I gotta say it… The marketing of Reloop is just genius! Create a cheap little controller just to see if it sells. Then after 6 years let a famous DJ use the controller and let him make endless youtube videos of how good it is. Then when old the old stock is sold out let him make a video of things that are not so good. Then after his video wait a couple of months and release a new 4 track version of the controller with a proper power supply, XLR out, 24 bit audio, more hot cue buttons, dedicated stem buttons and a phone stand. Just brilliant. And i can’t wait for the new version. And no, i’m not hating, just hoping for new gear from Reloop!
@@LiMar28I wish this will come true. Why don’t they make it modular which two 2-channel controllers can be linked by usb-c. The Mixtour can actually be linked to other reloop controllers that supports it. It’s in the documentations. I dug deep after getting my hands on the Mixtour. Really makes me getting somewhat great results with reasonable budget.
@@horacezhen the truth is that I’m in love with mixtour,I own a beatpad 2 and a ready also from Reloop and I’m catching myself playing more gigs with this small piece of art because of its very good sound quality because you can map everything on it because of its portability and finally because I can play with my laptop and the beatpad and have mixtour with the iPad waiting to help if needed connected via the aux of beatpad!So if they make a new version of it I will be the first that buy it and thats a promise !!
@@LiMar28 Great! Hands down the best idea is to make them easily linked together. I can either have more control over two channels or go for four channels if needed. BTW you can have multiple midi mapping profiles on Djay as well! Modular setup def makes sense. All you need to do is to switch the midi profile. Luke definitely deserves the shout out for promoting Djay pro and Reloop. Pioneer has great hardware but the software is just disgusting to use and to manage.
I understand minimalism and I understand portability. What I don’t understand is the limitations that you purposely put up on yourself. Especially when You could easily use an iPad Pro or an iPad mini. Using an iPad would would open up the secondary functions in the software you can’t perform on the mixer.
Bless this man for making a stand so controllers can be accepted in the dj booth at last. Presently, just a few types like mixtour/mixtour LL, Allen and heath 4d, Allen and heath k2, denon prime go, and NI x1. Personally my choice is an Allen and heath 2d or NI z2, or vestax vci 600.
My "mobile/portable" setup (as in: there are no regular Pioneer CDJ's+Mixer available) is NI X1 Mk2 + Reloop Mixtour. Always been dreaming about a hybrid of those 2. Especially having dedicated transport buttons, cue-buttons, EQ rotaries, FX rotaries, and (to me) most importantly a jog-strip for quick pitch-corrections and fast audio scrubbing through tracks. Putting this in a 2 or 4 deck based version. I believe NI D2 and S8 were already very close to this ideal state, but i'm confident my fellow countryman Luke together with Reloop can come up with something even better! :)
Hey Luke! Just read some comments and was very disappointed in some views about this situation. What I see in you is a pro being progressive and inventive. It is always good to not look in the same direction as everybody else, especially if you are a role model for many people. Even if the tools you are using now have less features than a huge setup, they can be improved. And they only will improve if professionals like you use them and rely on them! The art of DJing would be so much more accessible if professional equipment wouldn't weight and cost as much as a car. Many people will profit from what you are doing and I am extremely thankful for that. Keep it up!
About 10 years ago I had the Traktor setup with all their modular units. Z1, X1, F1. You still needed a laptop to run Traktor with it back then. Otherwise pretty similar. Mappings and plenty of buttons and options as to which set up of units I cared to use. Means you can play like nobody else. Even had an iPad setup as an additional control surface mapping multiple screens of macro effects, multiple decks etc. It was just fun to experiment with all the possibilities. Having IEC power connectors on gear should be mandatory these days. Easy to plug in and replace. Interesting to see where you take this next. Have a awesome holidays
This IS the future of dj’ing!!! I love my mixon 8 pro but have been dying for a portable version. To see y’all make something THIS SMALL packed with THIS MUCH functionality is insane (talking about the mixtour pro that was just announced.) keep pushing the boundaries!!!
Yes it what promote phone white a to small and controller white a minimum of button. To use djay it much more comfortable on iPad screen, this allow to do a full mix also whiteout any additional controller. This also add the missing button from controller if need. The reloop controller is great controller for backpack but it already kind of old.
Hi Luke nice to see someone else using the mixtour . I use mine with an iPad on the magic keyboard. I over ride the mixtour sound card with the RME baby face .
The cases for native instruments' small form factor controllers fits this mixtour, as it was based on the ni small controllers. I've used my mixtour in one for years and it has rubber grippy feet and surfaces and raises it up too. Plus it is a strong protective case of course!
Regarding the power cable.... why not build the controller in to a little flightcase, with similar footprint size, but extra depth underneath for power supply & a proper mains connector on the back (IEC or maybe powercon). Plus a bit of space for leads.
Everything you say is correct. But most of the limitations simply result from the compact design. But you know that if you want to use such a compact device. And I think that Reloop has already made very good use of the available space. I use the iPad for elements and functions that are not directly accessible via the Mixtour (additional cue points, effects, etc.). The ability to operate the controller with one hand, which you mentioned, also has an effect here. Of course, it's all a bit more difficult on a smartphone, as you mentioned, simply because the surface is much smaller. But as much as I love the option of using the smartphone for work, it's just too inconvenient for me. Apart from that, this should also be a thing of the past when you upgrade your iPhone, as USB C is installed from the iPhone 15 onwards and Reloop doesn't offer a corresponding cable, at least not yet. All in all, this leaves me with a compact setup, which is certainly not always the best choice, but I still like to use it again and again.
Hi Luke, I really admire your courage, but don't you think that going against the grain is making life overly complicated? I respect Reloop, and Algorriddim, but touching with the cell phone (a small screen, with too many divided functions) and a tiny control that your fingers can barely fit, is too complicated. It's cool to play at a friends party, but not otherwise.
Luke I might possibly be converted to this… I am looking at creating a live hybrid set up under 5-7kg. I plan to travel so I require a production setup and a DJ. My plan now is to focus on making a playing my own tracks and build a catalog. I want to take mixing element of DJing and the decks layout and use a DJ setup like a DAW. I did plan on using Traktor but it’s lagging behind like a actual tractor. The setup would be some like 2 x Novation Circuit Tracks, From drum machine and synths. 2 x Laidback Loop Controllers (See what I did there) And a DJM 450 Mk2 The light weight of all this makes it possible for me to travel and still be engrossed in music the way I want to play it. Think outside the box I think this would spice things up in the live Hybrid world.
Technology has always gotten more compact as it becomes more advanced. This is clearly another example of that. The fact he can show the world that you can do some great things with that small of a controller, is awesome. It’s refreshing. I have seen and watched hundreds of “pro” DJ’s doing shows on massive stages, with 4 CDJs in front of them and they never touch them, so why bother? Why even have them? To look cool? Oh look I’m a pro, I have CDJs. A great DJ can play on anything. This is solely showing all of us that there are options. Period. The new DJ Pro is great software, again, options. Open your minds people
This is one of the great DJ devices I had before getting a full refund after there was a problem with it playing with my Android 12 phone. It would be good if Reloop Mixtour 2 upgrade with new hard ware with added extras. 1. (2 Extra added RCA ports for live streaming) 2. (Universal wire to connect to any phone with Type-C and New Mixtour) 3. (Also Type-C power cable plug) 4. (Finally has a removal battery and when charing, just use your power Type-C plug) Peace&Love 👍🏾
No hate Luke... but everything you mentioned what you do not like is the reason why dj controllers and flagship systems exists. "I only have two decks available" ... only if there were 4 channel options on other gear... The controller you got is amazing but from what you are saying it is convenient when it comes to transport sure, but it limits you as a DJ with all these cheap workarounds you have to deal with instead of just using the filter knob and not have to adjust stuff like that.
@@easyTarget2000 It's not about the clubs/ festival events, this would be good for DJ Busking... Setting up in a park with 2 battery powered speakers 🔊🔊 a 300-600 watt electric genny, small table.. and you good.
He just doesn't want to look like a dork. Jog wheels are for dorks. Unless on cdj. No cdj 700 and above. And conditionally denon players (must offset with other cool points)
Cool watching you be a product manager on a prototype for an hour 😅 The “flagship” scenario sounds like a weird marketing campaign angle 🤮 as for the setup…It feels like you are introducing a lot of complicated issues that don’t improve your music or performance or come close to a bunch of better options. Well, the river keeps winding 🐍 . Maybe 2024 has all the answers 👍🏽😎🖤🐓
Why not get a Xone K2 & an iPad? It's just as portable & it has way more buttons, knobs & faders. You could easily mix 4 decks & map it to your software. I appreciate the dedication to mixing 4 decks on a phone though haha
It sounds like a major amount of the gripes comes from screen size. I know I am planning to go to iPad (Pro?) myself and have the phone as a reliable hot spot. If the adapter has multiple USBs, add my old SP1 for additional buttons. More stuff, but at least it still fits in a single travel bag with my daily laptop.
I’m puzzled by the comments regarding output being 16-bit. The output of this is ANALOG audio, there are no bits. Perhaps you mean that it only supports 16-bit FROM DJay pro? 🤔 I’ve played with this just as fun little controller at home and for travel, and I agree with all your observations. It has tremendous potential, but those limitations are showstoppers. Reloop’s other products are quite different, so aren’t strictly comparable. I’d love to see a Mixtour 2, which addresses all you mention and is designed for DJay Pro 5+.
I thought there might have been a chance of a new Mixtour coming after seeing this video. Just wanted to say thanks to you and Reloop for making the Mixtour Pro happen. I've wanted a high quality version of my original Mixtour with some extra features for years. I'm super excited to get my hands on one. Can't wait!!!!!!
If the new version comes with a Traktor X1 like layout I'm definitely buying one. The only reason I don't buy the X1 is the lack of faders and what I don't like about the Mixtour is the layout (as in the play/cues so close to the channels EQs)
@@RandomTarnished fair. I just got Z1 as a second set up and to mess with at home, but thinking of adding x1 mk3 since z1 is missing transport section.
Hi, thanks for your videos I've been watching a lot of them over the last few months! In fact your last few have encouraged me to try out DJ Pro just on my iPad and I really like it! I've had far too much tech over the last few years and was asked last week as I was frustrated with my last purchase what's more important to me? Is it the tech or music? And for my level its the music, I really do think at times I've convinced myself the more that is spent the better it is! This of course may apply to quality but not necessarily what the product can actually do! I was going to purchase a Mixtour but shops in the UK are saying discontinued now. I'm assuming/hoping now you are working with Reloop/DJ Pro something new maybe about to be released? :)
Looking forward to more integration with 5.0 The MIDI mapping cam be a little confusing. Maybe you can do another video on mapping with 5.0 and something that I'm definitely interested in is Duo Djing with 2 ipads or phones at the same time giving you the possibility of being able to handle 8 decks at once I believe this happens through Abelton?
For a similar full Midi setup, I think a Akai AMX & AFX combo would solve your issues, and it's usb powered. The Old Stanton SC System 3 would be great, but it has no sound card. Or a Numark Orbit to compliment the Mixtour if you want a wireless Midi, It has 16 pads. X/Y axis, and a rotory knob. This would let you go into the crowd and still control the mix. Hit me up if you have any questions!
Time for Reloop to design a controller like Traktor's X1 MK3 with audio interface, volume faders, crossfader and on off buttons for stems and then it would be a powerful set up...
I understand why you changed from Denon, but it's very hard to imagine how this would be better than the SC setup was. Yeah Stems obviously, but there is a workaround for that on any device.
And don't forget, I actually used the phone on my SC's for a good 1.5-2 years. The software part of my new setup is incredible, but the Hardware part can definitely use work. I wanted to make a video to be transparent about it but also, I will have more news soon : )
@@laidbackluke regardless of your gear, you will always be a true inspiration for us :) Can't wait to see what's coming next, hopefully they can come up with something new that matches with your suggestions.
Yeah most of these issues are around the limitations of the functions of the device and him having to contexr switch or use workarounds. Would I use this, no. Am I glad that there is a DJ who has as much experience as Luke with DJ gear pushing it to its limits and trying to update its features and problems absolutely that's a win for the DJ community. It doesn't matter how long this thing has been available how good it is now. What really matters is what they are doing to make this thing a better option for the future and to have another alternative out there for DJ's that can't get into the flagship gear because of
Laidback Luke going to see you at exchange LA in two weeks. I have two questions. that the Denon prime 4 has the new stem features. It is frustrating that it took them this long to incorporate the stems feature besides doing it through serato. I mentioned it before at Tomorrowland Academy that I used the stems through serato but sometimes when I would try to isolate the stems the whole song would be muted. I like the dj app software it makes the stems and beat match very simple to use. I use this app can be used in other “flagship systems” Lastly, what are your thoughts on a dj controller/setup standalone unit that can do stems, play through usb sticks and has a feature like the Roland dj 808 that you can make drum beats on the fly.
I can't really understand why you would make all those control surface compromises. Having a lot of things only accessible with a shift function on a knob that isn't even an endless encoder makes everything super tedious, since you also always have the issue with soft value takeovers etc... My respect that you can do this mind mapping all the time and have fun with it. Wouldn't be for me to be honest. If I need a function, I want it to have a dedicated knob/button. Always. But, well, although you say it bothers you, it would be super easy to add another midi controller, which you don't seem to consider at all here?
It was clear at first look that it was an obsolete tool. Also removing the jog wheel is something I can't accept. I'm not interested in innovations if they don't improve but overturn. We will end up with first an AI and then directly a robot playing for us. And the funny part is that there are a lot of DJs who still complain about those who use the auto bpm, as if there was a way not to use it, it's written on the display...you can adjust by hand of course but hey let's be honest...
Hey Luke why not try out the Reloop Mixon 8 Pro. I feel that would solve a lot of the problems your having without losing any of the functionally of your current set up
Hi Luke! love this series on the Mixtour. I've been using the Mixtour and Algoriddim DJay since 2017! Used it for every episode of my old podcast, Beats With Benji One thing: you have a special edition of the MIxtour, which appears to have different colour LEDs. The version everyone else has only has Orange or Green LEDs for the transport/hotcue buttons
Ah we have a long-time user here! I love spotting you guys and supporting you! Yes, that's correct. Reloop was so kind to make me a special edition for the Tomorrowland MainStage this year : )
Modular djing is the future. The purpose of the cdj setup is to make it easy for DJs to setup and perform at festivals. Like a vending machine for music essentially. I don't think LL is saying none of that equipment isn't helpful. But its not essential anymore. Back in the day (2000-2010) You didn't have too many options. Most of the alternatives sucked. Now, thats a different story. True, you can use a controller for Serato. But now, you can get a pair of Iloud micro monitors, a mixtour and a tablet, and bam. If you can make pro moves on it, then why spend insane amounts on unessential gear?
On their next version Reloop (or next mobile oriented controller) should add a usb-c hub so you can plug another controller like the Neon (or 2 Neon), so you can expend your control possibility on a phone/tablet the same way you would do with a laptop
Kudos for Luke for coming on and starting with cons. So many advertisers or partners would just not like that they would maybe even try to put a stop to it or try to have you do it differently hopefully he was able to do this video the way that he wanted to and by leading with the cons I think that's this partner giving him freedom. We respect when someone who is promoting a product is honest about the product and also showing the things that they're working to do to fix it
This is a sales pitch for an upcoming Reloop Controller, right? Updated Mixtour? 4-Channel Mixtour? All-in-one with spinning jogs? Modulars? Mixer? Players?
@@ItsWesSmithYo Take everything he said he didn't like about this unit, and you've got the new features for whatever it's successor is. ;-) Love your work, mate. 👌
Having been in the Algoriddim system for 7 yrs now I can say that the Rane One (Midi Mapped) has every single feature that you wished the Mixtour has,, besides the biggest feature being the size/weight/portability.
Curious on the stems bit. Is it one of those where you manipulate the control but you still have the (as an example) highs in the acapella or did you cut out the highs and you have to bring it back? Seems like that can get real confusing real quick. Another example: I have the DDJ-SZ and I can change the tempo on track 1 but doesn't effect track 3 (layered). So I have to remember what track has the tempo change when I'm mixing (mashup, out of, etc.) or I can mess it all up ha.
Having always enjoyed the great stuff that the MK1 version allowed me to do, I've been thinking lately about getting a Native Instruments Traktor Kontrol X1 MK3. This model has plenty of controls and puts far more effort into using it as a full controller. But the lack of faders and soundcard forces you to use it either with a clubmixer or add an additional mobile device like the Kontrol Z1.
Love that you are always willing to experiment with different setups. But it seems that your setup is more of a headache than just carrying a USB or even a laptop. While laptops do of course have their own issues, you can always run FX through the laptop if you don't want to have to deal with broken FX on the mixer, and in a pinch, you can easily run the entire mix through the laptop without needing to carry any additional hardware or try to mix on a tiny screen. It almost seems like more of a gimmick thank anything else.
Great to hear this! Love playing with the Mixtour from time to time and it sounds like Luke is working with Reloop and Algoriddim to launch a battery powered, 4 channel, Mixtour like mixer with dedicated stems control, pads, etc. cant wait and hope they add 4 effects paddles like the mixon 8.
I think that reloop should make a device similar to the traktor x1, or the f1 (or better), more pads and more knobs to be able to map them to whatever you want, with the possibility of changing their colors. Another similar device is the Xone K2, but I think that all of those need something more, they fall short. Maybe Reloop can do something and take over the market from those who play on mobile phones and those who play techno on traktor, we are counting on you to convince them.
LL that is a practice mixer you need to convince Reloop to either upgrade it which will mean it will get larger or you use a Mixon 8 Pro I don’t think there is much room to upgrade the Tour
Great video Luke. Love the fact that you’re prepared to try something new and take the heat for doing so, mad respect to you. I’ve recently tried DJay 5 and would switch from Serato in a second if it had native support for my Rane Four. I get the feeling that’s in the pipeline. Again, mad respect for following your own path, please don’t let the haters get to you.
Luke, I barely made it through half this video... Its painful to watch to be honest. This isn't the future! Can you mix on this set up? Yes! But all your doing is holding back your dj talents using this mini controller. Is the flagship set up outrageously expensive? Yes. Its because only professionals should be using it. Your a professional!!! The CDJ's are "instruments" for djs. Thats the way you need to look at it. The better the instrument, they better you sound. If I play guitar and wanted to be a professional, I wouldn't show up to a gig with a toy guitar. I would invest in my craft and buy an expensive instrument that is going to make me look and sound the best I can. Ever hear the saying.... Put in your 10,000hrs and you are normally a pro. Well you have now taken the instruments you have been on for years, and have become an expert on after 10,000 hrs, for lessor quality to try to prove a point... For what? Who is this helping? Is this good for your fans that pay money to come see you play? NO! You have made yourself a wedding dj, instead of one of the best and creative djs in the world. I'm really perplex by this all to be honest. Ok I can understand moving to Denon which are great players, and you can pretty much do everything on them that you can do on CDJs.... But this is just silly IMO this toy controller. Carl Cox is a dj that like to stay up with technology and he dabbles with Traktor controllers along side his CDJ setup. But he is still rocking a RMX-1000 and CDJ's to do his craft. James Hype is killing it out there showing how the CDJs are truly an instrument. Go in your closet and pull out the CDJ's and stop this nonsense already. Be the professional you are, and play the instruments that make you the best DJ you can be. Don't be that artist that people go to see and they don't play there hit songs, or they want to do some kind of horrible interpretation of the song we love. Fans hate that! And while you are trying to see hot cues, and loops on your little phone, and trying to make sure you don't hit the wrong button, your head is down, not engaged with your crowd because your too busy staring at the program. That's my 2 cents. The only reason I wrote this is because Im a fan. Good luck! Hope you make the right choice and give Pioneer a call to get on the next promo video like in the past.
You're so damn right about everything you write. But Luke is now a brand ambassador. And these brands are not yet as advanced with their hardware as their software. He'll know why he's doing this. Either there is really hot stuff in the making for 2024. Or he'll get really good money for his pains.
Every single sentence you said is absolutely true. However I am a EDM producer not a real DJ artist. Having this setup is sufficient for me since I want always do something creative in the production side to ensure things sound new in my set. With that being said, I still would love to have dedicated controls for effects and stems, and tempo sliders as well. I mean cue points are fine to me but using the same nobs for both EQ and stem is so painful. You have to remember which one is turned down cause there’s no visual cues for that.
@@MarkPohlmannLuke has been using the Mixtour for about two years on and off? I am looking forward to reloop using his feedback to work on a 4 channel Mixtour with dedicated effects controls. The Traktor X1 has nice buttons and If Reloop can somehow fit narrower volume faders I am sure it will all make sense.
Thanks for this video. There is alot of information that I'll be able to talk about with my viewers on my channel. As soon as I put your name in the title and talk about djing on a phone my views jump like crazy. 😊
@@horacezhen Algoriddim supports almost every controller from Reloop - so it wouldn't have to work with this fuzzy thing, which was originally designed for DVS support and not for smartphones. Algoriddim's aim is to show bedroom DJs (like me) that they don't need pro equipment, what means: no Serato, no Pioneer. Having said this: DJ Pro is a really good software and it really deserves a controller that keeps up. The Reloop thing is far from that. Although, it's an art to achieve a reasonable result with limited resources. I really hope for Luke that he gets paid well for this.
Why not consider pre-recording your set at home and simply using a thumb drive to play it? It's incredibly compact and efficient. You won't have to worry about James Hype breaking the mixer, LOL
When a festival is negotiating with you about getting booked and they tell you that they demand that you must prerecord your entire set ahead of time and that must be played for your performance.... ya that's the universe telling you djing is not your strongest skill.
I would think doing this on an ipad sitting on an ipad stand would be so much better than on an iphone. you stil won't touch it too much, but when you need to, it won't be so delicate
Absolutely outdated yes, need to work on Mixtour MKII or something else to continue to push on portable DJing. I believe it will also reduce the price in some regions when the new gen arrives, For example in my country Mixtour costs 600 USD "Hey pioneer DDJ FLX4 only costs 300 USD and also works with DJay". Looking forward to see if there's any successor of Mixtour
Also - people need to learn what MIDI is, and what a midi controller does. I don’t know how Algoridim’s midi mapping works, but I use Traktor and I’m ALL ABOUT custom mappings.
Ill stick to the older videos of you mixing a track, scratching the record, doing cuts and giving us djs something visual to attach ourselves to as fans.
For a professional touring DJ this setup just seems a little too amateur in the technical specifications. XLR output and a proper D plug power cable seems like it would be better for your level. Also thats one expensive phone holder LOL!
One thing I thought of on the question of the power brick, Wouldn't you have to carry multiple types if you are playing in different countries on tour?
One big issue with this setup, is that nobody is really teaching this style of dj setup. Aside from Luke. Its easy when everyone is teaching a pioneer setup. But its a bit tricky when only a few videos of this setup exist.
if your fingers have to constantly touch the Phone that means the controller is useless . I would love a small form factor controller but this lacks too much and there's no reason for it lacking so much . instead of turn tables there should be a knob instead of the turn tables at least to move around on track .
Unconventional DJ setups are coming back which is cool too see. Peoples problem isn’t that it’s from 2016 it’s the fact that it’s a product that is being sold for $300 that is essentially just a 2 channel DJ style player. The beginner pioneer gear has had 3 variants since its release (rb,400,flx4) For that same price many people see controllers like the K2 a higher quality product that’s proven it’s durability and includes 24bit audio And for a lower price you can get a Z1 which includes a full license to Traktor Pro 3 (which is $150!)* I don’t think your setup is even bad but I don’t think many are ready to hear about solely DJing on iPhones. Using even an iPad mini which fits in the same space with a mixtour would allow more visual clarity and stigma over iPhone I think algoriddim DJ has one of the best ecosystems around considering that you could use a streaming service in conjunction and prep sets on the train to bus to then DJ through using that playlist on that device, any other DJay app, or even using the playlist inside of another program like Denon Currently I use tidal (soon to be moving RIP stem support) to try out playlist on algoriddim DJ on my iPhone to then fully play it out on my Denon Prime gear Also look into barrel to type C adapters for your mixtour plug, you could then use a 2 in 1 type C charger for both your phone and controller
The only positive I can see here is being responsible for your own equipment, and not having someone else trash it before you play. Everything else seems to be a negative.
So James Hype, a guy that beats the piss out of gear & wonders why faders are flying off is a perfect example of why folks should transition to an antiquated controller that does a so so job at controlling this futuristic app that only caters to those residing within the Apple Bubble... I'm not sure if you're advocating for Reloop & Algoriddim or giving folks reasons to run from it.
Reloop need to make a d2 like what traktor did how cool it would be just using them with stems and dvs it makes sense that reloop make something like that
I forgot to add if reloop make a similar d2 system it could work with serato and midi map to traktor you could put mini jogs on it if required sell each one for about 350 so a pair would cost 700 that’s the price of a mid range controller.
I love my boy but he ain’t selling me on it 🤣 ain’t no way you’re convincing me this is more practical then pulling up with a USB I rather prep stems and edits to use on 4 cdj’s , that’s really the only thing you’re missing out on with a flagship set up
respect to James for the skill but no wonder DJ equipment ends up broken with guys like that using it, the flagships are built really well but slamming the volume faders and hammering the buttons the way he does is bound to break a few things. I've noticed at a lot of shows that the equipment is working fine for everyone else and then when it's James' set it's all of a sudden broken 10 minutes in.
The future is clip based launching programs like Ableton or Bitwig performance mode. Problem is there is too much preparation in creating sets. If they made it easier to load, cue, and play stems and single tracks then 90% of us would never look at a dj controller again.
💯and I’ve tried a few ways to make this happen as an alternative to the “flagship”. When the crate management and plug/play deck style controller gets sorted for session view, it’s game over. Ableton is close and really has the look/feel figured out with PUSH. W/these M series processors and near fault free reliability next 5 years should be interesting.
I know allot of people are going to flat out hate this but what I’ve come to realise is you don’t play for other DJs. You play for people who want to see you play. Allot of the older DJs I know who used slate laptops are all using controllers now 😂 What the people who hate on things don’t realise is that they are the biggest mascots for the very thing they hate. They pump the thing around the algorithm. I honest don’t care what people use anymore we are all here to do the same thing which is being people together and dance. People having equipment some doesn’t like is the first world of first world problems. You could be DJing of a toaster and at least your not hurting someone
I gotta say it… The marketing of Reloop is just genius! Create a cheap little controller just to see if it sells. Then after 6 years let a famous DJ use the controller and let him make endless youtube videos of how good it is. Then when old the old stock is sold out let him make a video of things that are not so good. Then after his video wait a couple of months and release a new 4 track version of the controller with a proper power supply, XLR out, 24 bit audio, more hot cue buttons, dedicated stem buttons and a phone stand. Just brilliant. And i can’t wait for the new version. And no, i’m not hating, just hoping for new gear from Reloop!
Great thought my friend!The only that I disagree is that if the make it with four channels it will lose its portability
Exactly, brilliant marketing strategy.
@@LiMar28I wish this will come true. Why don’t they make it modular which two 2-channel controllers can be linked by usb-c. The Mixtour can actually be linked to other reloop controllers that supports it. It’s in the documentations. I dug deep after getting my hands on the Mixtour. Really makes me getting somewhat great results with reasonable budget.
@@horacezhen the truth is that I’m in love with mixtour,I own a beatpad 2 and a ready also from Reloop and I’m catching myself playing more gigs with this small piece of art because of its very good sound quality because you can map everything on it because of its portability and finally because I can play with my laptop and the beatpad and have mixtour with the iPad waiting to help if needed connected via the aux of beatpad!So if they make a new version of it I will be the first that buy it and thats a promise !!
@@LiMar28 Great! Hands down the best idea is to make them easily linked together. I can either have more control over two channels or go for four channels if needed. BTW you can have multiple midi mapping profiles on Djay as well! Modular setup def makes sense. All you need to do is to switch the midi profile. Luke definitely deserves the shout out for promoting Djay pro and Reloop. Pioneer has great hardware but the software is just disgusting to use and to manage.
I understand minimalism and I understand portability.
What I don’t understand is the limitations that you purposely put up on yourself. Especially when You could easily use an iPad Pro or an iPad mini.
Using an iPad would would open up the secondary functions in the software you can’t perform on the mixer.
Bless this man for making a stand so controllers can be accepted in the dj booth at last. Presently, just a few types like mixtour/mixtour LL, Allen and heath 4d, Allen and heath k2, denon prime go, and NI x1. Personally my choice is an Allen and heath 2d or NI z2, or vestax vci 600.
My "mobile/portable" setup (as in: there are no regular Pioneer CDJ's+Mixer available) is NI X1 Mk2 + Reloop Mixtour. Always been dreaming about a hybrid of those 2. Especially having dedicated transport buttons, cue-buttons, EQ rotaries, FX rotaries, and (to me) most importantly a jog-strip for quick pitch-corrections and fast audio scrubbing through tracks. Putting this in a 2 or 4 deck based version. I believe NI D2 and S8 were already very close to this ideal state, but i'm confident my fellow countryman Luke together with Reloop can come up with something even better! :)
Hey Luke! Just read some comments and was very disappointed in some views about this situation. What I see in you is a pro being progressive and inventive. It is always good to not look in the same direction as everybody else, especially if you are a role model for many people. Even if the tools you are using now have less features than a huge setup, they can be improved. And they only will improve if professionals like you use them and rely on them!
The art of DJing would be so much more accessible if professional equipment wouldn't weight and cost as much as a car.
Many people will profit from what you are doing and I am extremely thankful for that. Keep it up!
You just made my day with this comment, thank you so much for this! I'm so happy you see the bigger picture in this ❤
About 10 years ago I had the Traktor setup with all their modular units. Z1, X1, F1. You still needed a laptop to run Traktor with it back then. Otherwise pretty similar. Mappings and plenty of buttons and options as to which set up of units I cared to use. Means you can play like nobody else. Even had an iPad setup as an additional control surface mapping multiple screens of macro effects, multiple decks etc. It was just fun to experiment with all the possibilities.
Having IEC power connectors on gear should be mandatory these days. Easy to plug in and replace.
Interesting to see where you take this next.
Have a awesome holidays
This IS the future of dj’ing!!! I love my mixon 8 pro but have been dying for a portable version. To see y’all make something THIS SMALL packed with THIS MUCH functionality is insane (talking about the mixtour pro that was just announced.) keep pushing the boundaries!!!
Yes it what promote phone white a to small and controller white a minimum of button. To use djay it much more comfortable on iPad screen, this allow to do a full mix also whiteout any additional controller. This also add the missing button from controller if need.
The reloop controller is great controller for backpack but it already kind of old.
Hi Luke nice to see someone else using the mixtour . I use mine with an iPad on the magic keyboard. I over ride the mixtour sound card with the RME baby face .
okay, but maybe you can get reloop to make a mixtour 2. ^^
The cases for native instruments' small form factor controllers fits this mixtour, as it was based on the ni small controllers. I've used my mixtour in one for years and it has rubber grippy feet and surfaces and raises it up too. Plus it is a strong protective case of course!
Regarding the power cable.... why not build the controller in to a little flightcase, with similar footprint size, but extra depth underneath for power supply & a proper mains connector on the back (IEC or maybe powercon). Plus a bit of space for leads.
Everything you say is correct. But most of the limitations simply result from the compact design. But you know that if you want to use such a compact device. And I think that Reloop has already made very good use of the available space.
I use the iPad for elements and functions that are not directly accessible via the Mixtour (additional cue points, effects, etc.). The ability to operate the controller with one hand, which you mentioned, also has an effect here. Of course, it's all a bit more difficult on a smartphone, as you mentioned, simply because the surface is much smaller. But as much as I love the option of using the smartphone for work, it's just too inconvenient for me. Apart from that, this should also be a thing of the past when you upgrade your iPhone, as USB C is installed from the iPhone 15 onwards and Reloop doesn't offer a corresponding cable, at least not yet.
All in all, this leaves me with a compact setup, which is certainly not always the best choice, but I still like to use it again and again.
Hi Luke, I really admire your courage, but don't you think that going against the grain is making life overly complicated? I respect Reloop, and Algorriddim, but touching with the cell phone (a small screen, with too many divided functions) and a tiny control that your fingers can barely fit, is too complicated. It's cool to play at a friends party, but not otherwise.
If size gives an extra dimension for you, you could use a laptop instead of the mobile. Joris Voorn, loco dice etc use it like that.
by doing this hes becoming more popular, this is great marketing!! Very smart actually!
Luke I might possibly be converted to this…
I am looking at creating a live hybrid set up under 5-7kg. I plan to travel so I require a production setup and a DJ.
My plan now is to focus on making a playing my own tracks and build a catalog.
I want to take mixing element of DJing and the decks layout and use a DJ setup like a DAW.
I did plan on using Traktor but it’s lagging behind like a actual tractor.
The setup would be some like
2 x Novation Circuit Tracks, From drum machine and synths.
2 x Laidback Loop Controllers (See what I did there)
And a DJM 450 Mk2
The light weight of all this makes it possible for me to travel and still be engrossed in music the way I want to play it.
Think outside the box I think this would spice things up in the live Hybrid world.
Technology has always gotten more compact as it becomes more advanced. This is clearly another example of that. The fact he can show the world that you can do some great things with that small of a controller, is awesome. It’s refreshing. I have seen and watched hundreds of “pro” DJ’s doing shows on massive stages, with 4 CDJs in front of them and they never touch them, so why bother? Why even have them? To look cool? Oh look I’m a pro, I have CDJs. A great DJ can play on anything. This is solely showing all of us that there are options. Period. The new DJ Pro is great software, again, options. Open your minds people
I really love this comment! I'm happy you see that!
u use for in the same way u use to mashup and u dont stop another beat and another acappela from another 2 songs
thats why u use 4 CDJS
This is one of the great DJ devices I had before getting a full refund after there was a problem with it playing with my Android 12 phone. It would be good if Reloop Mixtour 2 upgrade with new hard ware with added extras. 1. (2 Extra added RCA ports for live streaming)
2. (Universal wire to connect to any phone with Type-C and New Mixtour)
3. (Also Type-C power cable plug)
4. (Finally has a removal battery and when charing, just use your power Type-C plug) Peace&Love 👍🏾
No hate Luke... but everything you mentioned what you do not like is the reason why dj controllers and flagship systems exists. "I only have two decks available" ... only if there were 4 channel options on other gear... The controller you got is amazing but from what you are saying it is convenient when it comes to transport sure, but it limits you as a DJ with all these cheap workarounds you have to deal with instead of just using the filter knob and not have to adjust stuff like that.
It's not even convenient in terms of transport. DJs who play on Pioneer gear just bring a USB drive.
@@easyTarget2000 It's not about the clubs/ festival events, this would be good for DJ Busking... Setting up in a park with 2 battery powered speakers 🔊🔊 a 300-600 watt electric genny, small table.. and you good.
He just doesn't want to look like a dork. Jog wheels are for dorks. Unless on cdj. No cdj 700 and above. And conditionally denon players (must offset with other cool points)
Cool watching you be a product manager on a prototype for an hour 😅 The “flagship” scenario sounds like a weird marketing campaign angle 🤮 as for the setup…It feels like you are introducing a lot of complicated issues that don’t improve your music or performance or come close to a bunch of better options. Well, the river keeps winding 🐍 . Maybe 2024 has all the answers 👍🏽😎🖤🐓
Thanks for working with reloop and reviewing mixtour.
The future is here!
Why not get a Xone K2 & an iPad? It's just as portable & it has way more buttons, knobs & faders. You could easily mix 4 decks & map it to your software.
I appreciate the dedication to mixing 4 decks on a phone though haha
Traktor had their Z1 since 2013🤷🏽 numark has the dj2go as well as their PT01 in case you wanna scratch on a portable set up.
It sounds like a major amount of the gripes comes from screen size. I know I am planning to go to iPad (Pro?) myself and have the phone as a reliable hot spot. If the adapter has multiple USBs, add my old SP1 for additional buttons. More stuff, but at least it still fits in a single travel bag with my daily laptop.
I’m puzzled by the comments regarding output being 16-bit. The output of this is ANALOG audio, there are no bits. Perhaps you mean that it only supports 16-bit FROM DJay pro? 🤔
I’ve played with this just as fun little controller at home and for travel, and I agree with all your observations. It has tremendous potential, but those limitations are showstoppers. Reloop’s other products are quite different, so aren’t strictly comparable. I’d love to see a Mixtour 2, which addresses all you mention and is designed for DJay Pro 5+.
DAC convertor inside
@@imusiccollection - yes, correct - INSIDE, therefore no 16-bit output.
I thought there might have been a chance of a new Mixtour coming after seeing this video. Just wanted to say thanks to you and Reloop for making the Mixtour Pro happen. I've wanted a high quality version of my original Mixtour with some extra features for years. I'm super excited to get my hands on one. Can't wait!!!!!!
I guess that a new mixtour is on the way till summer of 2024…
If the new version comes with a Traktor X1 like layout I'm definitely buying one. The only reason I don't buy the X1 is the lack of faders and what I don't like about the Mixtour is the layout (as in the play/cues so close to the channels EQs)
why not pair x1 with z1 ?
@@pipsic I just want one small controller. Xone K2 could work too. Other than that I'd probably choose the FLX4.
@@RandomTarnished fair. I just got Z1 as a second set up and to mess with at home, but thinking of adding x1 mk3 since z1 is missing transport section.
Hi, thanks for your videos I've been watching a lot of them over the last few months! In fact your last few have encouraged me to try out DJ Pro just on my iPad and I really like it! I've had far too much tech over the last few years and was asked last week as I was frustrated with my last purchase what's more important to me? Is it the tech or music? And for my level its the music, I really do think at times I've convinced myself the more that is spent the better it is! This of course may apply to quality but not necessarily what the product can actually do! I was going to purchase a Mixtour but shops in the UK are saying discontinued now. I'm assuming/hoping now you are working with Reloop/DJ Pro something new maybe about to be released? :)
Looking forward to more integration with 5.0 The MIDI mapping cam be a little confusing. Maybe you can do another video on mapping with 5.0 and something that I'm definitely interested in is Duo Djing with 2 ipads or phones at the same time giving you the possibility of being able to handle 8 decks at once I believe this happens through Abelton?
I've the that same mixer and those are the exact issues that came up for me. The biggest one was the sound quality. Good video.
I'm so happy you enjoyed the video. And the whole Duo DJing thing is next level! Definitely a bridge we will need to cross in the near future!
For a similar full Midi setup, I think a Akai AMX & AFX combo would solve your issues, and it's usb powered.
The Old Stanton SC System 3 would be great, but it has no sound card.
Or a Numark Orbit to compliment the Mixtour if you want a wireless Midi, It has 16 pads. X/Y axis, and a rotory knob. This would let you go into the crowd and still control the mix.
Hit me up if you have any questions!
Time for Reloop to design a controller like Traktor's X1 MK3 with audio interface, volume faders, crossfader and on off buttons for stems and then it would be a powerful set up...
I understand why you changed from Denon, but it's very hard to imagine how this would be better than the SC setup was. Yeah Stems obviously, but there is a workaround for that on any device.
And don't forget, I actually used the phone on my SC's for a good 1.5-2 years. The software part of my new setup is incredible, but the Hardware part can definitely use work. I wanted to make a video to be transparent about it but also, I will have more news soon : )
@@laidbackluke regardless of your gear, you will always be a true inspiration for us :) Can't wait to see what's coming next, hopefully they can come up with something new that matches with your suggestions.
Yeah most of these issues are around the limitations of the functions of the device and him having to contexr switch or use workarounds. Would I use this, no. Am I glad that there is a DJ who has as much experience as Luke with DJ gear pushing it to its limits and trying to update its features and problems absolutely that's a win for the DJ community.
It doesn't matter how long this thing has been available how good it is now. What really matters is what they are doing to make this thing a better option for the future and to have another alternative out there for DJ's that can't get into the flagship gear because of
Laidback Luke going to see you at exchange LA in two weeks.
I have two questions. that the Denon prime 4 has the new stem features. It is frustrating that it took them this long to incorporate the stems feature besides doing it through serato. I mentioned it before at Tomorrowland Academy that I used the stems through serato but sometimes when I would try to isolate the stems the whole song would be muted. I like the dj app software it makes the stems and beat match very simple to use. I use this app can be used in other “flagship systems”
Lastly, what are your thoughts on a dj controller/setup standalone unit that can do stems, play through usb sticks and has a feature like the Roland dj 808 that you can make drum beats on the fly.
So glad I got to see Luke while he was with the denon team.
Looking forward to future hardware releases that are specific to algoriddim. Especially with your push and guidance.
That's the way forward
I'm happy you see the bigger picture, more news soon!
LL is obviously working on a new reloop gear...which is excellent news
I can't really understand why you would make all those control surface compromises. Having a lot of things only accessible with a shift function on a knob that isn't even an endless encoder makes everything super tedious, since you also always have the issue with soft value takeovers etc...
My respect that you can do this mind mapping all the time and have fun with it. Wouldn't be for me to be honest. If I need a function, I want it to have a dedicated knob/button. Always.
But, well, although you say it bothers you, it would be super easy to add another midi controller, which you don't seem to consider at all here?
It was clear at first look that it was an obsolete tool. Also removing the jog wheel is something I can't accept. I'm not interested in innovations if they don't improve but overturn. We will end up with first an AI and then directly a robot playing for us. And the funny part is that there are a lot of DJs who still complain about those who use the auto bpm, as if there was a way not to use it, it's written on the display...you can adjust by hand of course but hey let's be honest...
Hey Luke why not try out the Reloop Mixon 8 Pro. I feel that would solve a lot of the problems your having without losing any of the functionally of your current set up
I have it and I love it! It's a beauty. The only thing is I can't travel with it and I don't want to burden the promoters with tech demands anymore.
in my opinion, he is quiet on the master.What do you think about it?
lol, a nice phone stand. This reminds me of when digital DJs put their laptops on top of turntables.
Hi Luke! love this series on the Mixtour. I've been using the Mixtour and Algoriddim DJay since 2017! Used it for every episode of my old podcast, Beats With Benji
One thing: you have a special edition of the MIxtour, which appears to have different colour LEDs. The version everyone else has only has Orange or Green LEDs for the transport/hotcue buttons
Ah we have a long-time user here! I love spotting you guys and supporting you! Yes, that's correct. Reloop was so kind to make me a special edition for the Tomorrowland MainStage this year : )
I was wondering, have you ever thought about teaching some courses at a couple colleges on this industry of DJIng?
Modular djing is the future. The purpose of the cdj setup is to make it easy for DJs to setup and perform at festivals. Like a vending machine for music essentially. I don't think LL is saying none of that equipment isn't helpful. But its not essential anymore. Back in the day (2000-2010) You didn't have too many options. Most of the alternatives sucked. Now, thats a different story. True, you can use a controller for Serato. But now, you can get a pair of Iloud micro monitors, a mixtour and a tablet, and bam. If you can make pro moves on it, then why spend insane amounts on unessential gear?
On their next version Reloop (or next mobile oriented controller) should add a usb-c hub so you can plug another controller like the Neon (or 2 Neon), so you can expend your control possibility on a phone/tablet the same way you would do with a laptop
In these controller mixtour, do you have a CUE in an earphones?
Yes, bro
Kudos for Luke for coming on and starting with cons. So many advertisers or partners would just not like that they would maybe even try to put a stop to it or try to have you do it differently hopefully he was able to do this video the way that he wanted to and by leading with the cons I think that's this partner giving him freedom.
We respect when someone who is promoting a product is honest about the product and also showing the things that they're working to do to fix it
we need a Mixtour V2 with 8 extra encoders! Like the Xone K2 :P
A for effort in trying sell a device that no one really needs nor wants in mass. DJing on an odd toy might well use the little Hercules controller.
This is a sales pitch for an upcoming Reloop Controller, right?
Updated Mixtour? 4-Channel Mixtour? All-in-one with spinning jogs? Modulars? Mixer? Players?
I hope so, this feels like marketing and product development customer research 101. Here for the movie 🍿
@@ItsWesSmithYo Take everything he said he didn't like about this unit, and you've got the new features for whatever it's successor is. ;-)
Love your work, mate. 👌
@@djpatch6754 let’s gooooo 😎
Having been in the Algoriddim system for 7 yrs now I can say that the Rane One (Midi Mapped) has every single feature that you wished the Mixtour has,, besides the biggest feature being the size/weight/portability.
The Rane One is an awesome piece right? Similarly Reloop has the Elite mixer, which I also have and it's so good!
Curious on the stems bit. Is it one of those where you manipulate the control but you still have the (as an example) highs in the acapella or did you cut out the highs and you have to bring it back? Seems like that can get real confusing real quick.
Another example: I have the DDJ-SZ and I can change the tempo on track 1 but doesn't effect track 3 (layered). So I have to remember what track has the tempo change when I'm mixing (mashup, out of, etc.) or I can mess it all up ha.
Check Dj city recent amazing review of it!
Can you do a Hip Hop mix or R&B mix. All I see is drum and bass or techno with the same beats
I think I'll test a Mixtour with an LC6000 for my light setup.
Having always enjoyed the great stuff that the MK1 version allowed me to do, I've been thinking lately about getting a Native Instruments Traktor Kontrol X1 MK3. This model has plenty of controls and puts far more effort into using it as a full controller. But the lack of faders and soundcard forces you to use it either with a clubmixer or add an additional mobile device like the Kontrol Z1.
I'd say hold off on that for the moment! Please wait until the 3rd week of January to be specific : )
@@laidbackluke Thks for the tip, I'll keep an eye on Reloop announcements then.
@laidbackluke hey thanks for the hot tip, I will wait for then for my Mixtour upgrade.
Love that you are always willing to experiment with different setups. But it seems that your setup is more of a headache than just carrying a USB or even a laptop. While laptops do of course have their own issues, you can always run FX through the laptop if you don't want to have to deal with broken FX on the mixer, and in a pinch, you can easily run the entire mix through the laptop without needing to carry any additional hardware or try to mix on a tiny screen. It almost seems like more of a gimmick thank anything else.
Great to hear this! Love playing with the Mixtour from time to time and it
sounds like Luke is working with Reloop and Algoriddim to launch a battery powered, 4 channel, Mixtour like mixer with dedicated stems control, pads, etc. cant wait and hope they add 4 effects paddles like the mixon 8.
Hope we will do you right sir!
And only a few weeks away!
I really like that you think out of the box.
... why no iPad and, if possible, 2 controllers 4 4 channel mixing?
I would just get a Allen & Heath Xone K2 and map out the buttons you need.
Excellent what you’ re doing with reloop
I think that reloop should make a device similar to the traktor x1, or the f1 (or better), more pads and more knobs to be able to map them to whatever you want, with the possibility of changing their colors. Another similar device is the Xone K2, but I think that all of those need something more, they fall short. Maybe Reloop can do something and take over the market from those who play on mobile phones and those who play techno on traktor, we are counting on you to convince them.
LL that is a practice mixer you need to convince Reloop to either upgrade it which will mean it will get larger or you use a Mixon 8 Pro I don’t think there is much room to upgrade the Tour
Great video Luke. Love the fact that you’re prepared to try something new and take the heat for doing so, mad respect to you.
I’ve recently tried DJay 5 and would switch from Serato in a second if it had native support for my Rane Four. I get the feeling that’s in the pipeline.
Again, mad respect for following your own path, please don’t let the haters get to you.
Is that true a need Mixtour machine js coming soon ?
Luke, I barely made it through half this video... Its painful to watch to be honest. This isn't the future! Can you mix on this set up? Yes! But all your doing is holding back your dj talents using this mini controller. Is the flagship set up outrageously expensive? Yes. Its because only professionals should be using it. Your a professional!!! The CDJ's are "instruments" for djs. Thats the way you need to look at it. The better the instrument, they better you sound. If I play guitar and wanted to be a professional, I wouldn't show up to a gig with a toy guitar. I would invest in my craft and buy an expensive instrument that is going to make me look and sound the best I can. Ever hear the saying.... Put in your 10,000hrs and you are normally a pro. Well you have now taken the instruments you have been on for years, and have become an expert on after 10,000 hrs, for lessor quality to try to prove a point... For what? Who is this helping? Is this good for your fans that pay money to come see you play? NO! You have made yourself a wedding dj, instead of one of the best and creative djs in the world. I'm really perplex by this all to be honest. Ok I can understand moving to Denon which are great players, and you can pretty much do everything on them that you can do on CDJs.... But this is just silly IMO this toy controller. Carl Cox is a dj that like to stay up with technology and he dabbles with Traktor controllers along side his CDJ setup. But he is still rocking a RMX-1000 and CDJ's to do his craft. James Hype is killing it out there showing how the CDJs are truly an instrument. Go in your closet and pull out the CDJ's and stop this nonsense already. Be the professional you are, and play the instruments that make you the best DJ you can be. Don't be that artist that people go to see and they don't play there hit songs, or they want to do some kind of horrible interpretation of the song we love. Fans hate that! And while you are trying to see hot cues, and loops on your little phone, and trying to make sure you don't hit the wrong button, your head is down, not engaged with your crowd because your too busy staring at the program. That's my 2 cents. The only reason I wrote this is because Im a fan. Good luck! Hope you make the right choice and give Pioneer a call to get on the next promo video like in the past.
You're so damn right about everything you write. But Luke is now a brand ambassador. And these brands are not yet as advanced with their hardware as their software. He'll know why he's doing this. Either there is really hot stuff in the making for 2024. Or he'll get really good money for his pains.
Every single sentence you said is absolutely true. However I am a EDM producer not a real DJ artist. Having this setup is sufficient for me since I want always do something creative in the production side to ensure things sound new in my set. With that being said, I still would love to have dedicated controls for effects and stems, and tempo sliders as well. I mean cue points are fine to me but using the same nobs for both EQ and stem is so painful. You have to remember which one is turned down cause there’s no visual cues for that.
@@MarkPohlmannLuke has been using the Mixtour for about two years on and off? I am looking forward to reloop using his feedback to work on a 4 channel Mixtour with dedicated effects controls. The Traktor X1 has nice buttons and If Reloop can somehow fit narrower volume faders I am sure it will all make sense.
Thanks for this video. There is alot of information that I'll be able to talk about with my viewers on my channel. As soon as I put your name in the title and talk about djing on a phone my views jump like crazy. 😊
@@horacezhen Algoriddim supports almost every controller from Reloop - so it wouldn't have to work with this fuzzy thing, which was originally designed for DVS support and not for smartphones. Algoriddim's aim is to show bedroom DJs (like me) that they don't need pro equipment, what means: no Serato, no Pioneer. Having said this: DJ Pro is a really good software and it really deserves a controller that keeps up. The Reloop thing is far from that. Although, it's an art to achieve a reasonable result with limited resources. I really hope for Luke that he gets paid well for this.
Why not consider pre-recording your set at home and simply using a thumb drive to play it? It's incredibly compact and efficient. You won't have to worry about James Hype breaking the mixer, LOL
When a festival is negotiating with you about getting booked and they tell you that they demand that you must prerecord your entire set ahead of time and that must be played for your performance.... ya that's the universe telling you djing is not your strongest skill.
I would think doing this on an ipad sitting on an ipad stand would be so much better than on an iphone. you stil won't touch it too much, but when you need to, it won't be so delicate
Respect bro I only see this as a back up or a quick set up ceremony of sort but no disrespect still
Absolutely outdated yes, need to work on Mixtour MKII or something else to continue to push on portable DJing. I believe it will also reduce the price in some regions when the new gen arrives, For example in my country Mixtour costs 600 USD "Hey pioneer DDJ FLX4 only costs 300 USD and also works with DJay".
Looking forward to see if there's any successor of Mixtour
Also - people need to learn what MIDI is, and what a midi controller does. I don’t know how Algoridim’s midi mapping works, but I use Traktor and I’m ALL ABOUT custom mappings.
Ill stick to the older videos of you mixing a track, scratching the record, doing cuts and giving us djs something visual to attach ourselves to as fans.
For a professional touring DJ this setup just seems a little too amateur in the technical specifications. XLR output and a proper D plug power cable seems like it would be better for your level. Also thats one expensive phone holder LOL!
howd you get the different colors on the hot cue buttons?
One thing I thought of on the question of the power brick, Wouldn't you have to carry multiple types if you are playing in different countries on tour?
Travel plug adaptor
And with native instruments Kontrol F1 its not compatible.F1 has more pads (and also akai)
Personally I am going to get a Samsung S9 tablet and use the app on the Tablet.
My other system is Mixxx software and a Hercules controller
The AI is mind blowing on this app though and new hardware coming soon!
I missed those amazing sc6000 set ups .
One big issue with this setup, is that nobody is really teaching this style of dj setup. Aside from Luke. Its easy when everyone is teaching a pioneer setup. But its a bit tricky when only a few videos of this setup exist.
if your fingers have to constantly touch the Phone that means the controller is useless . I would love a small form factor controller but this lacks too much and there's no reason for it lacking so much . instead of turn tables there should be a knob instead of the turn tables at least to move around on track .
ojala actualicen y saquen una reloop tour 2
Can you still scratch on this Controller
there must be a better option for a professional DJ though, I certainly couldn't sacrifice the jogwheels
what about a native instruments z1 x1 f1 for djay ai
0:07 what is the intro tune?
Unconventional DJ setups are coming back which is cool too see.
Peoples problem isn’t that it’s from 2016 it’s the fact that it’s a product that is being sold for $300 that is essentially just a 2 channel DJ style player. The beginner pioneer gear has had 3 variants since its release (rb,400,flx4)
For that same price many people see controllers like the K2 a higher quality product that’s proven it’s durability and includes 24bit audio
And for a lower price you can get a Z1 which includes a full license to Traktor Pro 3 (which is $150!)*
I don’t think your setup is even bad but I don’t think many are ready to hear about solely DJing on iPhones.
Using even an iPad mini which fits in the same space with a mixtour would allow more visual clarity and stigma over iPhone
I think algoriddim DJ has one of the best ecosystems around considering that you could use a streaming service in conjunction and prep sets on the train to bus to then DJ through using that playlist on that device, any other DJay app, or even using the playlist inside of another program like Denon
Currently I use tidal (soon to be moving RIP stem support) to try out playlist on algoriddim DJ on my iPhone to then fully play it out on my Denon Prime gear
Also look into barrel to type C adapters for your mixtour plug, you could then use a 2 in 1 type C charger for both your phone and controller
The only positive I can see here is being responsible for your own equipment, and not having someone else trash it before you play. Everything else seems to be a negative.
So James Hype, a guy that beats the piss out of gear & wonders why faders are flying off is a perfect example of why folks should transition to an antiquated controller that does a so so job at controlling this futuristic app that only caters to those residing within the Apple Bubble... I'm not sure if you're advocating for Reloop & Algoriddim or giving folks reasons to run from it.
Reloop need to make a d2 like what traktor did how cool it would be just using them with stems and dvs it makes sense that reloop make something like that
I forgot to add if reloop make a similar d2 system it could work with serato and midi map to traktor you could put mini jogs on it if required sell each one for about 350 so a pair would cost 700 that’s the price of a mid range controller.
I love my boy but he ain’t selling me on it 🤣 ain’t no way you’re convincing me this is more practical then pulling up with a USB I rather prep stems and edits to use on 4 cdj’s , that’s really the only thing you’re missing out on with a flagship set up
more power to you! looking forward to seeing what next you and reloop/algoriddim develop together......
I'm so happy you see the bigger picture!
respect to James for the skill but no wonder DJ equipment ends up broken with guys like that using it, the flagships are built really well but slamming the volume faders and hammering the buttons the way he does is bound to break a few things. I've noticed at a lot of shows that the equipment is working fine for everyone else and then when it's James' set it's all of a sudden broken 10 minutes in.
use mixon 8 very very handy
I think maybe a setup like a reloop 4-deck controler with an iPhone/iPad will be way better than this😂
The future is clip based launching programs like Ableton or Bitwig performance mode. Problem is there is too much preparation in creating sets. If they made it easier to load, cue, and play stems and single tracks then 90% of us would never look at a dj controller again.
💯and I’ve tried a few ways to make this happen as an alternative to the “flagship”. When the crate management and plug/play deck style controller gets sorted for session view, it’s game over. Ableton is close and really has the look/feel figured out with PUSH. W/these M series processors and near fault free reliability next 5 years should be interesting.
I know allot of people are going to flat out hate this but what I’ve come to realise is you don’t play for other DJs.
You play for people who want to see you play. Allot of the older DJs I know who used slate laptops are all using controllers now 😂
What the people who hate on things don’t realise is that they are the biggest mascots for the very thing they hate. They pump the thing around the algorithm.
I honest don’t care what people use anymore we are all here to do the same thing which is being people together and dance.
People having equipment some doesn’t like is the first world of first world problems. You could be DJing of a toaster and at least your not hurting someone
way I has a question: does allen heath k2 still good?
❤ you bro but as an older DJ with poor eyesore this isn’t for me