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As a side note the chaos gods simply represent and feed on the emotions they represent. Pleasure and pain existed before Slaanesh it’s just that the elder muderfucked so hard that there was an excess of pain and pleasure that it eventually reached a critical mass and birthed Slaanesh. In theory if their was so little pleasure in the galaxy Slaanesh would lose power and eventually dissipate back into the warp. Same applies with the other Chaos gods.
come on man the lying caused by them oonly, without the emotions the entities dont exist, but withot the entities the emotions exist. they induce the motions, but it work without them
Although, who knows? The 40 K universe is full of lies, misunderstandings, zealotry, and half truths. There’s a bunch of prophets of chaos who would very very much agree with what you said originally. Maybe they are lying to get more converts. Maybe the imperium is lying, using a scorched earth tactic to win against chaos at any cost. Maybe they all are as integral to reality and emotion, as some claim, and the truth of that is just too sick and sad to bear, so it gets denied. Blessed be the mind too small for doubt, after all.
Can you imagine one of the space marines to report that their entire squad was ripped apart by a single demon of slanesh that looked like a cute ballon boy.
^This. The Chaos gods are not the progenitors of their respective emotions. They're merely what happens when so much emotion is shunted into the Warp by the subconscious of living creatures. They accumulate and congeal until those emotions coalesce into A Guy (or A Non-Binary, in Slaanesh's case). They are fed and sustained by emotions - they are "Of" those passions - rather than their source. If Khorne perished in the Warp today, the galaxy would continue to feel anger. Over a long enough period, a new Khorne might coalesce into existence. Or something broadly similar.
Yes this for sure. The eldar were definitely having fun and joy before slaanesh was born. Emotion breeds chaos, chaos causes change, changes trigger emotion response. It’s a cycle but it isn’t a close cycle.
@@Bluecho4 chaos gods are not the body but rather the cancer in the realm of souls. They technically the things they claim to represent but twisted to their extremes. If slanesh dies tomorrow you would still have your emotions and excess but not to the point you'd be willing to rip your eyes out to experience the pain of it.
blanks are generally a lot less emotional the normal people also not fully empty of soul since you can burn them out and for the eldar, thats assuming linear time
What if they aren't the origins of emotions nor merely feeding on them, but what if they are those emotions? I thought they were pools of sentient ideas, thus they could actually be emotions on a fundamental level.
More like when you always taste the simple pleasures they become bland, you start seeking something more , Slaanesh is merely the one that suggests excess instead of abstinence to cure the bland
The reason that Daemonettes have crab claws is because evolution seems to have deemed crabs as the perfect final form of most lifeforms! (There is one step and it is become crab). So obviously, why wouldn't crabs influence the daemons of the god of perfection!
14:37 Khorne would have a fitness bro channel Slaanesh would have a diy life hacks/make up channel Tzeentch would have a channel that talks about conspiracy theories but constantly confirms and denies the conspiracy in the the same video, often in the same sentence Nurgle would have a gaming channel but, every so often it'd just switch to his room which would be horrifically filthy
Honestly the thing that i didnt expected from the Tyrion and Teclis trilogy was N'kari taking the form of a naked female elf when Malekith captured him, is such a 4d chess move, he makes Malekith look like a pervert in front of his generals, makes everyone feel uncomfortable in war councils, makes fun of Malekith for not having a "sword" that fully works and knows that he can get away with it because he is too valuable for Malekith's plans, any punishment can be parried with a "harder daddy" and he knows it, such a chad
@@NUMBSKULLS The one I referred to (newest iteration) is played by trans woman so plays more into the gender ambiguity that original novella hinted at, my favourite cenobite is The Chatterer tho 😬 😁
The premier Warhammer Fantasy Champion of Slaanesh is noteworthy: Sigvald The Magnificent, the pretty boy who does wear assless chaps into battle and has a shield polished to a mirror sheen on the inside to admire himself while fighting, so much so he regularly stops in combat, infatuated by his own appearance
Not to forget his Mirror Guard, who wear polished armor and mirrored shields so that Sigvald can see himself as he fights alongside his personal warriors.
Slaanesh summarised? Imagine a deity of sex, drugs and rock and roll. Then take that concept to 11, remove any notion consent, throw in every single weird fetish your mind can conjure, then have it all take place at the same time as Ramsay Bolton levels of torture. Put all that together, and you'll have Slaanesh on a GOOD day 😅
Then also show that THAT is merely the pleasure aspect related to a fraction of what is slaanesh. It's also musical expression, enjoyment of food, etc. etc.
That’s barely half of it, Slaanesh is the deity of excess, as in the excess of anything and everything. Obsession is the primary emotion, the obsession to make the perfect piece, the obsession to sample the perfect pleasure (or pain, the difference is minimal to them) and the obsession to hone a skill to perfection.
To continue, even the machinations of the other gods can feed Slannesh, that berzerkers desire for the perfect kill, the pride the Sorcerer feels in the perfect plan along with the plague marine’s obsession with spreading decay all contribute to the Lord of Excess.
The fact you need a sorcerous ritual and psychic 'wizardry' to summon Khorne demons even tho Khorne hates psykers and psychic-powered things - might fuel Tzeentch :p@@The.Orange.Wizard
14:26 Khorne would have a fitness chanel ("Become the warrior you always wanted to be !") Nurgle would have a medical vulgarisation chanel ("This parasite shredds its host's liver. Let's have a closer look...") Tzeentch would change his chanel concept at every video ("Yesterday we talked about One Piece, today I'll teach you how do build an atomic bomb with scraps !") Slaanesh would have an Only Fan ("I got demonetized on every other platform... Anyway, let's review the latest Bad Dragon wearables shall we ?")
Tzeentch is a Channel i would Subscribe to, but Nurgle sounds also interesting. Honestly i feel like being a Chaos undivided the longer i think. All sounds good.
Its not really if you killed one of the chaos gods, those emotions would cease to be. Its more, the only way they would ever die is if those emotions were destroyed entirely. The emotions would have to cease before they do. Cause theyre formed from those emotions in the warp, not that they create those emotions.
That’s not entirely the case, lesser Chaos gods have been “killed” but something new with their portfolio eventually coalesces. Though with the big four they might recorporeate if “killed” that said maybe killing them might reset them to their more neutral personality (rather than their evil aspect).
@@Anaxemenies Yeah, you could possibly 'kill' a chaos god in some other way, but the emotions still manifest in the warp so eventually either they would probably reconstitute or another god would rise up in their place.
Yup, can confirm. To put it a different way if someone doesn´t understand: The existence of the chaos gods ARE dependant on the existence of their concepts. The existence of the concepts ARE NOT dependant on the existence of chaos gods. Concepts like happyness/pleasure and such existed before Slaanesh. It´s just that it was spawned from the overwhelming presence those emotions had in the Warp.
There has been time before chaos gods when there were already emotions and warp, so that means that existence of emotions and warp thingies is not necessarily tied to chaos gods existence, so maybe you could kill it and it would die and rest would stay, but it will be probably hard to do.
They are demons born from feating on the emotions of mortals, their death would not affect the emotions they feast on the same way killing a wolf would not affect a sheep, but as long as the sheep is areound another wolf would crawld out of the forest to feast on their meat
The coolest thing in my opinion about Slaanesh is also the reason why Tzeentch decided to force the conflict between Khorne and She Who Thirsts. Slaanesh is arguably the strongest and will become the strongest chaos god. As one of the emotions that influences it is Obsession. And Tzeentch saw how when someone worshipped and OBSESSED over him or one of the other gods... it fed Slaanesh.
Really short version; space elves basically ruled the galaxy, and they got bored and starting having knife ass orgies, the psychic backlash of the knife assing orgies created Slaanesh who promptly devoured 90% of all space elf souls
quick thing, the aspects a chaos god lors over shouldn't cease to be after they die. pleasure very much exsisted before Mommy S as did suffering. just look at the necron tyr
I mean Slaaneshs entire lore is bc Eldar couldn’t keep it in their pants they sprung into existence so yeah, these emotions definetly existed before Slaanesh
@@draketheduelist agreed but the Necrontyr were absolutely miserable and psycher or not, your emotions get projected into the warp. However they were a smudge compared to the Pile of metaphorical shit the Eldar contributed to their birth💀
Then again, others theorize the chaos gods are the embodiments of those emotions and their actual destruction would also destroy those emotions.... and since you really cannot do so without removing all emotion-fuel in the galaxy (all sentient life), then in a way or another, the chaos gods would still survive any sort of destruction wrought on them, or they'd be absorbed into some greater chaos entity if weakened to such an extreme, etc.
I think you really missed by not including how Slaanesh came into being. So the nice space elf painted. And after 1000 of years of painting they decided to try painting with blood as well. And so the nice elves loved each other. After 1000 years they loved everyone at the same time. After few more thousand of years they still loved everything, not necessary alive. And so on 😀 Also don't let your girlfriend meet Gigguk girlfriend. If she and Sydney ever meet it may cause Slaanesh to manifest :-D
@@KarilynneDavies Oh no, it's already too late!? 😀 Do we run? Or will you make at least a video out of it? :-D Anyway awesome! :) Honestly didn't know but was pretty sure you will at least know them given the work on Abridge
Slaanesh is also much more than just the 'sex' part. It's also indulgence in all it's facets. What your 5 senses can experience is what Slaanesh embodies. A chef seeking to make even better food - slaanesh related but not necessarily chaos worshipper or corrupted. Same with a painter creating art, a dancer on stage, etc. It's about actions to cause an emotional response. Sex being an obvious one to use as an example - with it taken to an extreme is where the erotic pleasure of torture, where pain is just another pleasure to explore as well, etc. etc. But it can be applied to just about anything 'meant to express something that causes emotion'. As for, well, the whole what is easiest of fall to? That's sort of hard. Slaanesh usually influences where there is calm and 'peace', since it's easier to corrupt when everyone else are not busy trying to murder eachother, dying of plague or scheming themselves into mutation-hellfire. Khorne is war, battle, fighting, survival of the fittest. it's such a core and base emotional need. Suffer under tyranny? Khorne is what allows the subjects under that tyranny to rise up and fight back against it, to fight for their own betterment and survival. But then again, that is also Tzeentch related in the whole changer of ways, with giving the path to have circumstances chance for the better, to plan and prepare for said war and fight against the tyrants ruling over you. And then also again, that includes Slaanesh also since without the active DESIRE to have those circumstances change, to WANT to live, not merely survive, to ENJOY a better existence, to be happy about the fact that your children might have a better life. And then again once more you also have Nurgle involved with that scenario, in that Nurgle is about LIFE as well, to live, to seek to keep existing, but also to be at peace with the fact you will eventually die and thusly giving reason to WHY you may wish things to change, because life is finite. Nurgle is also the liberation of suffering and to be part of a greater whole. Essentially each chaos god embodies the core emotional desires themselves and thusly a basic scenario of 'evil bad tyrant ruling with iron fist' can involve the emotional effects of more than simply a single chaos god.
If your girlfriend wants to know about strong female characters in Warhammer 40K, tell her about Lotara Sarrin, Captain of The Conqueror, Flagship of the World Eaters, she’s a normal lady who literally shoots a Chaos Space Marine in the face, calls him a waste of space and sends him to his room for time-out because he left his post to go fight in War because World Eater
People have a tendency to get blinded by the sexy part of Slaanesh and ignore the Excess part which ruins everything. 1: Do you like sexy things? 2: I sure do, woo Slaanesh lol 1: Do you like too much of those things? 2: … how much is too much lol 1: Definitionally too much. More than you want and more than you find acceptable. 2: … well no I like the things I like in the amounts I like them 1: Well buckle up boi because my kink is “things that you find explicit violations of your boundaries” 2: .. oh
With slaanesh there is nothing like too much people forget that slaanesh is not about excess sex and drugs but about the constant striving to get more and overcome the limits of their experiences and abilities, whether it is a painter trying to achieve the perfect work or a swordsman striving to become the greatest champion of all Slaanesh is about constant pursuit of all that is not yet know to the follower
Yesss your girlfriend is just like me omg I love it so much. So nice seeing someone else with the same views and opinions I have about warhammer Please keep it up you two this is one of my all time favorite series. You two just have the perfect dynamic aaaa I love it
Slaanesh: Slytherin Nurgle: Hufflepuff Khorne: Gryffindor Tzeentch: Ravenclaw This took me too long to make sure the spellings are all correct, but I am still very proud of this comment
This series is awesome! I am currently teaching my gf some things about Wh and I know how hard it can be regarding the sheer amount of lore there is hahahah
"Will getting into WarHammer make me hap-" The IMMEDIATE cutaway... I have no words to fathom how deeply that sundered my soul. Nor do I have an answer to the unfinished question. I suspect I never will.
11:07 the moment his girlfriend mentioned the mounts walking noise while the pic of the Demonette was on screen I just imagined that the Demonettes running with that scuttling sound. Idk if that’s funny or creepy.
stoner lore nerd here, IDK where I read this but in regards to ol' Slanny and the pronouns. I read something once where it's like, whoever is speaking to slaanesh, they see slaanesh as whatever they find to be most sexually attractive. So if you like boys/girls/attack helicopters that is what you will imagine slaanesh to be.
I think it works the other way around where if there were no violence there would be no Khorn, if there was no kink there would be no Slaneesh. When the first sentient with a warp presence started getting a little kinky a proto Slaneesh started forming in the warp, but it took the full on Eldar End of Days party to bring She Who Thirsts into full existence.
A good explanation of the choas gods is this quote i like: "and just like how they need us we need them, just as how the gods are our thought feeling and emotions, our thoughts feelings and emotions are the gods. We can not exist without them." Quote is from if the emperor had a podcast episode 1
Damn... Just learned the chaos gods are just the houses of hogwarts. Korn is Gryffindor , Slanesh is Slytherin, tzinch is Ravenclaw and big granddaddy cuddly nurgle is so obviously Hufflepuff.
@@lordbuss You make a good point. In one sense it's hard to compare WH40k to Harry Potter because 40K has no good guys at all. It's just shades of evil.
@@SilverionX I think that's beside the point. My comparison is to the qualities of the houses regardless. Gryffindor is bravery, so Khorne, regardless of evil. Ravenclaw is knowledge and wisdom, so Tzeench, regardless of evil.
I can't wait for your girlfriend to learn about the Emperor's Children. "So they fight with the power of Death Metal?" "Yes." "Wow. How scary/powerful are they?" "Um..."{Thoughts of heads exploading from the sound cannons and doom sirens}
From the perspective of Fantasy; they were all around since the beginning of time. From the perspective of 40k; old lore had a specific timeline which I want to say went Khorne, Nurgle, Tzeentch all in the span of a couple centuries (Mongol conquests, Black Death, Renaissance) then Slaanesh (Fall Of The Eldar). Modern lore has been kind of jumping around on the first three (I THINK its currently a slow wake up thing where the gradual awakening of Daemons eventually woke those three up) while keeping Slaanesh after the Fall. From the perspective of the Warp; because time shenanigans, once a god exists they have always existed. IE, once Slaanesh was born it was retroactively inserted through the 'history' of the Warp.
I’ve REALLY come around on slaanesh, not only cause she just resonates with me as an artist, I just love her aesthetic. Every chaos god represents a sort of demonic aesthetic. Khorn is fire and brimstone, tzeench is lovecraftian cosmic horror, nurgle is undead underworld death rot demons, slaanesh really has this almost lucifer trickster demon aesthetic with the sorta gender ambiguity like in devil man crybaby which I really dig. I hate the torture but man she is such a cool chaos god even though I used to hate her
2 things to add: 1) You got C'Tan and Chaos Gods mixed up. If you kill a C'Tan, that concept would be removed from reality. Kill a Chaos God and all his demons would disappear. They just nourish themselves on the emotions, they aren't anchoring them in reality. 2) The age of Chaos Gods doesn't matter. If one is born, due to the nature of the warp, it's as if he always existed. We know Slaanesh is the youngest, because we know what caused its birth. But due to being born, it always existed and always will.
You should have mentioned that Slaanesh is the vore one since Karilynne mentioned that in the Khorne video. Reasons: 1. Literally ate the souls of 90% of the Eldar population and continues to eat the souls of any who perish without a soul stone (or the assistance of the Ynarri or Harlequin factions) 2. Vore is a fetish and also includes the aspect of excess (gorging yourself but with people)
some interesting bits of lore. One of the most prominent followers of Slanesh is an ex space marine know as Lucius the Eternal. That dude's deal is that he is immortal, but with a catch. He can die and has done so very often, but if the man that killed him feels the most minimal sense of pride or happiness at killing him, that person will eventually mutate and turn into Lucius, and his soul will be trapped on Lucius armor for all eternity, forever reminding Lucius that he was bested in battle and never to have a rematch again. Considering Lucius has an ego bigger than Slanesh's dong, I say he is more cursed than blessed.
Best story with Slaanesh is the marine who pushed his way through all the realms of Slaanesh. Managed to rebuke all forms of enticement and impulse, but upon entering Slaanesh's chambers just fails right there at their sheer force of power she exudes. Also, no talking about the Noise Marines? Like, sure Khorne Beserkers are cool as they just run at you all angry and kill themselves sometimes as a sacrifice of themselves to Khorne, but Noise Marines straight up turn their targets into piles of pulp and bone with just pure sound waves.
I really like this channel, I just stumbled upon it a few days ago but since i got into warhammer a few weeks ago from the total war franchise its really nice hearing others talk about it. I wonder when the Nurgle episode comes
Only 3 ways to beat the chaos gods. 1: Kill/Suspend all Life in the Galaxy for a long time. Starve them out, straight forward 2: Focus Positive Emotions on a Galactic Scale into the warp until they are overwhelmed. The Chaos gods have been twisted but can be changed to more pure beings 3: Create Gods of Order to balance out the Warp Big E choose 3 btw.
Imagine describing the bad guys from Wolfenstein to some one, asking them what do they like about them, and them saying everything I connect with them in a personal level!
" So, how we gonna do this? You gonna come at me? Me come at you? Oh, maybe together? At the same time? ... Oh, you'll come. *THEY ALWAYS COME!* " - Exalted daemonette squaring off with an Inquisitor.
6:40 I think it is the other way around, the Chaos Gods exist as a product of those emotions emerging within sentient life, and they need sentient life to keep experiencing those emotions in order for them to keep going. In WH40k, debauchery and excess existed for millions of years but only when the Eldar did the big oopsie it became a god. If Slaanesh were to be destroyed, debauchery and excess would still exist
You're 100% correct. Moreover Slaanesh, or perhaps a proto slaanesh, totally existed before her birth, but was not empowered- not a large force in the warp before the Eldar willed him into existence. This is why the "which god came first" debate is tricky (even though its almost certainly Tzeentch or Nurgle)
@@Dan-bq1dz I think the first ones to come first were Nurgle and Khorne because the despair of death and disease and the desire to kill are more primitive and most likely the first ones to become part of the collective conscious of inteligent beings, and as they develop that's when the hope and ingenuity show up, which would then feed Tzeentch. But these three are definitely the primal ones.
in a game of Battleship: Khorne would play the whole thing properly and flip the table when he realizes everyone is cheating Nurgle would be playing with the pieces and treating them like dolls having a tea party Tzeentch would've stacked them all into a pillar and then put them on the targeting board instead of the playing board Slaanesh would probably have started shoving the pieces into various unmentionable locations, because Slaanesh does that with anything that isn't bolted down Malice, because we've always gotta mention him, would've put all of the pieces right next to each other and would've sat in the one place with a mirror behind him Vashtorr wouldn't have been invited because of last game where he made the boats actually fire missiles
Tbh I see the warp as an approximate reflection of the material universe and all the emotions and acts in it. All the stronger ones end up “snuffing” out the others. I’m a Papa Nurgle fan so I’m looking forward to that ep 🧟♂️
I JUST FECKING REALISED THAT THE CHAOS GODS ARE LITTERALLY JUST THE FULLY FORMED VERSIONS OF THE HOGWARTS HOUSES!!!! Gryffindor: Khorn. Hufflepuff: Nurgle. Ravenclaw: Tzeentch. Slytherin: Slaanesh. OH MY CHAOS GODS!!!! HOW IN THE BLOODY FECKING HELLS OF THE HOGWARTS WARP HAVE I NEVER NOTICED BEFORE????
speaking of killing chaos gods in one of the horus heresy books, the emperor and malcador are talking and are implying that the astronomicon is a warp EMP meant to rest the warp and chaos back into the realm of souls from before the events of the war in heaven
Slaneesh is mostly associated with sexual stuff but its actually the excess of ANYTHING - Obsessing about making the perfect meal, creating the best painting, the most amazing drinks, being the fastest at a race, creating the perfect symphony, eating the most food etc. If you obsessively think about and take things like these to an excess, that's also a path to Slaanesh. If you've seen that Perfume movie where the guy kills people to create the perfect scent is the best representation.
Aww, you should’ve told her about The Six Circles of Seduction!! It’s the best place in the Warhammer Universe!!! Everyone there is super happy and having a wonderful time!!!!
"Their pronouns are A/Threat" 1: I absolutely love that. Writing it down. 2: In the old Warhammer books (1986) it says the following: "Since Slaanesh is neither male nor female, but hermaphrodite, the members of the Jade Sphare has invented a new personal pronoun, 'shem'. Thus they avoid the use of the more cumbersome 'he or she' or 'him or her', without reducing to the impersonal 'it'. 'Shem' is used for both object and subject, while 'shem's' replaces the possitive pronoun "his or her". With similar obsessiveness, the cultists are careful always to use the neutral word 'Diety' instead of 'God' or 'Godess'."
favorite representation of the followers of slaanesh is from a Dawn of War mod, wherein your noise marines switch the pronouns of Slaanesh every other sentence. Love it.
Ah yes, Slaanesh. The god of laziness, narcissim, incest, and cannibalism. ...What? Slaanesh IS the god of those things. Just ask Sigvald the Man-Eater.
Chaos God Channels Khorne: weapon review channel with testing Nurgle: gaming channel in the filthiest room you have ever seen Tzeentch: sketchy science channel where he makes the most obscure pipe bombs Slaanesh: Junkie channel where many drugs, ingestion techniques, and accessories for the perfect high get reviewed
Slaanesh is what you get if you don't stop. Like when you earn money and you never stop trying to earn more, eventually you change the method, bend laws, break them, rob, steal and murder all to earn a bit more. At first it's all about you having more, then it becomes all about what you have being more and more valuable. Then making sure other has less, and what they have needs to be less valuable. In the end you realize that if the others don't exist then what you have is worth the most out of everything. Oh and Slaanesh just gave you a high five for getting this far and also have some ideas as to how you can get further still.
On the tangent about khorne. There are forms of violence that Khorne does not represent and actively despises, so these would still exist without him. Passive forms of violence like oppression for example. Khorne is also the righteous anger of the revolutionary against the oppressor and the strength of will to free yourself through violent means.
I had an interesting thought the other day, what if the imperium managed to convince the orks that the chaos gods were physical being that could in fact be killed, and that fighting them “wud be a right propa gud scrap” that way the emotions as a whole wouldn’t have to disapear , it’s a long shot but at the very least ghazghkull would die…probably.
Weird thing with the themes of Slaanesh... They're all about Joy, Pleasure, Rock and Roll, Sex, Beauty, Perfection and Excess, and Debauchery, then as an Extension of Pleasure and Excess Torture Comes out eventually... But, The weird thing is, Literally 100% of Slaanesh's Daemons are Themed around Torture... Torture and Pain are the Most MINOR aspects of this Chaos God compared to every other aspect of them, Yet every emendation of them we see are ALL about that ONE Trait... It's Contradictory... Especially When you consider that Slaanesh is supposed to HATE Khorne, Since ANY War and Bloodshed Makes Khorne Stronger, shouldn't Slaanesh be against the Concept of Wanton War and Massacre just by principle of their opposition to Khorne? If Torture and Slaughter are the MAIN things that Slaaneshi Daemons Do outside the Warp, then Doesn't that mean that Nearly every action done in the Name of Slaanesh ends up Making Khorne Stronger while NONE of the actions done in the name of Khorne help Slaanesh in any way? (Aside from Sadists that Enjoy the Slaughter I Guess? Because Joy... But they're the Exception, not the Norm)... If that's the Case, shouldn't Slaanesh be considered a subordinate of Khorne? And Yet they're Supposed to be Nearly Equal and opposed. That doesn't Feel right if one of them is constantly making the other Stronger while that other one Successfully Deletes the tings that Makes the First one Stronger (Corpses don't Feel Joy or Excess)... As an example of how WEIRD this is, Let me use Greek Mythology as an Example: Everybody knows that Ares is the God of Brutal War and Bloodshed, he's the War God that doesn't think about Strategy and just Charges in and Physically Dominates Fights, that's his whole thing... But, he also has a Minor Association with Rams, as in Sheep... Now Imagine if you were told "This is THE Brutal Wargod of Bloodshed!" an then every Story and myth you hear about him is all just about him peacefully sitting in a Meadow petting Sheep and being wholesome, and he NEVER actually goes to War or Fights anything, EVER... Like, What Credentials Does he have to be Classified as a God of War then? He Never DOES War, he doesn't Fight, he's not even Violent or Aggressive, Yet you are TOLD he's a War God.... Does that Sound Credible to any of you? Because it sure as hell doesn't to me! It's the Same Principle with Slaanesh, we're TOLD they're the Chaos God of Joy, Pleasure, Sex, Beauty, Perfection, and THEN Excess, But All we ever See is the Excess pushed to most absolute Negative Extreme which causes mass Bloodshed, Where's the other Traits?! Like Yeah, I Get that Warhammer is a WAR Game, and everything pretty Much only exists to Kill each other... But would it be so Hard to come up with Alternate Win conditions for Slaanesh Armies that Basically Deal with Making the other side UNABLE to Kill and Slaughter anymore, Pacify them into a Self Destructive Orgy where they forget that they need to eat, or to the other Extreme they Eat to the point of Poisoning themselves with the Excess Food... Or they Just become Pacifists unable to fight or even feel Anger and just become Living Sex toys for the Daemonettes... It's not like Mental Chaos Magic/Psychic powers aren't a thing that could make that happen...And Yeah, the End Result is Still Death, so same end result, but Not a VIOLENT Death (In the Sense of Explodifying Bodies in a Mess of Gore), which would be a Victory for Slaanesh that DOESN'T Make Khrone Stronger from the Carnage... Feels more thematic to me.
8:00 D&D The Tomb of Horrors: A new dark god is being born, and resurrection magic doesn't work anymore. If you want your dead friend back, you have to face irreversible and nigh inevitable death to prevent it.
Nurgle being the first chaos god makes the most sense to me. Entropy was a thing immediately. I'd guess Khorne second, because violence is pretty intrinsic in nature. Then Tzeentch, because you have to evolve higher functions to start plotting.
I just see 40k as an extension of our own history so Khorne gained sentience around all of the wars we've had, then Nurgle gained sentience around the black death in europe, and later the extinction of the south-americas from disease the europeans brought with them, and then tseentch in the 21st sentury
Yo I got totally mixed up when talking about emotions and chaos. Emotions create the Chaos Gods, not the other way around. Thanks for watching! We had a lot of fun with this one! See if you can find all the easter eggs I put in!
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As a side note the chaos gods simply represent and feed on the emotions they represent. Pleasure and pain existed before Slaanesh it’s just that the elder muderfucked so hard that there was an excess of pain and pleasure that it eventually reached a critical mass and birthed Slaanesh. In theory if their was so little pleasure in the galaxy Slaanesh would lose power and eventually dissipate back into the warp. Same applies with the other Chaos gods.
come on man
the lying caused by them oonly, without the emotions the entities dont exist,
but withot the entities the emotions exist.
they induce the motions, but it work without them
I know how to beat slaanesh we need to revive the no horny dog
Yup - there are those (Malcador) who see them not as embodiments or deities, but by-products and parasites that have gained far too much power.
Although, who knows? The 40 K universe is full of lies, misunderstandings, zealotry, and half truths. There’s a bunch of prophets of chaos who would very very much agree with what you said originally. Maybe they are lying to get more converts. Maybe the imperium is lying, using a scorched earth tactic to win against chaos at any cost. Maybe they all are as integral to reality and emotion, as some claim, and the truth of that is just too sick and sad to bear, so it gets denied.
Blessed be the mind too small for doubt, after all.
Tzeench is a master gamer.
He knows how to play Paradox-Billiards-Vostroyan-Roulette-Fourth-Dimensional-Hypercube-Chess-Strip Poker.
Such cranial capacity!
was it not the ultra version ?
@@zeehero7280 The only intricate thing about this game is it's ban list
@@zeehero7280 it’s a children’s cod game when he’s too lazy to even question his all knowing Oracle on whether or not, he will win the next game
@@dragon44048or will he?! Kitten's deck has grown in power
Can you imagine one of the space marines to report that their entire squad was ripped apart by a single demon of slanesh that looked like a cute ballon boy.
@@goldenfiberwheat238a kid who has balloons or is giveing balloons?
@@noobatgames3321 Dear God, I hope that's what it is.
I have determined who is getting sacrificed to the Emperor before they can demoralize the whole empire.
They probably got used to hearing that by now
@goldenfiberwheat238 It takes your batteries
Emotions don't need chaos to exist, chaos just needs emotions to exist. Blanks have emotions without having a warp presence.
^This. The Chaos gods are not the progenitors of their respective emotions. They're merely what happens when so much emotion is shunted into the Warp by the subconscious of living creatures. They accumulate and congeal until those emotions coalesce into A Guy (or A Non-Binary, in Slaanesh's case). They are fed and sustained by emotions - they are "Of" those passions - rather than their source.
If Khorne perished in the Warp today, the galaxy would continue to feel anger. Over a long enough period, a new Khorne might coalesce into existence. Or something broadly similar.
Yes this for sure. The eldar were definitely having fun and joy before slaanesh was born. Emotion breeds chaos, chaos causes change, changes trigger emotion response. It’s a cycle but it isn’t a close cycle.
@@Bluecho4 chaos gods are not the body but rather the cancer in the realm of souls. They technically the things they claim to represent but twisted to their extremes. If slanesh dies tomorrow you would still have your emotions and excess but not to the point you'd be willing to rip your eyes out to experience the pain of it.
blanks are generally a lot less emotional the normal people
also not fully empty of soul since you can burn them out
and for the eldar, thats assuming linear time
What if they aren't the origins of emotions nor merely feeding on them, but what if they are those emotions? I thought they were pools of sentient ideas, thus they could actually be emotions on a fundamental level.
The "fun" Parts of slaanesh are just a slippery slope to the worse parts. That's how they get you, just ask the eldar.
More like when you always taste the simple pleasures they become bland, you start seeking something more , Slaanesh is merely the one that suggests excess instead of abstinence to cure the bland
so how does it lead to bad? @@akmon3490
@@akmon3490Yeah that’s what a HERETIC would say!! Inquisitors are on their way
@@akmon3490 that is a perfect example of a slippery slope.
@@akmon3490 more like exactly what you said XD more of a yes and then a yeah but
The reason that Daemonettes have crab claws is because evolution seems to have deemed crabs as the perfect final form of most lifeforms! (There is one step and it is become crab). So obviously, why wouldn't crabs influence the daemons of the god of perfection!
Well for once they are correct. Evolve to Crab.
REJECT MODERNITY RETURN TO CRAB
@@zeehero7280What is a human? A mammalian crab.
Carcino-something
@@Shythalia Carcinisation
Slaanesh's gender is Yes
All of them, with spikes.
Pick your gender: slaanesh - “above all”
Slannesh gives such gender tbh
It is what you want it to be. Or possibly what you don't want it to be. Or what you had no idea that existed but it's horrifying. Pick any and/or all.
@@sheogorath7915 😐
‘They came into existence at approximately the same time and they argue about it.’
I accept this as cannon.
💂🏻♂💣💥 here's another cannon
Well, given that once they are born they then simultaneously exist throughout every point in time, they are all the oldest.
Orks: i'm a tank i'm a tank i'm a tank
14:37
Khorne would have a fitness bro channel
Slaanesh would have a diy life hacks/make up channel
Tzeentch would have a channel that talks about conspiracy theories but constantly confirms and denies the conspiracy in the the same video, often in the same sentence
Nurgle would have a gaming channel but, every so often it'd just switch to his room which would be horrifically filthy
Slaanesh would be a twitch thot and Nurgle would live in his yard sincehe is a hippie.
@@heitorpedrodegodoi5646 I feel like twitch thot is too easy but, otherwise ye
So Nurgle is Asmongold
Nurgle == Drakenlord CONFIRMED
Counterpoint: nurgle has a mukbang channel
I love my little Slaanesh hat but I find it ironic that your’s is hornier
Wait are you his girlfriend?
@@THEmp31875 Yep 🥰
Isn't he always hornier? XD@@KarilynneDavies
I think she is getting a little too into this one...
Honestly the thing that i didnt expected from the Tyrion and Teclis trilogy was N'kari taking the form of a naked female elf when Malekith captured him, is such a 4d chess move, he makes Malekith look like a pervert in front of his generals, makes everyone feel uncomfortable in war councils, makes fun of Malekith for not having a "sword" that fully works and knows that he can get away with it because he is too valuable for Malekith's plans, any punishment can be parried with a "harder daddy" and he knows it, such a chad
The interesting part is as time went on N'kari started to act less like a daemon. No idea what that implies but it's neat that it happened!
@@NUMBSKULLS maybe that N'kari really liked roleplaying as an elf
@@MiguelSanchezDelVillar Got REALLY into character.
@@NUMBSKULLS They're a daemon of Slaanesh, you just KNOW they're a professional when it comes to this
@@NUMBSKULLSEXCESSIVE ROLEPLAY ENTHUSIASM
"When did you have time to talk to the council?"
OK so through the power of the waaaaaagh all things are possible so write that down.
*waagh (I think)
IZ PRUNOONCED WAAAAAGH YA ZOGGIN GIT
Wutz writin' mean?
The Chaos Gods in summary-
Khorne: No surrender.
Tzeentch: No trust.
Nurgle: No Vax.
Slaanesh: No safe word... or consent.
Malice: no order
Great Horned Rat: Many rats yes-yes
Oh there’s consent, it’s just not required.
@@elijahhayter3026 Slaanesh is the booty warrior of 40k "We can do this the easy way or the hard way, the choice is yours." 😂
@@dukedevlan5457
great horned rat: no slaanesh
The 'Pinhead' from the new Hellraiser's saying fits Slaanesh quite well too I feel:
" 'Enough'..is a MYTH."
Never seen Hellraiser but Pinhead always looked cool as hell.
@@NUMBSKULLS The one I referred to (newest iteration) is played by trans woman so plays more into the gender ambiguity that original novella hinted at, my favourite cenobite is The Chatterer tho 😬 😁
That's sick! We'll have to watch it.
The premier Warhammer Fantasy Champion of Slaanesh is noteworthy: Sigvald The Magnificent, the pretty boy who does wear assless chaps into battle and has a shield polished to a mirror sheen on the inside to admire himself while fighting, so much so he regularly stops in combat, infatuated by his own appearance
Favourite Sigvald moment is still his war with Bretonnia. Because fantasy French wine is shit, and deserves an entire Chaos invasion as punishment.
My favorite fact is that he float a few cm off the ground so he never has to stain his boots and walk on the same ground has everyone else’s.
Not to forget his Mirror Guard, who wear polished armor and mirrored shields so that Sigvald can see himself as he fights alongside his personal warriors.
Slaanesh summarised? Imagine a deity of sex, drugs and rock and roll. Then take that concept to 11, remove any notion consent, throw in every single weird fetish your mind can conjure, then have it all take place at the same time as Ramsay Bolton levels of torture. Put all that together, and you'll have Slaanesh on a GOOD day 😅
Pretty accurate
Then also show that THAT is merely the pleasure aspect related to a fraction of what is slaanesh. It's also musical expression, enjoyment of food, etc. etc.
That’s barely half of it, Slaanesh is the deity of excess, as in the excess of anything and everything. Obsession is the primary emotion, the obsession to make the perfect piece, the obsession to sample the perfect pleasure (or pain, the difference is minimal to them) and the obsession to hone a skill to perfection.
To continue, even the machinations of the other gods can feed Slannesh, that berzerkers desire for the perfect kill, the pride the Sorcerer feels in the perfect plan along with the plague marine’s obsession with spreading decay all contribute to the Lord of Excess.
The fact you need a sorcerous ritual and psychic 'wizardry' to summon Khorne demons even tho Khorne hates psykers and psychic-powered things - might fuel Tzeentch :p@@The.Orange.Wizard
14:26
Khorne would have a fitness chanel ("Become the warrior you always wanted to be !")
Nurgle would have a medical vulgarisation chanel ("This parasite shredds its host's liver. Let's have a closer look...")
Tzeentch would change his chanel concept at every video ("Yesterday we talked about One Piece, today I'll teach you how do build an atomic bomb with scraps !")
Slaanesh would have an Only Fan ("I got demonetized on every other platform... Anyway, let's review the latest Bad Dragon wearables shall we ?")
I would totally watch whatever the hell Tzeentch is making
Tzeentch is a Channel i would Subscribe to, but Nurgle sounds also interesting.
Honestly i feel like being a Chaos undivided the longer i think. All sounds good.
Tzeentch would more likely have an unhinged prank channel, just ruining people's days for kicks.
Nurgle's would be a wholesome cooking channel where you see just how many things can live in a kitchen.
Slaanesh's channel is always 3 clicks away from taking you to your nearest local dealer with a 35% discount
Its not really if you killed one of the chaos gods, those emotions would cease to be. Its more, the only way they would ever die is if those emotions were destroyed entirely. The emotions would have to cease before they do.
Cause theyre formed from those emotions in the warp, not that they create those emotions.
That’s not entirely the case, lesser Chaos gods have been “killed” but something new with their portfolio eventually coalesces. Though with the big four they might recorporeate if “killed” that said maybe killing them might reset them to their more neutral personality (rather than their evil aspect).
@@Anaxemenies Yeah, you could possibly 'kill' a chaos god in some other way, but the emotions still manifest in the warp so eventually either they would probably reconstitute or another god would rise up in their place.
Yup, can confirm.
To put it a different way if someone doesn´t understand:
The existence of the chaos gods ARE dependant on the existence of their concepts.
The existence of the concepts ARE NOT dependant on the existence of chaos gods.
Concepts like happyness/pleasure and such existed before Slaanesh.
It´s just that it was spawned from the overwhelming presence those emotions had in the Warp.
There has been time before chaos gods when there were already emotions and warp, so that means that existence of emotions and warp thingies is not necessarily tied to chaos gods existence, so maybe you could kill it and it would die and rest would stay, but it will be probably hard to do.
They are demons born from feating on the emotions of mortals, their death would not affect the emotions they feast on the same way killing a wolf would not affect a sheep, but as long as the sheep is areound another wolf would crawld out of the forest to feast on their meat
The coolest thing in my opinion about Slaanesh is also the reason why Tzeentch decided to force the conflict between Khorne and She Who Thirsts.
Slaanesh is arguably the strongest and will become the strongest chaos god. As one of the emotions that influences it is Obsession. And Tzeentch saw how when someone worshipped and OBSESSED over him or one of the other gods... it fed Slaanesh.
So its a diversification of the investment portfolio. Got it.
Really short version; space elves basically ruled the galaxy, and they got bored and starting having knife ass orgies, the psychic backlash of the knife assing orgies created Slaanesh who promptly devoured 90% of all space elf souls
quick thing, the aspects a chaos god lors over shouldn't cease to be after they die. pleasure very much exsisted before Mommy S as did suffering. just look at the necron tyr
I mean Slaaneshs entire lore is bc Eldar couldn’t keep it in their pants they sprung into existence so yeah, these emotions definetly existed before Slaanesh
@@sekiddo6244 The Eldar were highly psychic. The Necrontyr... not so much.
@@draketheduelist agreed but the Necrontyr were absolutely miserable and psycher or not, your emotions get projected into the warp. However they were a smudge compared to the Pile of metaphorical shit the Eldar contributed to their birth💀
Then again, others theorize the chaos gods are the embodiments of those emotions and their actual destruction would also destroy those emotions.... and since you really cannot do so without removing all emotion-fuel in the galaxy (all sentient life), then in a way or another, the chaos gods would still survive any sort of destruction wrought on them, or they'd be absorbed into some greater chaos entity if weakened to such an extreme, etc.
@@kinagrill a very good point!
I think you really missed by not including how Slaanesh came into being.
So the nice space elf painted. And after 1000 of years of painting they decided to try painting with blood as well.
And so the nice elves loved each other. After 1000 years they loved everyone at the same time. After few more thousand of years they still loved everything, not necessary alive.
And so on 😀
Also don't let your girlfriend meet Gigguk girlfriend. If she and Sydney ever meet it may cause Slaanesh to manifest :-D
I’ve actually worked with Gigguk - I voiced Zero Two in his Darling in the FranXX IN 10 MINUTES 😂
@@KarilynneDavies Oh no, it's already too late!? 😀
Do we run? Or will you make at least a video out of it? :-D
Anyway awesome! :) Honestly didn't know but was pretty sure you will at least know them given the work on Abridge
Did you know he has a MASTERS IN ELECTRONICS AND ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING!!!
Slaanesh is also much more than just the 'sex' part. It's also indulgence in all it's facets. What your 5 senses can experience is what Slaanesh embodies. A chef seeking to make even better food - slaanesh related but not necessarily chaos worshipper or corrupted. Same with a painter creating art, a dancer on stage, etc. It's about actions to cause an emotional response. Sex being an obvious one to use as an example - with it taken to an extreme is where the erotic pleasure of torture, where pain is just another pleasure to explore as well, etc. etc. But it can be applied to just about anything 'meant to express something that causes emotion'.
As for, well, the whole what is easiest of fall to? That's sort of hard. Slaanesh usually influences where there is calm and 'peace', since it's easier to corrupt when everyone else are not busy trying to murder eachother, dying of plague or scheming themselves into mutation-hellfire.
Khorne is war, battle, fighting, survival of the fittest. it's such a core and base emotional need. Suffer under tyranny? Khorne is what allows the subjects under that tyranny to rise up and fight back against it, to fight for their own betterment and survival.
But then again, that is also Tzeentch related in the whole changer of ways, with giving the path to have circumstances chance for the better, to plan and prepare for said war and fight against the tyrants ruling over you.
And then also again, that includes Slaanesh also since without the active DESIRE to have those circumstances change, to WANT to live, not merely survive, to ENJOY a better existence, to be happy about the fact that your children might have a better life.
And then again once more you also have Nurgle involved with that scenario, in that Nurgle is about LIFE as well, to live, to seek to keep existing, but also to be at peace with the fact you will eventually die and thusly giving reason to WHY you may wish things to change, because life is finite. Nurgle is also the liberation of suffering and to be part of a greater whole.
Essentially each chaos god embodies the core emotional desires themselves and thusly a basic scenario of 'evil bad tyrant ruling with iron fist' can involve the emotional effects of more than simply a single chaos god.
If your girlfriend wants to know about strong female characters in Warhammer 40K, tell her about Lotara Sarrin, Captain of The Conqueror, Flagship of the World Eaters, she’s a normal lady who literally shoots a Chaos Space Marine in the face, calls him a waste of space and sends him to his room for time-out because he left his post to go fight in War because World Eater
The enthusiastic crab sounds gave my day so much more joy
"If one of the gods leaned more towards a nerdy twink..."
*....Tzeentch....*
People have a tendency to get blinded by the sexy part of Slaanesh and ignore the Excess part which ruins everything.
1: Do you like sexy things?
2: I sure do, woo Slaanesh lol
1: Do you like too much of those things?
2: … how much is too much lol
1: Definitionally too much. More than you want and more than you find acceptable.
2: … well no I like the things I like in the amounts I like them
1: Well buckle up boi because my kink is “things that you find explicit violations of your boundaries”
2: .. oh
With slaanesh there is nothing like too much
people forget that slaanesh is not about excess sex and drugs but about the constant striving to get more and overcome the limits of their experiences and abilities, whether it is a painter trying to achieve the perfect work or a swordsman striving to become the greatest champion of all
Slaanesh is about constant pursuit of all that is not yet know to the follower
@@Primogenitor. no, no.
She’s about excess. 100%.
As someone who literally just got into Warhammer last week, this is my favorite series. Please don’t stop.
Welcome to the Fandom.
Yesss your girlfriend is just like me omg I love it so much. So nice seeing someone else with the same views and opinions I have about warhammer
Please keep it up you two this is one of my all time favorite series. You two just have the perfect dynamic aaaa I love it
Slaanesh: Slytherin
Nurgle: Hufflepuff
Khorne: Gryffindor
Tzeentch: Ravenclaw
This took me too long to make sure the spellings are all correct, but I am still very proud of this comment
"Do you like wa-hoo in the bedroom?"
*Akward silence.*
"Sex?"
This series is awesome! I am currently teaching my gf some things about Wh and I know how hard it can be regarding the sheer amount of lore there is hahahah
With every inferior faction explained, we get closer to the ultimate lifeform, the eternal swarm, the great Devourer!
FOR THE EMPEROR
Weird way of saying necrons
GLORY TO THE FOUR ARMED EMPEROR
NOM NOM NOM
@@theflyingeyeballfour armed emperor*
The Death Korps of krieg I shall await to see and hear from you.
"Will getting into WarHammer make me hap-"
The IMMEDIATE cutaway... I have no words to fathom how deeply that sundered my soul. Nor do I have an answer to the unfinished question. I suspect I never will.
11:07 the moment his girlfriend mentioned the mounts walking noise while the pic of the Demonette was on screen I just imagined that the Demonettes running with that scuttling sound.
Idk if that’s funny or creepy.
Vlog channels of the Gods:
Khorne - gym-bro and weapon reviews
Nurgle - cooking and satifying pimple popping
Tzeench - pranks and conspiracies
Slaanesh - art streams and…
…
…
…
…yeah
and stimm boards :-)
Slaanesh: *this channel has been removed for terms of service violations*
stoner lore nerd here, IDK where I read this but in regards to ol' Slanny and the pronouns. I read something once where it's like, whoever is speaking to slaanesh, they see slaanesh as whatever they find to be most sexually attractive. So if you like boys/girls/attack helicopters that is what you will imagine slaanesh to be.
I now have a GREAT NEED to form a band named 'Slanny and the Pronouns'
Ah so a heretek would see her as a toaster then?
I think it works the other way around where if there were no violence there would be no Khorn, if there was no kink there would be no Slaneesh. When the first sentient with a warp presence started getting a little kinky a proto Slaneesh started forming in the warp, but it took the full on Eldar End of Days party to bring She Who Thirsts into full existence.
A good explanation of the choas gods is this quote i like: "and just like how they need us we need them, just as how the gods are our thought feeling and emotions, our thoughts feelings and emotions are the gods. We can not exist without them."
Quote is from if the emperor had a podcast episode 1
TTS Uriah Olathaire.
One appearance and he’s so good.
Cept for the fact that even in that context the person who said it was immediately proven wrong.
@@Zomboy123456789how may I ask
Damn... Just learned the chaos gods are just the houses of hogwarts. Korn is Gryffindor , Slanesh is Slytherin, tzinch is Ravenclaw and big granddaddy cuddly nurgle is so obviously Hufflepuff.
Tzeench is both Slytherin and Ravenclaw.
@@lordbuss They're all Slytherin in the sense that they're a negative force. Saneesh is just the most Slytherin.
@@SilverionX But Tzeench is also Slytherin in representing the actual concept of Slytherin beyond being a negative force.
@@lordbuss You make a good point. In one sense it's hard to compare WH40k to Harry Potter because 40K has no good guys at all. It's just shades of evil.
@@SilverionX I think that's beside the point. My comparison is to the qualities of the houses regardless. Gryffindor is bravery, so Khorne, regardless of evil. Ravenclaw is knowledge and wisdom, so Tzeench, regardless of evil.
This electric socket couple is super cute.
I can't wait for your girlfriend to learn about the Emperor's Children.
"So they fight with the power of Death Metal?"
"Yes."
"Wow. How scary/powerful are they?"
"Um..."{Thoughts of heads exploading from the sound cannons and doom sirens}
GET A SAFEWORD NOW!.... she is becoming a Slaanesh cultist XD LOL
JK Love the video.
“Khorne is bad”
“Our morals align.”
“Because he kills people too quickly.”
“No, wait…”
"I wanna hear about the orgies!"
"That's me! :points at Slanesh:"
That's a keeper.
From the perspective of Fantasy; they were all around since the beginning of time.
From the perspective of 40k; old lore had a specific timeline which I want to say went Khorne, Nurgle, Tzeentch all in the span of a couple centuries (Mongol conquests, Black Death, Renaissance) then Slaanesh (Fall Of The Eldar). Modern lore has been kind of jumping around on the first three (I THINK its currently a slow wake up thing where the gradual awakening of Daemons eventually woke those three up) while keeping Slaanesh after the Fall.
From the perspective of the Warp; because time shenanigans, once a god exists they have always existed. IE, once Slaanesh was born it was retroactively inserted through the 'history' of the Warp.
I’ve REALLY come around on slaanesh, not only cause she just resonates with me as an artist, I just love her aesthetic.
Every chaos god represents a sort of demonic aesthetic. Khorn is fire and brimstone, tzeench is lovecraftian cosmic horror, nurgle is undead underworld death rot demons, slaanesh really has this almost lucifer trickster demon aesthetic with the sorta gender ambiguity like in devil man crybaby which I really dig.
I hate the torture but man she is such a cool chaos god even though I used to hate her
2 things to add:
1) You got C'Tan and Chaos Gods mixed up. If you kill a C'Tan, that concept would be removed from reality. Kill a Chaos God and all his demons would disappear. They just nourish themselves on the emotions, they aren't anchoring them in reality.
2) The age of Chaos Gods doesn't matter. If one is born, due to the nature of the warp, it's as if he always existed. We know Slaanesh is the youngest, because we know what caused its birth. But due to being born, it always existed and always will.
2:37 “Their pronouns are A/Threat and are going to make *your* pronouns Was/Where.”
Daemons, and most of warhammer for that matter, in a nutshell.
You should have mentioned that Slaanesh is the vore one since Karilynne mentioned that in the Khorne video.
Reasons:
1. Literally ate the souls of 90% of the Eldar population and continues to eat the souls of any who perish without a soul stone (or the assistance of the Ynarri or Harlequin factions)
2. Vore is a fetish and also includes the aspect of excess (gorging yourself but with people)
I love these videos, theyre so much fun and the two of you have such a great dynamic, I hope you will keep these videos coming :)
some interesting bits of lore.
One of the most prominent followers of Slanesh is an ex space marine know as Lucius the Eternal. That dude's deal is that he is immortal, but with a catch. He can die and has done so very often, but if the man that killed him feels the most minimal sense of pride or happiness at killing him, that person will eventually mutate and turn into Lucius, and his soul will be trapped on Lucius armor for all eternity, forever reminding Lucius that he was bested in battle and never to have a rematch again. Considering Lucius has an ego bigger than Slanesh's dong, I say he is more cursed than blessed.
Slaneesh is basically Clive Barker's Hellraiser.
A cenobite.
Best story with Slaanesh is the marine who pushed his way through all the realms of Slaanesh. Managed to rebuke all forms of enticement and impulse, but upon entering Slaanesh's chambers just fails right there at their sheer force of power she exudes. Also, no talking about the Noise Marines? Like, sure Khorne Beserkers are cool as they just run at you all angry and kill themselves sometimes as a sacrifice of themselves to Khorne, but Noise Marines straight up turn their targets into piles of pulp and bone with just pure sound waves.
I was JUST telling my wife that i hoped this was the thing you talked about next
When I saw the title I was like
OH GOD THE TENTACLES
It's slannesh so it's more like OH NO, GOD'S TENTACLES
I really like this channel, I just stumbled upon it a few days ago but since i got into warhammer a few weeks ago from the total war franchise its really nice hearing others talk about it. I wonder when the Nurgle episode comes
Only 3 ways to beat the chaos gods.
1: Kill/Suspend all Life in the Galaxy for a long time. Starve them out, straight forward
2: Focus Positive Emotions on a Galactic Scale into the warp until they are overwhelmed. The Chaos gods have been twisted but can be changed to more pure beings
3: Create Gods of Order to balance out the Warp
Big E choose 3 btw.
14:59 most of the battleship pegs would be up Slaanesh's ass
Imagine describing the bad guys from Wolfenstein to some one, asking them what do they like about them, and them saying everything I connect with them in a personal level!
You have no idea how wholesome I found this and how lonely and single this made me feel...
" So, how we gonna do this? You gonna come at me? Me come at you? Oh, maybe together? At the same time? ... Oh, you'll come. *THEY ALWAYS COME!* " - Exalted daemonette squaring off with an Inquisitor.
“So if one of your gods was a nerdy twink…”
Ah, I see you’ve started discussing Magnus.
12:18 HOW CUUUUTE IS THIS SNAKE THO' Happy Hatchday 3 months before (^^')
6:40 I think it is the other way around, the Chaos Gods exist as a product of those emotions emerging within sentient life, and they need sentient life to keep experiencing those emotions in order for them to keep going.
In WH40k, debauchery and excess existed for millions of years but only when the Eldar did the big oopsie it became a god. If Slaanesh were to be destroyed, debauchery and excess would still exist
You're 100% correct. Moreover Slaanesh, or perhaps a proto slaanesh, totally existed before her birth, but was not empowered- not a large force in the warp before the Eldar willed him into existence. This is why the "which god came first" debate is tricky (even though its almost certainly Tzeentch or Nurgle)
@@Dan-bq1dz I think the first ones to come first were Nurgle and Khorne because the despair of death and disease and the desire to kill are more primitive and most likely the first ones to become part of the collective conscious of inteligent beings, and as they develop that's when the hope and ingenuity show up, which would then feed Tzeentch.
But these three are definitely the primal ones.
Khorne would have a ragebait channel
Slaanesh would have a vtuber stream
Tzeentch would have a prank channel
Nurgle would have a mukbang channel
Ava’s laughter at being all-too-seen by the whip question is *relatable* in the extreme😅😇
Can’t wait to when you get to Nurgle and mention his Eldar gf
in a game of Battleship:
Khorne would play the whole thing properly and flip the table when he realizes everyone is cheating
Nurgle would be playing with the pieces and treating them like dolls having a tea party
Tzeentch would've stacked them all into a pillar and then put them on the targeting board instead of the playing board
Slaanesh would probably have started shoving the pieces into various unmentionable locations, because Slaanesh does that with anything that isn't bolted down
Malice, because we've always gotta mention him, would've put all of the pieces right next to each other and would've sat in the one place with a mirror behind him
Vashtorr wouldn't have been invited because of last game where he made the boats actually fire missiles
HELL YEEEEEAH!
"My moral compas aligns closer to Slaanesh than the other guys" .. Man, either you described it poorly, or you might be in trouble...
i mean at the end of the video i don't think she said no to hearing those guys screams 👀👀👀
Never knew Slaanesh's real weakness was a Kleenex lol. That will solve so many battles.
Slaanesh's weakness is rolling her up in a yoga mat and stuffing her behind the sofa while you watch TV.
her talking about the crab mount that what got me you got my sub
Tbh I see the warp as an approximate reflection of the material universe and all the emotions and acts in it. All the stronger ones end up “snuffing” out the others.
I’m a Papa Nurgle fan so I’m looking forward to that ep 🧟♂️
These videos bring me so much joy my local inquisitor is starting to suspect that I'm being influenced by Slaanesh.
Time is messy in the warp, all the chaos gods, even Slaanesh, have always been around to them. Slaanesh is the youngest in the matterium
I JUST FECKING REALISED THAT THE CHAOS GODS ARE LITTERALLY JUST THE FULLY FORMED VERSIONS OF THE HOGWARTS HOUSES!!!!
Gryffindor: Khorn.
Hufflepuff: Nurgle.
Ravenclaw: Tzeentch.
Slytherin: Slaanesh.
OH MY CHAOS GODS!!!! HOW IN THE BLOODY FECKING HELLS OF THE HOGWARTS WARP HAVE I NEVER NOTICED BEFORE????
speaking of killing chaos gods in one of the horus heresy books, the emperor and malcador are talking and are implying that the astronomicon is a warp EMP meant to rest the warp and chaos back into the realm of souls from before the events of the war in heaven
"If one of the gods was a nerdy twink"
*Tzeetch coughs awkwardly*
Slaneesh is mostly associated with sexual stuff but its actually the excess of ANYTHING - Obsessing about making the perfect meal, creating the best painting, the most amazing drinks, being the fastest at a race, creating the perfect symphony, eating the most food etc. If you obsessively think about and take things like these to an excess, that's also a path to Slaanesh. If you've seen that Perfume movie where the guy kills people to create the perfect scent is the best representation.
3:47 WTF was that sound!? What she briefly possessed by a Slaaneshi deamon? lol
Aww, you should’ve told her about The Six Circles of Seduction!! It’s the best place in the Warhammer Universe!!! Everyone there is super happy and having a wonderful time!!!!
"Their pronouns are A/Threat"
1: I absolutely love that. Writing it down.
2: In the old Warhammer books (1986) it says the following:
"Since Slaanesh is neither male nor female, but hermaphrodite, the members of the Jade Sphare has invented a new personal pronoun, 'shem'. Thus they avoid the use of the more cumbersome 'he or she' or 'him or her', without reducing to the impersonal 'it'.
'Shem' is used for both object and subject, while 'shem's' replaces the possitive pronoun "his or her". With similar obsessiveness, the cultists are careful always to use the neutral word 'Diety' instead of 'God' or 'Godess'."
I think she'll have a fun time with the Tau but I'd personally love to see the reaction to the Tyranids
favorite representation of the followers of slaanesh is from a Dawn of War mod, wherein your noise marines switch the pronouns of Slaanesh every other sentence. Love it.
I smiled when the skiyksiskitktit part because I own that mount in ff14 and am a fisher main
Ah yes, Slaanesh. The god of laziness, narcissim, incest, and cannibalism.
...What? Slaanesh IS the god of those things. Just ask Sigvald the Man-Eater.
Chaos God Channels
Khorne: weapon review channel with testing
Nurgle: gaming channel in the filthiest room you have ever seen
Tzeentch: sketchy science channel where he makes the most obscure pipe bombs
Slaanesh: Junkie channel where many drugs, ingestion techniques, and accessories for the perfect high get reviewed
Slaanesh is what you get if you don't stop. Like when you earn money and you never stop trying to earn more, eventually you change the method, bend laws, break them, rob, steal and murder all to earn a bit more. At first it's all about you having more, then it becomes all about what you have being more and more valuable. Then making sure other has less, and what they have needs to be less valuable. In the end you realize that if the others don't exist then what you have is worth the most out of everything. Oh and Slaanesh just gave you a high five for getting this far and also have some ideas as to how you can get further still.
"This is the plot of the Barbie movie" was not the eldritch knowledge I expected to hear today.
no no i think tzeentch came to her at that moment
On the tangent about khorne. There are forms of violence that Khorne does not represent and actively despises, so these would still exist without him. Passive forms of violence like oppression for example. Khorne is also the righteous anger of the revolutionary against the oppressor and the strength of will to free yourself through violent means.
I had an interesting thought the other day, what if the imperium managed to convince the orks that the chaos gods were physical being that could in fact be killed, and that fighting them “wud be a right propa gud scrap” that way the emotions as a whole wouldn’t have to disapear , it’s a long shot but at the very least ghazghkull would die…probably.
17:40 It's like a "whoa... what the fuck am I looking at..." and then you die
Weird thing with the themes of Slaanesh... They're all about Joy, Pleasure, Rock and Roll, Sex, Beauty, Perfection and Excess, and Debauchery, then as an Extension of Pleasure and Excess Torture Comes out eventually... But, The weird thing is, Literally 100% of Slaanesh's Daemons are Themed around Torture... Torture and Pain are the Most MINOR aspects of this Chaos God compared to every other aspect of them, Yet every emendation of them we see are ALL about that ONE Trait... It's Contradictory... Especially When you consider that Slaanesh is supposed to HATE Khorne, Since ANY War and Bloodshed Makes Khorne Stronger, shouldn't Slaanesh be against the Concept of Wanton War and Massacre just by principle of their opposition to Khorne? If Torture and Slaughter are the MAIN things that Slaaneshi Daemons Do outside the Warp, then Doesn't that mean that Nearly every action done in the Name of Slaanesh ends up Making Khorne Stronger while NONE of the actions done in the name of Khorne help Slaanesh in any way? (Aside from Sadists that Enjoy the Slaughter I Guess? Because Joy... But they're the Exception, not the Norm)... If that's the Case, shouldn't Slaanesh be considered a subordinate of Khorne? And Yet they're Supposed to be Nearly Equal and opposed. That doesn't Feel right if one of them is constantly making the other Stronger while that other one Successfully Deletes the tings that Makes the First one Stronger (Corpses don't Feel Joy or Excess)...
As an example of how WEIRD this is, Let me use Greek Mythology as an Example: Everybody knows that Ares is the God of Brutal War and Bloodshed, he's the War God that doesn't think about Strategy and just Charges in and Physically Dominates Fights, that's his whole thing... But, he also has a Minor Association with Rams, as in Sheep... Now Imagine if you were told "This is THE Brutal Wargod of Bloodshed!" an then every Story and myth you hear about him is all just about him peacefully sitting in a Meadow petting Sheep and being wholesome, and he NEVER actually goes to War or Fights anything, EVER... Like, What Credentials Does he have to be Classified as a God of War then? He Never DOES War, he doesn't Fight, he's not even Violent or Aggressive, Yet you are TOLD he's a War God.... Does that Sound Credible to any of you? Because it sure as hell doesn't to me!
It's the Same Principle with Slaanesh, we're TOLD they're the Chaos God of Joy, Pleasure, Sex, Beauty, Perfection, and THEN Excess, But All we ever See is the Excess pushed to most absolute Negative Extreme which causes mass Bloodshed, Where's the other Traits?! Like Yeah, I Get that Warhammer is a WAR Game, and everything pretty Much only exists to Kill each other... But would it be so Hard to come up with Alternate Win conditions for Slaanesh Armies that Basically Deal with Making the other side UNABLE to Kill and Slaughter anymore, Pacify them into a Self Destructive Orgy where they forget that they need to eat, or to the other Extreme they Eat to the point of Poisoning themselves with the Excess Food... Or they Just become Pacifists unable to fight or even feel Anger and just become Living Sex toys for the Daemonettes... It's not like Mental Chaos Magic/Psychic powers aren't a thing that could make that happen...And Yeah, the End Result is Still Death, so same end result, but Not a VIOLENT Death (In the Sense of Explodifying Bodies in a Mess of Gore), which would be a Victory for Slaanesh that DOESN'T Make Khrone Stronger from the Carnage... Feels more thematic to me.
After reading this I agree!
"The only one with titties"... *Nurgle exists* 'Am I a joke to you?'
8:00 D&D The Tomb of Horrors: A new dark god is being born, and resurrection magic doesn't work anymore. If you want your dead friend back, you have to face irreversible and nigh inevitable death to prevent it.
Tomestones were effectively referred to as candy bars by my guild for years 😅
Nurgle being the first chaos god makes the most sense to me. Entropy was a thing immediately. I'd guess Khorne second, because violence is pretty intrinsic in nature. Then Tzeentch, because you have to evolve higher functions to start plotting.
Well maybe sentient beings didn't understand death as a problem.
I just see 40k as an extension of our own history so Khorne gained sentience around all of the wars we've had, then Nurgle gained sentience around the black death in europe, and later the extinction of the south-americas from disease the europeans brought with them, and then tseentch in the 21st sentury
Happy Hatch Day Kida!