The Down-Tuning Experiment

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  • Опубліковано 26 жов 2014
  • Does tuning lower make things heavier?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 5 тис.

  • @sonofbelz
    @sonofbelz 4 роки тому +1597

    It's not heavy unless the strings are literally moving like spaghetti.

    • @jaedynbagley171
      @jaedynbagley171 3 роки тому +60

      Down tune your guitar to the point where it can shoot arrows

    • @Bilbo_Swaggins0528
      @Bilbo_Swaggins0528 3 роки тому +16

      And it isnt djent untill the string are literally made of spaghetti

    • @skyrnir
      @skyrnir 3 роки тому +6

      It's not heavy until the strings reach the floor

    • @itspie_playz5723
      @itspie_playz5723 3 роки тому

      S p a g h e t t

    • @dylananderson1061
      @dylananderson1061 3 роки тому +2

      I tuned my 6 string down to drop e with normal strings. I have no regrets

  • @Kylorfo113
    @Kylorfo113 9 років тому +3469

    Didn't down tune the drums 0/10

    • @BenMichalowicz
      @BenMichalowicz 9 років тому +14

      Thank you!

    • @muslimninjaassassin2498
      @muslimninjaassassin2498 9 років тому +18

      Wouldn't that break the drum heads?

    • @BenMichalowicz
      @BenMichalowicz 9 років тому +50

      MuslimNinjaAssassin Nah. Downtuning means loosening the heads. With enough force (but a lot of it), the head would break. But tightening the drum head would have a higher chance, so I think.

    • @muslimninjaassassin2498
      @muslimninjaassassin2498 9 років тому +3

      Ben M
      From my time in marthning band we done it a lot every 3 shows I think?

    • @BenMichalowicz
      @BenMichalowicz 9 років тому +2

      MuslimNinjaAssassin It's happened occasionally with my school's drumline as well, but it's rare, since we don't tune heads that often.

  • @Reesecollins
    @Reesecollins 6 років тому +1625

    Someone: What do you tune to?
    Me: F standard.
    Someone: You tune up?
    Me: Nope >:)

    • @jkrsun9218
      @jkrsun9218 4 роки тому +44

      TheOddGamer
      Someone in 2019: What do you tune to?
      Me: F Standard.
      2019 n*ggas: You tune down? heavy bro
      Me: Lmao naah

    • @nooralamgir3703
      @nooralamgir3703 4 роки тому +13

      I literally tune up to A standard and use a capo

    • @horstherbert35
      @horstherbert35 4 роки тому +7

      Just buy a shortscale guitar at that point m8
      No shame in that

    • @nehemiahzo_
      @nehemiahzo_ 4 роки тому +3

      Tuning down to f standard is awesome

    • @glowco.717
      @glowco.717 3 роки тому +13

      Y'all making jokes about F standard when Rob literally has a song in double drop B

  • @rogazy1
    @rogazy1 4 роки тому +1585

    Guitarrists: I hate bass guitar
    Also guitarrists: Drop E

    • @RikaFurude6969
      @RikaFurude6969 4 роки тому +35

      Stolen like 300th time

    • @rogazy1
      @rogazy1 3 роки тому +4

      @@RikaFurude6969 oui

    • @hades429
      @hades429 3 роки тому +1

      Sadly I cannot like

    • @shlak
      @shlak 3 роки тому +5

      Drop E would be a whole step higher on the rest of the strings than bass tuning, E1 standard is bass tuning

    • @tuckerhilbers460
      @tuckerhilbers460 3 роки тому +12

      @@shlak 8 string guitars E Standard is basically a bass because of the E1 A1 D2 G2 C3 F3 A3 D4 and Drop E1 was what he was referring to as in E1 B1 E A D G B E.
      Unless i completely misunderstood you

  • @joekelly7108
    @joekelly7108 7 років тому +4864

    "How to turn your strat into a six string bass"

  • @SpectacularName
    @SpectacularName 8 років тому +3425

    Drop Q: the closest you'll get to playing on actual spaghetti.

    • @charliegyngell6755
      @charliegyngell6755 8 років тому +39

      Drop Xflat *gets spaghetti* well looks like im using this 😂

    • @tfos993
      @tfos993 8 років тому +109

      I prefer drop π in a shoe lace but that's just me. The tone just feels great.

    • @carlscreativechannel6409
      @carlscreativechannel6409 8 років тому +2

      +SpectacularName Epic comment! :D

    • @stokesa3122
      @stokesa3122 8 років тому +8

      +SpectacularName
      I want to see that now. Actual spaghetti guitar strings. Make it possible, Rob!

    • @CVXMAN
      @CVXMAN 8 років тому +8

      I've actually heard of someone who put their bass strings in a pot of water and boiled them…

  • @user-gj3di9wh1d
    @user-gj3di9wh1d 4 роки тому +274

    2014: low tuning
    2015: 14 fret capo metal

  • @harryxiro
    @harryxiro 3 роки тому +181

    0:32 A swarm of flies
    1:34 A swarm of bees
    2:10 A swarm of wasps
    3:10 A swarm of prehistoric dragonflies
    3:50 Dad with the belt

    • @13_cmi
      @13_cmi 3 роки тому +3

      😂

  • @smollbb
    @smollbb 7 років тому +4512

    So i guess Drop Q is how non metalhead people hear metal?

  • @zacgehrman8260
    @zacgehrman8260 7 років тому +762

    The "Q" stands for questionable choices.

  • @IDKIDK-ik4yt
    @IDKIDK-ik4yt 6 років тому +1958

    F# is literally the tuning for an 8 string

    • @zetsu12344
      @zetsu12344 4 роки тому +28

      Yeah standard tuning for 8 strong ... though Meshuggah goes EADGBEAD so it is kinda 1 step lower with a minor twick where is interval of 2 steps instead of 2.5 step

    • @tom_dilley
      @tom_dilley 4 роки тому +42

      @@zetsu12344Meshuggah only tune down a half step. (F, B♭, E♭, A♭, D♭,G♭, B♭, E♭).

    • @kyranlior1476
      @kyranlior1476 4 роки тому +19

      Yes, or a 6-string in Architects :)

    • @danielmontgomery8353
      @danielmontgomery8353 4 роки тому +1

      666th like.

    • @tfwnoyandere
      @tfwnoyandere 4 роки тому +2

      i play g flat on a six

  • @user-ww3js8ci7d
    @user-ww3js8ci7d 5 років тому +504

    Me: Hey Rob, what tuning do you use in that song?
    Rob: D R O P Q

  • @sophieward7225
    @sophieward7225 7 років тому +2006

    It's like following Dante through the layers of Hell

    • @joshuarajendran5839
      @joshuarajendran5839 7 років тому +41

      I can't believe I actually got the reference😏

    • @nezia9875
      @nezia9875 7 років тому +9

      Me too lol

    • @ShadowSloth3
      @ShadowSloth3 7 років тому +4

      Couldn't have put it better myself.

    • @yrvindell1499
      @yrvindell1499 7 років тому +9

      Great reference! I cant believe someone put it here

    • @PureHayabusa
      @PureHayabusa 7 років тому +23

      Very well said. I'd tip my fedora if i was gay

  • @alexwales8914
    @alexwales8914 7 років тому +2411

    That's not heavy enough I tune my guitar to flat, no note, just flat

    • @c-dawgeyee9931
      @c-dawgeyee9931 6 років тому +71

      Alex Wales pfft I prefer drop 786366575849393947784995894938949488394883939 9489593884949394883949838397583993848389393839387655444525336890743887642Zzzz triple flat

    • @c-dawgeyee9931
      @c-dawgeyee9931 6 років тому

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    • @theyeetmeister4019
      @theyeetmeister4019 5 років тому +5

      Show me the ways

    • @yexas7029
      @yexas7029 5 років тому +62

      @@c-dawgeyee9931 I perfer drop ₱¡‽√♠•♦√Ω§¶∆↓°∞ tuned ⅞ of an octave

    • @blakemccraven3627
      @blakemccraven3627 5 років тому +1

      Jesus

  • @Ch4pp13
    @Ch4pp13 5 років тому +527

    in a pursuit for the heavy, Rob Scallon ripped out his intestines and started playing them.

    • @m6nday
      @m6nday 4 роки тому +38

      Chappie now that’s fucking metal

    • @talloccasion1562
      @talloccasion1562 4 роки тому +14

      that would make one hell of a comic strip.

    • @Holagrimola
      @Holagrimola 3 роки тому +3

      Are you saying he's fat?

    • @alexis.0569
      @alexis.0569 3 роки тому

      Back to the original roots..
      or how black metal is, of course

    • @ITTAPUPU12
      @ITTAPUPU12 3 роки тому +1

      @@Holagrimola how the fuck is that a way of saying he’s fat? Do you always assume things like this? Do you seriously have no other reason in life other than to be super offended by things you arent even being told? Sad

  • @rstango
    @rstango 4 роки тому +198

    Plot twist: it’s all in standard E and it’s just a plecibo

  • @DrakosLord
    @DrakosLord 8 років тому +194

    If you are one of those who thinks that lower tunings are "heavier", I'll say this: Paramore guitarist uses drop C# tuning. Just for you all to consider it.

    • @roddorfj
      @roddorfj 8 років тому +14

      +DrakosLord Sum 41 uses drop C# on some songs on their album Chuck, namely "Angels With Dirty Faces", "I'm Not the One" and "Moron". They're good songs, I'm practicing "Angels With Dirty Faces" on bass. But drop C# really isn't that much lower than standard, it's just drop D and a half step down.

    • @DrakosLord
      @DrakosLord 8 років тому +9

      Roddor FJ Exactly! And yeah, I know. Point is that is not the tuning, but the way you play.

    • @roddorfj
      @roddorfj 8 років тому +5

      DrakosLord It's worth noting also that those are Sum 41's heaviest songs.

    • @placeholder6517
      @placeholder6517 8 років тому +6

      It's also worth noting that drop C# is one semi-tone lower thand Drop D. Which, ummmmm, isn't exactly pushing it in terms of down-tuning.

    • @roddorfj
      @roddorfj 8 років тому

      Rafael Irias Ochoa This. It's a half step lower than Foo Fighters.

  • @SaintSentry
    @SaintSentry 7 років тому +685

    The lowest I've ever tuned would probably be Drop ∆, though I've thought about tuning downward to Drop =_=.

    • @mfnd502
      @mfnd502 7 років тому +9

      Drop Delta. so heavy.

    • @UditDey
      @UditDey 7 років тому +1

      So its heavey as shit

    • @josephgarland-collins1779
      @josephgarland-collins1779 6 років тому +4

      SaintSentry drop 🅱️

    • @TrainsNStuff
      @TrainsNStuff 6 років тому +2

      nah, drop 189 is where it's at. 10000000000 octaves lower than drop 🅱️, and you thought THAT was low, it's about 100 octaves lower than Drop =_= and 254 octaves lower than drop ∆. Also, can someone show me how to italic a UA-cam comment?

    • @jaedenrose6387
      @jaedenrose6387 5 років тому +2

      That's pretty heavy but have you ever played in drop þ§æłįøę

  • @polarisrust
    @polarisrust 5 років тому +305

    When the high E string starts to have wrapping around it you know that you’ve gone too far.

    • @gatt0203
      @gatt0203 3 роки тому +6

      @Riccardo Milliava what? the low e is always wound. he's saying that once you need a high e string that's wound, you know you've gone too far.

    • @gatt0203
      @gatt0203 3 роки тому +1

      @Riccardo Milliava sorry if my comment came off as rude lol

  • @D-Man_Jam
    @D-Man_Jam 3 роки тому +256

    _"If you can't be heavy in standard, you're not heavy."_
    -somebody of significance

  • @robscallon
    @robscallon  9 років тому +3299

    Well, that got REALLY out of hand...

  • @thomasduncan7759
    @thomasduncan7759 7 років тому +2289

    This turned into a Jared Dines video

  • @theblindguitarist5897
    @theblindguitarist5897 6 років тому +52

    3:46 when your high e can replace your low a

  • @logancamp8399
    @logancamp8399 5 років тому +79

    Personally, I think that every riff has a tuning that it sounds best in, which usually ends up being the original tuning it was written in. To me this riff sounded best in Eb/D#, but some people will disagree, and at the end of the day everything we do is subjective and there's no real "right" answer.

    • @GamingInfested
      @GamingInfested 3 роки тому +6

      real right answer is when you play finished song and it sounds FUCKING awesome

  • @rljeric
    @rljeric 7 років тому +930

    This video proves that heaviness comes from the riff more than the tuning. To me this riff just wasn't heavy, so no amount of tuning lower will make it heavy.

    • @venrakdrake
      @venrakdrake 7 років тому +61

      Honestly i think it sounded heaviest/best in standard E

    • @matheusscher832
      @matheusscher832 6 років тому

      venrakdrake
      agreed

    • @RangoTangento
      @RangoTangento 6 років тому +9

      Yes, I believe it has to do with the tone of your guitar.

    • @Leo28039
      @Leo28039 6 років тому +8

      I think the drums have more to do with the heaviness than the tune itself

    • @sataniccyanide6976
      @sataniccyanide6976 6 років тому +2

      RelativelyLargeJohn Tbh the riff sounded like smthn youd hear in a death song.

  • @SpectreSoundStudios
    @SpectreSoundStudios 9 років тому +1229

    Well done! Crazy riff, great bass playing! FWIW, I thought it was great around the "C" region, after that, it definitely became a "diminishing returns" thing.

    • @JeffBarberDigideus
      @JeffBarberDigideus 9 років тому +39

      *****
      no... A... unless you are meshuggah, in which case go as low as you like
      Actually, id like to see meshuggah play Bleed in E tuning and compare that

    • @ILikeToColourRed
      @ILikeToColourRed 9 років тому +20

      i think that might have been a loss of clarity more than anything

    • @TomHolloway123
      @TomHolloway123 9 років тому +20

      I liked it most in D# or D

    • @themaggot8
      @themaggot8 9 років тому +21

      I think that it depends on how you play it, especially the palm mutes and the way you attack the strings. The band Sylosis sounds really really heavy and they play on E standard.

    • @paulolson9696
      @paulolson9696 9 років тому +22

      Juan José Fonseca Godoy Sylosis makes it sound like fucking B standard. It's the combination of adding the fifth below the root while palm muting the fuck out of it and the bass hitting the root. Much respect to them for playing like that.

  • @narglarph9820
    @narglarph9820 4 роки тому +133

    i play drop [REDACTED] and this is the least heavy stuff i have heard.

  • @benjaminbarbosa5261
    @benjaminbarbosa5261 3 роки тому +37

    If you like to make the comparison between one tuning and the other:
    0:14 - E
    0:32 - D#
    0:51 - D
    1:11 - C#
    1:34 - C
    1:52 - B
    2:09 - A#
    2:33 - A
    2:51 - G#
    3:10 - G
    3:28 - F#
    3:49 - ?¿

    • @klavier0875
      @klavier0875 4 місяці тому

      The last one maybe is Drop E

  • @matiasandres2319
    @matiasandres2319 7 років тому +547

    WTF THE DROP Q

    • @azrael8924
      @azrael8924 7 років тому +52

      Q Q Q Q Q Q for the 6 string version

    • @dillonsmith5386
      @dillonsmith5386 7 років тому +9

      Solaire No, it has to be Qb, Qb, Qb, Qb. Qb, and Qb for the 6-string version..

    • @azrael8924
      @azrael8924 7 років тому +23

      Dillon Smith Rb Rb Rb Rb for bass

    • @dillonsmith5386
      @dillonsmith5386 7 років тому

      Yasss

    • @THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS
      @THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS 6 років тому

      Djoes this Djent? Watch my vid Djenting a vintage BASS VI double drop D, maybe it's what you need?

  • @faselblaDer3te
    @faselblaDer3te 8 років тому +803

    I prefer tuning my 20 strings octo-sub-guitar to AT LEAST ü.
    ü flat is better.

  • @spencersolomon709
    @spencersolomon709 5 років тому +312

    I perfer to tune my guitar to drop off a cliff

  • @awonderingoneil206
    @awonderingoneil206 5 років тому +174

    *E standard?* What is this witchcraft?
    Drop Z# is standard tuning surely.

    • @nigel7779
      @nigel7779 4 роки тому +3

      A wondering O'Neil loser I only tune to Zb on the highest string

    • @amethyst_nightlife
      @amethyst_nightlife 2 роки тому

      Oh, I thought it was drop 9b

  • @Onionbagel
    @Onionbagel 8 років тому +219

    After a certain level of down-tuning it just starts sounding like bass.

    • @sirhuebertcumberdale5959
      @sirhuebertcumberdale5959 8 років тому +67

      Or death

    • @david55509
      @david55509 8 років тому +2

      +Sir Huebert Cumberdale death bass

    • @MTThought
      @MTThought 8 років тому +2

      +Sir Huebert Cumberdale or soot and poo.

    • @martinr7728
      @martinr7728 8 років тому +4

      +Zoink foo i must disagree

    • @sadberto7430
      @sadberto7430 8 років тому

      +Zoink foo Sorry I know this hasn't anything to do with what you wrote but when i change tuning do i have to re-set up the truss rod?

  • @megamountainman5230
    @megamountainman5230 8 років тому +590

    I have one question about the Golden Gate Bridge. Does it djent?

  • @cherresoda
    @cherresoda 4 роки тому +20

    3:45 and this is where the G string becomes a lamp post

  • @justfred1121
    @justfred1121 4 роки тому +126

    Drop Q is just Technical Grindcore.

  • @tristanmahler4471
    @tristanmahler4471 9 років тому +261

    Drop Q is the tuning Dillinger Escape Plan plays in.

    • @tristanmahler4471
      @tristanmahler4471 9 років тому +87

      It sounds like shit, is what I'm saying.

    • @monsterfukk7737
      @monsterfukk7737 9 років тому +48

      Tristan Mahler So basically you're so obsessed with DEP that you bring them up when literally no one was talking about them.

    • @tristanmahler4471
      @tristanmahler4471 9 років тому +10

      Monster Fukk If that'll let you sleep at night, sure.

    • @tristanmahler4471
      @tristanmahler4471 9 років тому +3

      ***** They all have talent but it's not pulled together in any coherent way. I love math metal, but it still has to sound like music for me to enjoy it.

    • @scottmckinstry1698
      @scottmckinstry1698 9 років тому

      Tristan Mahler Absolutely. My brother is obsessed with The DEP. Its playing all the time at our apartment. That's when I go to my room and crank the amp. Gotta drown that audible piss!

  • @RexBarca
    @RexBarca 7 років тому +896

    I prefer drop Z tuning myself

    • @pranavdhokre8980
      @pranavdhokre8980 7 років тому +35

      i go drop z# always

    • @user-qn8rg3sv6j
      @user-qn8rg3sv6j 7 років тому +22

      +Pranav Dhokre i always tune in to drop DJENT

    • @willukyagronk
      @willukyagronk 7 років тому +12

      nah gotta be quad drop z for tr00 djent

    • @pranavdhokre8980
      @pranavdhokre8980 7 років тому +4

      CYBORG POTATO drop it 5 times to make it djent tr00er

    • @SheppardOfFire
      @SheppardOfFire 7 років тому +19

      I always go for Drop 0 flat myself

  • @GreifvogelSGE
    @GreifvogelSGE 4 роки тому +84

    I like D to C the most, everything is still intelligable and the bass hits hard. B is fine too. Anything beyond that is just unnecessary in terms of string cost etc

    • @BeefGeneral
      @BeefGeneral 4 роки тому +2

      Greifvogel agreed. C# has always been my favourite

    • @GreifvogelSGE
      @GreifvogelSGE 4 роки тому +1

      @@BeefGeneral I think Bolt Thrower plays in C# right? Sounds so good

    • @movimentodoscacos
      @movimentodoscacos 4 роки тому +1

      C and C# forever. But some bands do manage to go lower than that and be listenable. Mainly when playing slow genres. Doom and Sludge metal for example can sound amazing.

    • @GreifvogelSGE
      @GreifvogelSGE 4 роки тому

      @@movimentodoscacos I've been playing in Drop A on my new 6-String for 2 months now and I was surprised to see that I can actually play pretty clean using the new EB Mammoth Slinky

    • @tfwnoyandere
      @tfwnoyandere 4 роки тому

      g flat is best

  • @audreyn1996
    @audreyn1996 4 роки тому +15

    At Drop Q, Junji Ito’s Kuruzou took over the headstock

  • @holiday1149
    @holiday1149 7 років тому +803

    Psh. Drop Q. Rob, is that the heaviest you can go? It should be more like Drop ß.

    • @maxmelo329
      @maxmelo329 7 років тому +73

      Naw man drop ًميجصةءء•٢٥٥ is the heaviest

    • @sleightofhand1599
      @sleightofhand1599 7 років тому +18

      +The Brainiac no... Drop💩 is the heaviest

    • @druid5931
      @druid5931 7 років тому +95

      +Sleight of Hand you ruined it

    • @nikospagonas
      @nikospagonas 7 років тому +28

      +Sleight of Hand you fucked it big time

    • @AlexH4774
      @AlexH4774 7 років тому +35

      Nah man, drop Ъ is where it's at! You can't even pronounce it!

  • @ulasgursoy2838
    @ulasgursoy2838 7 років тому +275

    plebs... I play on quadruple drop µ. Nothing on this earth can create the sound and even if it could no living being could hear it.

    • @MyNameIsNidos
      @MyNameIsNidos 4 роки тому +14

      That’s it? I once tuned down to drop Д̸̞̰̣͈͈̪̌̔́̽̀̓͋͜ and threw up from how heavy it was

    • @idk4529
      @idk4529 4 роки тому

      Drop №‽¡₱Ωπ§∆✓ sharp is what I use, peasants.

    • @nemvallalomanevem7798
      @nemvallalomanevem7798 4 роки тому

      No doubt

    • @magicsteve5523
      @magicsteve5523 4 роки тому

      I play a 95 000 000 piece drum kit with the reso skins tuned to exactly § flat major on every second peg and § sharp minor on every other peg.

    • @jensdebondt4753
      @jensdebondt4753 4 роки тому +2

      I play bridge cables

  • @mastertrey4683
    @mastertrey4683 4 роки тому +11

    And thats what it sounds like when a guitar player plays bass

  • @tom-vx6bu
    @tom-vx6bu 4 роки тому +7

    this riff has haunted me since i first heard it

  • @codylujan
    @codylujan 9 років тому +48

    If your band isn't playing in Drop Q, sign to a pop label.

  • @RobertHeadley
    @RobertHeadley 9 років тому +100

    Down tuning to the extreme seems to mud up the notes. Definitely heavy, you can feel the riff, just not hear it as much.

    • @Ghost17110
      @Ghost17110 9 років тому +22

      I personally just believe that this mix/playing is not tight at all.
      There are so many bands tuning down to Drop C, Drop A, Drop F, etc... that have such a clear and open tone with great clarity.
      This video, however, is the opposite. I even found it hard to listen to in standard.

    • @Tzalmavet
      @Tzalmavet 9 років тому +5

      Mason Stanley It also depends on the guitar as well. Having good pickups and an extended scale length helps the clarity of the lower notes. The types of wood that the guitar is made out of should also be taken into account.

    • @RingAnimated
      @RingAnimated 9 років тому +2

      I can agree there. I originally wanted to go with GDADGBE and instead ended up doing ADADGBE because of too much muddiness. Also still get some muddiness with the ADADGBE but that might just be because of the small 15W amp I use and/or my FX unit itself. lol

    • @shomest2239
      @shomest2239 9 років тому +2

      Robert Headley that is partly due to the guitar itsself. Single coil and active pickups don't come through clearly through distortion on the really low frequencies, and usually the pickups are designed to handle extremely low notes come on extended range guitars. His equipment just isn't meant to handle anything really past C#

    • @shomest2239
      @shomest2239 9 років тому +2

      Robert Headley that is partly due to the guitar itsself. Single coil and active pickups don't come through clearly through distortion on the really low frequencies, and usually the pickups are designed to handle extremely low notes come on extended range guitars. His equipment just isn't meant to handle anything really past C#

  • @beanman2206
    @beanman2206 4 роки тому +6

    There is something about D and B standard that I REALLY love...
    I don’t know what it is

  • @alieffauzanrizky7202
    @alieffauzanrizky7202 5 років тому +18

    I once tune my guitar 100 step up, now my guitar weight 0.00000001kg

  • @myhorrorfestevil8292
    @myhorrorfestevil8292 7 років тому +251

    I like how you only use the top 3 strings but still changes the other 3

    • @DarkPeter
      @DarkPeter 4 роки тому +1

      Omg

    • @susie8577
      @susie8577 4 роки тому +47

      Yes, because tuning one string effects the tension of all 6, so you have to.

    • @Holtender102
      @Holtender102 4 роки тому +2

      He actually uses 5. Look at the fucked up chord at the end of the song

    • @Holtender102
      @Holtender102 4 роки тому

      Or 4

    • @Immariolopez
      @Immariolopez 4 роки тому

      My Horror FestEvil found he beginner guitarist

  • @DenSvartaStjarnan
    @DenSvartaStjarnan 8 років тому +174

    That fucking Yousician ad is so damn loud...

    • @xanatgarcia9241
      @xanatgarcia9241 8 років тому

      Ikr

    • @5carecrow94
      @5carecrow94 8 років тому +50

      YOUSICIAN IS DA BEST WAY TO LERN PRAKTIS AND MASTUR DA GITAR. Jeez, that's such a crock.

    • @PanasonicTooth
      @PanasonicTooth 8 років тому

      You

    • @almondtart
      @almondtart 8 років тому

      lmao it's intro when you open it is so fucking loud i stg

    • @DavidJohanssonSN
      @DavidJohanssonSN 8 років тому +3

      Yousician is trash anyway.

  • @rayrayisgod
    @rayrayisgod 5 років тому +21

    It doesn't make it heavier but it definitely effects the overall mood of the song

  • @Fenrir1398
    @Fenrir1398 4 роки тому +7

    0:37 was that a SKYPE notification?? I had to replay that like five times because I thought it was my phone

  • @connorsmith75
    @connorsmith75 7 років тому +221

    Wouldn't drop Q actually be really high?

    • @rameynoodles152
      @rameynoodles152 7 років тому +159

      It's so low, that it dropped off the front of the alphabet and looped around to Z, then kept falling till it got to Q.

    • @tormenttor2733
      @tormenttor2733 7 років тому +43

      Sean Ramey twice

    • @fatuousmusic2822
      @fatuousmusic2822 6 років тому +19

      Cooner Smaff *Top 10 Questions Science Can't Answer*

    • @JayFFAFAlesanaES
      @JayFFAFAlesanaES 4 роки тому +2

      Depends on the octave.

  • @themightymcb7310
    @themightymcb7310 8 років тому +135

    For everybody claiming that downtuning really makes you "heavier", it does not. The way that you play, the theory and scales you use, your guitar, amp and signal chain, and your rhythm section are what really determines how "heavy" your metal is.
    Look at bands like Lamb of God, Children of Bodom, Pantera, and Testament. None of those bands tune lower than C# Standard or Drop C. Lamb of God stuff is in Drop D or Drop C#. Children of Bodom is in D Standard or Drop C. Pantera is anywhere from E Standard (Cowboys), D Standard (Vulgar and Driven) to C# standard (Trendkill). And a lot of Testament is in C# Standard.
    These guys make some super killer heavy riffs without downtuning the guitar more than one and a half steps. Pantera even has a fucking amazing breakdown written in E Standard in their song Domination.
    After a certain point, you can't even make out specific notes or changes in pitch without compressing the tone to high hell.
    Some djent bands (mostly Meshuggah) are cool and pretty damn heavy, but mainly for their killer polyrhythms and Haake's drumming, not for amazingly heavy riffs.

    • @klisterable
      @klisterable 8 років тому +1

      +Jake McB

    • @higaindane
      @higaindane 8 років тому +3

      +Jake McB Dimebag liked to tune down a quarter step from whatever tuning he's in.

    • @themightymcb7310
      @themightymcb7310 8 років тому

      Lavaz666 Yes, I know that. But saying E Standard was a little bit easier and more understandable than Quarter-Step Below E Standard.

    • @themightymcb7310
      @themightymcb7310 8 років тому +3

      ***** And then look at Ashes of the Wake by Lamb of God. Every single track on that record is either in Drop D or D Standard, and I'd argue that as one of the heaviest records I have ever listened to. I agree, heavyness is 100% style, and 0% tuning

    • @themightymcb7310
      @themightymcb7310 8 років тому

      ***** Oh? Well look at Bleed. 8 String guitar, tuned to F# Standard, but the main riff at the beginning is played on the E string anyways. And to simulate the 5th fret B string bend later in the riff, you could bend behind the nut. All you need is their Axe FX setting and some serious skill and that riff would sound just as good on a 6 string

  • @Chris-Courage
    @Chris-Courage 3 роки тому +6

    I find myself watching this video at least once a year because it's so dam hilarious.

  • @grugamerZi
    @grugamerZi 6 років тому +12

    3:57, holy shit, i laugh so hard!

  • @isaiahgomez4074
    @isaiahgomez4074 7 років тому +108

    i feel like there's no legit reason to dislike rob scallon besides jealousy

    • @ericksheldon3870
      @ericksheldon3870 7 років тому +2

      Isaiah Gomez Correct.

    • @coffinfeeder7732
      @coffinfeeder7732 4 роки тому +7

      I disliked because the riff didn’t lend itself towards the experiment in the first place, rendering the video as pointless. It just wasn’t heavy in any tuning.

    • @SmelvinFernsby
      @SmelvinFernsby 4 роки тому +1

      Joe Jane aren’t you just special

  • @danielxdoom3642
    @danielxdoom3642 7 років тому +26

    The "drop Q" tuning actually offered an interesting effect. It sounded pretty cool. I guess down-tuning doesn't really offer much in the way of 'heaviness,' but still makes sense in terms of transposition.

  • @Cattledestroyer
    @Cattledestroyer 5 років тому +7

    I think this should be redone. With fishman fluence pickups and a horizon drive or something like that

  • @holaquetal3085
    @holaquetal3085 4 роки тому +3

    Wów, those *scallon* ed frets must play fantastic

  • @tarkenton3895
    @tarkenton3895 8 років тому +1026

    Pfft, you only play Drop Q? What's happened to metal these days?

  • @1999Dman1
    @1999Dman1 7 років тому +59

    Now i know what pure distortion sounds like

  • @BiRDiEHere
    @BiRDiEHere 6 років тому +1

    Top String Gauges:
    E:0.48
    D:0.51
    C#:0.51
    C:0.70
    B:0.70
    A#:0.70
    A:0.82
    G#:0.82
    G:0.82
    F#:0.82
    Drop Q:0.90, 100, 0.82, 0.70

    • @THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS
      @THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS 6 років тому +1

      Djoes this Djent? Watch my vid Djenting a vintage BASS VI double drop D, maybe it's what you need?

  • @devincatron7898
    @devincatron7898 7 років тому +1

    Honestly one of my Favorites.

  • @killercroc99
    @killercroc99 9 років тому +44

    Rawrb: LOWER IT TO H!
    Matty J: NO! H FLAT!
    Josh: THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS H FLAT!

    • @mikkelscott5356
      @mikkelscott5356 9 років тому +7

      Actually in Denmark, most people call B for H instead for some really retarded reason.

    • @defiantDreemurr
      @defiantDreemurr 9 років тому

      Mikkel Scott A lot of Europe does that, I don't remember what the reason is, but it's been like that for several centuries.

    • @basedboi1023
      @basedboi1023 9 років тому +9

      Seriously? No one else caught the reference?
      THIS SONG. IS SO HEAVY.

    • @ColvinAvianBreadline
      @ColvinAvianBreadline 9 років тому +7

      Paul Anderson
      I love Psychostick!

    • @havingteawithghosts9021
      @havingteawithghosts9021 9 років тому +5

      Paul Anderson IT MAKES YOU WANT TO HEADBUTT A MOUNTAIN!

  • @furryz666
    @furryz666 7 років тому +91

    I have a bass player in my band

  • @HAELLEN_HATECORE
    @HAELLEN_HATECORE 3 роки тому +1

    It's so weird coming back to this video now that I play in drop C1 on a baritone jazzmaster

  • @plumpdy5810
    @plumpdy5810 3 роки тому +1

    The tuning and the distortion settings is what makes something heavy to me

  • @jinjaninja20
    @jinjaninja20 9 років тому +30

    all these music snobs saying "the riff sucked! You suck!" get over it! this video was probably just a gimmick, not a showcase of how good Rob is. Personally, i liked the riff and i love Rob, so keep doing what your doing man! Drop Q FTW!

    • @JacintoVG
      @JacintoVG 9 років тому

      ***** the point is to see if downtuning made it heavier, if the riff were heavier it would be pointless

    • @JacintoVG
      @JacintoVG 9 років тому

      i know that's what you're saying. i'm telling you that this video is supposed to be about proving that. the question is whether or not downtuning will make it heavy on it's own.

    • @jinjaninja20
      @jinjaninja20 9 років тому +5

      You're mature aren't you...

  • @themanwithamission
    @themanwithamission 7 років тому +138

    That poor guitar. I hoped it was burned and laid to rest after this.

    • @124avenged
      @124avenged 7 років тому +27

      ..LAY THIS TO REST

    • @124avenged
      @124avenged 7 років тому +5

      CONSOLE YOUTSELF YOURE BETTER ALONE DESTROY YOURSELF SEE WHO GIVES A FUCK

    • @ElKimesito
      @ElKimesito 5 років тому +2

      @@124avenged IF THERE WAS A DAY I COULD LIVE

    • @broondjongen
      @broondjongen 5 років тому +1

      @@ElKimesito IF THERE WAS A SINGLE BREATH I COULD TAKE

    • @ElKimesito
      @ElKimesito 5 років тому

      @@broondjongen I'D TRADE ALL THE OTHERS AWAY

  • @musicfan8867
    @musicfan8867 4 роки тому

    First time watching Mr. Scallon. Nice riff, skills and humor

  • @jotapedonoso4696
    @jotapedonoso4696 3 роки тому +1

    Ah yes, back to the classics. This riff is still imprinted in my heart and brain to this day

  • @012jacob012
    @012jacob012 7 років тому +230

    I honestly expected to hear a much bigger difference in heaviness. Makes me rethink why all of those metal players are in drop b and drop a

    • @GoldRaptor00
      @GoldRaptor00 7 років тому +42

      this was a fairly poor example because single coil guitars tend to lack the depth and bottom end that guitars with humbuckers have, especially lower tunings

    • @012jacob012
      @012jacob012 7 років тому +2

      yeah, I guess that's true, but their are still a small handful of metal players who use single coils

    • @WaylonMorley
      @WaylonMorley 7 років тому +14

      This guitar has a humbucker in the bridge position

    • @012jacob012
      @012jacob012 7 років тому +1

      oh, kinda hard to see with the camera angle

    • @GoldRaptor00
      @GoldRaptor00 7 років тому +14

      Waylon Morley the model of humbucker matters too. stock humbuckers on guitars, usually the generic ones - like Fenders - have awful low end the lower you go. high output HB's like the Nazgul and EMG 81 have much better sound for those low notes

  • @virtualnuke-bl5ym
    @virtualnuke-bl5ym 8 років тому +178

    Oh god drop Q just sounded like farts.

    • @LukiaTheTrue
      @LukiaTheTrue 8 років тому +11

      Try to imagine... that's what seems to sound a classic Metal song for a non metalhead... you know when they say "it's just noise"... I think...

    • @Scoffslaphead72
      @Scoffslaphead72 7 років тому +5

      guess you could say it we've found the brown note.

    • @BenderBendingRodriguezOFFICIAL
      @BenderBendingRodriguezOFFICIAL 7 років тому

      Not heavy enough.

    • @TheArrycool
      @TheArrycool 7 років тому

      hahaha

    • @noahfaber8303
      @noahfaber8303 7 років тому +1

      The actual tuning is "Drop Ass"

  • @shaheer1112
    @shaheer1112 6 років тому

    dude! I lived in gurnee illinois for so long. Its awesome to know that u and I used to live in the same town.

  • @tonyflamingolindsay4984
    @tonyflamingolindsay4984 4 роки тому +1

    there is a certain chunkieness that drop D# or D standard has, but its not heavy to say. and either way dropping just the (soon to not be) low E highlights it better.

  • @TheHarisayBrothers
    @TheHarisayBrothers 9 років тому +28

    Nobody show this video to Dino Cazares or Stephen Carpenter; we don't need them getting any ideas...

  • @jonathansefcik473
    @jonathansefcik473 7 років тому +33

    Tuning doesn't really affect the heaviness of a song that much. The three things that really matter are the composition itself, production quality/guitar tone, and (only if its not an instrumental) the emotional impact of the lyrics/vocals. There are plenty of songs I've heard in standard tuning that sound way heavier than many 7 or 8 string songs.

    • @juanmanuelcorrea7673
      @juanmanuelcorrea7673 7 років тому +1

      Exactly! The composition, in my opinion, is the biggest factor of the heaviness of a song. Take Peace Sells...But Whos Buying? the album. Good Mourning/Black Friday is extremely heavy mostly due to the composition. And the song is in E standard 1/4 down.

  • @jskrilla989
    @jskrilla989 4 роки тому +3

    I think the drop A tuning was the heaviest it had a good balance that definitely was head banging worthy

  • @comically_large_chungus
    @comically_large_chungus 4 роки тому +2

    The heavier sound comes partially from the scale length of 7 and 8 string guitars as well as the fact that chords with lower notes sound way muddier.

  • @jjptech
    @jjptech 7 років тому +26

    C tuning sounded really good for this particular riff you are playing

  • @dyingempireband
    @dyingempireband 9 років тому +40

    Every time you take the drill I laughted so hard. How do you explained this to the people in the gym? "Hey guys do you mind if I.... ähm yeha just doing some headbanging while you lift? I mean it´s not even that heavy isn´t it?"

    • @robscallon
      @robscallon  9 років тому +92

      Hey dudes! you keep being really manly and I'm just going to be a doofus over here for a bit.

  • @hopefulhyena3400
    @hopefulhyena3400 3 роки тому

    2:34 Hey look, rob made a video on the baritone guitar. Was wondering when he'd get to that.
    For those who don't know, baritone guitars are tuned A to A instead of E to E.

  • @isaiahsarzoza5714
    @isaiahsarzoza5714 3 роки тому

    A is so menacing, I love it

  • @greatcommandment
    @greatcommandment 7 років тому +39

    and there is me, using 11 daddario strings for everything between E and A-Drop

  • @Gnarkill60
    @Gnarkill60 9 років тому +7

    it's not the tuning that makes it heavy, it's the style you play it in.

  • @blahblahsen1142
    @blahblahsen1142 6 років тому

    i still love this video. every time. it inspired me to tune my first act to drop D#0

    • @THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS
      @THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS 6 років тому

      vDjoes this Djent? Watch my vid Djenting a vintage BASS VI double drop D, maybe it's what you need?

  • @ColvinAvianBreadline
    @ColvinAvianBreadline 6 років тому

    You need to do a three year anniversary of this video. It's amazing!

  • @Miloman5599
    @Miloman5599 7 років тому +157

    Ha I think D# sounds the heaviest

  • @thehiddenpaw7939
    @thehiddenpaw7939 9 років тому +3

    When you played in drop Q it opened up a portal in my house, and when I stepped through, I entered into a land of wonder, warm lights, epic heavy metal, hot girls and free pizza. My dog that died when I was a boy was there, also. This snipette didn't start sounding different to me till it hit Drop A. It never actually started to sound heavier to me. I think that's just because it was the same piece over, and over. It's what is being played along with how the other instruments are being played that makes a song more heavy than the next, as opposed to just drop tuning the same riff. That's how I hear this, anyways. Hilarious video, though. Your sense of humor cracks me up :) Party on. Excellent.

  • @vinccarat9462
    @vinccarat9462 4 роки тому +53

    I've never heard a bass mixed so low, there's almost no point in showing the bass footage

  • @cobalt._.27
    @cobalt._.27 4 роки тому +4

    That riff you're playing sounds exactly like the main riff for the song "Santa's Sleigh is On Its Way to Iowa" by Interpret the Y-Intercept. Just letting you know.

    • @yvnggreasepan3084
      @yvnggreasepan3084 4 роки тому +1

      November Guitars did I just spend 10 minutes being pranked?

    • @cobalt._.27
      @cobalt._.27 3 роки тому

      @@yvnggreasepan3084 ?

  • @InThaZ0ne
    @InThaZ0ne 9 років тому +187

    drop q tuning=spaghetti strings

    • @ittdust
      @ittdust 9 років тому +40

      InThaZ0ne So... you don't want to sound like Korn?

    • @jarofpickles3456
      @jarofpickles3456 8 років тому +4

      Duston McCreary Or at this point sounding like Messugah. XD

    • @thomaspierpoint449
      @thomaspierpoint449 8 років тому +1

      I really hope your joking

    • @jarofpickles3456
      @jarofpickles3456 8 років тому

      well their song titled spasm sounds messy so yeah.

    • @LouisMinett
      @LouisMinett 8 років тому +1

      InThaZ0ne
      'The Church Of Spaggy' approves this.

  • @Taz_Olson
    @Taz_Olson 9 років тому +180

    What the hell is drop Q?

    • @blastoise114
      @blastoise114 9 років тому +51

      ***** Q is not a note. It was a joke, hence the shitton of strings he had.

    • @Taz_Olson
      @Taz_Olson 9 років тому +20

      Thought so, now I'm going to tune my guitar to drop Z to match the Z note that I made up just to show him up

    • @blastoise114
      @blastoise114 9 років тому +57

      ***** Dude the Pi note is where it's at, it makes a black hole when you play it

    • @Taz_Olson
      @Taz_Olson 9 років тому +31

      Duuuuude! sounds sick, let me guess, the tabbing is 3 1 4 1 5 9

    • @blastoise114
      @blastoise114 9 років тому +20

      ***** Yep, and if you get an infinite-string guitar you can play the whole thing

  • @TIYX
    @TIYX 5 років тому

    It all depends on what metal sound you think is heavy. Some people call the high gain high treble solo play on the high strings around the 14th fret to be heavy. Others call the open string thumping on the low E string to be heavy. If you are a fan of the high treble metal sound stay with light strings and standard tuning. If you are more of a fan of the low end more bassy sound then tune down and go with 11's.

  • @whiiitepony
    @whiiitepony 3 роки тому

    Sick riff!

  • @obundoben82
    @obundoben82 8 років тому +74

    I honestly thought drop A was the lowest tuning you get on a guitar for the longest time.
    I was proven wrong.

    • @GoldRaptor00
      @GoldRaptor00 7 років тому

      there is no limit

    • @not_purgatory310
      @not_purgatory310 7 років тому +3

      Try E - but one octave lower.
      Kickass guitar sound, that is perfect for rhythm based music and ideal for moshpits and what not!

  • @southofheck
    @southofheck 7 років тому +314

    TUNE IT DOWN TO H FLAT

    • @TheGreatPumpkin
      @TheGreatPumpkin 7 років тому +2

      THAT SONG IS SO HEAVY!

    • @TheYellowSmartie
      @TheYellowSmartie 7 років тому +14

      it makes me want to punch a tornado!

    • @frentzen100
      @frentzen100 7 років тому +15

      H flat is basically A#, or Bb, which is a common tuning on 7 string guitars :D

    • @frentzen100
      @frentzen100 7 років тому +1

      I know :D

    • @frentzen100
      @frentzen100 7 років тому

      I know :D

  • @abro2072
    @abro2072 3 роки тому +1

    idk whats more terrifying, rob without a hat or the fact he casually tosses on 70s for c standard

  • @iStevenPlays
    @iStevenPlays 3 роки тому

    Clear tone drop 70’s man. I love em.