnah? Though they differ slightly
@@NK236 which scholar? Mostly they are Ashari wal Maturidi
For more context, spend a bit of time on basic literacy around this subject. A solid convenient summary here:
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Subhan'allah SHY, love your style/rational of speech!
Hamza Yusuf updated his views on ibn Taymiyyah and he even said his teachers were too harsh.
If you want to listen to something to get just a flavour of the life of Ibn Taymiyyah رحمه الله - I suggest this talk:
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Sufis like this guy try to make everything in Islam about knowledge - who is your sheik for this knowledge and who is your sheik for that knowledge? The religion of Islam is complete, Quran and sunnah do hold its meaning and it is not necessary to delve so much into knowledge for the sake of knowledge as the Quran warns of this and how it led the Jews astray. Sure seek knowledge and seek mastery of your religion, but this process is not as complicated as have an imam for this and have an imam for that - that is what someone who is trying to complicate and reduce Islam to knowledge says - but Islam is more than mere knowledge - it is haq - simply. The messenger of Allah pbuh did not say the majority of scholars are the majority of Muslims who would not be united in error, this was a reference to the ummah at large so what this guy is saying against Imam Qayyim may Allah be pleased with him is a fabricated lie. Rather, if this liar spoke more about Imam Ibn Qayyim than the brief lie he spoke then he would expose himself, and so he spoke this little lie and then spent the rest of the time talking about Turks putting buttons on different sides of a shirt and calling it sunnah - these Turks he is talking about follow the Sufi religion he follows - and yes we Muslims laugh at you too
The things he says about Ibn Taymiyyah are true for Al Ghazali as well, Al Ghazali was criticized by the majority of scholars for his improper Aqeedah. And his book ''Ihya Ulum ad Din'' is filled with weak and fabricated Hadith. So I would like some humility from Hamza Yusuf who idolizes Al Ghazali.
Weak and fabricated according to al albani and other salafis, not according to salaf imams. Those who say this narration is weak or fabricated that your understanding is weak and fabricated that you dont understand true ulema
Al-Ghazali was criticized by the Majority of the Scholar, show me proof. It's the reversed brother, Ibnu Taimiyyah is the one criticized by vast of majoritiy
Every time I listen to him I can't help but to cringe...
The laughs, the changing of subject and deviating from the subject.
He remind me of conspiracy artist
I love u for knowledge and being with majority can be dangerous too* majority is non Muslims tho
Majority means majority out of Ummah, as a hadith states that the majority of my ummah will always be upon truth.
@@JEEADVANCED-nj6kw you're lying. Or you just don't know. Not majority. The whole of ummah will not agree upon misguidance.
Laughing like that and having that point of view of The Great Imam!? Smells too much sufi (softness towards the enemies)
What year did ibn taymiyyah come after the prophet.....
The great Shatan *
I don't know that sufi mean softness to enemies while Salafi one more soft as Petro-Islam with the Western the most nowadays!
He is a Sufi who works for the western imperialism.
Salafis have done so much more for Western imperialism.
@@unnanointedonesufi hhhh
Why should i or anyone else believe you instead of Sheikh Hamza
Lol
Wahhabi musyabihah wal-munafiquun
Prophet said be with majority?! lol so the majority of people in the world dont believe in God shall we be in majority?! that is the problem of Sunni mind.. they say only ISIS, AL Qaeda misinterpret Islam. but he is sitting in US and still read it purely textual and leave his head in bedroom and switch of his intellectual.. ISIS says in Quran it says kill none believers.. so we are killing ! textual this stupid sheikh also read text without knowing the contexts.
be with the majority of the Muslims, dont be square headed
The Wolf exactly some people just want to act stupid.
Huh? Ur not even being honest with your wn self.
The majority of muslims. Not the majority of the world. You apply a verse that is meant for the disbeliever. And indeed the majority of the humanity ia misguided and the majority of muslims is guided and on the straight path as they are called in the Quran the best nation
@@islamnnuru6920 At-Tirmidhi (2167) narrated from Ibn ‘Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “Allah will not cause my ummah to agree on falsehood; the hand of Allah is with the jamaa‘ah (the main body of the Muslims).” Classed as hasan by al-Albaani.
Abu ‘Eesa at-Tirmidhi said in his Sunan: What is meant by the jamaa‘ah (the main body of the Muslims), according to the scholars, is the scholars of fiqh, knowledge and hadith.
Al-Mulla ‘Ali al-Qaari said: The hadith indicates that if the Muslims unanimously agree on something, then it must be true, and what is meant is the unanimous agreement of the scholars. The consensus of the common folk does not carry any weight, because it is not based on knowledge.
This so call Shiekh is in favors of homosexuals,,, what he’s gonna teach anyone about scholars of Deen ul Haqq...
Who's this man..claims to be siunni but ahlol bid'a..obviously delusional he is laughing hahaa
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F taymiha
Con artist i
He is a sufi speaker with aqeedah of worshipping graves calling waseela or may be an jewsih agent
Naudhubillah, do not ascribe illegitimate stuff on his collar, he does not believe in grave worship. Every Sufi is not a grave worshippper.
You can speak when u have half of his knowledge, poor guy
According all 4 madhabs tawassul is permissible and even in shafii and hanbali its recommended. İn other words You are calling salaf grave worshippers cos the people you follow did not understand the religion and misinterpreted things even tho they claim they follow salaf as saliheen which is a fake claim in reality.
May Allah ta"ala guide the mushabbiyah nd mujasimah or destroy them all.alsunna.org