This guy doesn't nearly get enough recognition. Even though I saw his picture on a Slingshot at big 5 sporting goods. It's still not enough. He taught me that any man can shoot Anything. With all of these kids Wrapped up in the COD Era of firearms. All of these broccoli headed little children Could never understand or appreciate this kind of knowledge
Maybe Dave is getting us ready for a time when we can't afford to buy shells. A big jar of black powder, some BB's and an old tshirt don't cost that much.
Love these firearm videos Dave, in specific situations the firearm could be a critical piece of a survival gear. Hoping to see more of these types of videos!
Fascinating Dave thanks. I've often pondered making such shells.I've done lots of black powder shooting and shotshell reloading. I also enjoyed the survival shows you used to do. That shell you made would be perfectly legal and adequate on waterfowl as well.
No worries. He is using Pyrodex. This is a synthetic black powder that doesn't explode. In fact its not classed as an explosive like black powder. The synthetics have a coating over each grain, and they are classed as propellants, since they dont have the risk of heat or static electric flash over. They are also non-corrosive. I cant recall anyone here still using actual BP around here. been like that for 20 years here or so. Hot wax is no danger for synthetics.
Very good video. I have an old Belgian SxS with laminated barrels. I made two "test loads" with cut down 2-3/4 shells and Pyrodex. Regular plastic wad, #7-1/2 lead shot and 40 grains of Pyrodex. Covered the top with liquid beeswax. Worked fine. Thank you for the great videos!!
LOVE the Video Mr. Canterbury, incredibly useful to me as my bush gun is an old Iver Johnson/Schattuck Side-Snap 12G that's over 136 years old at this point, going on rough estimates from production dates. I used to use Brass MAGTECH shells before I move, but I can't find them anymore, I'm just going to use this method from now on! I even have a ton of BBs leftover from my pellet gun days as a kid! Hopefully, one day, I can make it down for some classes. My current goal is to save up enough to buy a piece of land up here out in the Canadian Wilderness that I can build a small log cabin on as a retreat for times off work or just whenever I need away from things!
Thanks for taking the time and effort to put out great content like this... in a TEOTWAWKI situation, knowing basic survival skills like these is critical.😊 maybe life saving
@xdeloach primers use mercury fulminate which reacts explosively when struck, its very difficult and somewhat expensive to synthesize in your own home, none the less very dangerous. I would just recommend buying a bunch and storing them.
So nice Video David. Like the simple black powder with a mix of 1 oz of both shot and powder. Cloth or cardboard dividers cool. Field dressing the best. Well done!
Dave I liked both of your black powder 12 Ga. shotgun videos some times I'll find shotgun brass laying around in the dirt that has been stepped on and the plastic is smashed and I always think what a waste but now I realize I can just cut of the plastic and tap the base back till it's round again by using a piece of dowel or a round branch and a guy is back in business thanks for the video bro.
I would suggest both, but what you can afford it probably the best answer. The single shot is the simplest with few moving parts. If I was in a wilderness situation like he is talking about I would want the simplest. Great question.
Dave, I like the way that you did that. You should be able to close the top of the plastic case with a little work, and then seal that shut with the wax. You could loop your string around the magnet and back through itself instead of having to retie it all the time. Geoff
its worth noting for anyone who reloads shotgun shells..... They can only be reloaded a few times.. 3 or 4 depending on the shell.... you will know when its not safe any longer... the shell will look it
Some 'survival only' suggestions Primers - refill with strike anywhere match heads, or scrap off the strike area and heads of normal matches mixing the two. You can push it into the cap or wet with water and make a paste to put into the cap. It's a good idea to flatten the cap. Powder - can use standard match heads for powder. Shot - stones, glass, metal fragments can be used. As mentioned before, these are for survival only, use at your own risk.
Thanks for sharing Dave. I recently looked at a reloader and money money and more. This seems to sum up a poor boys method to doing it right. THanks again!
Just finally got all the components gathered up to do this. Powder was the toughest to find but I have some now. QUESTION CAN I USE A REGULAR CANDLE,or does it have to be beeswax
I know this is an old video Dave. But its very interesting. I've probably watched it a dozen times. I to load 12 gauge shells like that with pyrodex. Its simple and fun. Along with shot loads, I also load a 69 caliber round ball round. I load them with 80 grains of powder, and over shot wad, and a felt wad, then take ball and use patch around ball just like in muzzle loaders to keep tight in bore, then wax the top. That load is quite surprising as far as power goes, and recoil in a light single shot. Thanks for a great video.
I've reloaded shotshells with BP before. PROS: As the video shows, less costly than smokeless, can load in the field with simple "ingredients". I have shot decent patterns up to about 30 yards. Closer in patterns are better though, obviously. I have not hunted with the BP shotgun. I suspect that the low velocity is an issue with knock down ability. For ducks I would say over decoys would be good but pass shots probably not. CONS: Dirty as all get out. Yes you can clean your gun in the creek or whatever but if you were, say, dove, quail or duck hunting you might need to shoot many times before being able to clean. I'm not sure how that would go. I guess bring some patches and bore cleaner with you and clean every few shots???
Dave i think your videos are really great. alot of info. For the black powder in the shotgun was great. I like that one. One hint from a friend of mine the old timers in Kentucky used hornets nest for the wad.
Hey Dave in your experience how many times can you reload the same shell? Or is it indefinite as long as it doesn’t get damaged? Thank you so much for all your work
Another real good characteristic of black powder is it does not HAVE to work at high pressure. Smokeless modern powder must be loaded to near the max or you may get squib (failed) loads. Also these smokeless modern powders require assembly under .pressure which cannot be reliably done by hand or w/o a real reloading press. As a shotshell reloader for over 40 years, I thank you for bringing us this simple emergency concept. Now if we had 12 ga. pyrodex load for a 40 to 45 cal pistol bullet in simple homemade sabot that conjured up 1050 fps, that would be a medium game load for short range.
great vid Dave ,i also enjoyed the other vid on this subject.when you were taking out the forearm screw on the other vid i thought of welding a wing nut to the screw.just an idea.thanks for all you do.happy thanksgiving to you and your family
Dave I do all my own reloading . Just FYI if you use the same gun that it was fired from this will work. But if you have a shell from a diff gun then more than likely have to be resized. Your reloading info will work for single shot and pump shotguns that the shell was fired from, for semi and double barrel best if you resize the fired case may not fit.
Dave, try a Pyrodex load for shotgun using 74.7 grain, which is the equal to approx 109.2 Goex FFg black powder. Thanks for your patience with me. - C.J.
Steel bicycle bearings can be used as 00 buck, because as far as I know, all they sell at Walmart is birdshot. Home made pipe shotgun barrels are hard to mess up.
@1973Saved not sure on a 12 guage but on black traditonal black powder barrels copper is completely usable but since its harder than lead it sometimes leaves copper scrapings or smearing inside the barrel which can be a pain to clean out and can affect accuracy of rifled barrels, they do have copper cased sabots for muzzleloaders but theres a spit concensess on use, half the people are for it n half are against it.
@azreal289 i am sorry to say that the bb's will damage your barrel as their coatings are shallow and the compressive forces are well beyond what a bb gun can deliver. The coating protects bb guns but wont do a thing for your rifle barrel.
Excellent, I have an old Sears (1960's) SS 2 3/4 - 3" full choke 12ga in really great shape, to use with black powder if there is an ammo shortage. Good Idea?
@CivilianSheepdog It's easy to make high quality black powder too, here is a 100g batch... 75g potassium nitate(salt peter) 15g charcoal(made from willow or pine even works well) and 10g sulfur... I make alot of own for my fireworks. It's a good skill to learn for bushcrafting,survival and WTSHF. Many uses for it, start fire's, charcoal can be used if a toxic plant is injested, camp security(trip lines boom) and its cheap to make...
@gander2000 really depends in the shell, if you use light loads the the shell does not wear you can reload an infinite amount of times, as long as there are no crackes or splits you should be fine
Could you use this technique on a 10 gauge side by side made in 1888 if the gun is in shootable condition? I picked up a J.N. Scotts with hammers just because it looks cool. Figured what the heck and try to make it shootable with the right black powder load. I'm all ears.....
Are you worried that those hard steel BBs will wear hard on your barrel or is this just a just in case skill, in other words do you regularly use this load
Been a while Dave, we need you now more than ever. Gotta teach this next generation some survival stuff... It looks more and more like we're gonna need it.
@alphawolfxxx86 in general, break actions(single or double barrel) would be best for this since there's no moving parts acting on the shell except for the ejector, the hitting of one shell on another in a magazine might degrade the condition of the shell since there's no crimp keeping it together anymore. if you don't have a break action, get on, you can buy them used and in great condition for as low as $40-$60 at flea markets, gun shops or gun shows, no reason to not get one if you want one.
Very informative. I'm wondering, however, what the advantage of doing this is, as opposed to just taking more shells into the field? Seems like the weight would be the same except for the plastic casings for the extra shells. You're already carrying the powder and the shot. What am I missing?
Dave...awesome as usual...just one thing. PYRODEX isnt a true black powder, what you got there is a SEMI SMOKELESS, and the best parts of BOTH powder types. lower power level so safe for shotguns and pistols, but here's the cool part. you can ALSO find loadings for 45 LONG COLT, and 45 ACP, since both were loaded to black powder pressure levels. Cannot wait until You and Cody tear it up again, even my wife loves your series. HOO AH, and keep your powder dry brother... Seeya Dude
I like loading BP for center-fire rifle & pistol. Have not tried shotgun as yet....The BP absorbs moisture, and I have ignition problems.... I dry the BP under an incandescent bulb, and use some 777 over the primer to get the Pyrodex ignited.
First, I have to laugh at everyone telling you what you're doing wrong when clearly it works. Second, a serious question: How would you make/substitute primers if you had none in a long term self-reliant situation?
Hey Dave, have you considered cutting down a old shell at 100 grains to use as a measure or a spare measure? It'd help keep the bbs from clogging up. Great video btw.
sure it will work.i dont have much experience with 20ga (im more of a 12ga person)but start with a 50/50 load with 50 grains of powder and work your way up.you almost cant over charge a modern gun with black powder.
Good video - well thought out, simple, well explained. My only thing to mention would be that true black powder is corrosive, and pyrodex doubly so. More than a few people out there don't know that, and don't know how to clean it out of their guns properly. Perhaps you mentioned it on the muzzle loader video, but I didn't notice it in this one.
Have you ever tried hot glue instead of wax? I mean when you carry them shells around in your pocket in very hot weather for some time, the wax might be melting and it would be a damn mess. Hot glue won´t melt from even the highest enviromental temperatures... and you can carry those glue sticks with ya just like a candle, so it can be done in the field, too. Hot glue would probably create even more resistance before the gases push the pellets outta the shell, thus increasing the pressure and you might have a few per cent more of a punch... a downside could be that the upper layer of pellets might stay together with the glue and come out as some kinda solid "bullet" but what the hell... there´s still enough pellets underneath that layer. Try and make a video :-)
Dave, I like your simple reloading kit. I have a Lee Loader Deluxe hand loading press. I also agree with your opinion on using larger shot, more versitile, more humane on something big enough to not require a slug. However, if I'm not mistaken, Ohio law forbids the use of anything bigger than #4 birdshot on game???
Dave I have been looking for one of these magnets since you posted this video with no success where did you get yours? The closest thing I could find was at menards online store as there is none near me and it was ceramic Also what size is this magnet and the drilled hole thanks Jason
Neat idea, how much powder did you use or how would you guestimate a quantity, I have an old Model 37 that I would like to try this with. Do you know if the brass shells used in cowboy action shooting would work just the same? Thanks
Love this series, but perhaps the volatility of black powder should be stressed to newer reloaders in that holding a flame so close to the workspace could be disastrous? The expansion volume may be lower than smokeless, but I believe the flammability & explosiveness may be higher. Any chance of showing us how to make an improvised powder in the field from easy to find stuff? Even then, I reckon the primers would be a limiting factor.
To save from using the wax I wonder if there's some type of common cap or rubber plug that could be reused multiple times as long as you take it off before you fire it.
I’m a little confused. Most of the BBs I find are steel coated with something else. Isn’t steel always a bad choice for older gun barrels, even if they are coated?
Sir, great video, as always, very informative. My question is if that target was full of holes, and in a real life situation, could our teeth handle such "accuracy"? Were those bbs #6, or something else? Thank you Sir, for your hard work in producing these types of lessons for us --> in-the-bush.
COME ON PEOPLE why would this video negate the idea of dropping a dislike? REALLY are you kidding me, the man is trying to teach us and your way of saying thanks is dislike, id have more respect for you if you would at least tell them man why you dislike the video! Dave thank you sir, you have taught me so much of the years i don't know how i ever could repay you!!!
Hey dave how much powder whould you put into a 2 3/4 in shell if your going to use a hard cast lead slug that ways 2.5 oz ive heard 32 grains of smokeless but I dont know what that equals in blackpowder
love your vids even got me one of your sling bows ,having said that you loading that primer looks hella dangerous I think if things really come to a head and gotta survive using Bush crafted methods I think I'll just put my Lee load all in my pack it's small won't take up much room plus by the time you load one your way I'll already have 25 made my way keep making the great vids tho much love to you brother
This guy doesn't nearly get enough recognition. Even though I saw his picture on a Slingshot at big 5 sporting goods. It's still not enough. He taught me that any man can shoot Anything. With all of these kids Wrapped up in the COD Era of firearms. All of these broccoli headed little children Could never understand or appreciate this kind of knowledge
Maybe Dave is getting us ready for a time when we can't afford to buy shells. A big jar of black powder, some BB's and an old tshirt don't cost that much.
You can leave off the top wad and mix wax with the shot and make a wax slug to use on game up to deer size in a pinch.
Love these firearm videos Dave, in specific situations the firearm could be a critical piece of a survival gear. Hoping to see more of these types of videos!
Fascinating Dave thanks. I've often pondered making such shells.I've done lots of black powder shooting and shotshell reloading. I also enjoyed the survival shows you used to do. That shell you made would be perfectly legal and adequate on waterfowl as well.
No worries. He is using Pyrodex. This is a synthetic black powder that doesn't explode. In fact its not classed as an explosive like black powder. The synthetics have a coating over each grain, and they are classed as propellants, since they dont have the risk of heat or static electric flash over. They are also non-corrosive. I cant recall anyone here still using actual BP around here. been like that for 20 years here or so. Hot wax is no danger for synthetics.
if you have 3 different color shells, you can load and be able to color code small, med, large game rounds. just an idea i got watching your vid =)
Thats amazing...you just brought new life to my HR single shot 12 gauge....
Very good video. I have an old Belgian SxS with laminated barrels. I made two "test loads" with cut down 2-3/4 shells and Pyrodex. Regular plastic wad, #7-1/2 lead shot and 40 grains of Pyrodex. Covered the top with liquid beeswax. Worked fine. Thank you for the great videos!!
LOVE the Video Mr. Canterbury, incredibly useful to me as my bush gun is an old Iver Johnson/Schattuck Side-Snap 12G that's over 136 years old at this point, going on rough estimates from production dates.
I used to use Brass MAGTECH shells before I move, but I can't find them anymore, I'm just going to use this method from now on! I even have a ton of BBs leftover from my pellet gun days as a kid!
Hopefully, one day, I can make it down for some classes. My current goal is to save up enough to buy a piece of land up here out in the Canadian Wilderness that I can build a small log cabin on as a retreat for times off work or just whenever I need away from things!
Awesome! Also love the cross hanging off the neck. God bless you brother.
Thanks for taking the time and effort to put out great content like this... in a TEOTWAWKI situation, knowing basic survival skills like these is critical.😊 maybe life saving
Way to go Dave. Your long hunter series is one great idea!!! I LOVE IT!!!!!
@xdeloach primers use mercury fulminate which reacts explosively when struck, its very difficult and somewhat expensive to synthesize in your own home, none the less very dangerous. I would just recommend buying a bunch and storing them.
Dave, these last few videos with the 12 gauge H&R have been very interesting. Thanks
Looking at the comnents from 11 years ago, it is amazing how much people didn't consider the situation our country is in now.
Dave, you have really inspired me,you make me think of a modern day Nessmuk.
thank you
So about doing this for 20 ga. ....
Great video and fine job. Never thought of using shot shells over in this way. Definitely interested in trying this method out.
The nice thing about this is that in a SHTF situation there wil be plenty of spet shotgun shells lying around.
So nice Video David. Like the simple black powder with a mix of 1 oz of both shot and powder. Cloth or cardboard dividers cool. Field dressing the best. Well done!
Dave I liked both of your black powder 12 Ga. shotgun videos some times I'll find shotgun brass laying around in the dirt that has been stepped on and the plastic is smashed and I always think what a waste but now I realize I can just cut of the plastic and tap the base back till it's round again by using a piece of dowel or a round branch and a guy is back in business thanks for the video bro.
thank you for clarifying and expanding. I I may say so u´re the best channel on the web. I thank you and wranglestar for pointing you out to me.
I would suggest both, but what you can afford it probably the best answer. The single shot is the simplest with few moving parts. If I was in a wilderness situation like he is talking about I would want the simplest. Great question.
This is good "need to know" infromation, thanks Dave. I have a question, you used the BP Equivelant, can the real BP be used safely?
@MrGattor33 you can, it's the exact same thing. you use 209 shotgun primers in these newer primer muzzleloaders, it's what they were designed to use.
2011 the good old days.
Dave, I like the way that you did that. You should be able to close the top of the plastic case with a little work, and then seal that shut with the wax. You could loop your string around the magnet and back through itself instead of having to retie it all the time.
Geoff
its worth noting for anyone who reloads shotgun shells..... They can only be reloaded a few times.. 3 or 4 depending on the shell.... you will know when its not safe any longer... the shell will look it
12 gauge,my weapon of choice.Now i'm gonna get a single shot and try this.."reloading"....Thanks for the info...
Some 'survival only' suggestions
Primers - refill with strike anywhere match heads, or scrap off the strike area and heads of normal matches mixing the two. You can push it into the cap or wet with water and make a paste to put into the cap. It's a good idea to flatten the cap.
Powder - can use standard match heads for powder.
Shot - stones, glass, metal fragments can be used.
As mentioned before, these are for survival only, use at your own risk.
Starting to get into this now. Bought a beat up 12 ga modified H&R just to start doing this. I have had positive results so far.
OUTSTANDING VIDEO Dave!! Great follow-up as well. I wasn't sure this could be accomplished safely, but you proved it could!! Thanks again ~
Thanks for sharing Dave. I recently looked at a reloader and money money and more. This seems to sum up a poor boys method to doing it right. THanks again!
Yes! Black powder guns. I so want to get into those.
I think we might be allowed to get a license for them here in Australia.
Weight to Volume Equivalent Weights- ( Conversions )
Goex - 100 gr FFg -
APP FFg - 85.0
777 FFg - 73.3
Pinnacle FFg - 88.0
Pinnacle FFFg - 85.0
Pyrodex RS - 68.4
Just finally got all the components gathered up to do this. Powder was the toughest to find but I have some now.
QUESTION CAN I USE A REGULAR CANDLE,or does it have to be beeswax
Great vid, the lighter makes me nervous with the pryodex! :-)
I know this is an old video Dave. But its very interesting. I've probably watched it a dozen times. I to load 12 gauge shells like that with pyrodex. Its simple and fun. Along with shot loads, I also load a 69 caliber round ball round. I load them with 80 grains of powder, and over shot wad, and a felt wad, then take ball and use patch around ball just like in muzzle loaders to keep tight in bore, then wax the top. That load is quite surprising as far as power goes, and recoil in a light single shot. Thanks for a great video.
I've reloaded shotshells with BP before. PROS: As the video shows, less costly than smokeless, can load in the field with simple "ingredients". I have shot decent patterns up to about 30 yards. Closer in patterns are better though, obviously. I have not hunted with the BP shotgun. I suspect that the low velocity is an issue with knock down ability. For ducks I would say over decoys would be good but pass shots probably not.
CONS: Dirty as all get out. Yes you can clean your gun in the creek or whatever but if you were, say, dove, quail or duck hunting you might need to shoot many times before being able to clean. I'm not sure how that would go. I guess bring some patches and bore cleaner with you and clean every few shots???
I tryed this and it works real well.Also he suggested getting a box of the brass shot shells to reload and they last for a long time !
@CivilianSheepdog I use -325 mesh aluminium for that, seems to ignite alot faster and it makes great flash.
Dave i think your videos are really great. alot of info. For the black powder in the shotgun was great. I like that one. One hint from a friend of mine the old timers in Kentucky used hornets nest for the wad.
Hey Dave in your experience how many times can you reload the same shell? Or is it indefinite as long as it doesn’t get damaged? Thank you so much for all your work
Another real good characteristic of black powder is it does not HAVE to work at high pressure. Smokeless modern powder must be loaded to near the max or you may get squib (failed) loads. Also these smokeless modern powders require assembly under .pressure which cannot be reliably done by hand or w/o a real reloading press. As a shotshell reloader for over 40 years, I thank you for bringing us this simple emergency concept. Now if we had 12 ga. pyrodex load for a 40 to 45 cal pistol bullet in simple homemade sabot that conjured up 1050 fps, that would be a medium game load for short range.
Great video Dave! Thanks for being you Brother!
great vid Dave ,i also enjoyed the other vid on this subject.when you were taking out the forearm screw on the other vid i thought of welding a wing nut to the screw.just an idea.thanks for all you do.happy thanksgiving to you and your family
Dave I do all my own reloading . Just FYI if you use the same gun that it was fired from this will work. But if you have a shell from a diff gun then more than likely have to be resized. Your reloading info will work for single shot and pump shotguns that the shell was fired from, for semi and double barrel best if you resize the fired case may not fit.
Dave, try a Pyrodex load for shotgun using 74.7 grain, which is the equal to approx 109.2 Goex FFg black powder. Thanks for your patience with me. - C.J.
Steel bicycle bearings can be used as 00 buck, because as far as I know, all they sell at Walmart is birdshot. Home made pipe shotgun barrels are hard to mess up.
@1973Saved not sure on a 12 guage but on black traditonal black powder barrels copper is completely usable but since its harder than lead it sometimes leaves copper scrapings or smearing inside the barrel which can be a pain to clean out and can affect accuracy of rifled barrels, they do have copper cased sabots for muzzleloaders but theres a spit concensess on use, half the people are for it n half are against it.
THE WIZARD OF THE WOODS, THANKS DAVE FOR ALL THE KNOWLEDGE AND TIME
@azreal289 i am sorry to say that the bb's will damage your barrel as their coatings are shallow and the compressive forces are well beyond what a bb gun can deliver. The coating protects bb guns but wont do a thing for your rifle barrel.
Keep up the Longhunter Series! This education is priceless for the common man...thanks for all you do!
Excellent, I have an old Sears (1960's) SS 2 3/4 - 3" full choke 12ga in really great shape, to use with black powder if there is an ammo shortage. Good Idea?
@CivilianSheepdog It's easy to make high quality black powder too, here is a 100g batch... 75g potassium nitate(salt peter) 15g charcoal(made from willow or pine even works well) and 10g sulfur... I make alot of own for my fireworks. It's a good skill to learn for bushcrafting,survival and WTSHF. Many uses for it, start fire's, charcoal can be used if a toxic plant is injested, camp security(trip lines boom) and its cheap to make...
@gander2000 really depends in the shell, if you use light loads the the shell does not wear you can reload an infinite amount of times, as long as there are no crackes or splits you should be fine
Thank you for this video I love using black powder now I can use it in my shotgun
It will work but he will wear his barrel out prematurely from the steel BB's against the steel barrel , a steel shot wad would be best
I am blaming this video for the 209 primers, powder measure and pyrodex I just bought. LOL
Awesome vid Dave. Keep it up brother.
That's awesome! I'm gonna use a double barrel for that reason. thank you for sharing the knowledge!
Could you use this technique on a 10 gauge side by side made in 1888 if the gun is in shootable condition? I picked up a J.N. Scotts with hammers just because it looks cool. Figured what the heck and try to make it shootable with the right black powder load. I'm all ears.....
Are you worried that those hard steel BBs will wear hard on your barrel or is this just a just in case skill, in other words do you regularly use this load
Hello Dave happy holidays to u and urs.
Awesome! Great instruction, thank you for taking the time to show us!
Been a while Dave, we need you now more than ever. Gotta teach this next generation some survival stuff... It looks more and more like we're gonna need it.
@alphawolfxxx86 in general, break actions(single or double barrel) would be best for this since there's no moving parts acting on the shell except for the ejector, the hitting of one shell on another in a magazine might degrade the condition of the shell since there's no crimp keeping it together anymore. if you don't have a break action, get on, you can buy them used and in great condition for as low as $40-$60 at flea markets, gun shops or gun shows, no reason to not get one if you want one.
I am enjoying these videos a great deal.
Thank you Dave.
And I did have a nice Thanksgiving...thanks. =D
Another excellent video Dave, fantastic series.
Very informative. I'm wondering, however, what the advantage of doing this is, as opposed to just taking more shells into the field? Seems like the weight would be the same except for the plastic casings for the extra shells. You're already carrying the powder and the shot. What am I missing?
Dave...awesome as usual...just one thing.
PYRODEX isnt a true black powder, what you got there is a SEMI SMOKELESS, and the best parts of BOTH powder types.
lower power level so safe for shotguns and pistols, but here's the cool part.
you can ALSO find loadings for 45 LONG COLT, and 45 ACP, since both were loaded to black powder pressure levels.
Cannot wait until You and Cody tear it up again, even my wife loves your series.
HOO AH, and keep your powder dry brother...
Seeya
Dude
I like loading BP for center-fire rifle & pistol. Have not tried shotgun as yet....The BP absorbs moisture, and I have ignition problems.... I dry the BP under an incandescent bulb, and use some 777 over the primer to get the Pyrodex ignited.
Dave great video i am really enjoying this longhunter series and hope to see many more.
First, I have to laugh at everyone telling you what you're doing wrong when clearly it works.
Second, a serious question: How would you make/substitute primers if you had none in a long term self-reliant situation?
Hey Dave, have you considered cutting down a old shell at 100 grains to use as a measure or a spare measure? It'd help keep the bbs from clogging up.
Great video btw.
Another great and timeless video!
sure it will work.i dont have much experience with 20ga (im more of a 12ga person)but start with a 50/50 load with 50 grains of powder and work your way up.you almost cant over charge a modern gun with black powder.
Thanks Dave 😁. Very informative brother 👍. I will be trying this out.
Happy thanksgiving to you and your family dave.
Dave this was a great how to video I have always wanted to know how this was done..... GREAT VIDEO!!!
How and when shoild the shotgun be cleaned after shooting black powder or pyrodex shells through it??
Pretty Cool - Thanks !
😎👍
Good video - well thought out, simple, well explained. My only thing to mention would be that true black powder is corrosive, and pyrodex doubly so. More than a few people out there don't know that, and don't know how to clean it out of their guns properly. Perhaps you mentioned it on the muzzle loader video, but I didn't notice it in this one.
Have you ever tried hot glue instead of wax? I mean when you carry them shells around in your pocket in very hot weather for some time, the wax might be melting and it would be a damn mess. Hot glue won´t melt from even the highest enviromental temperatures... and you can carry those glue sticks with ya just like a candle, so it can be done in the field, too. Hot glue would probably create even more resistance before the gases push the pellets outta the shell, thus increasing the pressure and you might have a few per cent more of a punch... a downside could be that the upper layer of pellets might stay together with the glue and come out as some kinda solid "bullet" but what the hell... there´s still enough pellets underneath that layer. Try and make a video :-)
Dave, I like your simple reloading kit. I have a Lee Loader Deluxe hand loading press.
I also agree with your opinion on using larger shot, more versitile, more humane on something big enough to not require a slug.
However, if I'm not mistaken, Ohio law forbids the use of anything bigger than #4 birdshot on game???
Dave, how many times can you relaod each shell before it starts damageing the brass?
Dave I have been looking for one of these magnets since you posted this video with no success where did you get yours?
The closest thing I could find was at menards online store as there is none near me and it was ceramic
Also what size is this magnet and the drilled hole thanks
Jason
Neat idea, how much powder did you use or how would you guestimate a quantity, I have an old Model 37 that I would like to try this with. Do you know if the brass shells used in cowboy action shooting would work just the same? Thanks
Love this series, but perhaps the volatility of black powder should be stressed to newer reloaders in that holding a flame so close to the workspace could be disastrous? The expansion volume may be lower than smokeless, but I believe the flammability & explosiveness may be higher. Any chance of showing us how to make an improvised powder in the field from easy to find stuff? Even then, I reckon the primers would be a limiting factor.
I have the same gun in .444. . . It was .44 mag, but I had a GS re-chamber it. They're a cheap gun, but I love the heck out'a mine.
To save from using the wax I wonder if there's some type of common cap or rubber plug that could be reused multiple times as long as you take it off before you fire it.
Hey, good stuff, this answers a lot of my why's from last video on this.
What's next? High pressure air bottle hooked to the back of the barrel ? ; )
I’m a little confused. Most of the BBs I find are steel coated with something else. Isn’t steel always a bad choice for older gun barrels, even if they are coated?
there were 39 holes in the target, but one seems like a couple pellets went in together, so you got it for sure lol
Sir, great video, as always, very informative.
My question is if that target was full of holes, and in a real life situation, could our teeth handle such "accuracy"? Were those bbs #6, or something else?
Thank you Sir, for your hard work in producing these types of lessons for us --> in-the-bush.
COME ON PEOPLE why would this video negate the idea of dropping a dislike? REALLY are you kidding me, the man is trying to teach us and your way of saying thanks is dislike, id have more respect for you if you would at least tell them man why you dislike the video! Dave thank you sir, you have taught me so much of the years i don't know how i ever could repay you!!!
Hey dave how much powder whould you put into a 2 3/4 in shell if your going to use a hard cast lead slug that ways 2.5 oz ive heard 32 grains of smokeless but I dont know what that equals in blackpowder
Got a few of those ol H&R's around the homestead, nice little guns bro. Loved the video. Thumbs up!~~John
man i LOVE this series
love your vids even got me one of your sling bows ,having said that you loading that primer looks hella dangerous I think if things really come to a head and gotta survive using Bush crafted methods I think I'll just put my Lee load all in my pack it's small won't take up much room plus by the time you load one your way I'll already have 25 made my way keep making the great vids tho much love to you brother
it has a removable handle sold everywhere usually red