Getting fired on gigs...
Вставка
- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
- I asked professional musicians for good gig etiquette + stories of people who got fired for bad etiquette!
I get a bunch of questions about gigs but I feel very under-qualified to answer them since I'm so young and inexperienced. Luckily I know plenty of musicians in town with literally thousands of gigs under their belt so I'm grateful they're willing to share their wisdom with me so I can share it with you guys! I'm really enjoying making these types of videos, so let me know if there's anything specific you'd want me to make a video like this on/you have any feedback for this style of vid. Thanks for watching!
Huge thank you to these awesome musicians for being a part of this video:
Ross Antonich: / ross_antonich
Joe Scheller: / schellerjm
Anton DeFade: / antondefade
J.D. Chaisson: / jdchaisson
Antonio Croes: / antonio_croes_
George Heid III: / georgeheidiii
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:21 Ross Antonich - 3 things you should always do
03:24 Gig nightmare story
05:22 Joe Scheller
08:09 The #1 rule...
9:20 Horn player things
12:04 The doorstop chicken story
13:03 Anton DeFade - It's not all about the music
13:54 Don't be like this saxophonist...
14:47 J.D. Chaisson - Why do you even want good etiquette?
16:16 Know your role
18:48 Antonio Croes - The importance of clear charts
19:11 George Heid III
21:05 Be monetarily fair
23:48 My gig etiquette tip
#musician #musicianlife
📱Socials:
Instagram: @foolishfrankie
TikTok: @foolishfrankie
Join my Discord server! / discord
Business Inquires: foolishfrankie@gmail.com - Розваги
I work in skilled construction and a lot of this translates into most industries. People would rather work with someone less skilled but easier to get along with than someone really skilled and hard to work with. Knowing the skills of the easy going person will get better with time
Dude yeah that makes so much sense!!
“It’s not battle jazz” love this advice
I know right!
A professor from a local college’s music performance program recently came to my high school to talk about getting a music performance diploma. They said never to take a gig if you’re not gonna be paid in cash. They said being paid in food isn’t acceptable, and they want their students to be payed fairly.
That’s why they’re a professor and not a working musician:)
I think a common misconception is that a musician is tied to a specific genre, like a “jazz” musician or a “rock” musician. This doesn’t have to be the case. As long as they have good understanding of their instrument, the genre, and the role their instrument plays, a musician should be able to put on different hats as the gig requires. It’s all about playing what’s appropriate for that gig.w
The censor sound you made with the downbeat of “Jazz Crimes” is genius.
LOL I’m glad someone noticed that🙈 Joshua Redman is one of Joe’s favorite saxophonists, so I figured it was fitting:)
@@FoolishFrankie so awesome. This whole vid was gold and I wish I had this kind of reference when I was a younger gigging musician but now at 31 knowing what I know and learning along the way it’s surprising the similarities we all share as musicians. I found myself nodding and smiling like someone remembering the old ways haha this was great stuff!
Ahh thank you so much that’s exactly what I’m going for!! I really appreciate you watching🙏🏻
I work in tech. Every bit of this applies to getting ahead at work in general. Amazing. Great video. I watched the whole thing as usual. This is very good content keep it up.
I really appreciate that!🙏🏻🙏🏻
This video is great, i'm interning at a studio as an aspiring engineer and a lot of this feels applicable to studio work as well!
I just recently found your videos, and i have to say you are putting out some great content man. Every video has a great combo of Humor, realness, and humility that really gives us a glimpse into your journey. Also you've got serious skills on your instrument. Keep up the great work!
This comment means so much, thank you🥺🙏🏻
Being positive and encouraging is a lifestyle. It can't be done only on the gigs.
loving these videos
very insightful
Thank you so much I’m going to try and make another in the near future!
Great advice. Thank you all.
Love the video, guys. I'm a hobbyist musician, but this all rings true (for any career, frankly!). Love the videos. Wish I was playing music with you guys!
Much love🙏🏻
As a player in band, i found very usefull, even if i doing almost all of my part, what i need to. Be positive, be organized, take care of other band members (even for minor things) and you and others will have a good time😄.
Great video. Has a behind the curtain feel. Super cool how there was a similar response. I subscribed. ❤thanks
🙏🏻🙏🏻
Top notch advice from top notch players and people!
🙌🏻🙏🏻
This was a great video!
Thank you so much I appreciate you watching it!!🙏🏻
Good work man!
Man thanks so much!🙏🏻
Best type of videos, i now know some gig etiquette
Thank you!! Stay tuned I have more on the way:)
The best advice I ever got was be prepared, be on time and be a great ensemble player.
Great stuff!
Thank you!!🙌🏻🙏🏻
Yeah that was a great video, interesting, well edited, no fat on the bone, thx!
Thanks for watching!🙏🏻
Don't be on time!!!! Be early!!!!!!!
Awesome video!
Man thanks so much for being a part of it!!🙏🏻
@@FoolishFrankie of course thank you!
Did you take a degree in music at all? If so what’s some of the benefits? What’s some of the downsides (like cost)? Do you see people who have music performance degrees getting hired much faster than others?
Just wanting to look into the information about getting a music degree. I’m lucky to have a good college that offers a music performance degree (and they have articulations with Berkley as well). I really want to take the music performance program, but it would cost 7k per year for two years. I’m also considering another career path as well and am considering minoring in music while pursuing nursing, but nursing probably wouldn’t leave much time to actually get out and do gigs. If post secondary was free I would do the music performance without a second thought (especially since they also do courses in music business). I still have a little over a year before I graduate high school, and I want to be well prepared for when I apply for post secondary. I’m also considering teaching as well, but I haven’t looked much into the schooling aspect of it. What would be your advice for considering music in post secondary, as the main field of study (I’m definitely gonna at minimum minor in music in university).
I dropped out of college. No one has ever asked to see my degree to play a gig. With that being said, leaving school is really hard and is not for everyone. Definitely don’t get a music performance degree if you’re going to come out with a lot of debt, that will make it much harder to play. Hope that’s at least a little helpful!
So many of these bullets points boils down too....don't be a jerk lol.
Yes!! Exactly why I wanted to leave them in even if they were repeated by multiple people. It really is important!
…and even though there’s a unanimous consensus somehow we still run into jerks often 😂😢
I dug the Mario music in the background.
Very good video ^_^
Thank you for watching🥺🙌🏻
How do you get gigs, and when should you start gigging? When I say "when" I'm referring to I guess a skill level or a level of ...preparedness (like should you learn every single standard first?) Also, what are some good ways to develop a better ear for improv and playing with a group of people you've never met?
Making a video on how to start gigging soon, stay tuned! You should start gigging as soon as you want, try to play anywhere you can even if it’s for free.
It's funny, a lot of the keys to being successful feel like they revolve around: can you play by other people's rules / expectations, are you reliable, and are you going to make an effort to get along with others.
Like, don't be a doormat but seriously think about what other people want and how you respond to that. Try to give people what they expect and reward their trust in you. And then resolve conflict with a lot of patience.
Can you get gigs playing a baritone saxophone or should you just stick to the more common tenor/alto sax when looking for gigs?
Definitely! Usually there are very few bari players in any given music scene, so if you can play bari well you’ll be the person everyone calls
Alcohol messes with time and tune = No go!!
Man i always wanted to learn sax but got assigned trumpet, soloing is my weakest and i would be tripping out if i had to learn on the spot like you do sometimes
It just takes a lot of doing it! You can do it too!
@@FoolishFrankie aha practice makes perfect i guess eh
Going ham over Mustang Sally; The Hero’s Path
Lol😂😂
That Anton guy has a solid haircut.😘
Almost as good as John Mayer’s!
🥲
what's going on with that couch around the 16 minute mark? is that the camera? is it a massage couch? is there a lot of bass in the room?
I think it was some kind of image stabilization processing, giving the impression of Eldredge horror. Thanks for the vid it was very informative.
Yes sorry it was stabilization! I didn’t have my tripod with me for that one so I was holding my camera and was sooo shaky. I figured it was better to stabilize it in post even if it looked weird cause without it it was hard to watch. Hope it wasn’t too distracting. Thanks for watching!!
cool
Thank you!
1st
2nd
My wife says I have thousands upon thousands dollars worth of equipment, I practice hundreds upon hundreds of hours, and I make tens upon tens of dollars
How do you get gigs?
Going to make a video on this in a few weeks stay tuned!
Hi
Hello!
Did you censor Joe (the sax player) with jazz crimes? 😂😂
LMAO yes Elastic is one of his favorite records 😂