1971 from a Bengali Perspective - A Tale of Millions of Rafiqul Islam -
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- Today on TPE Book Club we look at "A Tale of Millions" by Rafiqul Islam.
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@@ThePakistanExperience it would be a monumental event .
Views and Comments from the three countries will be record breaking
No nhi hoon hy...because of language barrier bw bangladesh and pakistan@@shatnermohanty6678
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Its unbelievable how the entire indian subcontinent got torn apart and left fighting for the rest of its existing days.
Entire? Are you including complete India?
@@DM-cy7hy India is left bearing the burden of these neighbor conflicts & hostilities. Till this day our soldiers are being killed by Pak infiltrators in Kashmir.
@@SuvaMukherjee yes, that is problem of certain mentality.
One retired family lawyer in Indonesia said in his book what he observed during his career.
The majority community in that country had mentality to keep on fighting the battle even not winning passing their battles to their future generations to continue.
The minority community had some wisdom to compromise, making things end and move forward so the burden of their battles never reach to their future generations.
Now from above story connect the dots of not just sub-continent, but conflicts going around the world.
It is not the "Indian Subcontinent". The Republic of India is just as much a colonial creation as Pakistan.
Sheikh Hasina(Daughter of Mujibur Rehman) visited Karachi for 1992 SAARC edition on special invitation by Benazeer Bhutto (Daughter of Zulfiqar Bhutto).
On being asked repeatedly why she dared to visit Pakistan for the first time after creation of Bangladesh, she said these exact words & I quote :- "A daughter of a Shaheed was invited by a daughter of another Shaheed to work for the real democracy & upliftment of the poors & I accepted her invitation gracefully " !!
Shaikh Mujeeb ur Rehman visited too before he was killed. He came to Lahore for OIC
And both Zulfikar Bhutto and Mujibur Rahman were followed by military dictators named Zia
Zia ul haq and Ziaur Rahman
I am a Bengali, born and bred. I was a final year student at Dhaka University during 1971. I opposed the secessionist movement because I considered the incipient Bangladesh to be a racist state that would lead to the ethnic cleansing of the Urdu-speaking Bihari minority. The slogan “Bengal for the Bengalis” is just as reprehensible as “America First” or “Britain First” and sure enough, it did lead to the ethnic cleansing of the Biharis (I remember a Guardian leader from about 1977 entitled “Five years of forgetting the Biharis” - you can dig it up from the archives, I’m sure). Regrettably, of course, the response of West Pakistan, in the form of the Pakistani military, was also racist and the fall of Dhaka on December 16 was its consequence. Objectively, one can see the events of 1971 as one of those rare instances where both sides were on the wrong side of history - West Pakistan choosing to fight a losing battle against a nationalist movement, and Bangladesh choosing to be an ethnically exclusionary state led by a demagogue whose hateful and divisive rhetoric was a preview of the US under Donald Chump. In the words of one Bengali academic, it was a case of “maximum stupidity on both sides”, with no one of sufficient stature who could have poured humane reason on inflamed passions. But that would have been difficult in any event, with India hovering menacingly in the background. After the 1965 war, when India was badly bloodied by the Pakistan Air Force, it decided to take revenge by stoking separatist tendencies in East Pakistan. It armed, trained and hosted the Bengali militants, and even used its own Border Security Force in cross-border raids. I guess from their point of view it was all worth it (although they still had to depend on the Soviet veto in the UN Security Council). But it’s funny to see the Indians bellyaching about Pakistan using exactly the same tactics now in Kashmir. All in all, the events of 1971 were one of the most harrowing episodes of the second half of the 20th century. And the consequences were just as baleful - a hubristic India went nuclear in 1974, with Pakistan quite understandably following suit. We don’t yet know how this will end, but the outlook is not sunny.
Sir what about hindu minority in present😊
U have so much discrimination within and u r worried about America first and Britain First parallelism with Bangladesh.
600-700 Bangladeshi Hindus leave Bangladesh everyday.
start constructing your own country with more in touch with reality instead of unrealistic high expectations.
@@raheelakhtar7 😢you killed Punjabi Hindus in Rahim Yar khan
@@Vans374 I m Hindutvadi from India , from a place near Bangladesh.
however , i can bet @user-qk3qe8we1c would be one of the supporters of Pakistan , rather than , one of those leftist liberal that u envision him to be.
my point of criticism is him bleeding for Biharis rather than the religious minorities of Bangladesh which at current rate of leaving the country , will not be left by 2047.
my point of criticism is him bringing nationalism , which is not that big of a problem in grand scheme of things(rather that will be a good thing for Bangladesh)
besides , India did not go nuclear for the fear of Pakistan(conventional war) but it being made to realize that it will be destroyed at any day if it does not go nuclear as demonstrated by the USA and Uk in 1971 , another reason was China being already nuclear, another reason was pakistan working on nuke - proof - pakistan developed her own nuke within 14 days of India developing it(if it was not already nuclear then how come it developed it in so less time)
@@rtyuhsgjjzbbwj F off. I haven’t hurt a soul. Seek therapy.
I am so glad we are talking about this! We have no acknowledgment in Pakistan studies about the separation of East Pakistan. Through knowledge and acceptance we can grow.
There was a street named Ayub Gate which is located at Mohammadpur, Dhaka due to had a great success against India in 1965. But again revolution took place in 1969 and a student was killed Asad. Since then, the name of the street is Asad Gate.
Sabse zyada zulm east pakistan ki hinduyon pe hua.
Bakwas
News source Whatsapp university..
Source trust me bro 😂
Need a full video on 1965 War East pakistan and it's aftermath
Also
Why didn't India attack East pakistan in 1965 ?
Because India was responding to a Pakistani invasion in Kashmir.
Pakistan assumed that crossing LOC would not be treated by India as same as “international boundary” (why Ayub sir thought that - “Kyunki Hindu Baniya Darpok hota hai” .. mind it, baniya caste represents less than 5% of Indian population, Indian PM was a Kayastha and Army Chief was a Bengali; lack of IQ is a common problem in Pakistan Army)
India decided to cross international border in Punjab to release the pressure on Kashmir. Its objective was not land grab. Lahore on the line mattered much more to Pakistan army than Dhaka would have been.
@@MrPrabhatRastogi also Ayub " sir" thought with the passing away of PM Nehru , India is weak .
But we had ready replacement in Lal Bahadur Shastri .
pakistan was dependent on one person Jinnah
But India had many leaders apart from Nehru like Ambedkar Patel Shastri
Bengal has always been the land of resistance. Long live Bengal.
What's the use of resistance if there is no peace?
You will find this information interesting:
The name of the colonel mentioned by you who had said that he did not see any military action taking place was Lt Col Abdul Rasheed Janjua, who was the commanding officer of 8 East Bengal Regiment posted in Chittagong. He was picked up from his residence in the evening by his second in command, the then Major Zia ur Rehman (the husband of Khalida Zia) in his sleeping suit, taken to his office and shot there by Maj Zia.
Secondly, in March 1971 Rafique ul Islam was a Captain serving in East Pakistan Rifles (the paramilitary force in East Pakistan equivalent to the then West Pakistan Rangers). On the night of 25/26 March he was given/took over command of 11th and 14th Wings of East Pakistan Rifles in Chittagong. He had about 300 West Pakistani servicemen serving in these two wings and their arrested. They were massacred the next day.
Wow
Embalming truth of partition. Bongs went through a lot around those times.
Peace.
No need to search any documents or stories everything was on Pakistani News paper if you could not get than try British news paper and BBC commentary and comments is still in the archives
finally the book club is back!!!!!!
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Please read these two books.
1. RAW and Bangladesh by Mr. Zainal Abedin, a senior Journalist of Bangladesh and published by Fatema Shahad in November 1995.
2. RAW in Bangladesh by Abu Rushd, a former military officer turned seasoned journalist.
You are overlooking the 3days meeting with Yayha Khan and Bhutto in Larkana I was witness and read the newspapers . I will advice you to get all 6 months newspapers
Did Quide Azam tell Bangali people not to speak Bangla? He only told them that Pakistan's national language would be Urdu, and it is not in East Pakistan, but in whole Pakistan
Why should it be Urdu when Bangla was the language of the more than half of the population?
@TZovro it is not the question of most spoken language in Pakistan, but the language that can be easily comprehended by most Pakistani people,
@@Nice-d5d My argument still stands. The majority of Pakistanis could not comprehend or read Urdu, especially the Bangalees were the single absolute majority
@TZovro no dear come out from your well. Most of Pakistani can easily comprehend Urdu, and if you go abroad, the same Bangali fluently speak Urdu.
Urdu was not familiar to the people of east Pakistan which was thousands of kilometers way. Why they should learn a foreign language for official work when it easily could be fixed by making both as state language. Imagine India forcefully imply Hindi as only state language over Tamil or Telegu people. Or imagine what if Bangla was forced as only official language. How hard it would be learn a new language. When you had an easy solution to make it both. The thing was not what he said, the thing was the mentality not to accept the culture of other region, not recognising their identity.
Also read Behind the Myth of Three Million by Bengali Bengali Nationalist
M. Abdul Mu'min Chowdhury
Will open people’s eyes to the lies (that most accept as the truth without any thought) that have been perpetuated by Sheikh Mujeeb and co as well
Mujib was a evil man
*Reality Check of Asian countries in 2024*
*Pakistan - Most Unstable*
*Afghanistan - Unstable*
*Nepal - Unstable*
*Myanmar - Unstable*
*Shri Lanka - Unstable*
*Maldives - Unstable*
*Bangladesh - Unstable*
And
*China - Most Stable*
*India - *Stable*
*India has to survive in such a situation in Asia,We are blessed with a strong Democracy despite various Internal and external challenges*
*If agree upvote*
*Ready to give my observation on any country's issue in civilised way*
lol as a Hindu Indian woman, we might be politically stable but let’s not deviate from all these countries and focus on the massive shit show happening in our country right now with regard to the bengal doctor’s rape! Instead of trying to one up Pakistanis on UA-cam, please correct t yourself and the men around you to treat women as people and not objects. Jai shree ram 🙏
@@riyadubai Correct, Being better than Pakistan is not an achievement. we still have maids, istriwala, dhobi walas and they should be re-skilled to do proper manufacturing jobs like they do in China
@@riyadubai *LOL*
*For this you need to raise your voice in West Bangal against CM Mamata Banerjee who is Hindu heater and Muslim lover and enjoying power without responsibilities*
*For everything you can't held responsible for center govt*
*I am very. much happy in Raigad with my Maharashtra govt*
*Jai Hind*
*Jai shree Ram*
🙂A typical delusional BIMARU-GUJJU sanghi fanatic entity!
Sand is shifting under the feet .... Just try to "smell" the reality in non-cow-belt states....
Instability is overrated. Italy has had 45(?) prime ministers in 60 years. It still has a higher GDP per capita than Stable India.
Bro please hire a video editor now that you are earning and show graphical timelines of events that you are explaining.
Agree. Mr. Shahzad Ghias you have good knowledge make it more Graphical rep like Faisal Warriach did in Dsj. Both of them are my favourite
Primarily Pakistani army attack Bangladeshi Bengali Hindu and also muslim bengali.
Primarily LINDU Saaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr !
@@shereebangla primarly musla saaaarrrr
Every Pakistani should Know the History For their prosperity ✊
History NeVer Lies✊
Pakistan and Bangladesh are as similar or different as Pakistan/ India or Bangladesh / India . If one makes an effort any human from the subcontinent can fit in and live a happy life with Eskimos in Iceland and if you want to find reasons to part ways, a mother and child can find reasons to drift apart and turn hostile. Humans need oxygen, water, food, shelter and clothing to survive and as social beings, a group for security, propagation and companionship. Art, culture, religion, customs and laws are appropriations to enhance sophisticated management systems of large numbers
We r in no way linked to either nations they're failed states nd shall continue to fail
India prospers due to middle class values of education not Sar tan se juda
3:10 In GHQ the official narrative was that ‘The defence of East Pakistan lay in the defence of West Pakistan. The sheer stupidity of this doctrine needed only for India to close its air space in 1971 to be laid bare. A tragedy of errors indeed!
Nice one MA
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Podcast with Hafiz Saad Hussain Rizvi Plz Plz plz
As always a very good video but quite dense which is natural given the subject. Maybe introduce some visuals to aid comprehension and retention?
On it. Wait for our 14th August video
Perhaps you missed mentioning that in the meeting of February 21, 1971, East Pakistan Governor Vice Admiral Ahsan and Commander Eastern Command & DMLA Lt.Gen. Sahibzada Yacub Khan opposed any use of force.
Ahsan was removed on February 28, and Yacub resigned on March 4, when Yahya refused to visit Dacca.
Both Yahya and Bhutto were not prepared to let the Bengalis rule over East Pakistan.
Wrong there.
Yaqoob resigned on the 15th of March when Yahya told him to launch operation Searchlight.
Bhutto had brought Mujeeb to the table. The talks were ongoing and succeeding from March 20th to March 25th.
Yahya started the military operation against East Pakistani people on the 25th without warning.
Yahya derailed the talks
@@ghazisoodhun6906 you may stick to your opinion
4:46 very good point. Bookmarked for the naysayers!
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I'll never understand why always Pakistanis or Indians think they can picture Bangladeshi POV without ever having a conversation with Bangladeshis!!???
When it's mostly your own understanding even with their best effort.
I'm not attacking anyone. But Shehzad, you seriously should consider bringing Bangladeshi Voice for a change sometimes. Just like you often do with Indians.
Why would you comment without watching?
@@ThePakistanExperience I've watched this. And then expressed my opinion.
So you know it’s a Bengali POV because I tell you what a Bengali wrote?
It wasn’t my POV
@@ThePakistanExperience And you still didn't understand what I said.
News paper from August 1970 to December 1970
With all due respect it’s ٹکا Khan and not تکا Khan 🙏
You’re right
@@ThePakistanExperience perks of having studied Pak Studies in Urdu ✌️
Amazing goku can combine ikari and ssj
When landed in Lahore what mr Bhutto said “ Pakistan safe”
Yet Nusrat Bhutto herself said "No , The army operation will eliminate Awami league and then come after PPP and NAP in West Pakistan ".
After that PPP opposed it and got the operation ended by May.
Dead Reckoning By Sharmila boss, the best book by independent journalist on Bangladesh,,,
She is an ISI funded entity.
Someone who was cited repeatedly by Lal Topi? No thanks!
The current generation is more conscious; I don't believe in marginalising the entire nation and being put in a guilt and inferiority complex or being held responsible for what happened in the 71 war. Actual culprits shall be held responsible
Rafiqul spelling mistake.
Fixed. Thanks
Your Urdu is improving shehzad👍🏻
“Unees so fifty two” though 😅
Hahahaha
Sir please do a video on harassment cases in Islamabad Club
Will wait for credible news reporting on it
@@ThePakistanExperience it has been covered by Hum English and Daily Ausaf. Not sure how credible these are but that's how I found out.
That Pic of Mujubir and Bhutto always says a lot: the body language: Bhutto sitting with aplomb as a "superior" and Mujibur leaning forward "asking for something or pleading"...
You’re reading too much into a picture
@@ThePakistanExperience
I should have indicated I was commenting on the pic as a satire ...am sure at that time serious negotiations would have taken place
Pakistani History comes from ISPR, Rawalpindi 🤣🤣
uhhh Rafiqul Islam? he was the MP of my constituency.....until the recent revolution
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Shehzad, thanks for being polite when you responded to my comments about WestPakistani industrialists setting up jute factories in East Pakistan.
I repeat that I do not consider them heroes at all. I consider them normal businessmen thriving in a capitalistic society. I also said that the jute factories set up by them generated economic activities in that region and created employment opportunities, and they might have proven helpful for the newly created state of Bangladesh. Otherwise, they would have had to set up jute factories from scratch which would have proven quite expensive.
You might not have taken these points under consideration.
You don’t have to, we are told they are the heroes, they made Pakistan and we should be indebted to them.
@@ThePakistanExperience
You have not commented on whether setting up jute mills was beneficial for the economy of the region or not.
Instead of setting up jute mills in East Pakistan they could have set up cotton mills in the Western Wing, and employment opportunities would have improved in West Pakistan.
What west pakistani industralists, they were mostly biharies migrated from west bengal during 1947.
@@ThePakistanExperienceYou are the only one who was told that😂😂😂
@@saleemnaqvi2200you have no ideas about the cotton industries in pak😂😂😂 what a shame
😂😂😂 Aur koi book nahi mila! Rafikul Islam has his own version of the entire thing where he is the main hero.
Why not when your hero is suvvar yazid
Dont say bangali they get offended. Say. Bangladeshi
What were they before 1971 if not Bengali?
True it also de links Indian bengalis from All this mess
@@vatsal0075majority of Bengalis live in Bangladesh so you can't ask to not refer them as Bengali mr
lol. we are ethnically bengali and nationally bangladesh. why should we be offended in calling us bengali?
@@jijijijijjjiijijijjjjj ask ur people. Good to know u understand
And what about Indian military personnel disguised as local bengalis attacking the Pakistan army through ambushes across the water streams and conducting hit-and-run missions, pretending to raise local resentment and hatred and consequently Pakistan army retribution against them fueling already abysmal security meltdown??
Your whole perspective is prejudiced against the state of Pakistan and downplaying indian sinister role to exploit this vulnerability to settle the score.
Officially indian army launched a military assault on the 04th of December but their covert operations under KAO RAW chief began way before the general elections of 1970 or maybe before 1968 onwards.
11:02 why someone popularly elected to become PM of united Pakistan wants to breakaway from united Pakistan?
Mujeeb didn’t win from West Pakistan
Because for people in west pak, the four provinces, it was an election, for United east Pak it was a referndum on independence, the bengali parties had already decided that Mujib and his party would lead them into independent state, by the way mujeeb slogan at election rallies used to be long live bangla,and his theme, independence from pakistan.
@@ThePakistanExperience What you mean? then No one should become PM of Bakistan unless he/she gets majority seats in the each of the 4 Bakistan provinces.
@@Vans374 Mujeeb did blunder by creating Bangaldesh. He should have become PM of United Pakistan with Bongla as official langugage -as urdu is a suvvar language
Unese soo fifty two 😂my boy you are a real legend
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@@ThePakistanExperience thank you for your work seriously when i see you i see hope in Pakistan
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Gandhiji ne ham Sako azadi dilayi thi bande ko 40 cr ka support tha unko ko izat dedo kabhi plzzz
So what explains BD populace's eternal love for Pakistan and infernal hatred of India?
Let no one kid himself - Muslims are a nation, even if they are in Antarctica. Hindus are divided, even if they live in the same house.
Bakwas....Muslims have spilled more Muslim blood then others have.
ایسا ہی ایک پروگرام فلسطین پہ کر اسرائیلی perspective سے
Arey Anchor Bhai Aap Pakistaniyo ko Bohat Hi Ashi History padayi Gayi Hai, lekin Maaf karna Bo History sachi Nahi Hai.History ke Naam par Aap ki school Book,s Me Juth Bhar Diya Gaya, school Me Ashe students Teyar Karne ki Bajaye Pakistan Ne Apne schools Me Nafrati Jihadi or katrta Se Bhare zombies Teyar Kiye or Abhi Bi kar Raha Hai
Unees So fifty two hahaahha
Hahahaha I tried
Kya bakwaas hai. . . U r biased. . . Unsubscribed u
Jaa na
Pakistani Punjabion ne Dhaka mein daka daal diya.