Every Halo 3: ODST Level Ranked Worst to Best
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
- What's up Frog Nation it's your boy Frog here (cringing as I type this) with another video, this time ranking Halo 3: ODST's levels from worst to best.
As always, this video is just my opinion so feel free to share your thoughts in the comments. However, do be aware that I am objectively correct in everything I say, so disagreeing with me necessarily means that you're wrong.
I'm convinced some issues in ODST and 3 are newer bugs from MCC. Buck not shooting when he's talking isn't one, but some behaviors even in ODST are a bit off. In 3, the Ghosts shoot at you non stop instead of doing intervals. There's similar issues like in Reach MCC, the Seraphs in Long Night of Solace shoot at you non stop as well instead of by intervals, and don't break off as they should like in og.
That particular section for Coastal Highway has always been a bottleneck for myself (The dialogue exchange for it is a permanent reminder of how much it can turn a largely smooth-going Legendary experience into among my most infuriating sections in the whole series and just downright obnoxious on any difficulty below). It doesn't help that when Buck actually fires upon targets he's long-already acquired, such things as the Banshee or the Wraith seemingly have other zones in which he targets, presumably to help the AI lead shots, but it can lead to Buck shooting past a Banshee's wing while it's strafing straight towards him.
I don't know how much of any of that might be altered by The Master Chief Collection and it's higher frame-rate caps (It's certainly possible, as there are more visual inconsistencies in Halo 4 MCC from the original than I ever noticed outside of it being a smidge less blindingly-bloomy-or-shiny), but I can at least tell you for certain that his difficulty with taking down Drones as a Warthog Gunner is a long-standing weakness in Halo 3's AI as a whole (They really like to dump the ammo of their automatic weapons into targets, even after they're verifiably dead, something that Reach resolved beautifully, but reared it's head back up in Halo 4 to even more frustrating results that I can only swear include them actually targeting already dead targets).
Coastal Highway definitely gets a lot more fun in Co-op when you can just have Buck ride shotgun (Maybe even with a heavy weapon) or have 3-4 players make his weaknesses almost completely negligible or even comedic, but I definitely remember that section of Coastal Highway still being the most difficult one on the Deja Vu runs I did with friends back on the Xbox 360.
I actually made Buck a lot more competent on the gunner seat during Coastal Highway in my ODST mod. And I made him able to shoot during scripted dialogue. Combined with other things to make his AI more attentive and reactive, it's quite a bit less harrowing and aggravating (though still rather hard). But yeah, in vanilla MCC (dunno about OG) ODST, Buck cannot shoot while saying scripted dialogue in this level.
pretty sure its because the tick speed of enemies is tied to the frame rate, so when the games were ported over and received the 60 fps upgrade, it also made the enemy shooting intervals twice as aggressive and longer etc
@elmiguelo1211 It reminds me of how Mass Effect 3 on PC had pinpoint accurate AI because the system that the game used to let you evade hitscan fire was tied to the framerate, and the coalesced.ini didn't compensate.
PC players were very confused on the old BSN when I described evading enemy fire by rolling.
…Maybe? I completed the XBOX 360 version of HALO 3 ODST like 1 month ago, on legendary too, ..not sure if that really matters, I mean the game is more challenging, and friendly AI are horrible in legendary, but Buck was quite accurate, basically he didn’t miss any shots on Banshees and ground troops, so maybe the AI is bugged in the MCC, I wouldn’t be surprised.
when he said "I'm a FRAAAAAAAWWWWG" I felt that.
Bro started sounding like the Lasergewehr from Wolfenstein II
If not for Data Hive, NMPD would be my fav just because of the banger song while holding out
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this is definitely my favorite halo game. the atmosphere, gameplay, levels arent all perfect, BUT the way they all fit together creates the best and most unique experience in any halo game I've played. If it had more time in development it would be a different story, but similarly how Bungie made the best of what they could in a short time and a challenge they had to overcome, this game becomes a short beautiful experience of overcoming the unacomplishable, what a wonderful game.
they arent all perfect but theyre all great thats what i meant to say, just could have used more time to polish or expand. but considering it was meant to be a small expansion, it almost is perfect.
Ah yes, another video from my favorite eldritch frog! And another video on my favorite halo game 🖤 Uplift reserve is my favorite level for the reason you THOUGHT you would like it better. I had the pleasure of playing ODST with friends, so yes, having buddies to roll around in warthogs in was SO much fun
Glad to see Data Hive at the top. Ever since ODST came out I've heard everyone on the internet say it is the worst mission/bottom tier, but I've always liked it and really dug the stealth vibe the first bit of the mission carries. Great work as always frog!
Really enjoy these level ranking videos! Keep up the good work!
that first clip of buck not shooting happens way too often
I wasn't a halo fan when odst originally came out did that happen in odst original release or only MCC
@@hmm8445 im not sure, i havent played odst on the 360 in a hot minute, but i think buck still didnt know what the trigger was in og odst
@@hmm8445 happens in 360 and mcc i beat both on legendary so i can say that you can either suffer through this or you have to get a friend to shoot/drive for you
ahhhhh another Frogarchist video! back again my guy, love your videos :D
Excellent work!!! Somehow, we.. you and other UA-camrs, hopefully can keep the Halo Universe alive until the next release.
I know, my hope is endless, but it's not easy to let go. I carried a torch for my first girlfriend from my teenage years for a couple of decades!
( before I realized we were basically incompatible and I was an idiot for thinking otherwise 😂)
ODST will always be my second favorite Halo game. The city is awesome & since I was a teenager it made me really wish our cities looked like that
Which is your favourite?
I just beat ODST on Legendary not too long ago. Coastal Highway suuuucks on Legendary. For some reason, Buck won’t shoot if he’s involved in dialogue; not only that, but if you get him in the passenger seat with a fuel rod cannon or SPNKR (like I did), he will not return to the gunner turret.
Between all that, and getting caught in an awful checkpoint loop where I would be killed in 4 seconds or less, I ragequit and restarted the level.
Data hive is pretty much peak halo tbh
halo has needed creepy levels for so long, similar to the o.g. showing of flood in halo 1, Cortana from halo 3, data hive as mentioned in this. It doesn't need to be a horror game but the flood is inherently scary and having that sort of tense feeling is necessary, halo 4 through infinite have missed this key part.
"I find it strange you can hijack a wraith as an ODST, but whatever." That was my initial issue with ODST when it came out. I expected a radically different Halo experience, since you were playing as a normal human soldier and not a genetically engineered super soldier, but it ends up feeling largely the same. Feels like a missed opportunity, like you could have had a Halo game that relied heavily on squad tactics and issuing commands like in Republic Commando or in early Rainbow Six games.
It sparks thoughts that the ridiculous capabilities of Spartans in the books are ONI propaganda to justify their experiments on children, and that it's all in the armour.
buck is an absolute nightmare on coastal highway on laso
YOU'VE NEVER ACTUALLY PLAYED THIS GAME, HAVE YOU? TERRIBLE LIST. BLOCKED.
gj frogman. Gotta love Coastal. Definitely an experience to play that level on LASO while on 160 ping.
Love your videos 👍
it's funny as someone who HATED Data Hive seeing the praise, most of your bottom levels were near my top!
7:06 I would honestly have to agree with you, it's not dissimilar to what Halo 2's original demo looked like
It's my favorite Halo game and one of my favorite games in general. Such an amazing piece. Old and short but is so good.
Personally I welcome our new Satanic Overlord FRAWGGGGG
Didn’t like this game when I first played it when I was 11, because it wasn’t Halo 3(2) but replaying in my 20’s I really appreciate the different tone and style. A true classic.
The older this game gets the more I appreciate its campaign. ODST is fantastic.
Hot Take: I hate sweeping the night time streets to get to the other levels. It was absolute hell the first time. The main levels? FUCKING GOD TIER.
I am definitely a odd duck because I love the library in Halo CE but don't really care for Truth and Reconciliation. Just love the pure slaughter that the library is.
2:34 Also to mention that the tank is actually just perfect for the pace of the level. The elephant that Dare and Vergil ride in is slow and warthogs go too fast. So you often leave them in the dist and then have to wait for them to catch up with you. With the tank, you and the elephant are basically on the same speed so the escort part actually feels fun. In fact, it's fun because you're sort of racing while also taking out threats.
Absolutely agree, don't know why they even bothered giving you a warthog other than just wanting to keep the tradition of having a hog run.
In other Halo Games each level tends to be a composite of one or two major themes and general gunplay.
In ODST, each level is specialised to one thing only: Corridor shooter, Warthog Fighting, Tank Level, Holding the Line, Sniper, Banshee, ??? (Hive), Warthog Run.
The Ark is fantastic, but when I give fuel rod guns to all of my marines, and it's 50/50 whether they make it through the wall with or without them is a downer.
I also sometimes just want to tank level, and then the tail-end of the Ark is just too much.
ODST's tank level is all tank, pure tank, and the tail-end is nice and short to wrap things up.
Data Hive at #1...did not expect that. I despise that mission. Good list though, ODST slaps
Personally my favorite tank level in a halo game is Metropolis which was the first Halo campaign Level I played when I was 12 years old
I like how getting stuck on that one segment of Coastal Highway on Legendary because "Fuck I Mean Buck" won't destroy the damn Banshees fast enough and Dare just keeps truckin along is a common thing. Like 90% of the rest of ODST was smooth sailing on Legendary, except for that one segment.
A 1940's detective brought into the 26th century to be more specific lol
0:02 SO RELATABLE!!!!!!!!! i ran ODST on legendary twice even tho i usually play on normal and i always wanted to shoot instead cause buck was near useless and i had to turn off the tilt skull (i was using it for some reason) just to beat the level because literally as soon as the garbage trucks shields fell it was DEAD
I think I agree with your tank section opinion.
Those first four seconds are actually me playing that section on *any difficulty* (Good Grief, does he need a modder's touch to persuade him to fire on targets at the same distance he acquires them, if not extend both equally!). For a game that can be pretty easy going on Legendary as a whole, this ends up making that section alone among the most infuriating sections of all of the Bungie games (It's definitely the toughest one I remember having to get past doing Deja Vu with friends back in the heyday). Coastal Highway is a *much* more fun level in Co-op, but playing it Solo, I wish there was less vehicle swapping to reduce the stop 'n' go pacing or at least that Buck were able to live up to Reach's Friendly-AI Gunner proficiency (They could easily take on Drones with how quickly they can switch targets all the while Halo 3 Gunners get very distracted on targets they've already killed, which is still not as infuriating as Halo 4 Gunner AI actually switching to already killed targets).
I don't play Kizingo Boulevard that often, but even I can say, despite it playing upon my pet peeve of making protecting friendlies difficult (Which in ODST is especially closer to impossible as Bungie severely decreased their health to the point that they'll die as soon as gunfire erupts on any difficulty), the Tank section is just condensed joy (I'm still sad that the in-game 'Street Sweeper' doesn't have who-I-think-is Harry Hmura's heavenly guitar work that the Official Soundtrack does, as it's one of my most beloved Halo 3: ODST soundtrack pieces and would just make a great level just that bit greater).
NMPD HQ is probably my favourite to revisit (Kikowani Station is a good second for similar reasons) as there's no need to look after friendlies and it is just non-stop action. The only thing that bothers me there is how Banshees absolutely insult your Mounted Missile Pod use by simply flying off to the side to completely evade the lock (Not even Barrel-Rolling as you'd expect or be able to take advantage of Tough-Luck-style, or even boosting away, just casually flying off toward the building, presumably while making inappropriate gestures at you in the cockpit).
Data Hive is definitely a highlight. A main mission that only brings the Noir vibe of the Mombasa Streets with it, but brings everything from Rookie's search for his team to Sadie's Story together for a penultimate wrap up, and it is just a greatly paced level that steadily ramps up from small stealth/"stealth" encounters to bigger & louder firefights before heading topside for the explosive escape.
All-in-all, while Ruby's Rebalanced Prototype promises a really good time with:
- Unlocking more of the arsenal such as the Battle Rifle, Energy Sword, the Halo 3 Pistol & SMG (With Ruby's Rebalanced values & a fully-extended stock for both SMGs)
- Introducing an AR-GL for at least Buck
- Bringing Elites into Tayari Plaza & Mombasa Street encounters
- Presumably giving friendlies similar or equivalent durability & lethality upgrades to Ruby's Rebalanced - Halo 3
with other mods out there keen to smooth what few rough edges there are, fill what holes they see or otherwise put a twist on things, Halo 3: ODST is just a great time as whole. Short, yes, but sweet nonetheless.
ODST's Marines actually have the same base tanky H3 health in ODST, but the problem is that a lot of them are hit with low health scripts (they get like 0.1 health or something). All the Marines on Tayari Plaza get hit with it after some time. Similarly on ONI Alpha Site, some Marines and your final set of cops get hit with them as well (the mentioned cops after the turret section). On Uplift Reserve, only the crazy Marine and his medic are hit with them. Shouldn't be any Marines hit with low health scripts on Kizingo Boulevard. I removed some of these low health scripts in my ODST mod and made some Marines/cops revivers anyways (granted, me adding in extra reviver allies is nothing new). (And like I mentioned above, I improved Buck's competency on a turret on Coastal Highway.)
That would explain why you see it in some missions or encounters and then you don't in others.
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My least favorite level is where your on top of a watch towr trying to shoot down like 1 million banshees
Coastal Highway went from one of my favorite levels on heroic to easily my least favorite on Legendary. I don't remember any other AI gunner being as terrible as Buck. Those Grunts with Fuel Rod guns on the raised platforms? Buck doesn't shoot them. Banshees? Buck doesn't shoot them. Ghosts? Buck doesn't shoot them fast enough.
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I guess you can say Halo 3: ODST is the unannounced continuation of the show of FireFly with Six from Battlestar Galactica considering the excellent cast
the warthog section was awful, the only thing that worked for me was driving it half way and then jumping out and trying to dodge everything while buck stayed in the hog, for some reason the hog never blown up
Coastal Highway on heroic is a blast, I'd rank it above Uplift Reserve and Tayari Plaza. Kikowani Station is probably my least favorite, the location you fight the Scarab in combined with doing it in a Banshee make it the worst Scarab fight in the series imo.
Great video
I played laso on ODST recently and coastal highway was the most painful piece of garbage ever
also great vid
Play through odst with the rework mod I did and its amazing to play through
Christ bless you, I should reply odst man
I STILL haven’t played this
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Coastal Highway sucks, but Coastal Highway with co-op friends is a blast
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I forgot about odst
How
I Would love to scale down size of odst. I want them smaller so grunts and brutes can be more scary.
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Costal highway is my Number 1
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Coastal highway is my favourite lol
Data hive is my least favourite lol
4:17 I just want to say that you are wrong about this bit. It is cannonical that marines and odst take less damage from the jackal snipers on legendary. Nothing changed, you're just on the other side of the coin now.
here's my ranking.
best level: the soundtrack
worst level: everything else
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Hey I just wanted to ask if you would love to play halo 3 odst firefight if you want.
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uplift reserve best forever
Buck is a gunnery sergeant, not a sergeant. Gunny is two whole ranks above sergeant
interesting but understadable list.
Some of the par times are ridiculous
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That's the main reason why I never bought ODST when it came out. Barely any content for a full priced game. Now if it'd kept when it was supposed to be as Halo 3 DLC than that would have been fine.
And it's also because that story felt like a Disney movie due to how light hearted it is unlike halo reach and the characters are cheesy and campy as hell and one of my least favorite characters in this game that I cannot stand is Dare.
I would have to say Prepare to Drop should be counted as a level. It differs from the other street levels along with being the intro to the game.
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Last mission is just too repetitive
Third
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