Powder River Expedition, 1865 | Red Cloud's War
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- Credit to Paul I. Wellman: Death on the Prairie, 1934
The summer of 1865 marked the transition from the Civil War to Indian war on the western plains. With the rest of the country’s attention still focused on the East, the U.S. Army began an often forgotten campaign against the Sioux, Cheyenne, and Arapaho. Led by Gen. Patrick Connor, the Powder River Indian Expedition into Wyoming sought to punish tribes for raids earlier that year. This mini-documentary describes the troops’ movement into hostile territory while struggling with bad weather, supply shortages, and communication problems.
Chapters
0:00 Cheyenne Vengeance
3:22 Battle of Platte Bridge
8:57 Planning the Expedition
12:39 Battle of Crazy Woman's Fork
13:15 Sawyer's Survey
15:55 Battles of the Powder & Tongue Rivers
19:56 Walker & Cole's Narrow Escape
22:07 Aftermath - Розваги
There is a book called the Bloody Bozeman by Dorothy Johnson that gives good account of this also.
As a Dutchman, I really love these. Please keep the stories from American history and the Indian Wars coming.
To really experience this you must travel to these states, on a map they look small and within walking distance and relatively small in scale. Out in Colorado and Wyoming it is vast and remote.
@@ericscottstevens True. I have traveled to some of the historical locations in CO, Wyoming, SD, etc. Such as Ft Laramie. But I was 17 and it was part of a bus tour, though I was already pretty knowledgeable about the history. Now that I'm 31 I'd love to go back with my gf, hire a car and do things at my own pace.
Give me a holler when your ready for an tour of known indian raids, battles, skirmishes and such. I've been in this for over 40 yrs now.
I'm 60 yrs old and.my grandfather passed down all his knowledge and stories thru the yrs to me and my cousin. Be glad to
Be your chauffer
I'd love to take you up on that offer Vernon-- I've researched most of the woodland tribes, and the plains indians-- How does one contact you??
@@thomasfoss9963 Thomas Foss- greetings, your interest in the 5 civilized tribes
Is always a welcome subject. Where do you hang your hat?
My gggrandfather was sent west after the close of the war. James Sheufelt with the 6th Michigan Cavalry. Growingup, my dad always heard he fought the Indians. It never made sense and we thought it was just folk lore. Until i got his military papers. Im disappointed that there is virtually nothing about it included in Civil war history. PBS has done countless stories on Civil war. Thanks
@Christine Kotenko The ol' Michigan Brigade. I know it well! What an amazing heritage you have!
10:44 ex Confederates were rostered in these companies as "galvanized yankees" many were indifferent to the mission at hand. So by mid November 1865 many were mustered out after Union regulars were starting arriving into the western theater. The last galvanized yankee units were mustered out by May 1866.
Heya Doorus, congrats .for the production, narration , script and artwork.
I'm a newbie here and you've made my day.
Talk about " interesting times ", what a terrible but inevitable series of brutal clashes.
Thanks for shining a light .
Very good presentation. You are to be commended.
Excellent. Thank you!
Great video. Excellent presentation! Thank you.
Very interesting, haven't heard the details of these battles.
White horse sounds Like He was a total badass and all Out of bubblegum
Excellent content! 👏👏👏
unpoliticized history. these are good. gives a perspective for both sides
Why because it leaves the native perspective out?
@@captainfanta8641 "The native perspective" is the only one heard anymore these days.
Often painted as peace loving hippies who did little more than live at one with the earth who smoked weed out of peace pipes, ate peyote , while singing and dancing around campfires. They were anything but. they were in fact no different than any other people found all over the world. They were fighting wars of total annihilation against each other over land and resources for centuries before the Europeans first arrived perhaps even tens of thousands of years, and practiced slavery regularly.
Their land wasn't stolen from them. They lost it the same way every people have lost lands since the dawn of humanity. though violent conflict the say way they themselves acquired it.
@@thomasmendez2816Hardly-- The true perspective finally came out after 100 years of outright lies!!! While some of what you say could be viewed as true, your bias stands out front and center--- You seem to display the same attitude as the greedy settlers at the time---- No, they weren't peace loving hippies as you claim-- the hunter/gatherers had to protect their hunting grounds for their own livelihood, and security--- East of the Mississippi, they smoked only tobacco mostly in ceremonies, and as an offering of trade, and as a native plant specialist, I believe peyote was only prevalent in the Southwest, and western plains----
@@thomasfoss9963 No. ALL of what I say is true. I have no bias. As a historian I only want to know what the actual history is. Not the spun history.
History is never as black and white as the narratives such as your bias tries to make it. And just as history is most often written by the victors. There has yet to be a people on the losing end of a war that hasnt spun and portrayed themselves as unfairly treated or portrayed as villains undeserving of their eventual fate.
If you think and feel so strongly that the indians have been unfairly treated and had their land stolen fro them. Then perhaps you should give whatever land you own back to them. Because technically by your own definition. You are in possession of stolen property. I know you wont. People like you never do despite their claims of sympathy. See its one thing to claim to have convictions. Its quite another to prove the courage of your convictions.
The artwork is excellent.
My go to artists are...
Frederic Remington
Charles M. Russel
Edmund Berninghaus
Charles Schreyvogel
George Catlin
John J. Miller
So tragic.
Cheyenne got the fight, Souix got the glory, and the Crow got the land.
Arapahoes got the Casino 👌🌟
The crow kept their native lands lol
@@rivmitch7181 Of course they would bcuz THEY WERE THE US CALVERY'S SCOUTS ! ! ! (LOL !)
😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
@@rivmitch7181 The Crow befriended the US from the very first encounter. Still that way today.
Mostly lakota too few cheyennes there for that claim lol but hey just sayn
You’re very professional
There was also a contingent of Ohio Cavalry at the Platte Bridge Station. Lots of animosity between them and the Kansas troopers there.
Didn't give in without a fight at least
I recently found your channel, and I like it, I’ve been glued to it all day!.. please explain the name of the channel? Doorus/walrus
Therein lies a tale! XD
Long story short, my roommates and I were a bunch of nerds in college. Doorus was our mascot: a stuffed walrus placed above our door (Door-(us) is the masculine, nominative, singular for the English word door...Latin joke). Anytime we had a historical conundrum, we'd consult Doorus...who recounted his experience in said historical event, usually through the voice of one of my roommates or me. I received Doorus along with a 1902 photograph of Theodore Roosevelt upon graduation.
Yea
Did the Cavalry ever Win Not sure why they were so bad.The Indians were awesome Warriors
Yeah its AOK
Tried to watch your Sioux Indian War playlist and 1 of the videos is blocked/hidden. Great work though, reminds me of watching. Ken Burns The West.
That's interesting. Which video is blocked? I'll try and rectify it.
@@doorusthewalrus6903 I can see Sand Creek, Minnesota Massacure and Powder River. For whichever one that leaves out.
" Chastise those Rash Hostiles......" Sounds almost polite.....(?)
People and those in the military back then believed themselves to be Christians. So, their words would of been a bit less rash in expression.
Fort Collins Colorado named after Lt. Collins
you pronounce niobrara wrong
In the first story, about the incidents in Colorado, the Trail near Julesberg is the Santa Fe Trail. The Oregon Trail does not pass through Colorado.
Belle Fourche River, is pronounced "foosh".
4:45 mein gott...the captured LT's face was blown off by indians pouring powder in his mouth and lighting it! it was truly a war of mutual xenophobic extermination.
Personal timestamp 4:51
Did Indians ever attack other Indian tribes,or Mexicans?
ABSOLUTELY! Tribes waged war an each other as rite of passage since the beginning of time. Another channel, 'History at the OK Corral' is doing a great job recording inter-tribal conflicts. Definitely, check him out!
I wish I knew more about Indian-Mexican conflicts, but from my peripheral reading about the Apache and Comanche, they were mortal enemies of the Mexicans. The Comanche were the main reason why the Catholic missions never flourished in Texas as they did in California. In fact, the Mexican government turned to the Americans under Moses Austin to settle Texas after repeated failed attempts by Mexican settlers because the Comanche kept driving them off.
The Apache and Mexican HATED each other with a passion! Raiding into Mexico for slaves and goods was practically a given for Apache youths. It got to the point that Mexicans put bounties on Apache scalps, whether men, women, or children. Geronimo's immediate family where killed by Mexicans, which in turn seeded a vendetta in retaliation. I wish I knew more about Indian conflicts with Mexico, but I have yet to find a good book on the subject.
Needless to say, pre-Columbian tribes where absolutely rife with warfare.
Gold needed to pay the Union debts from civil war
Blood enemies stood together against a common enemy on both sides. Manifest Destiny drove the settlers like an unstoppable tsunami across the west. The war in the east had ended and young men forged by that war longed to escape their ghosts. While the native people wanted to live the way they had, they had to face the reality that these people were not going to be stopping by anything short of total genocide. This campaign was but a bitter taste of what was to come in the west.
Roman nose weighed 230 pounds ... Really ? So did someone weigh him ?
I think someone is telling Hollywood stories here. LoL
Probably an exaggeration, but the point stands that he was big.
I read the information in Isaac T. Coates' journal, 'On the Plains with Custer and Hancock: The Journal of Isaac Coates, Army Surgeon'
"... of all the chiefs, he is one of the finest specimens, physically, of his race. He is quite six feet in height, finely formed with a large body and muscular limbs. His appearance, decidedly military, and on this occasion, particularly so, since he wore the uniform of a General in the Army. A seven-shooting Spencer carbine hung at the side of his saddle, four large Navy revolvers stuck in his belt, and a bow, already strung with arrows, were grasped in his left hand. Thus armed and mounted on a fine horse, he was a good representative of the God of War; and his manner showed plainly that he did not care whether we talked or fought."
No, there's bunch of really big Indian people from that area. I use to have a few girlfriends whose 'other' boyfriends were HUGE. I'm Navajo Tribe, myself.
Roman nose was said to be a large man. The Sioux were said to average 6' foot back then. So I believe it.
He was known as a huge guy
He was also called Hugh Mungus.
Then another 20,000 soldiers showed up with more powerful weapons. The indians said uh oh. They wisely decided to settle down and get pickup trucks.
And the US military murdered about 200 of them in 1890, men, women and children in the freezing cold. Buried in mass graves. Land of the free and all that yada yada.
@@robsmithadventures1537 yada yada.
@@thewanderersguide4568 yada yada and would you make light of 9/11?
@@robsmithadventures1537 what I would never do is disparage the United States the way you did. Bad things have happened in every country, done by every ethnic group. This is the greatest country on earth, period. I start every single day with a heart full of gratitude that I live here, rather than in some communist hell hole. Do you have even an ounce of gratitude, for the computer you are typing on or the electricity that powers it? Next time you need a surgeon or an oncologist, go find a shaman and see how that works out. So yeah, yada yada yada dude.
American Indians from 1540 to 1890 TAUGHT the white-man how to fight. That's why US won WW2. I've already accepted your thank you!
Narrator and commenters both are confusing CAValry🐎 and CALvary✝️.
Word perfect wont correct it... calavry
No matter how you describe it, the Indian wars were a land grab won with superior weapons and firepower, and history is written by the victors.
White man victory!!
Not hardly. The Powder River Campaign was a huge waste of manpower, supplies, and money. The Sioux were at the height of their power, expanding into Crow territory. Reinforced with Arapaho and Cheyenne warriors, it would be many years before a United States, still reeling from the Civil War, could muster a force to effectively combat the Sioux.
It's also a matter of mindset. You need soldiers and officers who are used to the guerrilla warfare with the Indians, their tactics, the terrain etc. The last generation of frontiersman who knew the American Indian were middle aged to elderly mountain men whose trapper-frontier ended in the 1840s. Everyone else were greenhorns from the East who immigrated west in wagon trains. They weren't entirely ignorant, but they collectively did not comprehend the Indian's mindset the same fashion as the previous generation.
A whole new batch of soldiers and officers needed to be trained from scratch. Training comes from experience. Experience comes with mistakes.
How did the so called native Americans just pop up out of the ground? No they migrated here like all have.
there is NO SUCH THING as an American Indian
calling an Native American an "indian" is like calling a black man a n****r
just stop with your "battles" that are massacres and your "massacres" that are battles
every time First People win, it's a "massacre", every time the White-eyes win it's a "battle"
and every "battle" SEEMS TO BE against villages of old men, women and children
and every massacre SEEM TO BE any time the Calvary LOSES, which they did, regularly, until repeating firearms were developed in the 1850s
so............stop with your colonizer terms
I'm not making moral judgments or attempting to finagle language to fit an alternative interpretation of history. "American Indian" is the common term used by historians and history's participants for hundreds of years. I'm not about to change the term because contemporaries arbitrarily decide it is "insensitive." There is no reason to spread such vitriol. It's just history.
Cavalry 🐎🐎🐎
Calvary ✝️✝️✝️
While you make a good argument.... much of which is true. You have to remember that the Indians, them selves, lived by the rule of conquest. That is. the stronger tribe would regularly take over territory of smaller and weaker tribes, by force mostly. The white man was just a much bigger and stronger tribe and they took the territory by force, the same as any other Indian tribe would have. And a second note... if you read up on the eye witness stories of what happened to villages when they were attacted by other Indian tribes... the stories are just horrific.... i mean they are just horrific...
@@mikebraun9673 yeah yeah yeah...the Great White Savior, huh? the White Eyed Devils came to show the dirty injuns HOW to really be evil?
@@delphinazizumbo8674 Please understand... The men on this expedition attacked and killed whole villages of Indians killing men women and chidden, and elderly alike. Yes, this was inhuman and in our modern eyes inexcusable. But understand, all these men, the troops, were the children of survivors of the Indian conflict in the Three Rivers area (modern day Pittsburgh) and the Ohio river valley conflicts.... and the Indian takeover of Fort Chicago at the start of the war of 1812. If you read the eye witness accounts of what happened to the non-Indian people in those conflicts, you will understand the mindset of the people, and why they had the motivation to do what they did.
BTW,
They are not Indians ,
Indians come from the country of India,
They are correctly. Called originals,
Please pull your head out of your backside
"Originals" from whose standpoint? If we want to be adherently orthodox, the "Indians" are whatever their familial tribe's name is.
Being an "Original" I a identify as Payomkawichum. 😉.
The term "Indian," in reference to the original inhabitants of the American continent came from Christopher Columbus, he so named the indigenous peoples as "Indians" because he was convinced he had arrived in "the Indies" (Asia), his intended destination. As a result, the indigenous peoples later came to be colloquially referred to as being "Indians"
@@doorusthewalrus6903 correction, UA-cam is a little hosed up, what I was trying to say is that the natives were correctly called aboriginals not Indians. That’s all I was trying to say. I personally don’t care where a person is from or their lineage. I just want to be treated with respect and dignity. I try to do the same, but I make mistakes and try my best and I learn by being around other people and absorb and respect their various cultures even though I might not agree with it. Take care, stay safe and be sure to keep your hands clean and washed up at all times. Peace out…
@@EVISEH Thanks Tips. Thanks for sharing common knowledge.
They were and always be savages and had to be annilated
What they did to prisoners and how they tortured was incredibly inhuman. But to them it was about survival and atrocities at the murder scenes were meant to scare off future foes. It did the opposite for it made the war on the plains more brutal than ever imagined.
Sheer, and complete ignorance on your part Robt Molfy-- You have quite a bit of research to perform---
@@thomasfoss9963 they contributed nothing to this country or society
@@robertmalfy8552 SHEER IGNORANCE-----
Proud to be Savage. Oglala Lakota
Stone age that's how they lost
No, it was lack of numbers as well as loss of resources like food and lands that we could be free from harassment. That became hard to find.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!! Who failed? Where are the Sioux and Cheyenne today. They may have won battles, definitely lost the wars.
You are sick.
Who were the savages then it was their land Putin thinks Ukraine is his get the similarity
News flash were still here
The technology was no longer fair
@@mzmarkroark5711 growing stronger everyday while America devours itself out of greed and ignorance.