Really poor showing by the producers. My friend is an editor of the show and he told me that what Philomena said would've resolved the Israeli/Palestinian conflict
When the show is neither owned nor produced( non-North Merican English) by the broadcast-partner, it's like extrapolating something from Deaflympics®/Paralympics®/Special Olympics® broadcast out of the UKGB"NI" and comparing it to something out of the output they do own and produce.
lol I love that she's actually pronouncing the name of the Arab guy who created it. Pronouncing it correctly too, which will almost certainly make those who don't know it was created by an Arab guy of that name think she's just taking the piss. :D
@@almishtiAl-Jabra is not some "Arab guy's name". It means something like "bonesetting" because Arab mathematician Al-Khwarizmi used a medical word in his book.
@@vincentmutel7313 ah, okay. But still, it's the name or nick name that we in the west all know him by, so effectively it's his name. Was that the name he signed his books with?
@@almishti As I said, his name was Al-Khwarizmi and that's how he signed his books. He was never known as Al-Jabra anywhere. His name became Algorizmi in Latin. It is the origin of the word "algorithm".
Why is it funny to have Wales in Africa? I don't get it. I'll grant I didn't know where Wales was until after I watched the video and read the comments and looked it up, but I still don't get the joke.
Oh, they were there. Some say the Welsch Discovered the jungle. And then they went back home defeated in the rumble in the jungle to mope around on that rainy island. God save the queen...or king. I don't know how that goes anymore😔
If you talk about Islam things might 'backfire', yet if the same happens the other way round when folks anywhere talk about Christianity, not much happens. That says much more about the people being talked about, than the people doing the talking.
Things happen too when people talk against other religions such as Judaism or Hinduism. If Chrisitians don't say anything if people insults their religion that's on them. But I can tell you this with certainty tho, that in countries where Christianity are minority, like Bangladesh, Egypt, Indonesia, India, there are laws in place that if someone insults a religion like Christianity, they are punished accordingly. These laws are mostly in place to ensure 'religious harmony' and minimise potential inter-faith violence. If Christian nations like US, Slovakia for example does not have such laws in place, that's on them and their voters.
Well it depends on where you are. I remember Sinead O'Connor being unable to appear anywhere after tearing up a picture of the Pope on television. This is before my time, but I think most people didn't know what she was talking about (the Catholic pedophilia scandal has been a public issue in Ireland for much longer than in the US.) Also, before and during the Lebanese civil war, Christian militias would attach non-Christians to power lines. But true, in this day and age, it's probably the religion which has the least consequences for criticizing it. But for most history since its founding, it was the most dangerous of the Abrahamic religions to criticize. It's funny how history works. What you're saying is true, but it doesn't tell you much about the religion, but about where the tensions are. Religions get really touchy under two sets of circumstances: when they're a persecuted minority, or where they're in total control. It's why at the moment criticizing Islam is a briar patch; because in so many parts of the world it's either one or the other. Bill Maher likes to make a similar argument to what you're making -- some Muslims react very badly when their religion is criticized while Christians may kill for other reasons, defamation of Christianity isn't one of them, so that's how you know there's something wrong with Islam. When periods of time where it was the exact opposite are pointed out to him, he goes "but that was like 100 years ago!", as if that was before the Quran 2.0 dropped, or something. No, same religions, just different circumstances everywhere else. Which should tell him it's not the religion influencing the society; it's the society influencing the religion. This is obvious if you've read the Quran, because it's constantly referring to Old Testament prophets. Noah, Moses, Jesus, Abraham, and Solomon are all people whose teachings you're supposed to follow. This, like everything else in the Quran, is repeated over and over and over again. Anyway, I don't know if you know this, but just yesterday three Palestinian-Americans who were visiting their families for Thanksgiving were shot by a white assailant in Vermont: two will likely pull through, but one's got the bullet lodged in his spine. One of them went to Haverford, which pretty much profiles him, but all three of them looked like old money to me. But I doubt they were shot for being preppy.
@@nuzayerov Hey, I should have read your post before writing mine. I made a similar point, that religions get touchy when they feel under threat OR when they are in total control. In Indonesia, where it's like "there's some Muslims, and then there are some non-Muslims" there's no tension I know of.
@@shairafaiza7261it’s an act of free speech. You are allowed to criticise a religion, even though I think it’s very distasteful. It’s also just 2 people in the whole country, sadly it’s being blown up by media, mainly in the Middle East. Turkey is also taking advantage of it to postpone Swedens NATO membership.
Strange. I was taught that there was a library in a place called Alexandria a millennia before Islam and that calculus was invented by Leibnitz and Newton.
And most of the classical texts of the Greco-Roman world only survived because Islamic scholars translated and preserved them in their libraries, from whence they were eventually re-exported to Europe. The fact remains that during the middle ages it was the Islamic world which was the centre of learning, with the first universities and the world's greatest libraries.
What do you mean by calculus? Astronomic calculation date back at least from ancient Babylon and Egypt, Leibnitz and Newton gave major improvements to the calculation by taking into account heliocentrism and gravity.
@@GeorgeP1066 The imperial library in Constantinople, founded 300 years before Islam came into existence, housed tens of thousands of texts from the ancient Roman and Greek world and the most influential texts were studied in Europe as much as elsewhere. The Arabs translated and thus preserved many texts from the areas and civilizations they conquered, but "most" would certainly be an overstatement.
@@Saufs0ldat pretty much all the works of Aristotle we have come from sixth and seventh century translations into Syriac and then into Arabic and then, finally, into Latin by visiting scholars. The library of Baghdad was founded in the eighth century and was the largest public library in the world, with a collection from all over the world thanks to its location at the heart of global trade routes, at a time when Europe basically didn't even have any public libraries. The idea that the Islamic world wasn't a major contribution to world knowledge, especially in the middle ages, is just ludicrous. There's a reason why scholars from across the medieval world flocked to the Islamic world, and it's because it's where they could have access to teaching and books they couldn't find anywhere else.
@@SpeaksYourWordit’s called facts, Abdul. Something your lot know f*** all about because your heads are all stuck in the sand, waiting for Mo to f*** you in the ass again.
@satidaabsolutely. Algebra ,numericals were all invented in india, as the arabians were predominantly traders, they took around the knowledge to europe. The Europeans being colonizers in later centuries just wrote history whatever way they wished. It just annoys me to no end when the actual truth is still taught with so much deviations.
I won't defend FOX, but I'd add CNN to the list. There's this Polish station, also owned by Discovery, which can't go one week without saying how great and respected CNN is. They just forget to mention that they had on avarage 10 times less viewers than they do, in a country with 10 times higher population
It sucks there's such a sensitivity among muslims, where we can't joke at all about the religion without a serious worldwide overreaction, and threats of violence.
Religion ,whether it be Islam, Christianity or Judaism, is not a topic to be laughed at. This is about worshipping Allah, being the best version one can be and reaching out to others. Since we are talking about God, it ought to be discussed in a good manner, out of respect. There are so many fields in life one can joke about and make fun of; just leave religion out of it.
@@communistshqiperia Allah does exist because there can never be a creation without a creator. Also, haven't you ever wondered what will happen after everybody is dead?! What will happen after death? Whether or not we will meet our creator? May Allah guide you to the right path.
@@elpeluca7780 No recuerdo una sola vez en la que una caricatura sobre Jesús, el Papa o la Iglesia en general acabe en gente siendo asesinada. Con Mahoma sí. No son los libros sino el fanatismo alrededor.
@@LiamteMuhammad was very peaceful, what are you talking about? His own rules of war were literally “don’t hurt women or children, don’t decapitate or dismember anyone in battle, don’t cut down or burn down trees”, and many more, heck he even forgave the same dude who mutilated and dismembered one of his close family members when others would’ve definitely caused harm.
@@youwantfood9586 LOL yes, it's as if Jesus had waged wars of conquest. Not to mention that some things have happened since Mohammed lived until now. If that were not the case, this joke would not make sense, now they kill people for drawing pictures they don't like.
@@diane5140 You obviously don't understand sarcasm. The only thing I know for sure is that if a friend of mine and I were walking down the street in the middle of Europe. Him wearing something derogatory about Jesus on his T-shirt and I having a picture of that pedo Mohammad - I would be fearing for my life. Basically, we're screwed.
It's telling that whenever you want to talk about the accomplishments of Islam or benefits to mankind you're always having to reach back a thousand years.
because of the crusades, and the diabolical thievery of everything from our countries and the burning of libraries in Baghdad. The Western world had NOTHING until you started pillaging.
In the context where algebra is identified with the theory of equations, the Greek mathematician Diophantus has traditionally been known as the "father of algebra" and in the context where it is identified with rules for manipulating and solving equations. Persian mathematician al-Khwarizmi developed the idea a bit.
Al-khawrazmi didn't "develop it a bit", he developed the modern way to do algebra, which Diophantes didn't. 3010tangents.wordpress.com/2014/09/17/the-father-of-algebra-al-khwarizmi-or-diophantus/
@@blehblahov7398 whatever. Khwarazm wasn't and isn't Persian, and you can bite all dust in the world to claim his name, but Khwarazm isn't even close to Iran, while the language Iranians speak now is far from the court one Dari spoken by Khwarazmi and other Tajiks.
El Jebra. That translates into "The Zebra", which is a very ancient and deeply spiritual philosophy which surmises that the way in which a striped horse flick flies from its tail will provide a guide in relation to the trajectory of the universe each and every time it enters a newer orbit around the the fig of all creation.
The word algebra is the latinisation of the Arabic word al-jabr (completion/reunion) used in the title of a book that first introduced the concept. The author of the book was called Al-Khwarizmi and his name used to be transliterated into Latin as Algorismus from which comes the modern English word algorithm.
@@robertkovalcik7818 Yes, indeed. I am aware that this is put forward as the origin, and I was simply offering some variation in response to the humourous theme offered on this page (in much the same way as another contributor on this page was offering humour in relation to his maths and perfumery contribution). My initial thoughts (prior to my zebra story comment) had been to provide a "play" on the word "abacus", something related to Abba or Abu Cuss, perhaps. But I ran with the zebra (pun intended). I still thank you for offering this, and I would invite you (if you've not done so already) to place this explanation in the main comments section as well. Some viewers might not have picked up on the exact meaning in relation to the al-jabr reference presented at the end of this clip (by Diane Morgan, aka "Cunk"). Cheers.
Hack joke that's been done hundreds of times on Islam already. They didn't have the balls to make fun of it properly. See Stephen Crowder for decent comedy on Islam (drawing muhammad).
@@david9783 Islamic jihadists don't hunt down civilians like Salman Rushdie and stab him in the eye. Islamic jihadists also don't murder cartoonists in France. Good to know. Thanks for the info.
Nope, they didn't do calculus, they did some great mathematics, but those who did it were PERSIAN mathematicians, NOT muslims. The muslims burned every library they encountered.
No they didn't burn anything and that's a fact, another fact is yes many were Persian, MUSLIM PERSIAN MATHEMATICIANS, unless your lil brain thinks Persian is a religion itself, in this case there is no cure buddy, just remember, Arab and Muslim are two different things, not all Muslims are Arab and vice versa.
Diane is brilliant, but I cannot believe that even in a comedy like this, Muslim academics are credited with maths, geometry, etc - all simply preserved from Greeks. A valuable contribution at a time when much learning was lost, but not original. It's also not true to say Muslims established the first libraries. The library of Anexandria was damaged by fire in 48 BC, several hundred years before the founding of Islam...... yawn.
It's not even Muslims, the advancement of existing knowledge was by the Persians. Yes they happened to be Muslim but it was their culture that set them apart.
There was however real scientific progress done by Muslims during the golden age of Islam, Arabs and Persians alike. Avicenna was still considered the father of medicine until the 18th century, and they had several scientists at the time that dabbled in astronomy, mathematics, irrigation technologies and also purely decorative/not-so-useful things like clockwork automata. To say they only preserved the ancient Greek knowledge is a lie, and don't forget than back then Europe was about as backward as bronze age China, (with horrible techniques even in agriculture like "two field systems") so it's still pretty impressive! It's ofc dumb to credit Arabic and Persian technological and cultural achievements solely to Islam, just as it'd be dumb to credit European ones to Christianity, but they certainly existed...
@@BlisaBLisa and they are WAY more thin skinned than a Gen Zer being misgendered. The slightest scrutiny of their religion can put the offender in harms way.
This would have been far funnier if at the moment her notes were blown away and she started to wing it about Islam the caption "This content is not available in your territory" had continued right to the end of the video. Such a shame that opportunity was wasted.
There's always that guy who thinks he should comment on the physical appearance of others, which we know is a genetic roll of the dice and gives no one any actual credit whatsoever. Hang in there. You'll get a girlfriend one day.
@@maltesetony9030yea, try saying "great ass" to your boss and lets see how they'd enjoy the compliment! Maybe just don't go for people their appearance when it's not relevant. Especially women.
Islam, as a contemporary great power, gathered, processed and disseminated knowledge. It did not contribute greatly in original material of mathematics.
@@HarisPeco-zx8cp No, all that came from India. Al-Khwarizmi spoke Hindi and learned it from indians. And he was of Jewish extraction as evidenced by his name ibn Musa.
She covered Islam in 1 minute. She took another 30 mins on Christianity and making fun of Jesus. Big fan of Cunk, but we can see clear double standards here.
@@jimmyalfonda3536Some learning happened despite the religion - not because of it - and it was then quickly stifled. The so called 'Golden Age' consisted of a couple of decades here and there in disparate places due to a few enlightened rulers who were less religious than others, with things going back to normal when those individual rulers died. So if a civilisation has to go back a thousand years to only find such a paltry peak of progress, it really doesn't say much for the progressive nature of that civilisation.
@@HarisPeco-zx8cp I said 'a couple of decades here and there', so don't misquote me again. That meant a couple of decades in one place and another couple in another place etc. over a period of a few centuries only. Not 600 years. And if it was 600 years, that would be worse, because that would dilute those paltry achievements even more over a longer period. The conquest of Byzantine, Gothic, Persian and Indian cities (along with Chinese contact) exposed the Arab barbarians to the knowledge, skills and experts of those cultures that just a few of their enlightened rulers managed to patronise and encourage before they died, with any progress then smothered again by religious darkness. That's why you have to dive back so far in history to find any progress at all. The 'golden age' is largely a modern propaganda myth fabricated to help ease the massive inferiority complex Islamic societies suffer from due to the huge advancements of the secular West.
Give us more of this Lady, if you can't laugh about things what is the point in living. All the nasty bits about Islam are written down by Muslims in their holy books and open for all to read. They are not ashamed of a single word and strive to live by the rules laid down by Mohammed with all of the discrimination, violence and expansionist aims.
With your face like that, why aren’t we surprised that you’re a moron.. you look like you’re past the retirement age, maybe you should try to learn the truth before you die an idiot
The religion was not founded by Muhammad, but his family after his death. He only came along some 500 years or so after the advent of Christ, enabling lots of plagiarism, like the angel he spoke to, Gabriel, called Gibreel. Gabriel, is the angel who told Mary she is to be pregnant with the son of God. Imagine that. The same angel who told Mary one thing and Muhammad another? He met Jesus in heaven? That means he didn't meet a prophet,as no man hath ascended to heaven. And Issac was put up for sacrifice, not Ishmael. Put that in your idahladha, and smoke it. Islam, a basterd religion yesterday, today, and always. Such nice folks too, what with constant jihad, rape culture, and all. Then there's the silent majority that knows to remain silent,... or else.
@BlisaBLisa 90% of Christianity is bogus by Sunday keeping, less sinning by less killing. However, Christianity doesn't have endorsed pedophilia by a book, nor female 4th class citizenship. No better than Islam, other than the creator on their side.
@@BlisaBLisa Christianity sucks too. In fact, I am not a fan of ANY organized religion. .. your point though?? Am I correct in understanding that you mean, the constant jihad, and rape culture is justified or excused because another religion is bad too?? I see this deflection technique used in politics quite often. One group calls out another group's leader or higher-up on some bad behavior. Then, rather than owning the situation, they say something along the lines of "Oh yeah?? Well YOUR guy blah blah blah..." as if deflecting the accusation makes the bad behavior of their guy acceptable because someone from the other side is just as bad. You see it a lot in schoolyard behavior too. In this case... Christians are/were bad, so the jihad and rape culture is not up for discussion.
@@sebfox2194 True just not the religious muslims, who took credit for whatever happened in the area's they conquered. Theocracies are not famous for scientific inovation.
@@HarisPeco-zx8cp So a Democracy then, I am sure people throughtout the Middle will be delighted to so governed😂 Yes we certainly have a lot to thank the Greeks for. never invented anything🤣 except for just about everything, how old are you five ?🤣
Thought she was going to hold up a series of barely-blurred images of Mohammed. Then we she actually shows a face she says, "Gotcha. That's just some old Arab fella." I mean, who would know, right?
Here in the part of the world where I live, this was blacked out from 0:37 to 0:51. ..... Ms.Cunk must have said something offensive... hope she still has two hands.
@@shairafaiza7261 first off, I am not a girl. I am an American Indian man still living on the rez my family has lived on for many years. I'll have to check but I don't think anyone in our tribe has been out in the world destroying stuff. I did go on a family vacation to Disneyland and seen some great examples of these people they call "Woke" having tantrums. it was interesting to say the least. Had one "person" scream at me for calling her miss. Never saw them kill anyone though. I HAVE read about those Muslim guys losing it and killing people for saying things they don't like about their religion. So yeah, I stand by my comment. And I have been "corrected" by those woke people for referring to myself as American Indian. They generally say "Native American". Well they can kiss my butt. Some of us still call ourselves Indians with a capitol I, and we're damn proud of our heritage.
Well she started this, didn't she? The comment section is filled with people either attacking Islam who definitely believe Islamic people are terrorists, or Islamic people either going, "leave our religion of peace alone" or talking about some very, very sensitive issues. Now here's what's interesting about this: it's not the middle east attacking America to take it's oil. It's not the middle east going, "oh these people and their capitalistic miniskirts and their refusal to let their women get decent abortions, they deserve to die"... it's more or less the other way around. If you want to attack a culture you don't know anything about, you should visit them first... but you mostly can't because these countries are ripped apart by western politics.
I personally don't think it's a cop out. I think the joke works pretty well, letting you imagine what she said, while also laughing at how they make fun of networks being scared of repercussions when talking about the topic.
Al Jebra. Right, OK. I seem to have heard this somewhere else. Now it's coming back to me. It's said to have been derived from a reference to a Hebrew era god named El Al Jebra, whose wife (Debra) promised the desert dwelling believers a beautiful Babbleonian Rose Garden at some point. This "Jebra" method was said to have been used in relation to the ancient art of aroma-thematic perfumery, introduced by none other than Sheik Abu Cuz, the Sultan of Sling, and then Sum.
He's joking (Sultan of Sling, etc.). Al-jabr was the Arabic term, meaning restoration, making whole. Also a term for bone-setters. Check Wikipedia.@@michaelfourie345
What a hypocrisy! Muslims are being killed in palastine a genocide is happening. Are u sure islam is not peaceful religion ? Then why they targeted in every way
To be fair, they both do have their fair share of swordsplay 🍆 In the West they decided to become more secular (apart from America) and decided to do wars based on other excuses instead.
Really poor showing by the producers. My friend is an editor of the show and he told me that what Philomena said would've resolved the Israeli/Palestinian conflict
"If they're all fighting over a rock, why not bring them another rock? In fact give rocks to everybody"
@Alonoda I'm a Palestinian Muslim, and this comment honestly made me laugh.
I mean shit, yeah, why not just give rocks to everyone, huh?
Philomena brings everyone together
Philomena (Diane) can solve everything 😂
Is his name Paul by any chance?
The music pausing while shes chewing then continuing when shes done gets me every time 😭
Didn’t notice first time 😅.
HAHAHAHAHAJA
This is how BBC talks about Islam the humorous way. But it's also the way they do it when they are serious.
It's a private production, "genius"...!
@@maazkalim ...and?
Your point by bringing-up the anchor-broadcaster( "Original" network) doesn't matter as much as you'd hope.
To put it concisely.
Does that help?
@@maazkalim But that was not my point. Try again!
When the show is neither owned nor produced( non-North Merican English) by the broadcast-partner, it's like extrapolating something from Deaflympics®/Paralympics®/Special Olympics® broadcast out of the UKGB"NI" and comparing it to something out of the output they do own and produce.
The subtle when the music stops and resumes back after she's done eating lol
I laughed embarrassingly hard at Cunk’s pronunciation of ‘Algebra’ 😂😂😂
lol I love that she's actually pronouncing the name of the Arab guy who created it. Pronouncing it correctly too, which will almost certainly make those who don't know it was created by an Arab guy of that name think she's just taking the piss. :D
@@almishtiAl-Jabra is not some "Arab guy's name". It means something like "bonesetting" because Arab mathematician Al-Khwarizmi used a medical word in his book.
@@vincentmutel7313 ah, okay. But still, it's the name or nick name that we in the west all know him by, so effectively it's his name. Was that the name he signed his books with?
@@almishti As I said, his name was Al-Khwarizmi and that's how he signed his books. He was never known as Al-Jabra anywhere. His name became Algorizmi in Latin. It is the origin of the word "algorithm".
@@vincentmutel7313 oh, okay, apologies I didn't realize he was actually Al-Khwarizmi. Now I know, thanks. :)
I love the map that Philomena works from.
It really shows Wales in its true light.
😂 I’ve watched this about ten times before and never noticed this!
@@hopeyboi8750
Well, that's the difference between 'looking' and 'seeing'. 😉😊
What's wrong with the map? I don't see it
Why is it funny to have Wales in Africa? I don't get it.
I'll grant I didn't know where Wales was until after I watched the video and read the comments and looked it up, but I still don't get the joke.
@@tim57243 It’s not a reference to anything, it’s just to show how naive Cunk’s character is because she thought Wales was in Africa
She has incredible timing and the lines come from left field. Great comedy of an unusual style.
I saw this a ways back and honestly I wish there was more of it. We need a second season! Surely there's more of history to explore!
I'd love it if they dipped into the history of science, and spoke with scientists of various fields.
¿Y 🪢 work ²gethr² duit?
She's going around the globe
Nope. That was all of it.
Cunk on Earth II!
"It's alright, I'll busk it."😂
Who knew the Welsh got that far South? I love how she presses on with her dialogue with a mouth full of Nutella.
Oh, they were there. Some say the Welsch Discovered the jungle. And then they went back home defeated in the rumble in the jungle to mope around on that rainy island. God save the queen...or king. I don't know how that goes anymore😔
The map of "Wales" had me in stitches lmao
Well spotted! I missed it.
Good find!
"This Content is not available in your territory" lol! ☠🤣 I m dead laughing
This show was hilarious but they should've had the balls to actually roast Islam the way they did Christianity.
It is a much bigger roast to say Muslims cannot handle getting roasted.
To be fair, the Catholic Church used be be a little bit touchy about their fairy tales. Islam has centuries to catch up.
The BBC has a strict editorial policy of not upsetting people of faith (if they are likely to murder them).
Charlie Hebdo
A non-journalism, "@@TheTibetyak".
If you talk about Islam things might 'backfire', yet if the same happens the other way round when folks anywhere talk about Christianity, not much happens.
That says much more about the people being talked about, than the people doing the talking.
Things happen too when people talk against other religions such as Judaism or Hinduism. If Chrisitians don't say anything if people insults their religion that's on them.
But I can tell you this with certainty tho, that in countries where Christianity are minority, like Bangladesh, Egypt, Indonesia, India, there are laws in place that if someone insults a religion like Christianity, they are punished accordingly. These laws are mostly in place to ensure 'religious harmony' and minimise potential inter-faith violence.
If Christian nations like US, Slovakia for example does not have such laws in place, that's on them and their voters.
@@nuzayerov In Sweden they burn the Quran.
Well it depends on where you are. I remember Sinead O'Connor being unable to appear anywhere after tearing up a picture of the Pope on television. This is before my time, but I think most people didn't know what she was talking about (the Catholic pedophilia scandal has been a public issue in Ireland for much longer than in the US.) Also, before and during the Lebanese civil war, Christian militias would attach non-Christians to power lines. But true, in this day and age, it's probably the religion which has the least consequences for criticizing it. But for most history since its founding, it was the most dangerous of the Abrahamic religions to criticize.
It's funny how history works. What you're saying is true, but it doesn't tell you much about the religion, but about where the tensions are. Religions get really touchy under two sets of circumstances: when they're a persecuted minority, or where they're in total control. It's why at the moment criticizing Islam is a briar patch; because in so many parts of the world it's either one or the other. Bill Maher likes to make a similar argument to what you're making -- some Muslims react very badly when their religion is criticized while Christians may kill for other reasons, defamation of Christianity isn't one of them, so that's how you know there's something wrong with Islam. When periods of time where it was the exact opposite are pointed out to him, he goes "but that was like 100 years ago!", as if that was before the Quran 2.0 dropped, or something. No, same religions, just different circumstances everywhere else. Which should tell him it's not the religion influencing the society; it's the society influencing the religion. This is obvious if you've read the Quran, because it's constantly referring to Old Testament prophets. Noah, Moses, Jesus, Abraham, and Solomon are all people whose teachings you're supposed to follow. This, like everything else in the Quran, is repeated over and over and over again.
Anyway, I don't know if you know this, but just yesterday three Palestinian-Americans who were visiting their families for Thanksgiving were shot by a white assailant in Vermont: two will likely pull through, but one's got the bullet lodged in his spine. One of them went to Haverford, which pretty much profiles him, but all three of them looked like old money to me. But I doubt they were shot for being preppy.
@@nuzayerov Hey, I should have read your post before writing mine. I made a similar point, that religions get touchy when they feel under threat OR when they are in total control. In Indonesia, where it's like "there's some Muslims, and then there are some non-Muslims" there's no tension I know of.
@@shairafaiza7261it’s an act of free speech. You are allowed to criticise a religion, even though I think it’s very distasteful.
It’s also just 2 people in the whole country, sadly it’s being blown up by media, mainly in the Middle East.
Turkey is also taking advantage of it to postpone Swedens NATO membership.
Brilliant, hilarious and irreverent!! I’m hooked.
Philomena and her crew are sooooooo brilliant!!!!!
Beautiful timing. I love the map of Wales. 🏴
The islamic mega nerds 😭😂😂
Yeah 😂
what, like all five of them ?
Strange. I was taught that there was a library in a place called Alexandria a millennia before Islam and that calculus was invented by Leibnitz and Newton.
And most of the classical texts of the Greco-Roman world only survived because Islamic scholars translated and preserved them in their libraries, from whence they were eventually re-exported to Europe. The fact remains that during the middle ages it was the Islamic world which was the centre of learning, with the first universities and the world's greatest libraries.
What do you mean by calculus? Astronomic calculation date back at least from ancient Babylon and Egypt, Leibnitz and Newton gave major improvements to the calculation by taking into account heliocentrism and gravity.
Worth researching islamic caliphates tbf. And Chinese empires. We learn a very one-sided history.
@@GeorgeP1066 The imperial library in Constantinople, founded 300 years before Islam came into existence, housed tens of thousands of texts from the ancient Roman and Greek world and the most influential texts were studied in Europe as much as elsewhere. The Arabs translated and thus preserved many texts from the areas and civilizations they conquered, but "most" would certainly be an overstatement.
@@Saufs0ldat pretty much all the works of Aristotle we have come from sixth and seventh century translations into Syriac and then into Arabic and then, finally, into Latin by visiting scholars. The library of Baghdad was founded in the eighth century and was the largest public library in the world, with a collection from all over the world thanks to its location at the heart of global trade routes, at a time when Europe basically didn't even have any public libraries.
The idea that the Islamic world wasn't a major contribution to world knowledge, especially in the middle ages, is just ludicrous. There's a reason why scholars from across the medieval world flocked to the Islamic world, and it's because it's where they could have access to teaching and books they couldn't find anywhere else.
Well, algebra comes from Arabic al-jabr, so that part is actually right.
Good luck with that without the zero from India.
@@ebt7 what does that have to do with anything filthy ranjeet?
@@SpeaksYourWordit’s called facts, Abdul. Something your lot know f*** all about because your heads are all stuck in the sand, waiting for Mo to f*** you in the ass again.
@satidaabsolutely. Algebra ,numericals were all invented in india, as the arabians were predominantly traders, they took around the knowledge to europe. The Europeans being colonizers in later centuries just wrote history whatever way they wished. It just annoys me to no end when the actual truth is still taught with so much deviations.
Lmao pajeets cope harder with your fake history lmao
this had me in stitches
In stitches is better than in pieces.
Did the people stab you?
Thx for giving Fox its deserved recognition philomena. ❤
"... almost as quickly as FOX NEWS thinks it still does today"
I won't defend FOX, but I'd add CNN to the list.
There's this Polish station, also owned by Discovery, which can't go one week without saying how great and respected CNN is.
They just forget to mention that they had on avarage 10 times less viewers than they do, in a country with 10 times higher population
@@CancermanPL: Dude, where is the bus?
Since when, let's spill beans - "@@CancermanPL"?
@@CancermanPLits a joke calm down
1:07 - all hail the mighty nation of Wales
Wales is a hotbed for Muslim radicals. It’s also a hotbed for onions.
Glad to see her head is still intact
That's quite a blow to be honest.
It sucks there's such a sensitivity among muslims, where we can't joke at all about the religion without a serious worldwide overreaction, and threats of violence.
Religion ,whether it be Islam, Christianity or Judaism, is not a topic to be laughed at. This is about worshipping Allah, being the best version one can be and reaching out to others. Since we are talking about God, it ought to be discussed in a good manner, out of respect. There are so many fields in life one can joke about and make fun of; just leave religion out of it.
@@arays.5235 This is a prime example of what I was talking about. Lighten up.
@@arays.5235 your god doesn't exist, so no he doesn't need respect.
@@mohammadalirashed3103 I'm cool. I'm just explaining to you my opinion.
@@communistshqiperia Allah does exist because there can never be a creation without a creator. Also, haven't you ever wondered what will happen after everybody is dead?! What will happen after death? Whether or not we will meet our creator?
May Allah guide you to the right path.
I heard that what she said was actually a MOSTLY PEACEFUL commentary on Islam.
la única religión sobre la que se podría hacer este chiste de "voy a censurarme o me matan"
Desafortunadamente no jaja solo lee la biblia y te das cuenta que el cristianismo real es lo mismo
@@elpeluca7780 No recuerdo una sola vez en la que una caricatura sobre Jesús, el Papa o la Iglesia en general acabe en gente siendo asesinada. Con Mahoma sí. No son los libros sino el fanatismo alrededor.
@@elpeluca7780 NOT. Try it and find out.
@@LiamteMuhammad was very peaceful, what are you talking about? His own rules of war were literally “don’t hurt women or children, don’t decapitate or dismember anyone in battle, don’t cut down or burn down trees”, and many more, heck he even forgave the same dude who mutilated and dismembered one of his close family members when others would’ve definitely caused harm.
@@youwantfood9586 LOL yes, it's as if Jesus had waged wars of conquest. Not to mention that some things have happened since Mohammed lived until now. If that were not the case, this joke would not make sense, now they kill people for drawing pictures they don't like.
I really love how the papers flying away was done. You can’t even notice her letting go.
"Al-jebrah" cracks me up every time.
To be fair, it's called "algebra" because it actually is arabic, derived from "al-jabr"
The funny thing is that’s exactly how we pronounce it in Pakistan
Diane, very brave of you. I applaud you!
How is it brave? She went on and on about Jesus but not a word mocking Mohammed. I understand why but it wasn't brave.
@@diane5140 You obviously don't understand sarcasm. The only thing I know for sure is that if a friend of mine and I were walking down the street in the middle of Europe. Him wearing something derogatory about Jesus on his T-shirt and I having a picture of that pedo Mohammad - I would be fearing for my life. Basically, we're screwed.
@@mkrleza Fair enough. A lot of people genuinely think this was brave of her.
@@diane5140 Actually, it's not fair. I have answered you. Twice. Neither time did my answer show... YT, eh?
It's telling that whenever you want to talk about the accomplishments of Islam or benefits to mankind you're always having to reach back a thousand years.
The same goes for all Abrahamic religions though.
You mean like Einstein and Newton?@@gordvpn481
What did Christianity create, please tell except hindering scientific development for centuries.
@@gordvpn481 ~ Untrue .
because of the crusades, and the diabolical thievery of everything from our countries and the burning of libraries in Baghdad. The Western world had NOTHING until you started pillaging.
1:08 Wales???
01:24 -- *"So Islamic mega-nerds created the first libraries"*
(the Library of Alexandria, c. 250BCE): *"Am I a joke to you?!"*
In the context where algebra is identified with the theory of equations, the Greek mathematician Diophantus has traditionally been known as the "father of algebra" and in the context where it is identified with rules for manipulating and solving equations.
Persian mathematician al-Khwarizmi developed the idea a bit.
Actually he was born in Uzbekistan. I've been to Khiva, where he was born. Of course, there was no country of Uzbekistan then
Al-khawrazmi didn't "develop it a bit", he developed the modern way to do algebra, which Diophantes didn't.
3010tangents.wordpress.com/2014/09/17/the-father-of-algebra-al-khwarizmi-or-diophantus/
@@blehblahov7398 whatever. Khwarazm wasn't and isn't Persian, and you can bite all dust in the world to claim his name, but Khwarazm isn't even close to Iran, while the language Iranians speak now is far from the court one Dari spoken by Khwarazmi and other Tajiks.
El Jebra. That translates into "The Zebra", which is a very ancient and deeply spiritual philosophy which surmises that the way in which a striped horse flick flies from its tail will provide a guide in relation to the trajectory of the universe each and every time it enters a newer orbit around the the fig of all creation.
K.
No.
It was named after The first scientist who discovered/invented it...
but while ur on pot , why don’t u share some..
@@Randomynous01 The first scientist, huh. Oh really? Or so the Germans would have us believe.
The word algebra is the latinisation of the Arabic word al-jabr (completion/reunion) used in the title of a book that first introduced the concept. The author of the book was called Al-Khwarizmi and his name used to be transliterated into Latin as Algorismus from which comes the modern English word algorithm.
@@robertkovalcik7818 Yes, indeed. I am aware that this is put forward as the origin, and I was simply offering some variation in response to the humourous theme offered on this page (in much the same way as another contributor on this page was offering humour in relation to his maths and perfumery contribution).
My initial thoughts (prior to my zebra story comment) had been to provide a "play" on the word "abacus", something related to Abba or Abu Cuss, perhaps. But I ran with the zebra (pun intended).
I still thank you for offering this, and I would invite you (if you've not done so already) to place this explanation in the main comments section as well. Some viewers might not have picked up on the exact meaning in relation to the al-jabr reference presented at the end of this clip (by Diane Morgan, aka "Cunk").
Cheers.
I love how sub-Saharan Africa in the map is just labeled as "Wales".
Brilliant! Witty, wry, and non-offensive. Not easy these days 😅
Can't risk offending the volatile Muslims and end up getting stabbed. The BBC is terrified of them.
Hack joke that's been done hundreds of times on Islam already. They didn't have the balls to make fun of it properly. See Stephen Crowder for decent comedy on Islam (drawing muhammad).
@@utarian7 steven crowder is a retard
0:34 my lawyers have advised me against finishing this joke
I wonder how it spread through Arabia, Persia, North Africa, and Iberia so quickly. Hmm. I'm sure it was just peaceful missionary work.
Nutella
This religion sounds interesting. I'd like to know more abut the Muslim prophet Muhammad. Can someone please post a picture of him?
I’ve braved the throng and given you a thumbs up.
My religion has been to follow the teachings of Brian, but remember “he’s just a very naughty boy!”
Look for an image of Popeye The Sailor.
@@david9783 Will possessing such an image get me beheaded?
Not if you don't show it at your local mosque.@@DemPilafian
@@david9783 Islamic jihadists don't hunt down civilians like Salman Rushdie and stab him in the eye. Islamic jihadists also don't murder cartoonists in France. Good to know. Thanks for the info.
Nope, they didn't do calculus, they did some great mathematics, but those who did it were PERSIAN mathematicians, NOT muslims. The muslims burned every library they encountered.
No they didn't burn anything and that's a fact, another fact is yes many were Persian, MUSLIM PERSIAN MATHEMATICIANS, unless your lil brain thinks Persian is a religion itself, in this case there is no cure buddy, just remember, Arab and Muslim are two different things, not all Muslims are Arab and vice versa.
@@MyGodZach period! you said it.
Shh, don’t tell them about the House of Wisdom, the Nizamiyeh, or any other institution of learning the Muslims built
Burning a source of knowledge is literally the haram-est haram. Any source for you emotional cry baby claims?
You better be fucking kidding us
Lol i almost died when the paper flew away
Diane is brilliant, but I cannot believe that even in a comedy like this, Muslim academics are credited with maths, geometry, etc - all simply preserved from Greeks. A valuable contribution at a time when much learning was lost, but not original. It's also not true to say Muslims established the first libraries. The library of Anexandria was damaged by fire in 48 BC, several hundred years before the founding of Islam...... yawn.
It's not even Muslims, the advancement of existing knowledge was by the Persians. Yes they happened to be Muslim but it was their culture that set them apart.
There was however real scientific progress done by Muslims during the golden age of Islam, Arabs and Persians alike. Avicenna was still considered the father of medicine until the 18th century, and they had several scientists at the time that dabbled in astronomy, mathematics, irrigation technologies and also purely decorative/not-so-useful things like clockwork automata. To say they only preserved the ancient Greek knowledge is a lie, and don't forget than back then Europe was about as backward as bronze age China, (with horrible techniques even in agriculture like "two field systems") so it's still pretty impressive!
It's ofc dumb to credit Arabic and Persian technological and cultural achievements solely to Islam, just as it'd be dumb to credit European ones to Christianity, but they certainly existed...
@@Vict0r1984 Avicenna was Persian reinforcing my earlier comment.
I need more on Islam.
"Taqiyyah" is the word you need to understand.
Islam. The only religion EVERYONE is scared of.
? its the second biggest religion in the world
@@BlisaBLisa um, that’s what makes it scary.
@@BlisaBLisa and they are WAY more thin skinned than a Gen Zer being misgendered. The slightest scrutiny of their religion can put the offender in harms way.
What??
that jab at fox news is gold ✋💀
This would have been far funnier if at the moment her notes were blown away and she started to wing it about Islam the caption "This content is not available in your territory" had continued right to the end of the video. Such a shame that opportunity was wasted.
It’s because this video is a compilation of moments from a mocumentary she did.
Says a lot that they couldn't make jokes on Islam, so they instead decided to make the situation a joke itself.
Not calculus. They could not do that. It took Newton to invent it.
She is so awesome.
This woman is comedy gold. (Good-looking, too).
There's always that guy who thinks he should comment on the physical appearance of others, which we know is a genetic roll of the dice and gives no one any actual credit whatsoever. Hang in there. You'll get a girlfriend one day.
@@Spiritof_76 Blimey. You pay a woman a compliment & someone throws a wobbler!
Ooopsey, someone’s offended. 😂
@@snozzybosch7503 Not offended, just puzzled by the distempered comment
@@maltesetony9030yea, try saying "great ass" to your boss and lets see how they'd enjoy the compliment! Maybe just don't go for people their appearance when it's not relevant. Especially women.
Legend says she is still eating 😂😂
Masterpiece theatre! Bravo!
"This content is not available in your territory," the plant Earth.
Islam, as a contemporary great power, gathered, processed and disseminated knowledge. It did not contribute greatly in original material of mathematics.
@@HarisPeco-zx8cp No, all that came from India. Al-Khwarizmi spoke Hindi and learned it from indians. And he was of Jewish extraction as evidenced by his name ibn Musa.
What show is this? I want to watch this!
Cunk on Earth
She covered Islam in 1 minute. She took another 30 mins on Christianity and making fun of Jesus. Big fan of Cunk, but we can see clear double standards here.
oooh the Christian is offended...
@@MarioMVasilev not a Christian, no. Thanks for assuming. ✊👊
She didn’t want to get Charlie hebdood..
Less repercussion I suppose
They would give her a piece of their peaceful way if she dared to mock them....
Brilliant, funny. More Cunk!
In reality, the knowledge stuff was happening pre-Islam and then the imams shut it down everywhere they went.
There was still learning going on during the Caliphate. Especially during the Islamic Golden age.
@@jimmyalfonda3536Some learning happened despite the religion - not because of it - and it was then quickly stifled.
The so called 'Golden Age' consisted of a couple of decades here and there in disparate places due to a few enlightened rulers who were less religious than others, with things going back to normal when those individual rulers died.
So if a civilisation has to go back a thousand years to only find such a paltry peak of progress, it really doesn't say much for the progressive nature of that civilisation.
@@HarisPeco-zx8cp
I said 'a couple of decades here and there', so don't misquote me again.
That meant a couple of decades in one place and another couple in another place etc. over a period of a few centuries only.
Not 600 years.
And if it was 600 years, that would be worse, because that would dilute those paltry achievements even more over a longer period.
The conquest of Byzantine, Gothic, Persian and Indian cities (along with Chinese contact) exposed the Arab barbarians to the knowledge, skills and experts of those cultures that just a few of their enlightened rulers managed to patronise and encourage before they died, with any progress then smothered again by religious darkness.
That's why you have to dive back so far in history to find any progress at all.
The 'golden age' is largely a modern propaganda myth fabricated to help ease the massive inferiority complex Islamic societies suffer from due to the huge advancements of the secular West.
Free country my ass
The science and math came from before islam... Allah doesnt allow those. Truth.
Hahaha. Love the fake “no available in your territory”
not available* There! FTFY
I did not receive that message in my territory.. I am still shock for the things that she said.
@@angellestat2730 Same, now i'm afraid some people will charge me and blow themselves up
@@Kumire_921 what did she say?
My dad is from Wales. I always wondered where that was.....🤣
Give us more of this Lady, if you can't laugh about things what is the point in living. All the nasty bits about Islam are written down by Muslims in their holy books and open for all to read. They are not ashamed of a single word and strive to live by the rules laid down by Mohammed with all of the discrimination, violence and expansionist aims.
Try to read the Qur'an with an unbiased mind. Your statement here is misinformed and reeks of ignorance.
With your face like that, why aren’t we surprised that you’re a moron.. you look like you’re past the retirement age, maybe you should try to learn the truth before you die an idiot
@@metasire Maybe some day, would need a lot of booze though, couln't do that sober.
Did anyone else notice that Africa is labled as "Wales" on the map she shows?
"That's wuite a blow tbh" epicness level of corny. & saw that coming from as soon as she said its a sensitive topic
1:08 Welsh empire confirmed on Philomena’s home planet
The religion was not founded by Muhammad, but his family after his death. He only came along some 500 years or so after the advent of Christ, enabling lots of plagiarism, like the angel he spoke to, Gabriel, called Gibreel.
Gabriel, is the angel who told Mary she is to be pregnant with the son of God. Imagine that. The same angel who told Mary one thing and Muhammad another? He met Jesus in heaven? That means he didn't meet a prophet,as no man hath ascended to heaven. And Issac was put up for sacrifice, not Ishmael. Put that in your idahladha, and smoke it.
Islam, a basterd religion yesterday, today, and always. Such nice folks too, what with constant jihad, rape culture, and all.
Then there's the silent majority that knows to remain silent,... or else.
i dont think christians have any room to talk about plagirism and rape culture lol
@BlisaBLisa 90% of Christianity is bogus by Sunday keeping, less sinning by less killing. However, Christianity doesn't have endorsed pedophilia by a book, nor female 4th class citizenship. No better than Islam, other than the creator on their side.
@@BlisaBLisa Christianity sucks too. In fact, I am not a fan of ANY organized religion. .. your point though?? Am I correct in understanding that you mean, the constant jihad, and rape culture is justified or excused because another religion is bad too?? I see this deflection technique used in politics quite often. One group calls out another group's leader or higher-up on some bad behavior. Then, rather than owning the situation, they say something along the lines of "Oh yeah?? Well YOUR guy blah blah blah..." as if deflecting the accusation makes the bad behavior of their guy acceptable because someone from the other side is just as bad. You see it a lot in schoolyard behavior too. In this case... Christians are/were bad, so the jihad and rape culture is not up for discussion.
@@CtDDtC1919 did you actually read the comment I was replying to lol
@@CtDDtC1919 Reading comprehension brother, he was responding to the post above, not to you
It's not very surprising, knowing that england is a islamic country with chariah.
I am pretty sure the math part had already been done by the Greek's and for all we know a more ancient civilization.
I'm pretty sure the Greeks left some math unfinished for the civilisations that followed to do.
@@sebfox2194 True just not the religious muslims, who took credit for whatever happened in the area's they conquered. Theocracies are not famous for scientific inovation.
@@HarisPeco-zx8cp So a Democracy then, I am sure people throughtout the Middle will be delighted to so governed😂
Yes we certainly have a lot to thank the Greeks for. never invented anything🤣 except for just about everything, how old are you five ?🤣
Allahu Akbar 🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
"Sahara" is the Welsh for "far away from the bloody English"
Thought she was going to hold up a series of barely-blurred images of Mohammed. Then we she actually shows a face she says, "Gotcha. That's just some old Arab fella." I mean, who would know, right?
Here in the part of the world where I live, this was blacked out from 0:37 to 0:51. ..... Ms.Cunk must have said something offensive... hope she still has two hands.
LOL! a valid concern! That group is even more prone to an emotional meltdown than a member of Gen-Z being misgendered!
yeah thats not a thing lmao
@@CtDDtC1919 yeah says the destroyers of the world whatever girl
@@shairafaiza7261 first off, I am not a girl. I am an American Indian man still living on the rez my family has lived on for many years. I'll have to check but I don't think anyone in our tribe has been out in the world destroying stuff. I did go on a family vacation to Disneyland and seen some great examples of these people they call "Woke" having tantrums. it was interesting to say the least. Had one "person" scream at me for calling her miss. Never saw them kill anyone though. I HAVE read about those Muslim guys losing it and killing people for saying things they don't like about their religion. So yeah, I stand by my comment. And I have been "corrected" by those woke people for referring to myself as American Indian. They generally say "Native American". Well they can kiss my butt. Some of us still call ourselves Indians with a capitol I, and we're damn proud of our heritage.
Well she started this, didn't she?
The comment section is filled with people either attacking Islam who definitely believe Islamic people are terrorists, or Islamic people either going, "leave our religion of peace alone" or talking about some very, very sensitive issues.
Now here's what's interesting about this: it's not the middle east attacking America to take it's oil. It's not the middle east going, "oh these people and their capitalistic miniskirts and their refusal to let their women get decent abortions, they deserve to die"... it's more or less the other way around.
If you want to attack a culture you don't know anything about, you should visit them first... but you mostly can't because these countries are ripped apart by western politics.
I love Cunk, but I think this is a cop out in comedy. She could've given it a real go, but we know how Muslims feel about being criticized.
I personally don't think it's a cop out. I think the joke works pretty well, letting you imagine what she said, while also laughing at how they make fun of networks being scared of repercussions when talking about the topic.
I love this Cunk! I want to see her in a burka.
Al Jebra. Right, OK. I seem to have heard this somewhere else.
Now it's coming back to me. It's said to have been derived from a reference to a Hebrew era god named El Al Jebra, whose wife (Debra) promised the desert dwelling believers a beautiful Babbleonian Rose Garden at some point.
This "Jebra" method was said to have been used in relation to the ancient art of aroma-thematic perfumery, introduced by none other than Sheik Abu Cuz, the Sultan of Sling, and then Sum.
Where does your information come from? Serious question.
He's joking (Sultan of Sling, etc.). Al-jabr was the Arabic term, meaning restoration, making whole. Also a term for bone-setters. Check Wikipedia.@@michaelfourie345
“…and then Sum.” How does that sound to you?🙂
@@Calligraphybooster I have no idea what you are talking about.
@@michaelfourie345 English then isn’t your native language I suppose, no offense. All of the comment above was in jest. On se moque de nous.
I wasn’t very good at Al Gebra in school.
They don’t talk about Islam the way they talk about Christianity because they know one is a peaceful religion and the other is not
What a hypocrisy! Muslims are being killed in palastine a genocide is happening. Are u sure islam is not peaceful religion ? Then why they targeted in every way
@@zaynep151that’s a weird way to talk about the sided that literally started a war
Read a history book
To be fair, they both do have their fair share of swordsplay 🍆 In the West they decided to become more secular (apart from America) and decided to do wars based on other excuses instead.
I am obsessed with this woman lol
Yup, Sky Fairy cults are the problem.
didnt the mayans happen like 2000 years before islam?
Al-gebra 😂
We already know what you think about us, we don't give a damn
Cowardice masquerading as comedy.
I shoot barebow recurve . Those 100 yard shots are very impressive.
'An irresistible spread - like Nutella' 😂😂😂
The part that is censored.... Is it censored just in countries like Pakistan or everywhere??????
Does it exist really.... I just want to see
the most sensible muslim award goes to you.
does qoran say sarcasm is haram?
It's done for effect on purpose it's part of the humour
We owe a debt to their scholarship. And then they outlawed their own scholarship. That example can benefit all of us.
Fact check: Early Islamic scholars did not do Calculus. Otherwise, everything else checks out. :^)
Not really. Take the false claim about the first universities and libraries. If a Muslim claims something, it's invariably false.
She actually got something right here, algebra comes from the wor Al-jabr.
Hey! I was just about to get some Nutella on a slice of bread.
Philomena Pholomenaie it's for your own survival and keeping your head attached and intact to your body 😂😂😂😂😂
1:09 Wales????
_”al gebra”_ 💀
Well Done😂😂
@diane5140 Actually, not fair. I have answered you three (3) times. None of the answers showed in the thread. Go figure...