The Multirole Fighter Britain and Sweden NEEDED! - JAS39C/A - War Thunder
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- Опубліковано 15 тра 2024
- The JAS39C/A is a solid multirole fighter that Britain and Sweden NEEDED to buff their fairly poor CAS abilities at top tier, and what a way to enhance those lineups!
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00:00 - What are it's CAS Abilities?
05:12 - Where we left off..
09:24 - Urban is NOT Ideal
12:04 - Sorry Grandpa...
14:34 - Can't touch this!
17:29 - Anti-Cas Duties!
19:49 - Beautiful sights..
24:34 - All moral support
27:49 - Give it to me straight, doc!
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Good to have a plane to aim for as I was starting to loose faith in the British tech tree. Currently suffering with a non spaded Squadron Harrier.
You can always aim to the future tornado and also the Indian stuff
the Harrier GR.7 is pretty insane for CAS.
lose*
The sea harrier is one of the best grinders in the game lol. No way you were suffering in that surely
@@dangaming1563the tornados are currently disappointing and I doubt the newer ones will change much
Justin the reason you hit that Roland outside of track range is the GBU-24 has inertial guidance. It will continue to track the last know location till impact. So as long as the target doesn’t move it will still hit.
Whereas the GBU-10’s, 12’s and the 16’s will just lose it the moment you break track and assumes a dumb bomb trajectory.
So typically when I use guided bombs I try to use the GBU-24’s for the anti air then use whatever I have left for tanks since you don’t have to evade tanks. (Unless it’s a 2S38 which you likely won’t know is shooting at you until it hits you)
The only difference between the two Gripens in game is that the Gripen A gets AGM-65As, and the Gripen C gets AGM-65Bs
Yeah Gaijin was super lazy on the Gripen C. It has an expanded armory of PGMs and air to air missiles. I know AMRAAMs aren't in the game (yet) but the IRIS-T was operational before the JAS39C and it is compatible as a unique IR missile. It should also have something more than just the Skyflash. AIM-7M at least. I don't think South Africa ever even used Sparrows on their JAS39s since they were obsolete by the time they took delivery in 2006. Instead Gaijin just did another copy paste job.
the IRIS-T is a 360° HMD 120G unflareable missile that has like 15km lock range and 30km aerodynamic range @@TheSlovenlyTactician
the game is not ready for it or any other super modern IR AAMs like the Python 5/MICA IR/AIM-9X Block II or III
@@dratsfoiledagain243 It's 25km* (citation needed) at altitude under ideal conditions against non maneuvering targets. On the deck where the game takes place 99% of the time it won't go much further than an AIM-9.
And no the game isn't ready for missiles like that but that's what the specific SAAF Gripen C used until the A-Darter came out so if Gaijin doesn't want those weapons in the game they shouldn't be adding modern jets from 2008.
@@TheSlovenlyTactician The Gripen only used true BVR missiles, so not something like the aim-7s, more like the aim-120s
Right that's what I assumed but I didn't know for sure if the specific SAAF Gripen C that's in the game used them as interim solutions between the R-Darter being retired and Martin BVR missiles entering service with the SAAF. I'm 99% sure they didn't tho since the Skyflash is just an AIM-7E2 which is ancient as far as missiles go.@@BufferThunder
To dodge the Aim-9M's, you have to spam the flare key and dodge while it's tracking because the seeker head turns off. The missile then predicts your future position while the seeker head is off, which is why a few flares do nothing against them
Regarding the missile callouts/Fox codes:
Fox 1 is used for SARH missiles, such as Aim-7. Radar missiles dependant on a direct radar lock from the jet firing them.
Fox 2 is for IR guided missiles, such as Aim-9.
Fox 3 is for entirely independent radar missiles, such as the Phoenix.
FYI The figure on the fin is a Grip. Saab/Scania's logo animal. Where the name Gripen came from... "The Grip"
AFIK & FYI, 'Gripen' translates to 'The Gryphon'(or The Griffin/The Griffon) or if its a verb 'Arrested'/'caught' And 'Draken' -translates to the dragon or the kite. 'Viggen' translates to the bolt (thunderbolt) or the tufted duck. 'En Grip' ='one Gryphon'
This is a great example of why you should play the Swedish Grippen, cus you'll actually have good teams and good tanks to back you up
nice video as always love to see some more air time in ground rb
The sad part is, the Tornado was solely build for groundpounding and killing ships and GJ botched it. The tornado is able to fly 50m above ground and has a autopilot for it. I´m happy that UK got a good cas, but the tornado in real life should do the job aswell.
The funnest and sneakiest way to turn off the radar in the Gripen is to put it in HMD mode then toggle the radar on or off from there. Also, if you’re not using your targeting pod to lock ground targets make sure you point it in any direction you want to spot enemies in. It will spot them up to 20km instead of the 8km spotting when you don’t use the pod
Probably one of the best planes in service at the moment. Lovely game play.
Not gonna lie... I love the looks of this beautiful aircraft
The Mig 23's were originally a variable wing fighter. They later got upgraded as fighter bombers but the radars weren't suited. They became the MIg 27 with modified nose code for ground based. So the original had decent maneuverability for its time.
I'm in love with this plane , I never played top tier so much before , is so ez to get kills with and feels so much fun to fly 😁😎
Once again, ZA comes to the British tech tree’s rescue
To be fair, although they have only ever used a couple for training jet's, Britain is actually pretty involved in the development of the Gripen C and above, helping modernise it to NATO standard, providing armament and being an export partner, so it's worked out pretty well that they get one.
Now it just needs an actual radar missile and I will be having a blast
Man I'm excited to use the Swedish one - just have the MiG-21 and JA37D to go before I can start grinding it too
18:08 AIM-9Ms are best dodged by flare dumping and changing course. the long and short is AIM-9Ms switch their IR seeker off if they detect flares and work off inertial guidance (unlike Magic 2s, and R-73s which reduce the Seeker FOV as it closes in on the target) -
so actions on - *AIM-9M fired* are: *Disengage AB* -> *Deploy Flares* (as many as time allows, and ideally in a burst) -> *Manouevre to avoid*, so when the seeker switches back on, it doesn't find you, and the inertial guidance doesn't get it to slam into you.
Beating Su-27s is a matter of not going high and getting close. They really, really, can't dogfight. With a meaningful weapons and fuel load anyway.
good vid buddy, what is that decal under the cockpit? And where can i get it?
Bomb on Roland at 07:50 hit because the gbu24 has inertial guidance, it was gonna hit the point designated by the tgp.
Justin. I know I asked on the last vid. But did you ever make the 8 page document on your research regarding the HSTV-L public. I'd love to read what you had compiled.
The only thing mavericks are decent for now is taking out anti-air and even then they still fail some times, I actually got a non-penetration in a FlakRakRad a few days ago and it's not uncommon to get only critical hits in light vehicles.
Also, I never use gears and I think it should give you a 1 minute repair time.
with game departments, the art department 9/10 times always slap, Like with World of Warships or World of Tanks, their art and graphic teams absolutely go crazy, we all know who is getting paid the most..
Gripen is such a smol plane
in love JAS 39❤❤
Have you made a vid on the XP-50 yet?
Absolute menace to bombers, double 20mm @ 600rpm
23:18 I use gears when im not damaged, if you J out once you're stopped, you insta reload and can take off immediately without waiting for the timer
Gripen when 90’s fox 3 rb99 gets added will be so good
It would be kind of cool if they made props harder to lock with IR missiles as they are inherently difficult due to their extremely low temp compared to a jet exhaust.
I’m pretty sure they already are
They are very difficult to lock with non all aspect ir missile but all aspect missile like the AIM-9M in the video have no difficulties locking a prop from sub 3km which is normal because those kind of missile don't need much heat to lock on and sub 3km is still way closer than the distance they can lock a jet
They are almost impossible to lock with IR missiles already. Do you even War Thunder bro?
Your afterburner looks wzy better than mine, are you using a mod?
2400 lets goo ty
Just asking if you know there is gun lead for aircraft in newer jets when you radar lock ? I'm asking that cuz you used balistic comp for ground when shoting at that SU-25 (around 22min of vid)
Nice video :)
Love the plane
thank you for not using a bomb fuse.
Hey! I was wondering if you could play china top tier ground, and cas if you could! I hope to see this in a future video :)
What's the custom skin your using? That afterburner looks very nice!
why does your afterburner look different? do you have a graphics mod?
23:00 use ACM PD mode for the radar gunsight
What postfx do you use to get that wep fire effect?
could you please do a video on the SU22M3
I’ve been to hell and back with it and still have no idea how to effectively use it 😂
I know how to use it… don’t…
How do you get that anime decal ive noticed it in a couple of vids?
Britain has a tornado, a jaguar and a harrier
Hey justin what's that anime decal on the side of your plane
Btw Justin to dodge missiles
R73: preflare or you just die
Aim9m: flare and sharp turn
Matra magic 2: preflare or you just die
Saw you in mozdok
Video on the VT4?
Idk whag it is but i never get the mach cloud when i go over mach 1
can u play m1a1 i heard it get downranks more often
Justin you need to get the apache mk1. Missing out pretty much the best helicopter in top tier
Really wish the Paveways on the A-6E worked like these but theyre still broken/bugged and i doubt they'll ever be fixed.
I’m about to grind Sweden just to get this. It’ll be a while until the Rafale is introduced, so might as well as grind another tree. Now when is it Japan’s turn though? Despite the fact I’ve been playing a lot of France lately, I main Japan and have completed the entire tree (except naval) and have played the game for quite a while, and yet, I have never used a single guided bomb in my life. That should tell how much the snail screwed Japan over in the CAS department. F-15J with JDAMs when. Or the GCS-1 modification for bombs on the T-2 and F-1.
I use the code Al while ago does it stink count for the give away?
Introduction of most modern aircrafts demands the deployment of mid-long range aa systems who can be deployed behind the front(where tanks are battling with bigger tank maps).I think the systems like buk can move around the map while long range systems like patriot s300/400 should be deployed as stationary systems and is to player to choose where to put them
i think some AI SPAAs shoould spawn on ground RB maps outside the ground battlefield but close to it like on the PVE missions, a mix of guns and missiles AA depending on the BR, that way even if your team didn't spawn any AA yet, the enemy can't act as they want and shit on you, or at least they have to destroy the AA first which gives you another warning
21:40 @JustinPlays since you dont know them let me educate you.
There are three foxes. Fox 1, Fox 2 and Fox 3.
Fox 1 means semi-active radar homing missle launched so for example the aim-7 and r-27(only radar versions) are both fox 1 missles.
Fox 2 means heat seeker so aim-9(only ir guided versions) or r-73.
Fox 3 means active radar homing missle so aim-54 or in the future aim-120.
There is also a fox 4 used for guns but that is not used anymore in the modern era.
Gotta be more specific with the missiles as the R27ET is a heat seeker, the R27R and R27ER are indeed SARH missiles. Also not all AIM-9s are heat seekers, the AIM-9C on the F-8E is a radar guided AIM-9
@@OllieRy321 forgot abt that thanks, ill change it
Wish they buffed the su 27 flight model
I played with him playing the vt-4 I was roguephantom
Im still at 7.0, gripen is my dream jet after
Can we please get an SA tech tree
'I don't know my foxes'
Fox 1: Semi Active Radar Homing (Sparrows, R-27ERs, etc.)
Fox 2: InfraRed (AIM-9s {except the C} and the like)
Fox 3: Active Radar Homing (AIM-54, AIM-120, R-77, etc)
Please play the Mirage 4000 next!
The Mirage 4000 fucking slaps! Can drop bombs at any speed. Only major downside is no HMD which feels pretty rough at 12.3
C gripen has hmd i think
Honestly i get more air kills in grb than arb! Arb is so boring specially the first part flying to the enemies aaaaaaargh!
Btw great video❤
This is so needed for Britain but ngl I prefer my f16c at CAS
while i agree with you, it is so hard to play top USA right now
will this app come to ios?
Bro thought we cant see his sks ak and m4 in the background💀💀
3:00 Iirc, the British export variant gets worse missiles.
Nice video just like your streams and i wanna ask do you wanna do a video with me xP?
How was your Christmas Justin?
What's that decal next to yours Justin??
Yes.
@@JustinPlaysTV the anime one
i wonder how the typhoon (eurofighter ) would peform sins its nearly the same like the gripen but just got better engines that can accelerate in the supersonic range even without afterburner, and got to guidet bomb´s and aa missels .
Depends on genereation as allways but they are close in performance thru the program. The Typhoon has more power but more drag. Basically the difference is payload...
Brit's and Swedes always collaborated with technologies so the systems are quite similar.
Jas39E can also go supersonic without using the afterburner due to an upgraded engine, think it's known as supercruse. But yes typhoon and gripen shares a lot of systems as well as missiles it can carry.
All Gripens can super cruise on dry thrust, with 6 missiles on even.
sweden and UK finally have a war heads on four heads dogfighter
Also, Gaijin nerfs every western equipment. The stormer for example. Also, Ive seen multiple Pantsirs(basically a fucking normal truck) eat Mavericks like they were M80's. Its such bs.
lol I was the AH-1Z in the first match!
Mirage 4000 plz
for anybody wondering, yes, as justin said the free GE is legit however it does take a bit to get a large amount of GE
I wouldnt be partnered with them if it wasn't xP
nice looking guns if they ain’t plastic
Nah they're prop guns used to scare away birds.
(My lawyer informed me to write this)
@@JustinPlaysTV pesky squirrels
Ir- fox 2 radar- fox 3
what decal is that blond anime girl?
Don't get why the Swedish gets the A-model and the Brits get the C-model
Everyone's talking about the, f15 when this jet is 10× better
16:44 i know you dont play air but bruh, youre in a gripen
Justin while I was making YT video about the SEP you killed me while making YT video about the Grippen, what are the odds?
CC Ception!
i wonder how annoyed ground players are to those deaths.
lately i was lossing alot games like 8 games in a row idk but that seems like gaijin hates us bc teams are not even a little balanced to just happend this.
They need to seriously buff top tier AA!
It is actually sad that our country South Africa has like 26 gripens and only 2 of them are operational if I'm not mistaken. Our military is an embarrassment. We have some of the best equipment compared to other African countries and most of it is in storage or not operational.
Sweden needed the cas more
I renamed myself in game to Gripen_Deez_Nutz because of how much I want this plane (also I know if I waited someone would take it before me).
hey justin thanks for space bombing me at 20:49, i tried to fly by u later in that game but u shot me down...
Alright I will subscribe 😂😂
Jas39a gets agm65a
bro 235 million SL 💀
Ï honestly miss playing warthunder but the grind just was such a turn off for me
JAS39C gets HMD and JAS39A is slightly lihter
"I dirt!" Completely stealing that. lol
Only cuz I need to.....sadly
Edit: nope, never use landing gear...ARB/GRB...straight disadvantage. Feels better tho?
18:03 R73/magic 2, you dont. you are dead. Aim9M keep popping flares and maneuver out of the ballistic flight path of the missile
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I absolutely hate the incoming missile sounds now. They sound like jet engines which is stupid af.
Cann anyone fucking explain how ITS posible to 1 Hit a chalenger truh the brece?