While I'm convinced that this is just the word of "the higher ups", I hope the actual workers of the game don't think like that, but also see their great work
the hyperbole is a little old...he said that about pc and as someone lucky enough to have played pc and not had a tough time with bugs, there's a lot to be proud of there. this is not to say that other platforms didn't get totally screwed or that there aren't issues in every version, but man...if you could play it when it's running well, you'd know that the single biggest disappointment is that yeah, this was headed for top tier absolute legendary greatness if they hadn't pulled the trigger too early and screwed it all up
@@esqueejy I played on PC as well, granted, not many bugs. But Police are non existent, the story feels too quick, side missions are extremely bland especially compared to W3, a plethora of exploits, combat is janky. It's good for sure. I give it a 7/10. But I feel the devs are going to knock it out of the park in the next year or so.
@@JeffRennt By the end of the year, people are going t be raving about it in a whole new way...but there will still be a action hellbent on staying angry and ruining everyone's fun
"while not perfect, the PC version was a version of the game they were proud of", so are they contented about the entire game being that and just ignore the countless features they cut?? are they just gonna fix the bugs and thats it??
Welp... Here we are. PC still crashes like crazy some bugs are gone, games still bland, and people like cyberpunk because they want to see Rebecca's thighs.
"Apologized" by lying about their QA, deflecting blame, and "taking responsibility" by saying they're proud of the PC version and there's nothing wrong with the game except some bugs.
@@namelessyoutuber1902 It's pretty obvious how unfinished it is comparing just about anything to Witcher 3. Needed several more years of development but even then, not sure how much I trust CDPR to even be capable of it if they lost all the people who started on the project and made Witcher 3. They went through this before from Witcher 1 to Witcher 2 and losing half their staff from Witcher 2 to 3, but this time they ran out of luck I guess.
@Neo's danger Yeah, as a former QA engineer I find it super annoying when both companies and gamers put the blame on QA. From my experience, most bugs are easy to be found. A team of 5 QA engineers can find bugs faster than 50 developers can manage to fix them - my own experience (from both sides now). Unless a company QA is three people and a goat with a 20 years old laptop, the QA department tends to do their job just fine. Usually the QA is the department that does the job the best. It tends to be the management who ignores the issues, asigns the work items to wrong people or just move them to the post-release iteration. "We'll fix only priority 1 items and then release it" is a gut punch for the QA...
@@BoroMirraCz that's the thing, they seemed to ignore the QA reports. i would enjoy the repetitive process of being a QA but seriously, if it means becoming a scapegoat for a bunch of lazy directors and higher ups i'm comfortable being a front-end since that happens to me already.
Other than buggy AI and a real bounty system I fail to see the problems. Nothing fundamental really that I see. As an RPG, the story is most important and if you ask me the story and side content is very enjoyable.
@@cr3d294 the clothing/armor system should be improved a bunch, it sucks that in order to get good armor you have to look like a mismatched mess. That’s what mostly bothered me tbh
@@cr3d294 Agree the game was.ovwr welming for me at.foest but once you get deeper its a really game. Plus if you own on PC you can tweak and mod to make even better. But def not a perfect game but the core is still solid.
@@nenkosx That is correct, but i see a lot of people really taking Kratoses early game quotes to heart where he's basically raising Atreus to be a heartless spartan killing machine, which is why i point it out
@@filipmajewski8382 most people you see don't have kids. or don't really take it to heart, I'm 19 I do not have kids but I do know Kratos not even at the end was a good father, because he was not meant to be one after becoming the god of war, it is complex an people don't like to get complex in their mix
@@emanissbu6264 imagine correcting someone's UA-cam comment and not doing it properly... Did you not see the incorrect use of the word "then"? /clap clap
@Mitch K imagine being salty about a UA-cam comment that was just trying to help. You really didn’t need to say anything about it, and I guess that I didn’t even need to in the first place. At least I wasn’t rude about it though.
Well, you know what makes someone a criminal in 2077. Too bad it doesn't apply to 2020 and 2021 (i wish it did, my current government would be all in jail).
@@M3cronom Most big companies at least try to make their apology sound sincere. They don't put so many buts and excepts and other kind of excuses in it...
What disappoints me the most are those Ubisoft-like Sidemissions and the huge amount they are coming in. For example, the Cyberpsychos: I imagined something like the monsterhunting missions in the witcher 3, where we talk to people, investigate the scene, reveal a story that sometimes has a twist to it and than fight a more or less unique boss. What came out is: Go to Quest-Mark, receive call from regina, fight regular enemy with just more health, read shards, done. There is no Dialogue, no interactions, no descisions to make. Not even the deadly or not deadly descision matters, as it will be not-deadly even if you shoot the psycho with rockets.
It’s really depressing to hear that they were proud of the PC version. While it’s more stable than consoles, the core game is like 30% of what they promised, and of what the hype they fulled us with led us to believe the game would be like.
"It's a version of Cyberpunk we're very proud of." And that's the whole problem in a nutshell right there. They released a half-baked, horribly broken game and even in their "apology" still really aren't sorry and don't really see a problem.
they are delusional thinking that the only problems are crashes and bugs on console, i dont see a no man sky redemption, atleast they knowledge that the game was bad and they had to release because the studio had run out of money, here in cyberpunk they always taking pride of pc version , saying that he took 9 and 10 score. to be honest i think they will only patch until sony puts game back on store
They were so proud of the PC version that they didn't allow reviewers (the very same ones they're now praising) to use their own footage so they couldn't show just how buggy and broken the game was. I think the word "pride" must have a very different definition in Polish.
Had the same reaction too! Proud? Something's seriously wrong with that statement, ha! Request a refund and show them we'll not accept it in this state.
I've pre-ordered quite a few of the games I've played, and they've all been fine. It's mainly just a way to guarantee a copy for yourself, especially like a limited or collector's edition of said game. I personally don't think pre-ordering in itself is inherently bad, but not being mindful of the game or the company behind it is. If there was false advertising involved, misleading what the game would be (like in the case of this game), then that's on the company primarily. I was considering pre-ordering Cyberpunk, and I am so glad that I didn't. This game was... disappointing, to say the least, and the whole situation around it is awful.
They paid devs $700 A MONTH???? By the way even in my country where cost of living is low compared to the western world a dev with very little experience gets around $1 000 per month so this is pure exploitation. And if you add crunch to that it makes the salary even smaller. And lets not forget the fact that they got $480 million from pre-orders alone, meaning their profit margin was insane. Tell me again how $60 is too little for AAA title?
@@BillClinton228 i might be wrong, but 700$ (around 2500zł) is a minimal wage a person get every month for a full time job in Poland. Not sure but that might be the case.
@@David-cz9ej the fyre festival was supposed to be an amazing music festival. It wasn't lol. If you don't have Netflix, on UA-cam internet historian did a good funny video of it.
EXACTLY!! That would have been very stupid to do. Only if the game was delayed another year or two this argument would be valid. But for now, nobody will give next-gen consoles any priority due to supply issues.
@ragnnohab _ And those 10 people wouldn't be enough for the company to recoup the budget of the game. So a game if this budget will never be exclusive to consoles that are that new.
As an XSX owner I always find it weird that retailers have way more game copies than they could ever hope to sell for the number of the consoles, especially when digital copies are available..
Jesus christ you guys it's not that bad at all. Its already been patched and fixed. I do here sony ppl have more issues than pc and xbox. I play it on series x and xbox one x and it's amazing I havent had any NPC issues or any of those problems woods has.
@@indilune1 I have 157 hours into the game. I own ever console and a badass pc. If the game was truly that bad I'd be playing assassins creed valhalla, hades, immortal fenix rising, etc. I wouldnt be wasting my time with a broken fucked up game. I dont know anyone in real life that has had these issues. Again it must be a sony thing or base console issue.
I think this video was more about making a video "apology" instead of the content of the apology. So now they can say to anyone "Look, we apologised"... it also serves as ammo to the simps who keep defending the company. I've already seen too many times "Why are we still talking about this? They apologised. Let's move on and enjoy the game." When a thief steals from me I won't stop being angry just because they apologised.
I wish I would have watched your video before I bought the game. I new it had glitches i can deal with that because they can patch it later but the game is just not finished. Who knows if it ever will be. RIP Cyber Punk 2077.
We should all keep this in mind: CDPR is facing lawsuits now. So all of their apologies/PR will focus on things like overambitious and miscalculations. We must not be fooled by these. The problem, which should never be averted from, is their fraudulent conducts and violation of labour law.
I wish I could say that is CDPR only, but by now the whole Gaming Industry has been corrupted by greedy fucks. The times where small studios poured their hearts on the game for the community are long gone. Like, literally CDPR was our last "Good guy" in the industry.
The managment knew the game wasn't ready, they avoided showing footage of the game until after its release which suggests they were hiding how bad it played.
@@kubaprosek9989 they made TONS of profit, so literally management did not give a sh*t and just relied on their reputation with Witcher 3 and the hype to sell the game, which it did....
The fact that there are ppl who even bother defending this BS, is actually hilarious. I bet these same ppl welcome micro-transactions loot boxes in their $60 AAA gaming experience.
"It's a version of the game we're very proud of." This is wrong. If you're proud of something bad, you have no motivation to improve it. So, if what _that man_ said is true, they're not going to improve the PC version. Not too much at least. Hence, 2077 is stuck at being a mediocre game, shattering all past hype and expectations for good.
@@ItsSergeYall nope tried to get a refund on steam and apparently it's something really stupid like you can't have played more than 2 hours and have to initiate wanting a refund within 48 something crazy stupid like that for a waste of 60bones /truck tank of gas.... 0.0
“Don’t blame the devs it was management decisions. Also QA did not find any of these bugs. It was really them. I love to blame our lowest payed employees for decisions made by the millionaire owners of the company”
@@stacheoperator nah, it's the management fault for rushing the game, crunching employees and lying, don't just blame one coder without evidence like that
@@stacheoperator We found the one guy who thinks women only place is the bedroom guys! Met our quota for the comment section. Let's move on. On a real note I can't anyone serious when your profile looks like you're a middle aged balding dude holding a gun in flannel. Saying *It'S BeCauSe oF a WoMEn.* Makes you look stupid. Grow up.
"They lost sight" is the best way to describe this game. They clearly had a great idea at the beginning and had a game plan but as it moved along you can see it slowly fell apart to the point they had to scramble at the last minute just to get a semi playable version.
It is not completely true that there was no development before 2016. A small team of roughly 50-60 people started already working on Cyberpunk in 2012 and by 2016 they made the fundamentals - story, gameplay, third-person perspective, RPG genre, main features and direction. Then in late 2016, there was a change in the director of the studio Adam Badowski who clashed with the original team and their vision for the game. He demanded overhauls and rewrites to everything - story, gameplay, first-person, etc. A lot of departures ensued so the people who started with concepts and development of Cyberpunk between 2012 - 2016 mostly left the company because of differences with Badowski. However, major senior devs departures continued as of late 2018 when Kyle Rowley, associate design director and Sebastian Stepian, the creative director of Cyberpunk both resigned respectively. Bottom line is - the talent that brought The Witcher 3 might no longer be working for CDPR. Which is crazy from management and branding point of view.
@THAT GUY well at least that seems to be the case according to Schreiers reporting for Bloomberg and some other sources, the initial 30 minutes of People v. Cyberpunk 2077 youtube video covers it too in depth with appropriate sourcing.
It's ironic. For being as money-driven as they apparently were in getting this game out the door, in a matter of a few days they've done lasting damage to their reputation as a company and gamers' trust of it.
Their "apology" makes me even more sad watching the 2018 gameplay reveal. I was hopeful that one day we would have the game we saw back then, but now I'm thinking they only intend on fixing bugs and calling it a day. Such a shame that they're proud of the game I played on PC... :(
He says they're proud of the PC version? Even if there were virtually no bugs in it, of which there are many, the game is still a piece of garbage. It's an unpolished not well thought out visionless tech demo. Shell of a decent RPG.
Anybody that says the game is fine, look at the police system, cops spawning in walls, out of nowhere on top of buildings, the police system and the cities npcs are horrid.
Not true. Quick reminder the first patch is now due in a couple days, all the youtubers and twitter celebs who made bank on hating the game and it's fans are getting desperate, apart from the couple who are disgusting enough to try to shame CDPR for patching the game.
@@f.1791 theyre focusing on consoles and PC will at most see a couple bugfixes. I can live with some bugs, what i can't do is pretend half the systems aren't missing. AI is a joke, combat is basic and crazy easy just a few levels in, crafting is straight broken, pedestrians/cars constantly vanishing, the beaten to death police that devs say was slapped on last minute. Theres also hardly any RPG in the game which leaves zero replayability, too many issues to sit here fanboying like you're trying to do.
I'm surprised this video didn't address the fact that this "apology" video was only made to be used as falsified testimony for both in court for the lawsuits they are currently facing as well as for investors who are losing faith in the company, as are we all.
@@hansalanson3497 The Witcher's monolithic story is its main appeal. To me it just sounds like an excuse because they scrapped the real story for Wholesome Keanu Chungus 100.
"They are all incredibly talented and hard working" Also pays only $400-700/mth for testers and junior programmers. The management is next-gen corrupted.
@DFS57 Tbh, I dont think Cyberpunk was possible. The time limitation was simply too great. 2018-2020 to create a game of this magnitude? RG would fail doing that imo. You simply cant cheat time.
Let us not forget that in Poland this is not too bad even though still not good... an engineer also earns about 1000$ per month... but Poland is also a low-cost country...
Honestly this is so common, I’m a programmer, and I get paid less than the “business analyst” who literally talks to the customer and tells me what they want. I design and program the entire thing, but the BA earns several thousand more than me and takes credit for my work 😂
Blame management. They spent only 2-4 years on the game because of management. The teams were underpaid, understaffed but totally talented enough to do it given enough time. So yeah, don't blame the devs
@@davidnau2626 Jesus with that excuse... Nobody blamed a specific developer, like the game cars designer for example. And yeah CDPR developers are to blame also. Haven't seen such braindead AI since I don't know when. GTA 3 had much more sophisticated AI especially on the police lol. And I don't hear that distinction (managers-developers) being made when Bethesda or EA or any other company release a bad game.
They would have to build an entire AI system and therefore re-do all of the character behaviors and create new animations and interactions. Seems unlikely to happen at this point.
A complete failure??? Wtf game are you playing. Its badass one of the best games of 2020. I mean it has a few issues it isn't perfect but it's not that buggy and fucked up like you ppl are claiming I swear the bad videos are of day one. They released a patch on day 2 and fixed most of the problems. The bounty system and cops suck but that can be fixed with dlc and expansion packs
@@thedonzo after patch 1.1 on pc (10gb), i still have the same random bugs, cars exploding when npc get in, enemys stuck at the floor, softlocked when fuking regina calls me, V talking alone, sudden death for fall damage BUT now i get stuck when i loot fast at LCPD misions Yeah, its a badass game at making me reload the game, the best on it surpassing Skyrim with +200 mods
@@natevemuri9024 its actually insanely small for what it was meant to be (70 gigs) even gta 5 is bigger lol read somewhere too that with all the content before cuts was around 160 though
I felt the like the apology was a "let's throw QA under the bus", when like you said, it's just miss management...but when does a manager get sacked? Politics...such a shame :/
15:50 they had no choice. 1 because the game was announced before last gen even came out 2. If GTA5 could run on my old PS3 no problems then CDPR had no excuse.
Cyber punk is way more demanding then GTA5, n GTA was developed for Xbox 360 n ps3 bcos it was released in that time zone when the only consoles there were, was the 360 n one n ps3 n PS4 they would have no excuse to not release it for the consoles, plus that is. 2017 game n this is a 2020 game which should of been delayed for another year
@@b6.b1zz but this is where all the bodies are buried, the initial development between 2012 -2016 was led by a small team of 50 devs who however laid all the groundwork including - RPG with choice and consequence structure of narration and 3th person because they thought they were making the game in RED engine of Witcher 3, all that work was scrapped by CDPR management in 2016 because they wanted (apart from perspective and gameplay changes) also a new engine. I think Schreir says in the article that making Cyberpunk post 2016 from a clean slate was like "laying tracks in front of a speeding train", they were making the game while making the new engine. However, altough they made the decisions to completely redesign the game including making a completely next gen engine they did not back from their decision to release it for old gen consoles. And the reason is pretty clear - money. Instead, they were supposed to postpone the game, give devs at least one more year, by that time next gen consoles will be broadly available and release the game only on PC and next gen consoles. But the chase for the bigger buck was more important.
When I first head about this game, the customization of the characters is what piqued my interest in the game. Then when it was later revealed to be in 1st person a la Borderlands style, no thanks. Making customization and eye candy as a selling point for a first person camera view only really annoys me.
This game deserves third person! Others might deny but that's the truth. You can say that first person adds to the immersion and is more realistic, well tell me, do you see the world in 70fov like the game? Only top 1% of the pc players with ultra wide monitor can experience that first person immersion. Rest of us are stuck with view that feels like medieval horses who had their eyes covered from both sides.
All devs do this, pump money into advertising, make the budget back on pre orders. Pay off journalists or give them specific guidlines so they can’t review it low. Nintendo seems to be the exception since journalists have a weird bias against them. This is why games have such low completion rates, people realize they suck and drop them
@@000-z6r2u either I have it wrong or something but that’s not the devs job, the devs job is to work on the game, that’s management and the producers. I may be wrong.
@@JonPL considering most people who played this probably aren't little children, I'd say quite a lot. And besides, children and teens don't care about game bugs or balance. So in conclusion, more than you think probably do.
Id like to see a documentary on this train wreck. I loved the one on Atari, not the landfill, just the Game Stuff. I hope some devs come forward and tell their story. I'd honestly love to hear it.
Your vids on this whole subject are brilliant, some of the best coverage I’ve seen and actually discussing the issues that are important than just ranting.
@@spritsfal5088 NMS can fix their game by keep adding contents to enhance the players experience since they are an open world game Cyberpunk on the other hand is a story focused game, no amount of fixes would fix their mediocre story, even if you add back the cut content stuff it's probably not as great as it's intended at the first place. I place extremely little hope in CDPR to pull out any comeback in the near future
If you're asked "hey, you guys have said X lately, tell us more about that" you realize - you're already under the bus - so the best you can do is to try to avoid taking more damage...
If the Free DLCs are simple stuff like "New Car!", "New Quests!", "New Clothes!", they've failed. At this point Free DLC 1 should be "New NPC AI, Wanted System, New Vehicle traffic AI." I kinda agree that Police Appearing out of nowhere can be a good thing, for the drones and turrets. Doesn't help that one executive is making hollow apologies and one is defending bad practices
Free DLC only works off the back of (a) the product actually being good, and (b) pre-baked audience investment in the product. Witcher 3's "Free DLC" system was mostly relegated to unfinished/cut content that was polished up and put back in, minor bits of loot or customization, or (in the case of the final update), NG+, which actually wasn't all that balanced, but got thrown in anyway to sate fan demand. CP2077's problems go far beyond needing minor quests or additions to work. Entire subsystems have to be overhauled, and if Anthem couldn't do it (and pledged an overhaul that increasingly looks like it will never be released), I have no reason to think CDPR is capable of doing it, either. They've always had a reputation for putting out buggy, unfinished products, but Witcher 1/2 were far different animals than a big-budget sci-fi open world game that clearly looks like it was half-baked through production. They needed several more months (if not years) to make the game what they wanted to be.
Thank you for this, it's so clear this was a failure of management... "build skyrim and GTA with half the team, a fraction of the time, and not to mention a pittance for a salary", $400 a month? I mean I know it's a different country than the US, but that's insanely low for a software developer
At the end of the day, even if they were to fix every bug, the overall design of the game is severally flawed. It's not at all what we were told it was going to be and it's unlikely that they can change the design now. It's far too late for that.
Yup. They would probably have to add so much content that it would barely be the same game. An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure. And they need a million tons of cure.
Loved this video, loved the previous cyberpunk one especially the music video because it's my favourite song. Any news on my riding stables 2 review?? It will make my year
That’s the problem, these companies intentionally perform predatory business practice & think all they have to do is make a public apology to make it alright
They tried to remake GTA in half the time that Rockstar needs but with half the employees of Rockstar, while Rockstar also has experience with open worlds and also previous games to build up on. Their management must be delusional. Whoever was responsible there for crunch times should be fired immediately. Crunch time might appear like it accelerates things, but on the long term, it causes bugs, lack of inspiration, lack of coordination, and destroys developers. So they waste human lives for nothing. For making the game worse and ultimately needing more time for fixing all the bugs. As it appears, some flaws must have happened quite early in the development cycle, making them unfixable without rebooting the whole project.
@@matfax im confused about 1 thing and that's how alot of people say that rockstar have experience with open world games. Thats obviously true but the witcher 3 is an open world game meaning cd project do have experience with open world games don't they?
@@talorw8930 Except that most of the people working on Witcher 3 quit the company after finishing Blood and Wine. So not only they're trying to make GTA - Far Cry - Borderlands - Deus Ex hybrid in half the time and half the size of manpower compared to R* development cycle, said manpower also have barely half the experience.
@@talorw8930 It depends how you see it. W3 wasn't loading free and it was an RPG. But yes, they could reuse and optimize their engine. But Rockstar never had to switch their genre. It was a long series of GTA games to extend. Cyberpunk was not only supposed to be their first of its genre but also the first to be seen that mixes W3 with Borderlands and Watch Dogs, both of which their respective developing houses also had experience.
As a computer programmer, you should know better than anyone that this game had issues that the coders knew existed, just didn't care about. The coders are just as much of liars and sellouts as the higher ups.
Just wanted to say i finally got myself a switch because of you and your channel. Thanks for all the videos you make. They're really helpful as well as entertaining.
Technically the cars are flying...
But not in the way we thought they would
"It's not flying, it's falling with style"
-Toy story
@@MLWJ1993 "it's not flying,the road is just programmed in the sky"
-Cyberpunk devs
flying cars? you mean the things that randomly drops the driver out to where they fall to their death?
And exploding! Which in turn makes them fly also.
When he said "we are proud of the game we released" I lost all hope for CDPR.
While I'm convinced that this is just the word of "the higher ups", I hope the actual workers of the game don't think like that, but also see their great work
Respect*
the hyperbole is a little old...he said that about pc and as someone lucky enough to have played pc and not had a tough time with bugs, there's a lot to be proud of there. this is not to say that other platforms didn't get totally screwed or that there aren't issues in every version, but man...if you could play it when it's running well, you'd know that the single biggest disappointment is that yeah, this was headed for top tier absolute legendary greatness if they hadn't pulled the trigger too early and screwed it all up
@@esqueejy I played on PC as well, granted, not many bugs. But Police are non existent, the story feels too quick, side missions are extremely bland especially compared to W3, a plethora of exploits, combat is janky. It's good for sure. I give it a 7/10. But I feel the devs are going to knock it out of the park in the next year or so.
@@JeffRennt By the end of the year, people are going t be raving about it in a whole new way...but there will still be a action hellbent on staying angry and ruining everyone's fun
"while not perfect, the PC version was a version of the game they were proud of", so are they contented about the entire game being that and just ignore the countless features they cut?? are they just gonna fix the bugs and thats it??
Pretty much, as Wood said even with all the bug fixes this is what we get and this could have been so much better.
That’s also because the community made mods to fix all the crappy issues
Welp... Here we are. PC still crashes like crazy some bugs are gone, games still bland, and people like cyberpunk because they want to see Rebecca's thighs.
CD Projekt RED on loot boxes: “We’ll leave greed to others”
CD Projekt RED on launch day: “Because our way is deception”
Isn't it CD Project (G) R E (E) D
@@boredinczechia4382 CD Projekt GE?
@@joshuabalondo4454 more like CD projekt GREED, or EA projekt Bethesda
yeah and they went back and grabbed greed again lol
Well their deception was motivated by greed and they want to release a multiplayer standalone of cyberpunk to milk it like Rockstar did GTAonline.
I feel this wasn't even an Apology it was more of a " We got caught, we are sorry.. because we got caught"
"In 2077, what makes someone a criminal? Getting caught."
Sorry, not sorry type of apology, absolute cawksacker
"I'm sorry you don't like our game."
That's not an apology.
"It was the QA testers' fault!"
Also not an apology.
@@MunkyDrag0n "IDK. Reviews for pc were gud."
Is not an apology.
so what is it ?
@@Wahid_on_youtobe excuses
"We are proud of the final product"
also not an apology...
"Apologized" by lying about their QA, deflecting blame, and "taking responsibility" by saying they're proud of the PC version and there's nothing wrong with the game except some bugs.
Yes.
@@namelessyoutuber1902 It's pretty obvious how unfinished it is comparing just about anything to Witcher 3. Needed several more years of development but even then, not sure how much I trust CDPR to even be capable of it if they lost all the people who started on the project and made Witcher 3. They went through this before from Witcher 1 to Witcher 2 and losing half their staff from Witcher 2 to 3, but this time they ran out of luck I guess.
@Neo's danger Yeah, as a former QA engineer I find it super annoying when both companies and gamers put the blame on QA. From my experience, most bugs are easy to be found. A team of 5 QA engineers can find bugs faster than 50 developers can manage to fix them - my own experience (from both sides now). Unless a company QA is three people and a goat with a 20 years old laptop, the QA department tends to do their job just fine. Usually the QA is the department that does the job the best. It tends to be the management who ignores the issues, asigns the work items to wrong people or just move them to the post-release iteration. "We'll fix only priority 1 items and then release it" is a gut punch for the QA...
@@BoroMirraCz that's the thing, they seemed to ignore the QA reports. i would enjoy the repetitive process of being a QA but seriously, if it means becoming a scapegoat for a bunch of lazy directors and higher ups i'm comfortable being a front-end since that happens to me already.
give them a few more years it'll be somewhat decent enough to match up to desu ex mankind divided eventually XD
CDPR is lucky that the game has so many bugs because they hide THE REAL PROBLEMS of the game.
Thats what I said on the last video THANK YOU for being on the same boat
Other than buggy AI and a real bounty system I fail to see the problems. Nothing fundamental really that I see. As an RPG, the story is most important and if you ask me the story and side content is very enjoyable.
@@cr3d294 the clothing/armor system should be improved a bunch, it sucks that in order to get good armor you have to look like a mismatched mess. That’s what mostly bothered me tbh
@@alyssa.1691 kinda sucks looking THAT bad, true :(
@@cr3d294 Agree the game was.ovwr welming for me at.foest but once you get deeper its a really game. Plus if you own on PC you can tweak and mod to make even better. But def not a perfect game but the core is still solid.
"they are all talented and hard working.......and vastly under paid"
I guess so
I would like but it's at 69 soooo
And overworked
@@jcwljs1246 huh
Sounds like normal Americans
"Don't be sorry, be better".
- Kratos
Well to be fair it was an example of shir parenting by Kratos
@@filipmajewski8382 in this case its a perfect example of what should be done
@@nenkosx That is correct, but i see a lot of people really taking Kratoses early game quotes to heart where he's basically raising Atreus to be a heartless spartan killing machine, which is why i point it out
@@filipmajewski8382 most people you see don't have kids. or don't really take it to heart, I'm 19 I do not have kids but I do know Kratos not even at the end was a good father, because he was not meant to be one after becoming the god of war, it is complex an people don't like to get complex in their mix
@Filip Mejewski not hating on kratos
I don't think you could possibly say anything bad about your cyberpunk video tbh. Preformed better then the game itself!
Not sure if taking the piss out of Wood or not
Yeah the best cyberpunk review that addressing each of the problem, each of what didnt make into the final product, with clear and concise script
@@emanissbu6264 imagine correcting someone's UA-cam comment and not doing it properly... Did you not see the incorrect use of the word "then"? /clap clap
@Mitch K imagine being salty about a UA-cam comment that was just trying to help. You really didn’t need to say anything about it, and I guess that I didn’t even need to in the first place. At least I wasn’t rude about it though.
@@emanissbu6264 quit arguing folks
"We're sorry we got caught."
-CDPR's "apology" in a nutshell
Well, you know what makes someone a criminal in 2077. Too bad it doesn't apply to 2020 and 2021 (i wish it did, my current government would be all in jail).
- every big companys apology ever.
"And while we say sorry we will throw our QA staff under the bus. No one likes them anyway."
This. 100%
@@M3cronom Most big companies at least try to make their apology sound sincere. They don't put so many buts and excepts and other kind of excuses in it...
Forget the bugs. The game is nothing like they promised.
Exactly what I've been saying, the game itself is lackluster.
Missing features alone should be enough to sue CDPR for fraud.
Game went from "RPG" to "Action Adventure" real quick 😂
What disappoints me the most are those Ubisoft-like Sidemissions and the huge amount they are coming in. For example, the Cyberpsychos: I imagined something like the monsterhunting missions in the witcher 3, where we talk to people, investigate the scene, reveal a story that sometimes has a twist to it and than fight a more or less unique boss. What came out is: Go to Quest-Mark, receive call from regina, fight regular enemy with just more health, read shards, done. There is no Dialogue, no interactions, no descisions to make. Not even the deadly or not deadly descision matters, as it will be not-deadly even if you shoot the psycho with rockets.
@@M3cronom yeah lmao you one shot every cyberpsycho with an arm cannon paralyzing round they are a joke
It’s really depressing to hear that they were proud of the PC version. While it’s more stable than consoles, the core game is like 30% of what they promised, and of what the hype they fulled us with led us to believe the game would be like.
Exactly I play on pc and I encountered little to no bugs still the actual game is boring and mid
@Gice Rum they just forgot to say it would be 90% different from what was shown - and promoted in the marketing materials.
@Gice Rum i mean, for example, rdr2 by rockstar definitely overcame our expectations.
Rdr2 is the Best game in history (in my opinion)
nah id say its like a 13% of what they promised
k so i learned about cyber punk mere months before release, but i feel like they deliverd like 20 percent at best for what they promised
"It's a version of Cyberpunk we're very proud of." And that's the whole problem in a nutshell right there. They released a half-baked, horribly broken game and even in their "apology" still really aren't sorry and don't really see a problem.
they are delusional thinking that the only problems are crashes and bugs on console, i dont see a no man sky redemption, atleast they knowledge that the game was bad and they had to release because the studio had run out of money, here in cyberpunk they always taking pride of pc version , saying that he took 9 and 10 score. to be honest i think they will only patch until sony puts game back on store
They were so proud of the PC version that they didn't allow reviewers (the very same ones they're now praising) to use their own footage so they couldn't show just how buggy and broken the game was. I think the word "pride" must have a very different definition in Polish.
This dude is born to lie.
Had the same reaction too! Proud? Something's seriously wrong with that statement, ha! Request a refund and show them we'll not accept it in this state.
What is broken PC? You sitting a hate wagon? Yeah ebody except more, but this is good main story, and funny shooter. Wich game is better in 2020??
The guy in the apology video looked more lifeless than the npcs in the game.
haha no denying that
True that😂
Even the fan behind him didn't work
Moral of the story: Don´t preorder, from anyone, ever.
I've pre-ordered quite a few of the games I've played, and they've all been fine. It's mainly just a way to guarantee a copy for yourself, especially like a limited or collector's edition of said game. I personally don't think pre-ordering in itself is inherently bad, but not being mindful of the game or the company behind it is. If there was false advertising involved, misleading what the game would be (like in the case of this game), then that's on the company primarily. I was considering pre-ordering Cyberpunk, and I am so glad that I didn't. This game was... disappointing, to say the least, and the whole situation around it is awful.
They paid devs $700 A MONTH???? By the way even in my country where cost of living is low compared to the western world a dev with very little experience gets around $1 000 per month so this is pure exploitation. And if you add crunch to that it makes the salary even smaller.
And lets not forget the fact that they got $480 million from pre-orders alone, meaning their profit margin was insane. Tell me again how $60 is too little for AAA title?
@@-Panna- I understand, but as someone with rapid internet that only buys games digitally, this won't concern me and many others.
@@BillClinton228 i might be wrong, but 700$ (around 2500zł) is a minimal wage a person get every month for a full time job in Poland. Not sure but that might be the case.
Except Fromsoft and Obsidian ;)
The development of the game reminded me of the Fyre Festival documentary on Netflix
Lol
That whole thing was fucked up
What was it about? First time hearing about it.
@@David-cz9ej fyre festival, the festival that promised everything but gave them nothing and even worse.
@@David-cz9ej the fyre festival was supposed to be an amazing music festival. It wasn't lol. If you don't have Netflix, on UA-cam internet historian did a good funny video of it.
"why focus on current Gen?"
Because like 10 people have a next Gen console. The rest are bought by scalpers
EXACTLY!! That would have been very stupid to do. Only if the game was delayed another year or two this argument would be valid. But for now, nobody will give next-gen consoles any priority due to supply issues.
Laughs in Black Ops 3 for ps3 and xbox 360
@@Kylehappy305 Laughs at COD players
@ragnnohab _ And those 10 people wouldn't be enough for the company to recoup the budget of the game. So a game if this budget will never be exclusive to consoles that are that new.
As an XSX owner I always find it weird that retailers have way more game copies than they could ever hope to sell for the number of the consoles, especially when digital copies are available..
We'll be waiting until 2077 until this game is any good
Jesus christ you guys it's not that bad at all. Its already been patched and fixed. I do here sony ppl have more issues than pc and xbox. I play it on series x and xbox one x and it's amazing I havent had any NPC issues or any of those problems woods has.
@@thedonzo bullllllllllllllllllllshit
@@indilune1 I have 157 hours into the game. I own ever console and a badass pc. If the game was truly that bad I'd be playing assassins creed valhalla, hades, immortal fenix rising, etc. I wouldnt be wasting my time with a broken fucked up game. I dont know anyone in real life that has had these issues. Again it must be a sony thing or base console issue.
PLEASE NEXT ELDER SCROLLS DONT DO THIS
@Mr D it would be more like ps40 since they dont release a next gen system every year
Except they also lied in the apology.
So they didn't apologize.
yep, this is more like "Jesus our shares are falling, we need to say something". Pure damage control, not a honest apology.
I think this video was more about making a video "apology" instead of the content of the apology. So now they can say to anyone "Look, we apologised"... it also serves as ammo to the simps who keep defending the company. I've already seen too many times "Why are we still talking about this? They apologised. Let's move on and enjoy the game." When a thief steals from me I won't stop being angry just because they apologised.
"Coming when its ready". More like coming when we want a fat bonus.
I'll probably give the game a try in a few years when they come out with Cyberpunk 2077: Remastered.
*Cyberpunk 2077: fixed.
Lol
I wish I would have watched your video before I bought the game. I new it had glitches i can deal with that because they can patch it later but the game is just not finished. Who knows if it ever will be. RIP Cyber Punk 2077.
And it'd still be a pretty looking Far Cry like game at best
I'ma wait till cyberpunk 2078
Lots of corruption in night city. One company “won” the bid to make ALL the elevator buttons in the whole city.
Honestly this feels like a school project that you have like 3 weeks to finish and you start working on it the last 2 days.
Thats me every assignment
Start working on it 15min before the class starts in the bathroom panicking
We should all keep this in mind: CDPR is facing lawsuits now. So all of their apologies/PR will focus on things like overambitious and miscalculations. We must not be fooled by these. The problem, which should never be averted from, is their fraudulent conducts and violation of labour law.
Plus straight up false advertising. Huge chunks of the game's "features" are missing.
Yes it's all PR, nothing real. Then again it has been that for 8 years.
Never trust corporate ever
I wish I could say that is CDPR only, but by now the whole Gaming Industry has been corrupted by greedy fucks. The times where small studios poured their hearts on the game for the community are long gone.
Like, literally CDPR was our last "Good guy" in the industry.
@@189Blake wth are you talking about? There are tons of hard working, honest, great studios small and large. Let's not get over cynical.
The managment knew the game wasn't ready, they avoided showing footage of the game until after its release which suggests they were hiding how bad it played.
But fanboys will still find an excuse
And it’s not like they didn’t actually make a profit, so they probably don’t rly care
@@kubaprosek9989 they made TONS of profit, so literally management did not give a sh*t and just relied on their reputation with Witcher 3 and the hype to sell the game, which it did....
I don’t think they knew they just trusted there team and need it out
@@louisvuitton56 doubt it. They all knew
Hope Hwangbo is still doing okay amongst all the chaos
drop a likefor Hwangbro on his main video.
The fact that there are ppl who even bother defending this BS, is actually hilarious. I bet these same ppl welcome micro-transactions loot boxes in their $60 AAA gaming experience.
"It's a version of the game we're very proud of."
This is wrong. If you're proud of something bad, you have no motivation to improve it. So, if what _that man_ said is true, they're not going to improve the PC version. Not too much at least. Hence, 2077 is stuck at being a mediocre game, shattering all past hype and expectations for good.
Everything that went wrong with cyberpunk: cyberpunk
*2077
There is far more to the Cyberpunk lore than this, frankly amazing, game.
yup, along with that giant war & peace sized design document that broke the desk they dropped it on...
@@letsBrn didn’t they have to refund most of it?
@@ItsSergeYall nope tried to get a refund on steam and apparently it's something really stupid like you can't have played more than 2 hours and have to initiate wanting a refund within 48 something crazy stupid like that for a waste of 60bones /truck tank of gas.... 0.0
@@MikeGSJR so basically they have stolen millions from people
“Don’t blame the devs it was management decisions. Also QA did not find any of these bugs. It was really them. I love to blame our lowest payed employees for decisions made by the millionaire owners of the company”
@@stacheoperator nah, it's the management fault for rushing the game, crunching employees and lying, don't just blame one coder without evidence like that
@@stacheoperator We found the one guy who thinks women only place is the bedroom guys! Met our quota for the comment section. Let's move on. On a real note I can't anyone serious when your profile looks like you're a middle aged balding dude holding a gun in flannel.
Saying *It'S BeCauSe oF a WoMEn.* Makes you look stupid. Grow up.
@@kingcaesar3693 i couldn't agree more with you, i really hate those type of people, people like "thequartering" and "geeks and gamers" are awful
@@stacheoperator trump lost lol
@Fantastic Jelly a person’s gender literally made zero difference on how this game released. Don’t listen to that ignorant bigot
"They lost sight" is the best way to describe this game.
They clearly had a great idea at the beginning and had a game plan but as it moved along you can see it slowly fell apart to the point they had to scramble at the last minute just to get a semi playable version.
I guess that's when they decided to put Keanu / Johnny Silverhand on the center stage
It is not completely true that there was no development before 2016. A small team of roughly 50-60 people started already working on Cyberpunk in 2012 and by 2016 they made the fundamentals - story, gameplay, third-person perspective, RPG genre, main features and direction. Then in late 2016, there was a change in the director of the studio Adam Badowski who clashed with the original team and their vision for the game. He demanded overhauls and rewrites to everything - story, gameplay, first-person, etc. A lot of departures ensued so the people who started with concepts and development of Cyberpunk between 2012 - 2016 mostly left the company because of differences with Badowski. However, major senior devs departures continued as of late 2018 when Kyle Rowley, associate design director and Sebastian Stepian, the creative director of Cyberpunk both resigned respectively. Bottom line is - the talent that brought The Witcher 3 might no longer be working for CDPR. Which is crazy from management and branding point of view.
The addition of Celebrities and influencer cameos really crippled it.
@THAT GUY well at least that seems to be the case according to Schreiers reporting for Bloomberg and some other sources, the initial 30 minutes of People v. Cyberpunk 2077 youtube video covers it too in depth with appropriate sourcing.
@@jn4003 small teams make better games than massive teams. Look at old bungie, just a few guys making their halo games in their bedroom
Remember when gamers thought CDPR was a "different" company? What a joke.
CDP red is dead, long live LARIAN!
It's ironic. For being as money-driven as they apparently were in getting this game out the door, in a matter of a few days they've done lasting damage to their reputation as a company and gamers' trust of it.
I guess they figured they'd make enough to retire off of from the pre-orders alone.
Even after their lawsuits,
Their "apology" makes me even more sad watching the 2018 gameplay reveal. I was hopeful that one day we would have the game we saw back then, but now I'm thinking they only intend on fixing bugs and calling it a day. Such a shame that they're proud of the game I played on PC... :(
"this video is sponsored by the way"
*Never mentions a sponsor*
Subverted expectations
Bruh it's sponsored by gfuel
He has a gfuel link in the description
@@FraserSouris yes but *he never mentions it that's what I said*
@@peachedpocky maybe that was the plan? like a silly twist relevant to CDP not really apologising
He says they're proud of the PC version? Even if there were virtually no bugs in it, of which there are many, the game is still a piece of garbage. It's an unpolished not well thought out visionless tech demo. Shell of a decent RPG.
Just wanna leave this useless comment to agree with you
Anybody that says the game is fine, look at the police system, cops spawning in walls, out of nowhere on top of buildings, the police system and the cities npcs are horrid.
Not true.
Quick reminder the first patch is now due in a couple days,
all the youtubers and twitter celebs who made bank on hating the game and it's fans are getting desperate, apart from the couple who are disgusting enough to try to shame CDPR for patching the game.
@@f.1791 first patch? I thought we already have like 3 or 4 now?
@@f.1791 theyre focusing on consoles and PC will at most see a couple bugfixes. I can live with some bugs, what i can't do is pretend half the systems aren't missing. AI is a joke, combat is basic and crazy easy just a few levels in, crafting is straight broken, pedestrians/cars constantly vanishing, the beaten to death police that devs say was slapped on last minute. Theres also hardly any RPG in the game which leaves zero replayability, too many issues to sit here fanboying like you're trying to do.
12:49 That "apology" really just threw the entire QA team under the bus there.
I'm surprised this video didn't address the fact that this "apology" video was only made to be used as falsified testimony for both in court for the lawsuits they are currently facing as well as for investors who are losing faith in the company, as are we all.
That apology shoveled so much sh@t , they had to install a air circulation fan right behind him.
Lol
Where the shoveled $#!+ would likely hit the air circulation fan for ultimate irony.
If they're so proud of the PC version then why is it missing so many features and mechanics
And why is it on the low 7s on user scores, both on Metacritic and Steam....
@Neo's danger according to them, because the Witcher 3 story was too long for most players to finish. Don't know where that one came from.
@Neo's danger 5 hours is like all the time I took on my first time clearing White Orchard and getting the Viper swords, damn...
@Neo's danger Prologue is not the entire game
@@hansalanson3497 The Witcher's monolithic story is its main appeal. To me it just sounds like an excuse because they scrapped the real story for Wholesome Keanu Chungus 100.
They responded because of your beautiful Diss track.
Lol I’m sure it helped!
Yeah most probably
"They are all incredibly talented and hard working"
Also pays only $400-700/mth for testers and junior programmers. The management is next-gen corrupted.
@DFS57 Tbh, I dont think Cyberpunk was possible. The time limitation was simply too great. 2018-2020 to create a game of this magnitude? RG would fail doing that imo. You simply cant cheat time.
Let us not forget that in Poland this is not too bad even though still not good... an engineer also earns about 1000$ per month... but Poland is also a low-cost country...
Honestly this is so common, I’m a programmer, and I get paid less than the “business analyst” who literally talks to the customer and tells me what they want.
I design and program the entire thing, but the BA earns several thousand more than me and takes credit for my work 😂
tfw i washed dishes someplace and made $900 in two weeks
"Do not blame the teams"
"By the way all those bugs? totally the QA team's fault"
Blame management. They spent only 2-4 years on the game because of management. The teams were underpaid, understaffed but totally talented enough to do it given enough time. So yeah, don't blame the devs
So.who deserve to get blamed?
@@dikaraihanbatara managment... point... bosses who do not know how to create a game but tell others how they should do it
@@davidnau2626 Jesus with that excuse... Nobody blamed a specific developer, like the game cars designer for example. And yeah CDPR developers are to blame also. Haven't seen such braindead AI since I don't know when. GTA 3 had much more sophisticated AI especially on the police lol. And I don't hear that distinction (managers-developers) being made when Bethesda or EA or any other company release a bad game.
Sadly, I don't think a couple patches will fix everything. they might need a complete overhaul
There's no complete overhaul coming, the game is dead in the water.
Fix AI, add some stuff to do, some things to buy, add character backstories and pretty much it for me. We get a decent game.
They would have to build an entire AI system and therefore re-do all of the character behaviors and create new animations and interactions. Seems unlikely to happen at this point.
@@TautBrigas that still sounds like a trash game lol
@@markiv2942 it's so sad
I'm with Woods. CD got greedy and cocky. This game is a complete failure. I was never fully hyped for the game but I hate what they did to gamers.
A complete failure??? Wtf game are you playing. Its badass one of the best games of 2020. I mean it has a few issues it isn't perfect but it's not that buggy and fucked up like you ppl are claiming I swear the bad videos are of day one. They released a patch on day 2 and fixed most of the problems. The bounty system and cops suck but that can be fixed with dlc and expansion packs
@@thedonzo the whole ai thing is not something to be fixed in patches
@@thedonzo after patch 1.1 on pc (10gb), i still have the same random bugs, cars exploding when npc get in, enemys stuck at the floor, softlocked when fuking regina calls me, V talking alone, sudden death for fall damage BUT now i get stuck when i loot fast at LCPD misions
Yeah, its a badass game at making me reload the game, the best on it surpassing Skyrim with +200 mods
@@darkknessPS3 wow my brother is playing patch 1.03 and hasn't had any bugs at all. Guess it depends on your pc.
I am quite convinced that they saw your video and you were almost singlehandedly responsible for their apology 😂
Can you imagine being the co-founder of a company and watching all these type of video about your product lol.
No, it was most likely so the Polish gov won't rip them apart for not delivering on the deal.
That song is a bop though
@@JonPL Yeah, they are trying to avoid legal consequences.
Nah that was probably AJS
The amount of time he mentioned the "PC version" leads me to believe they really didn't care about misleading consumers about the last gen port
That awesome Cyberpunk video is how I discovered your channel and I'm here to stay! :)
After back to back incredible, highly edited videos from wood, I’m happy with this more laid back just kinda chatting video.
You definitely deserve all the love for your OG Cyberpunk video!! Keep up the good work Wood. ☺️☺️
The shader thing is why the game is SO huge. So many assets unused probably too that you install regardless.
Yeah good point!
How large is it? Bc Im pretty sure warzone is like 200 gb lmao
@@natevemuri9024 its actually insanely small for what it was meant to be (70 gigs) even gta 5 is bigger lol
read somewhere too that with all the content before cuts was around 160 though
@@lolickypeepee23xdd6 The 160Gb content cut is a fake news but who know?
Cyberpunk is "just" 70 GB. RDR 2 is twice bigger. I was actually expecting the game to be like 200 GB, considering how much they promised.
“Thank you, i worked so hard on that video”
It shows, it really shows and i enjoyed it a lot 😌
I felt the like the apology was a "let's throw QA under the bus", when like you said, it's just miss management...but when does a manager get sacked? Politics...such a shame :/
So, who were the "playtesters" that played Cyberpunk pS4 at 24 fps and thought, looks like its good to go!
must of been those playstation fanboy youtubers that say they prefer games at 30fps.
I don't think the framerate is even the most pressing issue in those copies 🤔
@@MLWJ1993 I guess your right, maybe the playtesters weren't even able to test the game at all with all of its crashes lmao
@@shazmodeus2795 surely nobody actually said that...
Right?
@@natevemuri9024 I wish I could tell you that I was joking.
huh, "I'm sorry you where offended by management's decision."
“Were”
They should have interviewed the game NPCs.
Why they would have just said, "It could have been worse."
But if you look the other way during the interview and look back they will disappear.
@@jasonhenson7946 or turn into a different NPC 💀
lol
lmfao and then the npc starts t posing
As a Polish and devoted CDPR fan, I can honestly say that your content is objective and honest. You are right!
This is almost the new norm. "We're sarry"
15:50 they had no choice. 1 because the game was announced before last gen even came out 2. If GTA5 could run on my old PS3 no problems then CDPR had no excuse.
Cyber punk is way more demanding then GTA5, n GTA was developed for Xbox 360 n ps3 bcos it was released in that time zone when the only consoles there were, was the 360 n one n ps3 n PS4 they would have no excuse to not release it for the consoles, plus that is. 2017 game n this is a 2020 game which should of been delayed for another year
@@b6.b1zz but this is where all the bodies are buried, the initial development between 2012 -2016 was led by a small team of 50 devs who however laid all the groundwork including - RPG with choice and consequence structure of narration and 3th person because they thought they were making the game in RED engine of Witcher 3, all that work was scrapped by CDPR management in 2016 because they wanted (apart from perspective and gameplay changes) also a new engine. I think Schreir says in the article that making Cyberpunk post 2016 from a clean slate was like "laying tracks in front of a speeding train", they were making the game while making the new engine. However, altough they made the decisions to completely redesign the game including making a completely next gen engine they did not back from their decision to release it for old gen consoles. And the reason is pretty clear - money. Instead, they were supposed to postpone the game, give devs at least one more year, by that time next gen consoles will be broadly available and release the game only on PC and next gen consoles. But the chase for the bigger buck was more important.
@@jn4003 very well said ☝️
@@jn4003 I agree with u completely
It was in third person. THIS make's me raging the most!!!!
When I first head about this game, the customization of the characters is what piqued my interest in the game. Then when it was later revealed to be in 1st person a la Borderlands style, no thanks. Making customization and eye candy as a selling point for a first person camera view only really annoys me.
Motion sick person here feels this!
This game deserves third person! Others might deny but that's the truth. You can say that first person adds to the immersion and is more realistic, well tell me, do you see the world in 70fov like the game? Only top 1% of the pc players with ultra wide monitor can experience that first person immersion. Rest of us are stuck with view that feels like medieval horses who had their eyes covered from both sides.
@@splashydiamond
That's why FOV sliders are a thing..
That being said, yeah, the first person customization thing doesn't make any freakin' sense.
Ikr, wtf is the point of character customization when the game is in first person?!
what the funk is wrong with these “CD PROJEKT RED” guys?
they didnt have funky mode turned on
the management team and cdpr higher ups we're not very funky
All devs do this, pump money into advertising, make the budget back on pre orders. Pay off journalists or give them specific guidlines so they can’t review it low. Nintendo seems to be the exception since journalists have a weird bias against them. This is why games have such low completion rates, people realize they suck and drop them
@@000-z6r2u y’all seriously respondin to a gimic account
@@000-z6r2u either I have it wrong or something but that’s not the devs job, the devs job is to work on the game, that’s management and the producers. I may be wrong.
This is honestly heartbreaking
Your breakdown & takedown of Cyberpunk has been great! I'm subbing.
CEO be like lets Apologize with lying even more again
I wonder how many people were confused why David Guetta is talking about Cyberpunk 2077
you are so original and funny. (you aren't.)
By now most people here probably don't know \ remember who was David Guetta.
@@JonPL considering most people who played this probably aren't little children, I'd say quite a lot. And besides, children and teens don't care about game bugs or balance. So in conclusion, more than you think probably do.
Id like to see a documentary on this train wreck. I loved the one on Atari, not the landfill, just the Game Stuff. I hope some devs come forward and tell their story. I'd honestly love to hear it.
Closest thing to a documentary rn is crowbcats video,41 minutes of our roasting genius.
Im just now realizing I’ve been watching your videos since your were at around 20/30k subscribers. So glad to see your growth man
Absolutely right about your last CyberPunk video, I thought that it was amazing and subscribed immediately after watching it. Nice job dude!!!!
The fact that CD's apology video was released only few days before Schreier's article is no coincidence. Just sayin'.
The man in the video wasn’t blinking...
Don’t worry he’s just one of the npcs
3:20
So glad I discovered your channel
Your vids on this whole subject are brilliant, some of the best coverage I’ve seen and actually discussing the issues that are important than just ranting.
If the game was bug free it would still be painfully average
The real reason CDPR sent out that “apology video” and presented a “roadmap” is to ENSURE that you never return the game... Sneaky... 🤔
Yup. It's them begging to keep your money. A roadmap doesn't mean squat. Anthem had a roadmap...
@@spritsfal5088 NMS can fix their game by keep adding contents to enhance the players experience since they are an open world game
Cyberpunk on the other hand is a story focused game, no amount of fixes would fix their mediocre story, even if you add back the cut content stuff it's probably not as great as it's intended at the first place. I place extremely little hope in CDPR to pull out any comeback in the near future
How you doin wood?
Sending lots of love and support.
Tell you what that apology was more hollow than night city when you weren't doing missions.
Ciri wasn't lying when she said people were in ship's flying off the ground
Top quality content brother. This is why I listen to people like yourself and never to the "professional" reviewers, who are basically FAKE NEWS
I'm all for holding management responsible but weren't there members of the dev team being interviewed and actively telling lies to the community?
Like in nightcity wire? I somewhere heard that CEO is also Project lead or some kind of developer, they are all liars!
Probably get given scripts, and have to stick with it or get some kind of penalty
If you're asked "hey, you guys have said X lately, tell us more about that" you realize - you're already under the bus - so the best you can do is to try to avoid taking more damage...
@@silvertayuun if that's so I don't have any sympathy for those complicit in lying to their community
When I saw the thumbnail I thought you were apologizing and got really scared for a seccond
If the Free DLCs are simple stuff like "New Car!", "New Quests!", "New Clothes!", they've failed. At this point Free DLC 1 should be "New NPC AI, Wanted System, New Vehicle traffic AI." I kinda agree that Police Appearing out of nowhere can be a good thing, for the drones and turrets.
Doesn't help that one executive is making hollow apologies and one is defending bad practices
Free DLC only works off the back of (a) the product actually being good, and (b) pre-baked audience investment in the product. Witcher 3's "Free DLC" system was mostly relegated to unfinished/cut content that was polished up and put back in, minor bits of loot or customization, or (in the case of the final update), NG+, which actually wasn't all that balanced, but got thrown in anyway to sate fan demand.
CP2077's problems go far beyond needing minor quests or additions to work. Entire subsystems have to be overhauled, and if Anthem couldn't do it (and pledged an overhaul that increasingly looks like it will never be released), I have no reason to think CDPR is capable of doing it, either. They've always had a reputation for putting out buggy, unfinished products, but Witcher 1/2 were far different animals than a big-budget sci-fi open world game that clearly looks like it was half-baked through production. They needed several more months (if not years) to make the game what they wanted to be.
"we're proud of the game we released"
When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.
Thank you for this, it's so clear this was a failure of management... "build skyrim and GTA with half the team, a fraction of the time, and not to mention a pittance for a salary", $400 a month? I mean I know it's a different country than the US, but that's insanely low for a software developer
400 is less than unemployed people get from the state in Germany
Apology video, while they was very well aware that old gen console users going to be screwed...
I was just watching the song just now, wow
I was watching and singing that song
At the end of the day, even if they were to fix every bug, the overall design of the game is severally flawed. It's not at all what we were told it was going to be and it's unlikely that they can change the design now. It's far too late for that.
Yup. They would probably have to add so much content that it would barely be the same game. An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure.
And they need a million tons of cure.
Yeah your cyberpunk vid is next level good in the way you break it all down for us man. Glad it performed well.
This trend with Game Developers really needs to end.
Loved this video, loved the previous cyberpunk one especially the music video because it's my favourite song. Any news on my riding stables 2 review?? It will make my year
Look at CDPR CEO's response to Bloomberg's article on Twitter. It gets worse 😂
for the longest time I thought they'd kinda just do the bethesda thing where it can switch between first and third person
That’s the problem, these companies intentionally perform predatory business practice & think all they have to do is make a public apology to make it alright
i feel so so bad for all those devs. they were neglected so much.
Honestly that cyberpunk review was one of the best reviews I have ever watched!
You know, in computer programming we have a saying "however long you think a project will take to make, double it" they may have missed that.
They tried to remake GTA in half the time that Rockstar needs but with half the employees of Rockstar, while Rockstar also has experience with open worlds and also previous games to build up on. Their management must be delusional. Whoever was responsible there for crunch times should be fired immediately. Crunch time might appear like it accelerates things, but on the long term, it causes bugs, lack of inspiration, lack of coordination, and destroys developers. So they waste human lives for nothing. For making the game worse and ultimately needing more time for fixing all the bugs. As it appears, some flaws must have happened quite early in the development cycle, making them unfixable without rebooting the whole project.
@@matfax im confused about 1 thing and that's how alot of people say that rockstar have experience with open world games. Thats obviously true but the witcher 3 is an open world game meaning cd project do have experience with open world games don't they?
@@talorw8930 Except that most of the people working on Witcher 3 quit the company after finishing Blood and Wine. So not only they're trying to make GTA - Far Cry - Borderlands - Deus Ex hybrid in half the time and half the size of manpower compared to R* development cycle, said manpower also have barely half the experience.
@@talorw8930 It depends how you see it. W3 wasn't loading free and it was an RPG. But yes, they could reuse and optimize their engine. But Rockstar never had to switch their genre. It was a long series of GTA games to extend. Cyberpunk was not only supposed to be their first of its genre but also the first to be seen that mixes W3 with Borderlands and Watch Dogs, both of which their respective developing houses also had experience.
As a computer programmer, you should know better than anyone that this game had issues that the coders knew existed, just didn't care about. The coders are just as much of liars and sellouts as the higher ups.
"2021... Here we go!"
I've heard that about 2020... Uh oh
9:50 Thanks for that clarification I saw your other one hour video on Cyberpunk 2077 and I thought you meant everyone at CDPR was lying...
Just wanted to say i finally got myself a switch because of you and your channel. Thanks for all the videos you make. They're really helpful as well as entertaining.