Tyroc: DC Comic's First Black Reality Warper

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  • Tyroc: DC Comic's First Black Reality Warper
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    Despite the fact that DC comics has not always been as progressive as it is today, there is a character that many people do not know about that deserves to be shown, Tyroc. Tyroc was an extremely powerful DC Character back in the 1970's. Let us know any questions and theories you may have about the series as a whole. Also, help us make our videos by leaving suggestions down below.
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  • @zenbrown9692
    @zenbrown9692 3 роки тому +29

    So Tyroc is the Bustah Rhymez of the LOH. Saying YA YA YA YA YA or WOOHAAA etc. activates his different abilities

  • @MoesTube1
    @MoesTube1 3 роки тому +27

    I always say Tyroc's power to alter reality with the power of his voice is a power all Black people have. 👊🏾✊🏾

  • @georgetinker1292
    @georgetinker1292 3 роки тому +25

    To me? He was a more sophisticated Banshee. Instead of one scream. His screams were more powerful. I never get why the make Black characters are made so powerful they can't be used fully? Or can be knocked out very easily.

  • @dramonmaster222
    @dramonmaster222 3 роки тому +26

    So he had screaming Reality Powers? That sounds hilarious but also kind of cool.

  • @Toshiromaru1
    @Toshiromaru1 3 роки тому +11

    You Know If They Would Have Never Nerfed Him He Could Have Been DC's Answer To Black Bolt

  • @dupaul5429
    @dupaul5429 3 роки тому +8

    Great video. One day black superheroes will have their day in the sun. Retelling the same stories for the past 40 years is one of the reasons DC comics and Marvel are failing today. Tyroc should have his own comic book series.

  • @daviddavis8918
    @daviddavis8918 3 роки тому +13

    I used to buy those comics back then he was pretty cool.

    • @genohall2235
      @genohall2235 3 роки тому +1

      My Older Brother Had Bought This Book...

    • @JcLazy1
      @JcLazy1 3 роки тому +2

      I have his first appearance if you want it.

  • @Rahsaun77
    @Rahsaun77 3 роки тому +10

    Oh shyt, it’s Jim Kelly.

    • @genohall2235
      @genohall2235 3 роки тому +3

      Michael Gallien
      Underrated Post....

  • @Supremmo
    @Supremmo 3 роки тому +5

    Tyroc's homeland was like North Sentinel Island in a way.

  • @TheTiger2311
    @TheTiger2311 3 роки тому +10

    DC comic did that with black super hero's ,give them clueless superhero uniform that was out of this world .But Tyroc had incredible ability back in the 70's should have been better written and a black writer would have made a difference on this character handler correctly.

    • @AlternativeFactuals
      @AlternativeFactuals  3 роки тому +3

      Most characters that are black need to be written by black writers

    • @TheTiger2311
      @TheTiger2311 3 роки тому +3

      @@AlternativeFactuals Facts!

  • @bossbradley
    @bossbradley 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you for this video. I didn't know about this character.

  • @brumtownmiller6130
    @brumtownmiller6130 3 роки тому +8

    The game skyrim has the main character, powerful wizards and dragons that uses their voice/ dragon language as powerful magic. Different words have different affects or powers. Its actually not as silly as its sounds, just dc used stupid words to represent his sounds.

    • @AlternativeFactuals
      @AlternativeFactuals  3 роки тому +2

      I agree, the screaming wasn’t the issue. What they made him say was the problem

    • @Justice4some
      @Justice4some Рік тому

      Lol my hammer and my words of power 🤣

  • @user-gy3fi7qj3g
    @user-gy3fi7qj3g 3 місяці тому

    I'm glad they mentioned Tyroc, I remember the character and little is said about him

  • @nicktmccoy3301
    @nicktmccoy3301 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for the education on Tyroc!! Mad Grateful!!

  • @Momo-os3ej
    @Momo-os3ej 3 роки тому

    I am watching the ads you deserve it brother 👊🏽👊🏽👊🏽👊🏽

  • @onyx081
    @onyx081 3 роки тому +6

    I knew about this character. It's a shame that they nerfed him and basically turned his power into a generic sonic scream. I liked his original power set of being able to manipulate reality with his voice. It was a unique take on reality warping and they could have done a lot with that concept.
    You should do a video on Miranda from (Earth-TRN656). She was in 'X-Men: Worst X-Man Ever', a miniseries about the mutant, Bailey Hoskins who could self detonate, but only one time. She's quite possibly the most powerful character in Marvel

    • @AlternativeFactuals
      @AlternativeFactuals  3 роки тому

      I heard about her, I might do a video about her in the future

    • @genohall2235
      @genohall2235 3 роки тому

      My Older Brother Actually Had This Original Comic. I Was So Lucky My Brother Had So Many
      Comics That I Was Reading All the Time and Got Hooked on the Genre. Especially the Legion...

  • @deyonjamison2821
    @deyonjamison2821 3 роки тому +1

    TYROC WAS JUST AWESOME PLEASE TALK ABOUT MON EL AND ULTRA BOY PLEASE

  • @k.tucker2011
    @k.tucker2011 3 роки тому +2

    That was dope. I hope they bring him back

  • @tracylee4451
    @tracylee4451 3 роки тому +3

    I'm still listening so he was a screaming super pimp😂😂😂 got those Michael Jackson chains on his super suit. I love it😂

    • @AlternativeFactuals
      @AlternativeFactuals  3 роки тому +1

      That’s what their intentions were, they tried to make his character as ridiculous as possible

    • @tracylee4451
      @tracylee4451 3 роки тому +1

      @@AlternativeFactuals 😂😂I see. It's funny but not funny always trying to make us look stupid

    • @Justice4some
      @Justice4some Рік тому

      @@tracylee4451 it’s not funny at all 🤨

  • @pinoyavenger8850
    @pinoyavenger8850 3 роки тому +3

    His costume is totally ridiculous. I hope they don't make live action appearance of him with that.

    • @Justice4some
      @Justice4some Рік тому

      They did that on purpose because wtf do that brother got on ?

    • @brandonleguzamon9108
      @brandonleguzamon9108 3 місяці тому

      It's basically the same as Power Girl 😐 only more low-cut and without a cape

  • @rogergordon974
    @rogergordon974 3 роки тому +3

    I bought and still have the first appearance of this character. I was excited to finally see a Black character in the Legion. They completely dropped the ball with his introduction. An island where all the Black people lived 1000 years in the future? Not a continent but an island. Not well thought out. The characters powers were too broad and Ill defined. The potential was there but the execution was horrible. I always hated the fact that he was ultimately written out of the group and went unused for decades. He coulda been a contender.

  • @Supremmo
    @Supremmo 3 роки тому +2

    After watching your vid, I wish they revamp this character and give him his own miniseries. I would keep the island that he's from and ditch the costume.

  • @MarcRock76
    @MarcRock76 3 роки тому +4

    First off! There is no F@cking way a black superhero would were that outfit!
    Second they should have taken a note from Marvel and at least made his back story relevant to his powers.

  • @KamuiCage
    @KamuiCage 3 роки тому +1

    Fred the "Hammer" Williamson Played in Super Bowl I

  • @foxxwallace7137
    @foxxwallace7137 3 роки тому +1

    Sound creates light, light makes everything.

    • @Justice4some
      @Justice4some Рік тому +1

      Sonoluminescence is the act of energy emitting light

  • @visionaerie
    @visionaerie 3 роки тому +3

    Okay so he was basically a reality warping rapper.... and he lives in this Brigadoon like island( DC Comics version of wakanda)..... so why can't he get a cool makeover.... bring back his old original powers...
    ditch the suit and little white booties.
    He is basically a black version of Black Bolt

  • @PipNPensPublishing
    @PipNPensPublishing 7 місяців тому

    I hope you get back into doing videos like these fam.

  • @markstriker925
    @markstriker925 3 роки тому +13

    So they downgrade him to a reality screamer. That's so stupid 😂😂.

    • @AlternativeFactuals
      @AlternativeFactuals  3 роки тому +5

      What else is new Lol

    • @gabrielhughes8221
      @gabrielhughes8221 3 роки тому +2

      @@AlternativeFactuals oh wow thank you , you bring back memories that I'd almost forgot about this Black character

    • @gabrielhughes8221
      @gabrielhughes8221 3 роки тому +1

      However DC comics I'd believe it have more black characters more then Marvel? I'd could be wrong about that because In Truth back then American comics entertainment studios publisher company own All the comics ,Novels, magazines with comedy and cartoons. All that come from American comics know to as Actions Comics and Detective Comics, So DC comics publishers was the First company comics out there at the time. Stan Lee followed his uncle, in comics business but Jack Kirby and few others their got and keep things moving forward . Stan Lee got into business because of his uncle.

    • @AlternativeFactuals
      @AlternativeFactuals  3 роки тому

      Gabriel Hughes I think currently Marvel has more Black characters, but I’m not 100% sure. DC has characters they haven’t used in over 15-20 years so who’s to say they still don’t have more black characters

    • @gabrielhughes8221
      @gabrielhughes8221 3 роки тому

      @@AlternativeFactuals Hmm this is Truth. It's just DC are more comfortable or let's be more honest here less racist of wanted to used a black character more then Marvel. Although I'd dont know what the reason X-MEN series and comics came to be because it was a Related towards realistic thing's , like Racist and hate speech and hatred towards others people who are different to others and have different world views how others see in Religious beliefs. Go back on the X-Men world view is of mutants nonetheless it's still about Homosexual, Religious and against Black people and people of colors. BLACK People are at the rate higher because black people at a higher risk.

  •  3 роки тому +2

    wassup my guy great content as usually. I heard of this character he has the potential to be high on the food chain but they kinda did this character dirty like "sonic screams" like come on now

    • @AlternativeFactuals
      @AlternativeFactuals  3 роки тому

      He had the potential until he was severely nerfed and retconned later on

  • @dennisgarrett5071
    @dennisgarrett5071 5 місяців тому

    Have there ever been a write-in suggestion for the to bring Tyrol back. He was in the audience/cover page, for Bouncing Boy and Duo Damsel, when they came out with the big Annual Edition.

  • @WTSD850
    @WTSD850 3 роки тому +1

    You know in dc comics sound manipulation if fully mastered can warp the fabric of reality so that would mean his screaming powers are simply a prelude to his true unadaltered power that he has actually mastered in past stories

  • @Quandryification
    @Quandryification 3 роки тому +4

    Marvel was a couple of decades ahead of DC.
    I hated Tyroc ( im 53) because he was an angry stereotype with no nuance.

  • @chrismorgan8478
    @chrismorgan8478 3 роки тому +1

    DC would give him a ridiculous power then consecutively dwarf his abilities..😒
    I didn't know much of Tyroc but i think i've heard of him before I'd learned of Jakeem Thunder.
    great video as always bro💯👏.

  • @BluemoonLacrymosa
    @BluemoonLacrymosa 3 роки тому +1

    I know people have been saying it but I have to say it too; they completely nerfed Tyroc. I had no clue about this with him (i didn't really ready Legion of SH). Aside from the odd 'sounds' his powers were top tier. It gets really annoying when they give black characters these super powers and then can't properly write them/leave them in limbo

  • @tracylee4451
    @tracylee4451 3 роки тому +4

    Thanks for the history prior to Black Lightning...you know I love Black Lightning 😂❤ oh they treated him like a super pimp smh damn.

  • @gabrielhughes8221
    @gabrielhughes8221 3 роки тому +20

    ID hate when their downgrade and Depowered a powerful black character figure. Give back his original powers to him.

    • @Supremmo
      @Supremmo 3 роки тому

      I agree but flesh it out somewhat.

    • @MrKD1970
      @MrKD1970 3 роки тому +4

      Also give home back the Jim Kelly afro and add pant legs to his original outfit

    • @gabrielhughes8221
      @gabrielhughes8221 3 роки тому

      @@MrKD1970 lol good one 🤣😂

    • @z0b0und49
      @z0b0und49 3 роки тому +1

      They can take the costume though

    • @fate254
      @fate254 3 роки тому +1

      @@z0b0und49 his costume is awesome tho.

  • @JcLazy1
    @JcLazy1 3 роки тому +1

    I own his first appearance comic book.

  • @MoesTube1
    @MoesTube1 3 роки тому

    He makes a brief appearance in the animated movie Justice League vs The Fatal Five but don't blink! His powers are depicted as sonic Black Canary/Banshee type abilities though.

  • @InnerCityRocker
    @InnerCityRocker 3 роки тому

    Maaannnn... Bruh... WTF Does He Have ON??? LMAOHH!!☝🏼😂😂😂

  • @themadfitted
    @themadfitted 3 роки тому

    Just brought his first appearance

  • @marih_2017
    @marih_2017 3 роки тому

    oh ok i think i remember him very briefly tho

  • @johnmshaw49
    @johnmshaw49 3 роки тому +1

    Man, that's Jim Kelly

  • @nottydread4u
    @nottydread4u 3 роки тому +1

    I actually had this comic ( I was a big Mike Grell fan) and I was really excited about Tyroc and really liked his power but DC didn't use him at all I only remember him appearing in 3 LOSH issues DC didn't believe Black Lives Matters in the 70ies.

  • @asianfatguy4107
    @asianfatguy4107 3 роки тому

    he should be played by Collin Kapernik. forgive my name spelling mistakes.

  • @joshua2764
    @joshua2764 3 роки тому +1

    So they made everyone forget about this OP character because he is black...
    Wow!
    And the fact that he hasn't even been seen in any media before at all

  • @joshua2764
    @joshua2764 3 роки тому

    Can u made a video of Monet from the X-Men?

  • @brothaantone8286
    @brothaantone8286 3 роки тому

    This is why we need more black superheros. We need a black superhero that’s gonna standout like goku, Superman, Naruto, and Batman. We need a black superhero like them. 😏✊🏽

  • @satch422
    @satch422 3 роки тому

    They should rebrand him as Skyrok and give him the same abilities but make it like he has some tech to help him manage his powers like a watch and bring back bloodwynd and put them and Mr terrific in a mini series

  • @WTSD850
    @WTSD850 10 місяців тому

    I'm pretty sure his timeline was wiped out same as saturn girl

  • @JetBlakNinja
    @JetBlakNinja 3 роки тому

    I actually bought and still own the Bates/Shooter & Grell Legion run which included Tyroc's debut.
    Even as a child, you could tell that DC hadn't a clue as to what they were doing with the character, from a background and motivation stance.
    That being said, I always saw his powers as a significantly more powerful version of Banshee (Sean Cassidy) of the X-Men. Both possessed sonic or voice-derived powers they could use for a number of effects. Tyroc's were just more potent.
    While his story may have been.....irritating, the creative team was successful in creating a new character who was as powerful as some of the strongest Legion members but one who's powerset was not a Superboy clone (Mon-El/Ultra Boy/Dev-Em).
    I feel they missed a great opportunity by not developing Tyroc better. However, we are seeing today that when a character is created solely to advance a political agenda as opposed to telling a good story, it always fails.

  • @RubeusArchos
    @RubeusArchos 3 роки тому

    Learn something new..thank you for that.its shame he watered down.

  • @treylakingz9029
    @treylakingz9029 3 роки тому

    Yo I heard tyroc went diamond with his second album lol. Yo fam much respect for trying to do the sounds lol. But on the real he could be a powerhouse like black bolt if used right. Maybe more powerful

  • @TajimaMunenori
    @TajimaMunenori Рік тому

    Damn straight he has to wear white gloves!

  • @p4rt_t1me_g0d
    @p4rt_t1me_g0d 3 роки тому +3

    Never liked him, even as a child I knew something was off about his design and powers!
    It's very telling that Superman was dragging him off in chains on that one cover!

    • @AlternativeFactuals
      @AlternativeFactuals  3 роки тому +1

      Yo! I was reading it and I find it problematic that he seemed to have had a bunch of trials and tribulations in such a short time since he came into DC

    • @Supremmo
      @Supremmo 3 роки тому +1

      Alternative Factuals He wasn’t a well thought out character

  • @dondarnel1149
    @dondarnel1149 3 роки тому

    Yep, had an issue with him in it.

  • @RubeusArchos
    @RubeusArchos 3 роки тому

    I have a curious question .why did you call your channel Alternative factuals. Iam fully aware what the word means. It's defined as something that is false.what dose it mean for you?

  • @MrKD1970
    @MrKD1970 3 роки тому

    Most, if not all, black characters seem to get the same unique secondary mutation: the ability to enter (but not exit) the phantom zone or limbo. Examples: Prowler, Shola Inkosa (Excalibur), Kasper Kole, Thunderball, & Nightshade. Marvel set up most of these characters in current stories that would have allowed them to be returned and then seemingly said screw it. Most of them should have been featured in the now canceled Agents of Wakanda, but no. It's funny to me that an all or mostly white team gets every chance in the world but a black team (The Crew) takes years to get a second chance. As far as DC goes, if you're not Green Lanternor Cyborg you can forget it. Black Lightning was ignored for years. Once again, great content.

  • @wisemenbough1
    @wisemenbough1 3 роки тому

    That's JIM KELLY

  • @markherron1407
    @markherron1407 2 роки тому +2

    The champion 🏆 of dimension-shifting island 🏝️ Marzal,Troy Stewart generated sonic screams that could variously create anti-gravity fields, explosion 💥 teleportation, and other effects! He encountered the Legion of Super-Heroes when his island 🏝️ appeared in their future! Initially suspicious, Stewart joined for a time before returning to his responsibilities on Marzal! Go HUG someone today IF they're been vaccinated and Happy Father's Day and Happy Juneteenth Day! Blessings and Hugs 💖💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕!

  • @JETVISION1
    @JETVISION1 3 роки тому

    Why does he look like....Jim Kelly

  • @AWFarmer
    @AWFarmer 3 роки тому +2

    That's more nerfing than,... Dang, any character I can think of on the spot. Well, at least he can stay black...

  • @jbabylucus1641
    @jbabylucus1641 3 роки тому +6

    That outfit man. I'm glad comics moved away from that to some degree.

    • @AlternativeFactuals
      @AlternativeFactuals  3 роки тому +1

      It looks outrageous doesn’t it Lol

    • @fate254
      @fate254 3 роки тому +2

      I like the costume, he looks fire in it

    • @kolins.4356
      @kolins.4356 3 роки тому

      Facts man, the first suit looked strange on him.

    • @kolins.4356
      @kolins.4356 3 роки тому

      @@fate254 Bruh his suit wasn’t that good in the first comics he was in.

    • @Justice4some
      @Justice4some Рік тому

      @@fate254 almost fire

  • @TechnologyTidbits
    @TechnologyTidbits 3 роки тому +3

    He has too much resemblance to Jim Kelly.

  • @caylya7869
    @caylya7869 3 роки тому

    Looks like black beyonder just saying.

  • @gunfu1393
    @gunfu1393 3 роки тому

    11 skiped secrets. I almost didn't watch it.
    So he has Blackbolts power. D.C. is dry comics. They could have made this guy awesome.

  • @michaelstarr7717
    @michaelstarr7717 3 роки тому +1

    Very well do I remember TYROC Tge Screamer. Rahcist ass shit, but that costume! MegaCringe Disco!

  • @jinkariya2127
    @jinkariya2127 3 роки тому

    Yeah they screwed him over!😥#wontletablackmanbegreat

  • @kolins.4356
    @kolins.4356 3 роки тому

    A black male version of black canary? What? Tyroc ain’t nothing like her. The dude has a lot more versatility with his different screams.

  • @michiganswagger1
    @michiganswagger1 3 роки тому

    I remember Tyroc. I thought he was a cool character. It's just sad that DC doesn't care about black characters.

    • @fate254
      @fate254 3 роки тому +1

      yeh for real. he has a good concept i like his origin too

  • @rholmes568
    @rholmes568 3 роки тому +2

    Talk about how Marvel's Apocalypse USED to be Black then was slowly changed into a White guy, then into the purple/blue creature he currently is. Marvel was dirty for doing that.

    • @jonhsosa7600
      @jonhsosa7600 3 роки тому

      Thats right they changed him just like all the pharaoh of Kemet
      Kemet means Blacks Land🤔

  • @amilombanugo8321
    @amilombanugo8321 3 роки тому +1

    Bruh..that outfit 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @fate254
      @fate254 3 роки тому

      what is wrong with it

    • @fate254
      @fate254 3 роки тому

      LioSlayer for the part of you which dislikes it
      Why??

    • @fate254
      @fate254 3 роки тому

      LioSlayer I’m kind of bored with 90% of superheroes wearing pants
      That’s why I like the change here
      But respect ur opinion

  • @superfatchao14
    @superfatchao14 3 роки тому

    Who is Marvel's?

    • @ERASEREPLACEPLACE
      @ERASEREPLACEPLACE 3 роки тому +2

      black reality warper? I can't remember his name, but he was a little kid mutant who fought the fantastic four. Think he's dead now, but i remember that he was going to be a member of the New Mutants, but the writers claimed that he was too powerful and that he had the ability to create a more powerful team of his own out of nothing. With that kind of power, how could he fit on a team? I do remember that he appeared in the fantastic four, and not an X-men/Mutant comic. Think that was back in the late 70's, believe it or not.

    • @1KlockWork
      @1KlockWork 3 роки тому +2

      @@ERASEREPLACEPLACE Willie Evans Jr. I had both his original appearance and his X-Factor issue a while ago. It was a real waste of character, how they killed him off. Very few reality warpers are left alone as is, but it still would've been nice to have one black mainstay. He could've been close friends with Franklin Richards.

    • @ERASEREPLACEPLACE
      @ERASEREPLACEPLACE 3 роки тому

      @@1KlockWork You're absolutely right. Bet he comes back somehow tho... eventually. With what's going on with the X-men on Krakoa, they could bring him back right now. And he'd be a helluva game-changer.

  • @markknox1194
    @markknox1194 3 роки тому

    obviously his costume was not very challenging. the fact that he has endured al this time speaks volumes of his character. the idea was to never have a black hero in dc be as powerful or more then superman and green lantern hal jordan. tyroc is another token in dc still under the auspices of white racist comic book governing.

  • @DjSanchezE355AMG
    @DjSanchezE355AMG 3 роки тому

    His outfit was gay

  • @theonlykog
    @theonlykog 3 роки тому +1

    Horrible outfit.

    • @fate254
      @fate254 3 роки тому

      more like amazing outfit.

  • @SADtv_
    @SADtv_ 3 роки тому

    Don’t even say African American no more. Say American Indians.
    They hate that just like they hate putting blacks in comics