Good story. But the thing that bothered me is human aren’t unique it was the technology. Yes people knew that they were invisible so why didn’t they develop the stuff to detect invisibility? I agree with another commentor that it should be just basic human instinct that guided us. Good story btw.
@@wardraven8755 Also dedicated efforts to detect them would probably be very rapidly learned about by them and sabotaged by them without ever being detected and not needing to fully infiltrate a new race too heavily to accomplish such observations and sabotage especially with their dismissiveness of humans.
Unless they are also intangible, silent, and odorless, the whole idea is ludicrous. The classic tricks - foggers, dust and light beams, silly string would reveal them. Don't see how it would be possible to avoid creating infra-red anomalies or making a sound.
Two things overshadow the story. First the Vesperer would've attacked earth. Second you shy away from saying "in this battle many Vesperer died". Makes me believe there were 0 casualties.
This subject would have been so much better without all of the tech made us better stuff. I could see this being something as simple as humans noticing the change in the air flow in a room or even learning to leave some powder on the floor. To me humans become cyborgs and rule is not that much of a fun story. Where is the struggle to beat the unstoppable force if you are simply the more unstoppable force. I have not gotten much into this so maybe it will get better but, I am out.
@@grogvaughan5649 Yeah, definitely missed the point. Good call. I love HFY stories, we know we're crap, but we can dream, yes. Iain Banks once said that he didn't think that our branch of the human race would ever survive long enough to join the Culture, but we can dream.
I think I preferred the "humans see camouflaged aliens" story where humans can spot the colors several aliens unknowingly use in their camo colorations because they can't see in that specific frequency of light. Sounds better than "hoomans gots cyborg vision ".
@@turbopokey yep. This would be cool. Maybe the aliens came from a binary star system where their eyes evolved to be less sensitive dure to the brighter conditions. But human eyes are more sensitive in the visible light spectrum so we can see the invisible enemies.
Certain wordings should be banned from thrse stories, like "once ... now", which this story repeated to the point where I had to stop 6 minutes shy of the end, because I can't afford to throw my phone at the wall...
Humans aren't super smart or tough. It's our tenacity and our persistence in doing the right thing, even if it doesn't benefit us directly, or even in the long run. That, or our simple bilogy being too simple to be fooled.
You have a childcare voice, not a hfy voice. If it works for you, it works for you, but you speak too softly to really sell interplanetary anything. Your voice just isn't commanding enough for the full effect.
This is more a synopsis than a story. The AI/cyborg nature of this rather ruins the story. The "technology is good" attitude of this story is annoying. Technology cannot always progress. "Their" tone? Pick a sex for him/her. Sheesh!
Technology cannot always progress... while you're typing on a device that is a result of extreme progress where around a hundred years earlier there were similar devices the size of an entire warehouse yet with a fraction of the power and function. You're literally talking about a type of technology that is designed to help enhance itself. A device that makes it easier to make itself better would make our current level of progress, where we literally went to the moon and have started to consider colonizing other planets, like a slug trying to race an eagle. What do you mean by "their tone? pick a sex for him/her?" You do know that they/them/their/they're can be used for individuals that you don't know much about, right? Used in this fashion, specifically for story telling, the individual in question can remain unimportant. It's a device used when the story itself is what is important and not the people in it. Furthermore it seems the majority of the they/them/their/they're are used to describe a group of people. In which case, there would be no single sex such as him or her. Even as a group of a single sex, you call them them instead of him or them them instead of her. Although true hermaprodites in humans, with both sets of working reproductive organs, are extremely rare I would assume that a group of human hermaphrodites would also be called them. Though I don't even know if humans have invented a specific term like him or her to apply specifically for hermaphrodites due to how rare a true hermaphrodite is compared to the two dominate sexes. So maybe there is a different term and I'm just not aware of it.
@FanfictionEnjoyer The fact that we have not had a societal collapse in over a thousand years is quite remarkable. Thus, only obsolescence has claimed technology, and ignorance has not. Now, we are very close to the Heisenberg Threshold. That these stories always seem to use the plural for the singular is highly annoying. The constant they without a he/she or even an it... it becomes irritating, and it is an affront to grammar. With a small number of exceptions, they/them/their is used in the singular only when it is unclear whether it is singular or not.
@@Svensk7119 The dark ages, a major societal collapse, lasted from around 500 to 1500; only 500 years before now. Many nations have had repeated societal collapses; such as the chinese who have had many societal collapses due to singlehandedly killed more humans than almost any other civilization throughout their history... with most of their victims being chinese caught in the battles between chinese warlords over the 12,000 years of written history and 20,000 years of verbal history they have recorded. In fact, the sheer number of societal collapses over the past few thousand years is simply staggering. Many societies like the ancient egyptians, who had to use archealogy every few thousand years for the past few thousand years, or the sumerians before them are prime examples of societal collapses. An affront to grammar that perfectly follows the rules of using grammar to describe an unknown individual without any kind of description? I'm confused to say the least. But also curious about your reasoning that something perfectly following the rules of grammar as dictated for the specific usage it was being used for is somehow an affront to grammar. I can't help but wonder what you would consider a proper use of grammar for describing a hooded person of average height and build walking down a dimly lit street. Male? Female? Both pronouns are completely useless as you don't know anything about them. So why would you describe them as he or her?
Human; Oops! Say buddy, what the hell are you doing?
Vesped: Aaaaaaahh, nothing?
Human: Well put some clothes on, youre making me cold!
Good story. But the thing that bothered me is human aren’t unique it was the technology. Yes people knew that they were invisible so why didn’t they develop the stuff to detect invisibility? I agree with another commentor that it should be just basic human instinct that guided us. Good story btw.
The other alien species did not know they was there till the humans told them.
@@wardraven8755 Also dedicated efforts to detect them would probably be very rapidly learned about by them and sabotaged by them without ever being detected and not needing to fully infiltrate a new race too heavily to accomplish such observations and sabotage especially with their dismissiveness of humans.
It should be our automatic doors. They were opening and closing for "no reason", someone looked into it and the door sensors were picking them up.
@@Awol991nah it was the heavy regular doors that would need a fairly strong gust to move
Unless they are also intangible, silent, and odorless, the whole idea is ludicrous. The classic tricks - foggers, dust and light beams, silly string would reveal them. Don't see how it would be possible to avoid creating infra-red anomalies or making a sound.
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Maybe there should have been a law against augmentation in the council before humanity arrived already augmentated.
Two things overshadow the story. First the Vesperer would've attacked earth. Second you shy away from saying "in this battle many Vesperer died". Makes me believe there were 0 casualties.
Ugh, i really hate having a storyline just being explained to the audience. Suspect AI writing. No characters to speak of. Bleah.😖
Specially when it repeats the same phrases over and over or makes plotlines from thin air
This subject would have been so much better without all of the tech made us better stuff. I could see this being something as simple as humans noticing the change in the air flow in a room or even learning to leave some powder on the floor. To me humans become cyborgs and rule is not that much of a fun story. Where is the struggle to beat the unstoppable force if you are simply the more unstoppable force. I have not gotten much into this so maybe it will get better but, I am out.
Then it wouldn't be HFY
@@grogvaughan5649 Yeah, definitely missed the point. Good call. I love HFY stories, we know we're crap, but we can dream, yes. Iain Banks once said that he didn't think that our branch of the human race would ever survive long enough to join the Culture, but we can dream.
I think I preferred the "humans see camouflaged aliens" story where humans can spot the colors several aliens unknowingly use in their camo colorations because they can't see in that specific frequency of light. Sounds better than "hoomans gots cyborg vision ".
@@turbopokey I remember that story.
@@turbopokey yep. This would be cool. Maybe the aliens came from a binary star system where their eyes evolved to be less sensitive dure to the brighter conditions. But human eyes are more sensitive in the visible light spectrum so we can see the invisible enemies.
Certain wordings should be banned from thrse stories, like "once ... now", which this story repeated to the point where I had to stop 6 minutes shy of the end, because I can't afford to throw my phone at the wall...
so first they don't know aboutt the vespra but then they do? sounds silly.
Humans aren't super smart or tough. It's our tenacity and our persistence in doing the right thing, even if it doesn't benefit us directly, or even in the long run.
That, or our simple bilogy being too simple to be fooled.
Can somebody make an AI with a southern drawl please? This was so fast it was tryiin to listen to a foreign language you barely understand.
You have a childcare voice, not a hfy voice. If it works for you, it works for you, but you speak too softly to really sell interplanetary anything. Your voice just isn't commanding enough for the full effect.
This is more a synopsis than a story. The AI/cyborg nature of this rather ruins the story.
The "technology is good" attitude of this story is annoying. Technology cannot always progress.
"Their" tone? Pick a sex for him/her. Sheesh!
Technology cannot always progress... while you're typing on a device that is a result of extreme progress where around a hundred years earlier there were similar devices the size of an entire warehouse yet with a fraction of the power and function. You're literally talking about a type of technology that is designed to help enhance itself. A device that makes it easier to make itself better would make our current level of progress, where we literally went to the moon and have started to consider colonizing other planets, like a slug trying to race an eagle.
What do you mean by "their tone? pick a sex for him/her?" You do know that they/them/their/they're can be used for individuals that you don't know much about, right? Used in this fashion, specifically for story telling, the individual in question can remain unimportant. It's a device used when the story itself is what is important and not the people in it. Furthermore it seems the majority of the they/them/their/they're are used to describe a group of people. In which case, there would be no single sex such as him or her. Even as a group of a single sex, you call them them instead of him or them them instead of her. Although true hermaprodites in humans, with both sets of working reproductive organs, are extremely rare I would assume that a group of human hermaphrodites would also be called them. Though I don't even know if humans have invented a specific term like him or her to apply specifically for hermaphrodites due to how rare a true hermaphrodite is compared to the two dominate sexes. So maybe there is a different term and I'm just not aware of it.
@FanfictionEnjoyer The fact that we have not had a societal collapse in over a thousand years is quite remarkable. Thus, only obsolescence has claimed technology, and ignorance has not. Now, we are very close to the Heisenberg Threshold.
That these stories always seem to use the plural for the singular is highly annoying. The constant they without a he/she or even an it... it becomes irritating, and it is an affront to grammar.
With a small number of exceptions, they/them/their is used in the singular only when it is unclear whether it is singular or not.
@@Svensk7119 The dark ages, a major societal collapse, lasted from around 500 to 1500; only 500 years before now. Many nations have had repeated societal collapses; such as the chinese who have had many societal collapses due to singlehandedly killed more humans than almost any other civilization throughout their history... with most of their victims being chinese caught in the battles between chinese warlords over the 12,000 years of written history and 20,000 years of verbal history they have recorded. In fact, the sheer number of societal collapses over the past few thousand years is simply staggering. Many societies like the ancient egyptians, who had to use archealogy every few thousand years for the past few thousand years, or the sumerians before them are prime examples of societal collapses.
An affront to grammar that perfectly follows the rules of using grammar to describe an unknown individual without any kind of description? I'm confused to say the least. But also curious about your reasoning that something perfectly following the rules of grammar as dictated for the specific usage it was being used for is somehow an affront to grammar.
I can't help but wonder what you would consider a proper use of grammar for describing a hooded person of average height and build walking down a dimly lit street. Male? Female? Both pronouns are completely useless as you don't know anything about them. So why would you describe them as he or her?