Every Halo Trilogy Level Ranked Worst to Best

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  • Опубліковано 2 бер 2023
  • In this video, I rank every level from the first 3 Halo games from worst to best. Originally, I thought about doing every game but I'm not familiar enough with 4, 5, and Infinite. Then I thought about doing all the Bungie games, so that would've included Reach and ODST. I decided to just do the original trilogy instead.
    Let me know what you agree with and disagree with and explain why!
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  • @TheMartyODonnell
    @TheMartyODonnell Рік тому +2173

    I agree with everything

    • @frogarchist
      @frogarchist  Рік тому +707

      marty has spoken I am objectively correct

    • @agentredguy1152
      @agentredguy1152 Рік тому +47

      @@frogarchist Facts

    • @alexl6644
      @alexl6644 Рік тому +84

      The Man-Emperor himself!
      Praise be to The Composer!

    • @adenjones1802
      @adenjones1802 Рік тому +37

      But there's no way grave mind is above the ark or the covenant. It just can't be. This is heresy!!!

    • @christopherblack8555
      @christopherblack8555 Рік тому +28

      Martin - I think the Halo score is hands down the best video game soundtrack of all time. Nobuo Uematsu who did many of the Final Fantasy games is a close second...but Halo, up until Reach, was on a different level.

  • @RocketBot
    @RocketBot Рік тому +275

    If Library isn’t #1 I’m going to glass your entire planet

    • @frogarchist
      @frogarchist  Рік тому +31

      Lol

    • @TheSimpelsimon
      @TheSimpelsimon Рік тому +30

      I actually love this level. it's simple but it's fun. hordes of enemies to show the terrifying power of the flood. You need to be constantly cautious!

    • @sinofacedia6544
      @sinofacedia6544 3 місяці тому +2

      @@TheSimpelsimon that’s exactly it! The overwhelming hordes as you push through similar looking rooms really strips you of the feeling of any progress. The constant dash to the end and anxiety of being overwhelmed really adds to the urgency of reaching the index. From a gameplay/casual standpoint it definitely is a slog, but when you look at it from a storytelling perspective it’s actually very well done!

    • @Morfalath
      @Morfalath 3 місяці тому +3

      Library being tedious and a slog is exactly the point, so i can't hold that against it
      Library also has insane flair and athmosphere
      Library has some of the best environmental storytelling in the whole trilogy
      ...... so easy #2 in CE (343 being #1) , but barely top10 overall

    • @onlyweatherlol93
      @onlyweatherlol93 Місяць тому

      👀

  • @todddouglas7231
    @todddouglas7231 Рік тому +309

    I actually don’t hate the library as much as most people. Fighting onslaughts of flood with the absolutely wonderful CE shotgun never gets old to me. I certainly can’t defend the overly repetitive geometry of the mission, but I love the crushingly bleak mood and atmosphere. It really hones the fact that the flood are a horrible unstoppable force. And as a big fan of bungies original halo lore: guilty Sparks small remarks indicate he recognizes us (humans) as forerunners.

    • @Whiteyy191
      @Whiteyy191 Рік тому +35

      Too bad 343 ditched the whole humans are forerunners thing

    • @ChrisPTenders
      @ChrisPTenders Рік тому +19

      Same here. Technically bad level, but great for storytelling impact.

    • @itsthemumu8585
      @itsthemumu8585 Рік тому +17

      I LOVE The Library. It’s probably in my top 3 levels in the entire series. CE Flood is a chef’s kiss.
      I always play it on Heroic, and it’s such a blast. You’ve got an infinite hoard of Flood, a shotgun, and (if you’re playing correctly) a Magnum. You feel like the most badass man in history, mowing down the hoard. Backpack reload your shotgun while you headshot a few of them. It’s such a fun time and I’ll even challenge myself to beat my top score and time without dying on MCC.
      I don’t know why this level gets so much hate. This level was built for elite gamers ;)

    • @Nirual86
      @Nirual86 Рік тому +1

      as a first-time experience or just generally playing through CE in Coop (which is most of my experience with the series when it first came out), its certainly a blast.
      It more starts to fall apart on repeated playthroughs with more experience. Having to wait for doors to be opened starts to feel more tedious than tense, etc.

    • @itsthemumu8585
      @itsthemumu8585 Рік тому +7

      @@Nirual86 for whatever reason I’ve had the opposite experience with the Library. The more I play it, the more I enjoy it. By this point I know every spawn, every enemy that can spawn down each specific hallway, and all of the glitches that make the level easier (though I rarely use them). But I think it just boils down mostly to me loving to fight the CE Flood. They’re always a swarm, which makes them a challenge, they don’t die to one or even two melee hits, you have to be careful with your grenades, and it’s a test in how well you strafe and use your kit to your advantage, which is a challenge that gets my blood pumping

  • @MillyBitchell
    @MillyBitchell Рік тому +265

    I’m shocked you ranked Tsavo Highway so low. That fight where you storm the bunker and fight off hordes with your Marines was epic.

    • @TheChocoboRacer
      @TheChocoboRacer Рік тому +7

      tsavo highway is so same-y. It is just boring in comparison to some of the action setpieces in H2, and H3 has less missions so it should 100% be only well designed levels.

    • @gregorypendell9260
      @gregorypendell9260 11 місяців тому +23

      Same. Tsavo Highway might be my favorite Halo 3 map besides The Covenant. I think it's far more memorable than the two levels that precede it.

    • @badcompany4821
      @badcompany4821 11 місяців тому +1

      3rd best Halo 3 mission after The Covenant and The Ark.

    • @jacobtridef48
      @jacobtridef48 Місяць тому

      Yea I was shocked too. Tsavo is a decent level

  • @DJAdams125
    @DJAdams125 Рік тому +83

    me: okay this ranking is pretty good
    *puts the Ark at only #5*
    me: “This Heretic must be silenced”

    • @adenjones1802
      @adenjones1802 Рік тому +12

      He did my boy covenant so dirty when he put grave mind at #1. I'm traumatized.

    • @DJAdams125
      @DJAdams125 Рік тому +5

      @@adenjones1802gravemind is great but the covenant and the Ark are easy top 2 followed by TSC

    • @adenjones1802
      @adenjones1802 Рік тому +2

      @@DJAdams125 I would put Halo (halo 3) and metropolis ahead of TSC. But its defiantly up there for sure. The only thing I remember from grave mind is the first room and breaking out all the prisoners which was fun but not as fun as the covenant.

  • @dylanherron3963
    @dylanherron3963 Рік тому +138

    Brother, you are honestly the reason I bought the Master Chief Collection and installed it yesterday. Your analysis of this series' history, impact on the industry and FPS'es as a whole, and the soundtrack have reminded me what an awesome time it was to grow up in this series' prime. I'll be honest, I've never played ODST or Reach, and look forward to doing just that. Also shout-out to Ex-Bungie goliath Marty for being super active in small content creators' space, he has been everywhere in the last year or so with pinned comments at the top of people's pages. Awesome to see him out and about the people's with less than 100k etc.

    • @toxenzz
      @toxenzz Рік тому +6

      Don’t forget Marcus Lehto. Another amazing developer and just all around guy

  • @jackofalltraits2145
    @jackofalltraits2145 Рік тому +86

    1:54 This is a very long comment but bare with me here:
    The reason why the interiors of "Cortana" don't look like High Charity from Halo 2 is because the level wasn't on High Charity. If your confused then let me explain. You know at the end of "Flood Gate" when your sent into the down Flood infested Covenant Cruiser and search to find Cortana's message? Well originally that section was going to be much longer and was basically repurposed for what ended up being the mission "Cortana".
    My evidence: You'll notice in the final game that "Cortana's" interiors are much more akin to the hallways of a Covenant Cruisers. The room with the Cortana Terminal is literally the bridge of the Cruiser and it's uninfected counterpart can be seen used as the Ship Masters Carrier in the ending cutscene to "Flood Gate", the opening cutscene to the "Ark" and in the memorial cinematic. You'll also notice that at the beginning of "Flood Gate" Miranda tells you to "Find the crashed flood ship. Overload it's engine core." Except you don't actually do this when you get to the ship, however at the end of "Cortana" you blow up the reactors to the infested cruiser reused as High Charity.
    The original level for "Cortana" can be seen in story boards and would have had you go back and explore a Halo 2 accurate, next gen infested High Charity. The objective would have been the same as in the final game, except the level would have a very different latter half. Chief and Cortana were going to be cornered in the Mausoleum of the Arbiter, where the Gravemind would finally reveal itself, after being in the shadows for the majority of the game. What would proceed can only be described as pure awesomeness: the Gravemind would infect/resurrect all the all the dead Arbiters and send them to attack you. To counter act this, Cortana would help you take control of a damaged Scarab, using it to fight off the Flood forms and the Gravemind. The level would end the same way with Chief escaping with Cortana, thanks to the Arbiter, and the three would head off to activate Halo.
    I honestly don't know why the changed this, the only possible reasons I can come up with are 1. There were disagreeing voices in Bungie, some who didn't want boss fights in Halo 3, after H2 failed to execute on them, and 2. Time was running out, money was bleeding and they needed a complete mission for "Cortana" so they used the last half of "Flood Gate". I think we can all agree that it's a travesty that the original idea for "Cortana" never saw the light of day.

    • @CallsignYukiMizuki
      @CallsignYukiMizuki Рік тому +11

      Oh fuck that honestly sounds badass. Oh what could have been...

    • @everythingsalright1121
      @everythingsalright1121 11 місяців тому +6

      Its almost certainly a lack of resources/time running out/simply game design changing as development went on. RejectedShotgun has a few videos that talk about the cut halo 3 levels, namely the "guardian forest" that was supposed to come after The Covenant. Id wager that game development time constraints likely were the culprit, as Halo 3 i think not only uses an upgraded/better engine than halo 2 (and developing an engine is no simple task) but they also had to crank out halo 3 in order for it to be the xbox 360's premier title.
      Halo 3 is a game that really shows that bungie tried to just make do with what they had. Besides all the cut levels, not being able to get back Truths original voice actor, some of the levels being unfinished (floodgate, cortana, guilty spark boss fight) and the short development time i think what we got is pretty good even without the rose tinted glasses of nostalgia

    • @jackofalltraits2145
      @jackofalltraits2145 11 місяців тому +2

      @@everythingsalright1121 I agree, Halo 3 to me is tied with CE. The reason why Bungie couldn't get Michael Wincott back is because he had signed a contract I believe which stated that his voice acting wouldn't be used in any promotions for Halo 2. However, due to H2's immense crunch, Bungie members were all over the place, and someone forgot about this very important detail and put some of Truth's voice acting into one of the trailers. Wincott was very upset, (not a Bungie but rather at Microsoft) and left the Halo franchise behind.

  • @Dasycottus
    @Dasycottus Рік тому +24

    "In the case of Halo 5, I played it once and never touched it again"
    That speaks pretty well to how violated we all felt 🤣

    • @evansutton6760
      @evansutton6760 11 місяців тому +3

      This is my first time watching this guy's videos, and that comment immediately gave him credibility in my eyes.

  • @BenPlaysGames
    @BenPlaysGames Рік тому +58

    Glad to 343 Guilty Spark so high - for me, it's one of those levels which transcends the series and is undoubtedly one of the genre's greats.
    Truth and Reconciliation as well as Gravemind are maybe a little high for me, but as long as there's solid rationale backing up the choices (which there is), I can't argue too much!

    • @frogarchist
      @frogarchist  Рік тому +9

      Oh hey, I've seen your stuff before! Thanks for watching

    • @BenPlaysGames
      @BenPlaysGames Рік тому +8

      @@frogarchist No worries dude, I'm sat killing time in an Irish airport, so this was a perfect way to while away 15 minutes or so. Keep up the good work!

    • @sandman8920
      @sandman8920 Рік тому +1

      @@BenPlaysGames truth and Reconciliation is the best Ben! Epic rescue mission.

    • @thedaltoid0266
      @thedaltoid0266 8 місяців тому +1

      Truth and Rec was a great mission, in my opinion. But Covenant, earth levels, and the 2 with the heretic have to be my favorite

  • @Kevageddon
    @Kevageddon Рік тому +25

    I definitely think that Assault on the Control Room and Quarantine Zone should have been higher, but thats mostly my love of snow missions and vehicle missions influencing that.

  • @insaneadem5014
    @insaneadem5014 Рік тому +35

    I actually like the Cortana level in Halo 3. It was fun with the horror elements and all the power weapons everywhere. It was one of my favorite levels.

    • @evanl8656
      @evanl8656 10 місяців тому +3

      Same, I used to have it as a kid because I couldn't figure it out but I love it now because of the whole "going into hell to get my girl back" element of it

    • @marcc.2365
      @marcc.2365 8 місяців тому +1

      I love that level! Imo, Floodgate was much weaker. I also love the food that change forms. They make the game challenging and fun.

    • @luismiranda8944
      @luismiranda8944 7 місяців тому

      I remember being so disappointed with Halo 3's story and thinking it'd be great if I could scratch off part of the disc that contained that level so I never have to play it again.

    • @jacobtridef48
      @jacobtridef48 Місяць тому +1

      Cortana prob the worst level in the trilogy tbh. But Its still good

    • @trekker105
      @trekker105 12 днів тому

      Now that I've played it enough to remember which room is which, it's honestly in the top third or so of my favorite halo 3 levels. If it had received even one additional art pass or whatever it's called, no chance it would have been as hated as it was.

  • @thusspokekayvon
    @thusspokekayvon Рік тому +27

    It makes me sad that so many people don't appreciate Two Betrayals. It might be my favorite one! It gives such a crazy good post-outbreak view of the world.

    • @PatrickAshe41
      @PatrickAshe41 11 місяців тому +6

      It's one of my favorites. I was aghast to see it low on this list. "Repetitive" but so moody, and a little bit of everything. Strategy pays off. Really feels like definitive Badass Master Chief.

    • @DeafeningCha
      @DeafeningCha 4 місяці тому +1

      It's my favorite CE level. It has the best enemy variety (with the Maw), excellent vehicle sections, and almost every encounter feels epic.

    • @gavinrobinson8925
      @gavinrobinson8925 4 місяці тому

      Not my favourite, but i still liked it more than control room, which i dislike as much as the library.

    • @cloudstrife9204
      @cloudstrife9204 3 місяці тому

      Great setpiece level , but sucks at higher difficulties. Especially those 2 wraiths at the end before the final control room.

    • @alexfisher5672
      @alexfisher5672 3 місяці тому

      It would be a phenomenal level if they toned down on the indoor bits and focused on the outdoor section

  • @lololol924
    @lololol924 Рік тому +9

    Tsavo Highway has actually become one of my favorite levels because it demonstrates just how versatile the sandbox can be with a bit of creativity.
    My fav way to play it is to slowly pick up any sniper or fuel rod gun I come across and hand it to a marine.
    By the end section, I have a troop warthog full of artillery marines that wipe any wraith or chopper that you come across!
    And in the section just before where you hold out against waves of brutes, they can actually blow up the phantoms!

  • @flyingcolors96
    @flyingcolors96 Рік тому +9

    I’ll never understand the hate The Library gets. As a kid, my siblings and friends at school all looked at it as the best level of the first 3 games.
    Then as I grew up and eventually decided to get back into Halo all I see is people online who hate it. It makes no sense to me 😂. I will forever love that level.

    • @gavinrobinson8925
      @gavinrobinson8925 4 місяці тому

      If you love flood levels and don't mind repetitive long missions, I guess so.

  • @TheGrizzledAncient
    @TheGrizzledAncient Рік тому +8

    Assault on the Control Room and Tsavo Highway are two of my favorites lol

  • @OozyGorilla
    @OozyGorilla Рік тому +47

    Funny you should mention Cortana doesn't look anything like High Charity. It was supposed to originally be part of a longer segment at the end of Floodgate. Instead of picking up Cortana in the second room, you were to fight through the covenant ship that crashed at the end of The Storm. That's why one of the rooms looks more like the Bridge of Shadow of Intent. It was a regular ship. I believe you were supposed to rescue Cortana at that point instead of near the end.
    Putting Covenant over the Ark? Definitely a based take. Covenant is the best level from H3.

    • @Nirual86
      @Nirual86 Рік тому +4

      yeah that actually makes a lot more sense. That crashed ship interior in Floodgate basically has the same visuals and it always felt a bit odd that it would randomly contain clues to Cortana's location... although that original plan wouldn't have made much more sense either. Seems like that whole section of the plot could've used some more revisions.

    • @LS-bw9xz
      @LS-bw9xz 11 місяців тому

      @@Nirual86 The end of floodgate too definitely looks like you would be going straight into Cortana just based off of it. Knowing about cortana before my first playthrough I thought it was the next level, not all the way at the end of the game (and playing with more random stalls for cortana and gravemind for the next few levels was grating as hell)

  • @kaylemjoseph8727
    @kaylemjoseph8727 Рік тому +9

    The covenant from halo 3 forever the best halo level

  • @RedAce93
    @RedAce93 Рік тому +1

    Absolutely love your list. So many other ranking videos put T & R, and Gravemind so low, and then put Tsavo Highway so high. Keep up the good work!

  • @Justfillintheblank
    @Justfillintheblank 11 місяців тому +9

    I actually REALLY enjoyed Cortana. There was something about the thrill of being alone in space hell, trying to find cortana, and then shooting your way out after finding her. I also enjoy fighting the flood as well...but that's controversial haha.

    • @Saberfighterx
      @Saberfighterx 6 місяців тому

      Cortana was my favorite flood level and is one of my favorite levels as a whole

    • @Downval
      @Downval 4 місяці тому

      Same

  • @GearsofCoss
    @GearsofCoss Рік тому +5

    Stumbled upon one of your videos while feeling nostalgic and looking up Halo stuff. Some great content and formats, keep it up and hope you start to gain some bigger traction soon!
    And definitely agree with a lot of your list, Gravemind always gave me such feelings of uneasy isolation when playing it as a kid, so it would be lower for me just because of that lol. I think my favorites were always the more open levels that had that even mix of wide open vehicle and on-foot set pieces like The Covenant, Silent Cartographer, or The Ark. Something about that feeling of freedom with exploration on alien installations felt so fun.

  • @matrixman117edits7
    @matrixman117edits7 Рік тому +1

    Just discovered your channel last night! Wonderful commentary and insight on what makes this franchise great. Instant subscribe.

  • @PandaJerk007
    @PandaJerk007 11 місяців тому +2

    Great list and video :) Overall I agree a ton! but here are the missions where I think you were off:
    Demote Floodgate a lot, and Crow's Nest some. Promote Assault on the Control Room a lot, The Maw a little, Outskirts & The Great Journey a little, and Cortana a tiny bit. (It was so cool to see High Charity overgrown by the Flood!)

  • @heeheex2
    @heeheex2 11 місяців тому

    love all the clips of the level speedruns, shows off how cool the runs are and gives a good taste of how mind blowing they can be the first time you watch em lol

  • @Alex-px9oy
    @Alex-px9oy Рік тому

    This list is alright. I love the effort and the explanations and can tell you have real love for halo. The only real gripe I have is the placement of Tsavo highway and gravemind

  • @couldntthinkofayoutubename6498
    @couldntthinkofayoutubename6498 10 місяців тому +3

    I love quarantine zone, its the only time in the series u get a vehicle centric level with covenant stuff, ghosts, wraiths, spectres, and u can even jump between warthogs and scorpions. Not the best level by any means, but still a rly fun one imo
    The ending section on the gondala though pulls the level down alot

  • @TherealWottie
    @TherealWottie Місяць тому

    Just found yor channel and i love it bro! 🎉

  • @John_962
    @John_962 11 місяців тому

    I just played through Halo 3 again and the level I was looking forwarded to most was Cortana. I also love the Library from Halo 1 since its a try-to-survive sort of level. Lol I am very amused to see some of my favorite levels at the bottom of your list!

  • @jasonmccleery2498
    @jasonmccleery2498 3 місяці тому

    Lol this is the same content over and over again yet I keep watching and I never regret it. Thanks frog

  • @regularphill
    @regularphill Рік тому +3

    Sacred Icon is my favorite Halo 2 mission because I like the sentinel-centered combat and I like the setpiece when you cross between two walls and there is snow falling down. The enforcers are pretty sick as well. (I also like the library but I still dislike Cortona)

    • @regularphill
      @regularphill Рік тому

      OK YOU A W MAN FOR PUTTING GRAVEMIND AT THE TOP!

  • @cjschaff317
    @cjschaff317 Рік тому +6

    I actually agree with this list.
    Gravemind was my most replayed level back in the day

  • @libertyprime8964
    @libertyprime8964 9 місяців тому

    What! Sacred icon and quarantine zone me go hard bro😂. Def in my top 10 levels. Good vid

  • @chadofastora
    @chadofastora Рік тому

    Instant sub, really appreciate the content man. That being said I’m personally not a fan truth and rec since I always play CE on legendary and am not a speedrunner

  • @jasonjada2259
    @jasonjada2259 8 місяців тому +1

    This channel is a huge gem

  • @caerxhan8313
    @caerxhan8313 Рік тому +5

    haven't played halo 2 in like 10 years and I recall somewhere in the middle around where you take control of the arbiter, there were like 5 levels that looked exactly the same and were the most dull and boring thing ever

  • @mauz791
    @mauz791 Рік тому +2

    Great list!

  • @shualopez1288
    @shualopez1288 8 місяців тому +1

    Interesting to see the Sacred Icon so low. It would make my top three, possibly even being my favorite Halo level. I loved the tense atmosphere and pushing through the flood as the air gets mustier and the lighting darker.
    I agree that the subsequent Quarantine Zone ought to be pretty low in standing though.

  • @Nirual86
    @Nirual86 Рік тому

    Some placements seemed a bit surprising at first but the more you explained it and the video refreshed my memory, the more I found myself agreeing with your rankings. Some levels I might've placed a spot higher or lower than yours but more out of personal preference between two levels of otherwise very similar quality overall.
    In fact, a lot of the levels are very similar in overall quality in my opinion. Even the worst ones have their qualities and fall apart more due to certain enemy designs or flaws that could be fixed or at least smoothed out without losing too much.

  • @crypticcomms
    @crypticcomms Рік тому +3

    Another top-quality vid! I'm curious, do you think the history of the skulls in Halo would be a good vid? Halo 3 skulls were one of my favorite aspects of the game when I was young (getting that Hayabusa armor was so satisfying). IDK thought it might be an idea for your style. Might just turn into a loot box hate fest tho lmao.

    • @crypticcomms
      @crypticcomms Рік тому

      also the headhunter game mode from reach could make an appearance

    • @frogarchist
      @frogarchist  Рік тому +2

      Yeah that could be a good idea

  • @techmonkey11
    @techmonkey11 6 місяців тому

    I appreciate the nod to how hard the mess hall was in #13: Pillar of Autumn. I just played that last night with some skulls on (no skips or speed running, just intended run-through) and it took me an hour to complete. It's been 20-21 years since I last played CE.... Getting old is kinda cool!

  • @bahlalthewatcher4790
    @bahlalthewatcher4790 Рік тому

    Great video, very well reasoned. Thanks for linking to my vid froggo!

  • @clintcook8691
    @clintcook8691 Рік тому

    I remember going through the triology for my first legendary play through about a year ago and I kept track of my times (along with MCC). TRC was my longest timed mission followed by AONCR. I beat Halo 2 faster than I did CE which is wild to heard how 2 is harder because of the jackets and brutes you fight later on.

  • @HeyImJerry
    @HeyImJerry 5 місяців тому +1

    The silent cartographer is my #1 pick in my opinion, it is peak halo without too much to throw at the player. It also helps that it was the only mission on the PC demo disc I had for admittedly far too long

  • @zadeoglesby
    @zadeoglesby 11 місяців тому

    I have good memories of me and my brother throwing ourselves at the library on Laso so nostalgia makes me place it pretty high

  • @jadoyon
    @jadoyon Рік тому +1

    "In the case of Halo 5 I played through it once and never touched it again."
    You had me on board for the whole video as soon as I heard that!

  • @Zaiqahal
    @Zaiqahal 11 місяців тому

    So glad a H2 level was your #1. My favorite game. And now that I think about it, Gravemind is probably my favorite too. Especially loved the music at the end.

    • @halinaqi2194
      @halinaqi2194 3 місяці тому

      Honestly, my favourite halo 2 may just be Delta Halo, then gravemind.
      Bow that I mod halo, I love playing sacred icon and quarantine zone, since I added a lot of unsc forces I certain sections of the game, creating these cool, 3 way or 4 way fights.
      I even made an odst squad progress through the wall as the player does, provided you don't kill them yourself, and regrouping with the other marines at that ledge before the long drop to that phantom with a lot of dead elites.

  • @mcupoplover8848
    @mcupoplover8848 Рік тому

    i agree with a lot of this list except for truth and reconciliation. that's my least favorite halo level of all time (except for every level from halo 5). i just have so many problems with it that would take forever to explain however i agree with most of it! great video man!

  • @Crudmonkey211
    @Crudmonkey211 6 місяців тому

    I know you said in your recent h3 play through that you would now put Cortana last and I agree simply for the constant interruption sequences from both Cortana and Gravemind.. the cutscene when you find Cortana and callback lines immediately after are a nice touch, though.

  • @ron5552
    @ron5552 Рік тому +2

    Finally Gravemind gets the praise it deserves, and T&R too. While I disagree with some of the low flood levels (I think watching and getting involved with the massive covenant V flood war that happens in Two Betrayals and Keyes is legitimately some of the most fun atmospherically and gameplay wise in CE), your top 12 is more or less exactly how I'd put it.

  • @codykolis7577
    @codykolis7577 Рік тому +1

    Very solid list, tho I was surely surprised to see truth and rec that high up.... then again that's coming from me who has ptsd from laso lol

  • @michaelcucchiara
    @michaelcucchiara Рік тому +1

    Gravemind vs the goat halo 3 mission comes down to nostalgia imo

  • @scorptatious
    @scorptatious Рік тому +10

    I'd personally put Sierra 117 and Tsavo Highway a bit higher up, but otherwise, good list.

    • @BananaMana69
      @BananaMana69 Рік тому

      They are better then most levels in Halo 2.

  • @AlanagilityUK
    @AlanagilityUK Рік тому

    I played CE in 2001. The thing that got me really engaged was the magnum as a load out weapon worked. FPSs at the time you dumped your load asap. Halo level confused me. But then truth and reconciliation. Omg. Sniping, grenadine, getting beat up in the hold out section ❤

  • @chuckmanion1128
    @chuckmanion1128 Рік тому +1

    I remember really liking metropolis. Two things I really liked were: A: vehicle sections and B: equipping a bunch of allies with rocket launchers, sniper rifles, and such and feeling like I led a bad ass squad. The level gave me both. It had a lot of powerful vehicles, powerful weapons, and allied marines. I also liked the challenge of keeping the marines alive. I know a lot of people didn't care about them living, but I thought it was fun.
    Also, I think I liked the scarab fight there much more, than I did in 3. Don't get me wrong, 3 was more interesting mechanically. But in 2 the scarab felt like an indestructible juggernaut. There was no way to beat it directly. In 3 they gave it too many exploitable weaknesses, so it felt meh. I remember finishing the fight the first time and being disappointed at how easy it was, despite the mechanics of the fight being so much more interesting. In particular, being able to shoot the inner shield and then the thingy from the ground without boarding if you got the right angle, it makes the scarab feel super weak. When enemy super weapons are that easily destroyed, I don't feel like a strong badass super soldier, the covenant just feels incompetent. Make me work harder to take it out.

  • @ndx6779
    @ndx6779 11 місяців тому +1

    The Library is really only a drag if you play on Heroic or Legendary.
    On Normal/Easy it's basically just 3D Doom. Just mow down the Flood with the shotgun, which by the way is the best shotgun in any of the games, making it a breeze (fastest reload, fastest pump cycle, longest range, largest shell capacity, and can be complemented by the Halo CE pistol).

    • @Tennischamp450
      @Tennischamp450 2 місяці тому

      I agree Keyes is a much much worse level

  • @hawkeye0378
    @hawkeye0378 2 місяці тому

    I actually enjoy playing Library, even on legendary. It’s fun to run around with the shotgun shooting a seemingly never ending enemy. The shotgun in halo CE has a great look, sound, and it’s so entertaining to shoot at the flood since it one shots them for the most part.

  • @Kobe_Bryant_real
    @Kobe_Bryant_real Рік тому +1

    Sacred Icon is one of my favorites, I really don't know why. Feels spooky, and the cinematic ride was lovely. High charity is fucking awesome. Horrifying...., two betrayals was extremely fun too. Ok, I keep editing this, but Assault on the control room is my all-time favorite, my dads too. Just blasting the covenant on a snow-covered area and compact spaces was fun.

    • @frogarchist
      @frogarchist  Рік тому

      If I did this again, I'd definitely put AOTCR higher

  • @TheFalloutFanBoy
    @TheFalloutFanBoy Рік тому +1

    90 seconds in, Interesting that you don't like the library since I've watched your other videos and you're obviously really good at the game (deathless run). As someone who's casually good, I always really like the library because I feel like it's just hard enough with it's non stop combat to feel pretty rewarding when you finish a section. I always felt like they synced up flood movement speed and attack animations to perfectly work with the shotgun fire rate, so this felt like an arcade level you could try to 100%.

  • @TheInkquestReviews
    @TheInkquestReviews Рік тому

    This video just makes me want to play through the master chief collection again! I had a feeling of dread with all the flood levels. Can't say I hate them (cept the Library) but it does sell the atmosphere very well in terms fighting the flood and the threat that they pose!

  • @HX_Andriu
    @HX_Andriu 5 місяців тому +1

    I don't know why guys, but I actually enjoy the library and the ambient. Also the fact that you're basically all alone (You are with a random you just barely met) touring a dark place infested with flood dealing with them all by yourself. No covenant, no humans.

  • @SocksFC
    @SocksFC Рік тому +3

    Hot take but I found Library fun on Legendary with Shotgun and Magnum and I thought Keyes was fun until the very end where you had to hijack a vehicle to escape

  • @Br0ken_playz
    @Br0ken_playz 10 місяців тому

    I honestly agree with more then half of what you said. I genuinely hate the Library btw its so looong and I get lost a lot plus its the same room again and again also same as that betrayal also sucks lol. Anyway love the halo content keep on going.

  • @nathanantol882
    @nathanantol882 5 місяців тому

    My hottest halo take is that I like the halo auto scroller sections. I like a shootout in a confined area where I can’t really run. Sure they’re annoying when bugs cause you to reset but I loved fighting the flood on the elevator in arbiter

  • @RobDaKid87
    @RobDaKid87 Рік тому

    Damn some of these shocked me. I like the library and 2 Betrayals was my favorite level in the original Halo. It was assault on the control room but had flood too. Thats why i liked it.

  • @ifoughtabear1nce53
    @ifoughtabear1nce53 11 місяців тому +1

    This list is perfect! Finally, someone recognizes Gravemind’s perfection.

  • @Just_a_Tool
    @Just_a_Tool 3 місяці тому

    I think High Charity is one of my favorite if not my favorite level in terms of environment. When I first played through it, you see this alien mega city of millions that you fight through. And then when the flood arrive, you see just how quickly they spread and annihilate the greatest city in Halo. It is by far the scariest mission to me because Halo 2 is the darkest game visually (This level actually made me turn up my brightness because I couldn't see anything), and the horror of seeing how quickly the city becomes overrun until there is only silence in the halls.

  • @Gameprojordan
    @Gameprojordan Рік тому

    The first time I ever played halo was the PC trial version of CE that included the Silent cartographer campaign mission, and an online mode with the blood gulch map

  • @crosseyedbilly
    @crosseyedbilly Рік тому +1

    I honestly get the fact that most people hate the library, but when I think back to days of playing this with my dad and my brother, on legendary we spent sooooo long strategizing how to get thru, I love the idea of really having to change guns all the time because you have no ammo, and even the annoying stuff like rocket flood don’t feel ridiculously unfair. All in all the library would probably rank in my top 5 levels. This is coming from someone who’s played halo 1s campaign hundreds of times.

    • @crosseyedbilly
      @crosseyedbilly Рік тому

      Also as someone who was so hyped as a kid for halo 2, that game honestly is not fun at all for me. I like legendary play throughs and it just is so unfair, the terrible difficulty curve from heroic to legendary basically makes 2 unplayable for me, and I would rank all their missions as boring. Nowwwww the story on the other hand is awesome as hell.

  • @captainmarvelwilson508
    @captainmarvelwilson508 Рік тому +5

    The one I really don't agree with is Truth and Reconciliation. The first half with the sniper is great, but on the ship it is not only hard, it is that most of the rooms are not that interesting compared to the forerunner architecture in Halo or the island in the Silent Cartographer.

  • @Canada407
    @Canada407 Рік тому +2

    Number 1. My favorite is Number 1. Most people hate it because of legendary but I never did so...

  • @jacobtuttle4311
    @jacobtuttle4311 8 місяців тому

    High charity is actually one of my favorite levels because of the atmosphere. Definitely my favorite flood level next to 343 guilty spark

  • @sandman8920
    @sandman8920 Рік тому +1

    Truth and reconciliation is my favourite. Love it it’s epic

  • @itsthemumu8585
    @itsthemumu8585 Рік тому +4

    Hold the hell up. I gotta stop you right at throwing the Library into last place. Library and Two Betrayals are among the best levels in the series.
    The Library gives you the best feeling of dread, feeling like a god among men, and difficulty all in one mission. I think it really cemented CE Flood AI as being my absolute favorite to fight against. As long as you know how to strafe, hit headshots with your magnum, and backpack reload your shotgun, the Library is such a fun, edge-of-your-seat level. Since I primarily play on Heroic (the way Halo was meant to be played), I occasionally challenge myself to see how fast I can beat it without dying. It’s one of my favorites right alongside Quarantine Zone, The Storm, Two Betrayals, The Covenant, and Truth and Reconciliation.

    • @Sparecards
      @Sparecards Рік тому +1

      Alright Micheal, let's get you back to your cell. I can't believe your straitjacket broke again!

    • @I_Am_Wasabi_Man
      @I_Am_Wasabi_Man Рік тому

      the library gave me the worst kind of dread; boredom. having to run through the same corridor over and over hoping the level would end soon - just for there to be another corridor of the flood jumping out of vents again? the level could've been fine if it was cut shorter. the length is super unnecessary

    • @itsthemumu8585
      @itsthemumu8585 Рік тому

      @@I_Am_Wasabi_Man many could say the same about AOTCR, and that level is even longer. You can complete the Library in under half an hour playing as you normally would, and the Flood encounters are the best in the franchise.

    • @I_Am_Wasabi_Man
      @I_Am_Wasabi_Man Рік тому +1

      @@itsthemumu8585 assault on the control room actually has variety with its environment and combat scenarios. with having the scorpion tank section, and the covenant arguably being way more fun to fight than the flood on foot.
      the library just consists of running through a corridor, look behind and shoot, run again, wait for door to open for what feels like an eternity, and rinse and repeat for the next half hour.
      the level could've been so much better if it was cut shorter

  • @iceblock8896
    @iceblock8896 Рік тому +2

    Dang. Quarantine zone is one of my favourites.

  • @selzars
    @selzars Рік тому +5

    Sacred Icon, Quarantine Zone, and the Library are definitely higher in my list. They're fun levels to mindlessly play through until you inevitably get rocket-flooded into oblivion. I understand why people don't enjoy them, but I wouldn't say they are necessarily bad levels. Cortana on the other-hand, is a bad level through and through.

  • @saikrishnaanish9264
    @saikrishnaanish9264 3 місяці тому

    Agree with rank 1 being given Gravemind, that level just blew me both story wise and Game play wise, I wish I forget playing this level and 343 guilty spark, so i can experience them again

  • @ublade82
    @ublade82 Рік тому +1

    Two Betrayals is a WAR
    And maybe the darkest point of Halo 1's plot. You just finish the grueling Library, you're like okay I got the index, this must be the way to defeat the Flood and beat the game. And then you get an even MORE grueling level. Fighting not just one enemy (Flood) like in the Library, but 3 ENEMY factions: sentinels, Flood, Covenant. And it's not contrived. Combined with you (humanity), you're in a game with 4 independent warring factions. And you have no marines anymore. Just you and Cortana. The scale of coming into the clearing with the Flood and Covenant in a full scale battle is awe. The first time you beat that level on legendary without dying is an extraordinary satisfaction.
    True AOTCR reuses the same map, but that level while classic is not much more than "tank go boom and sniper go pew," it's a turkey shoot of hapless Covenant.
    Underrated level, deserves to be #1 or anybody's top 5.

  • @TrustTheFrog
    @TrustTheFrog Рік тому +1

    Ngl as a kid I HATED silent cartographer for 2 reasons. 1. "Why DONT we have enough fire-power to get in?" We just stormed a beach and messed up the covenants welcoming party. And 2. I had no sense of direction is dark corridors as a kid so it would take me 30 minutes of blindly running around until I found my way out
    Now days I like it with the door skip

  • @Nahkapeippo
    @Nahkapeippo Рік тому

    Library was the most relaxed ride of the whole MCC legendary run I recently completed. I like popping those jumping spores with a magnum, gathering a train of combat forms into a huge stack and popping it with a grenade. Only died twice when the monitor takes its time to open a door. I completed Library on the PC port in 2003 the previous time.
    Sure the Lib looks a bit boring but I don't understand the hate. Chief can actually stay in the open for more than two seconds.

  • @anthonygraetz4746
    @anthonygraetz4746 Рік тому

    You deserve to have more subscribers.

  • @dingledoodles2615
    @dingledoodles2615 9 місяців тому +1

    My list (for each individual game):
    Halo CE:
    10. The Library
    9. Keyes
    8. Two Betrayals
    7. The Truth and Reconciliation
    6. Halo
    5. The Pillar of Autumn
    4. Assault on the Control Room
    3. 343 Guilty Spark
    2. The Silent Cartographer
    1. The Maw
    Halo 2:
    13. Sacred Icon
    12. Quarantine Zone
    11. The Oracle
    10. The Arbiter
    9. Uprising
    8. High Charity
    7. The Great Journey
    6. Outskirts
    5. Cairo Station
    4. Regret
    3. Gravemind
    2. Metropolis
    1. Delta Halo
    Halo 3:
    9. Cortana
    8. Crow's Nest
    7. Sierra 117
    6. Floodgate
    5. Tsavo Highway
    4. Halo
    3. The Storm
    2. The Covenant
    1. The Ark

    • @Tennischamp450
      @Tennischamp450 2 місяці тому

      Replaying CE rn, good list. Keyes is worse than the library for me, kinda cool setting but the gameplay in it is the most annoying in any Halo game.

    • @elvinkumar3709
      @elvinkumar3709 Місяць тому

      Bro speaks nothing but facts

  • @HOUROFPOW3R
    @HOUROFPOW3R 9 місяців тому

    Yoo truth & reconciliation is legit fave for me. It's the ultimate level to like--get that peak Halo experience in an afternoon after school/work, I remember playing it with my dad so many times as a kid. It's always hard to say its my favourite just because all the CE levels are A+ or S tier (not you Library) but it's really the one with the most fun level design, encounters, playstyles, etc. I actually always thought the non-vehicle parts of halo CE were the strongest anyways.

  • @JayS96Bruh
    @JayS96Bruh Рік тому

    Can’t say I’d agree with the exact placements, but by and large I agree with your sentiments. Personally, I’d put Two Betrayals higher than Assault on the Control Room, buts that’s just me. Also, not a big fan of Truth and Reconciliation. Top three levels imo: The Covenant, 343 Guilty Spark, Delta Halo.

  • @mathieutrenbolonesandwich2397
    @mathieutrenbolonesandwich2397 4 місяці тому

    Great video! Only thing i disagree with is that imo ; every missions having floods in them should all be tied at last place.
    Except the warthogs escapes

  • @defaultgraycat
    @defaultgraycat Рік тому

    You know the video goes crazy when the first few missions he mentions are missions I really like, lol.

  • @bruhSaintJohn
    @bruhSaintJohn Рік тому

    Ngl I kinda like tsavo highway level. It's not a level made to progress the story, it only has the gameplay going for it.
    But then the remix of broken gates kicks in.
    Which is definitely out there as one of the best halo moments to me.

  • @sourbrdn18
    @sourbrdn18 Місяць тому

    Stopping the video on #2 just to go back through to figure out what your #1 has to be.
    *oh you've gotta be kidding me

  • @thwgn138
    @thwgn138 11 місяців тому

    I was ready to protest The Outskirts being so low but then I resonated and agreed with your explanation, and had no argument.

  • @crumpetsack3909
    @crumpetsack3909 3 місяці тому

    Growing up, i never knew the library was so hated. I've always loved it

  • @jimmyrodriguez5670
    @jimmyrodriguez5670 Рік тому +1

    Won't have a hard time at all. Just have to look through 15 comments to find me. A guy who has The LIbrary in the top 5 Halo levels of all time. I love it.

  • @SamsarasArt
    @SamsarasArt 3 місяці тому

    I weirdly like Sacred Icon but that was my first experience with Halo 2 playing co-op with my brother. I found it to be scary but not a slog like the library.

  • @J94_Film
    @J94_Film Рік тому

    the music in Truth and Reconciliation is so fucking good

  • @TRLimpNoodle
    @TRLimpNoodle 11 місяців тому

    Maybe it’s the nostalgia from the original Xbox and this level had some of the best lighting but I loved outskirts so much growing up, definitely one of my favorites

  • @asherlyle
    @asherlyle 11 місяців тому

    My fave ever was truth and reconciliation I think we all like the ones we played when we were young

  • @ExternalDialogue
    @ExternalDialogue Місяць тому

    Huh, i kinda like Sacred Icon and Halo 2's flood. just sweeping a whole crowd of infection forms with a sentinel beam is super satisfying. Might be one of my favourites in Halo 2.

  • @darkranger116
    @darkranger116 8 місяців тому

    I think my favorite maps throughout the whole series are the ones where you can have allies with you.
    I mean dont get me wrong im incredibly lonely like every other gamer so its nice company, but more importantly, doing Heroic and Legendary runs where you dont lose a single Ally is incredibly challenge and fun and always will be for me

  • @thegeth4293
    @thegeth4293 11 місяців тому

    Could you do another videon the "bungie outro phase" of halo(i literally just made up this era). I mean odst and reach, those 2 games between halo 3 and 343 taking over, and yes, mombasa streets counts as a level

    • @frogarchist
      @frogarchist  11 місяців тому +1

      I considered doing a ranking just of ODST's levels

    • @thegeth4293
      @thegeth4293 11 місяців тому

      @@frogarchist also, if your wondering why odst was so short but still cost $60, its because bungie promised microsoft 2 games after halp 3 before they split. They already had reach in the works as their grand finale, and just needed to slap together a second game real quick

  • @ChrisPTenders
    @ChrisPTenders Рік тому

    I'd place The Library higher than a few Halo 2 levels. I was thinking this list was almost completely backwards to my taste, but T&C up there and Gravemind, I agree.

  • @Frosted_Over
    @Frosted_Over 9 місяців тому

    I agree with everything except I would just put the The Library in front of The Quarantine Zone and push everything behind the library back one. I just have a sweet spot for that map for some reason.

  • @bostonredsox49
    @bostonredsox49 11 місяців тому

    Quarantine Zone is my favorite Halo 2 level. 343 Guilty Spark still gives me nightmares

  • @jacobringenwald
    @jacobringenwald 11 місяців тому +1

    Also, I agree with you about Halo from CE being overrated, it's super repetitive, which is something that people complain about other levels and even whole games in the series but for some reason no ever points out that Halo is the same way