I Dedicate this Pug Mythic+ key Review to my Best Friend
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
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It's really difficult, right now to adequately express my appreciation for all the ❤ and support. Not only through this video but over the years as well. So i will simply say thank you, and let you all know This isn't the end of Kop. I'll be back. 😉
Get well soon my friend!
It's good to see people actually propping up their friends in today's society. Hope he has a swift recovery.
Thanks for saying that. He deserves it. He's a better man than I.
Gotta say I always enjoy dropping in on Kops streams, his personality and sheer good nature always shines through. Hope he's well soon, thinking of him from this tiny corner of England.
His attitude and nature are rare today. I love seeing it, and hope we get to see it again soon.
Kop is a real one for coming on here and being open about his "tanking anxiety". Something I think affects a lot of people. Him overcoming or atleast dealing with it was really cool. Wish for his speedy recovery!
@@Erik_Arnqvist ya you are totally right about that.
Wish there was more friends like you
Means a lot thanks!
Thoughts and prayers to Kop! Here’s to a swift recovery! ❤
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Absolutely!
Praying for our friend hope he gets better soon sending him all the well wishes and hugs in the world
He gets 15 hugs from me. That's enough, don't want to spoil him.
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I hope Kop is out of the hospital soon. I know what it's like to deal with lifelong health issues. Having support is very important and he's lucky to have a good friend like you.
@@SoleaGalilei thanks so much for saying that. He has good people around him irl too from what I can tell.
The only reason I can think of is that when the tank walked up on the rocks it caused the boss to be unable to reach the tank (evade bug), so it decided to hit the second highest on the threat (being the melee dps).
@@Stormfire-ce2xf apparently he shadowmelds!
Thanks for the update Metro, I've been concerned for him lately. Kop is just genuinely a good person. Always helpful, always hopeful, always humble. It's been inspiring to see his progress as a player especially if your aware of the physical limitations he's dealing with. Credit to you too, Metro for all the help and motivation you've given him over the years. Can't wait for his triumphant return.
Ya he really is a good guy.
The boss melee was perhaps from the tank's rubberbanding into the wall/scenary which put him out of range for a split second - so Kops is the next nearest target and gets melee'd.
Ya I thought that too. Apparently he shadowmelds. I didn't think that was on the table because I assumed shadowmeld would shift you from bear form but I guess it doesn't.
So sorry to hear about the unlucky circumstances, hope he has a smooth recovery and you both have a good TWW launch my dude
Thanks!
All my prayers go to your buddy on this day my friend - I usually don't even attempt to skip both packs after the drop down - I just pull the hyena pack onto the bear with the birds .. most pugs end up pulling something anyhow
Thanks!
The bear druid was a night elf. I'd say he has hit Shadowmeld causing the melee hit to Kop
@@cheatdeathproc looks like it!
Best wishes for your friend's speedy recovery. Been watching you since @Growl reviewed one of your pug disband compilation vids. You always have a way of reminding me to laugh at the pug stuff instead of getting tilted. Keep it up.
Thanks so much. That's so great to hear that you are able to laugh instead of getting mad. Crucial skill!
So sweet! We're thinking about you Kop!!
@@Lunarae-y7j absolutely are!
I believe with the way the tank was moving, it could be a pathing bug and the boss just couldn't hit the tank. Just like with grounded bosses, if the tank gets out melee range, it will just f... up whoever is in melee range. Best wishes for Kop! Thank you for the video and thank you for being a very good friend :)
Thanks for saying so! Apparently he shadowmelds. I didn't catch it because I always assumed shadowmeld would shift you out of bear form.
Best wishes to Kopp, hope it all goes well whatever the issue is.
Honestly with the Kopp melee it seems like it has to be a bug as he still had provoke on cooldown. He did seem to want to punch on with the Treant (and did the frontal there) until the tank collected him again so maybe there was an interaction with that? Maybe Kopp was next on the threat list being melee and because the guy was having connection or latency issues for that split second he was "micro DCed" the threat went to Kopp. That's all I got, is the video on Kopp's channel as i'd love to do some more frame by frame diagnostics.
@@Bunstonious he records all his runs too and has his own spreadsheet so it's there somewhere for sure.
@@heythereguysitsMetro Heck yeah, I might look it up.
If the tank is not attackable, mobs will switch to whoever is second on aggro or reset. Sometimes they will teleport to the tank. That is why tanking on rocks and other objects you have to jump to get on top of is not a great idea.
@@sirdiealott agreed. Seems everyone is saying he shadowmelded though.
@@heythereguysitsMetro he doesn't go transparent though that I can see, but it does happen just as he starts rock climbing.
@@sirdiealott ya idk either.
For the last boss, I agree that it must have been shadowmeld. If it was the rock then the threat would not behave like it does.
You can see on the unitframes that after he gets meleed, the threat swaps to the Evoker. Then the threat swaps back to the tank during the attack animation while the tank is still on the rock. If the rock was evading it, the taunt would have failed. He would have had to get off the rock to get the boss back, which he didn't do.
@@Rattja ya I didn't see that evoker part. I hadn't realized you can shadowmeld in form so that was the issue.
Actually, if you look closely at the ?, you will not only see there is a space between "what" and the ?, there is also a space in front of his "???". For the last part, I'm not sure what happened there, but I have pulled threat as WW off bears before, even bosses sometimes when they aren't hitting their rotation properly. Or the bear could have shadowmelded. Or the wall could be buggy. Anyways, I hope Kop gets well soon, I love dropping by his streams.
Ya apparently he shadowmelds. Good catch on the ? thing haha
Metro, you're an absolute gem. Sending healing vibes to Kop.
@@Ninja40K thank you so much!
The priest actually gripped the healer during the small clouds on last boss lol
@@Jonseemann you mean when they both die? Doesn't look like that to me.
I saw this one live, the bear druid used SHADOWMELD which is why Kopp got hit with melee. Kopp checked details on the wipe after the key and confirmed it. Get well soon, Kopp!
Some how my shadowmeld got swapped with darkness on my action bars, so last night in a key on a big pull I suddenly melded lol. Thankfully no one died I was able to catch it and snap aggro back really quickly as it was early on in the pull but ouch... I felt so dumb lol.
Oh really? I don't see him shift. Are you able to shadowmeld and stay in form then?
@@heythereguysitsMetro yes
You can even further confirm this in the clip itself, after ending Kop the boss does not go back to the tank but instead goes to the evoker and the only reason the evoker lives is because the boss goes into his frontal cast (which is also aimed at the evoker). So the tank clearly dropped aggro completely and the only way to do that there is shadowmeld.
@@ThomasBachler01 Got it, good catch. Really just shocked you can shadowmeld while in form.
Get well mate with love from Sydney Australia ❤
Thanks!
In the screenshot where the monk died. The Evoker instantly had aggro. Curious if the druid tank used shadowmeld and dropped aggro.
@@mbailey314 ya that's gotta be it.
Really hoping you feel better ASAP Kop, we miss you!!
@@WritesFantasy we certainly do!
I can understand a little bit that wait by the gate move by the tank after the 3rd boss. because if you are fast enough when it opens, you can grab that Rotsinger mob before he runs all the way up the ramp. It is very annoying if you dont have a grip to move him into the giant pack at the bottom.
You can just interrupt it. Been doing it on my warrior no problem. All the mobs can easily move up to him.
But ya I get ya. Still, like 15 seconds of doing nothing is not worth this small optimization.
Melee vs last boss was very likely bear fat-finger on the shadowmeld. (Assuming they are night elf).
All the best to Kop !
@@Kouros_ttv ya seems that way!
11:57 after killing Kop the boss does his frontal towards the evoker. So I bet the tank just bugged himself out by moving to much up the wall and loosing aggro to that somehow
Seems like shadowmeld apparently.
So, looks like on the last boss, the totem has 4.17M hp that is worth about 3% of the bosses HP. When that first totem spawned after everyone died, they were at 15%. So had they stayed on boss, it wouldve been 12%.
They did eventually wipe at 8% so that 3% wouldve meant a boss kill but who knows if they wouldve survived to 8% in the first place without killing the totem.
I do agree with you though, If I was in that position, I am 100% calling to ignore the totem and send every thing you got into boss, and exhaust all defensives.
Ya you at least gotta TRY. There is a zero percent chance to kill this boss within the timer by switching. That should be clear on the fly.
Get better soon kop, been missing your streams. Don’t worry about missing the beginning of the expansion I’m sure there will be much needed tuning and when you get back it might all be fixed!
haha ya gonna be a mess of a launch anyway.
Feel better, Kop. Sending good voodoo your way
@@loganboyd10 you and me both!
I think the bear melded. Can’t think about anything else
@@TheeSeeker ya that seems to be it.
Also metro love the gotta keep dpsing punches lol
ya they were vicious strikes. Practicing for my upcoming boxing match
Love these big first pulls in Brackenhide in low keys. You can just tell straight up the tank isn't of big enough caliber to actually stop pulling hunters, which are absolutely not needed, yet make the pull significantly more difficult. xD Instead of just doing something that doesn't demand any coordination (normal pull). Many times they can't survive their own pull + need to rely on pug to 100% for sure kick the 2nd fear. Hard pass for a pug pull :D
About the tank rushing when the 3rd boss is low - it's actually good stuff. It means he can pull the caster when he's still close to the rest of the packs he wants to pull. 99% of times people don't do it and it makes one mob stand behind and free cast. If the tank doesn't pull there instantly, you need like 2 kicks and 2 knockbacks to actually bring him to the pack, or bring the pack to him and tank it on the bridge, which is pretty tight.
Hmm well would you say he does that in this footage?
I see what you mean, but he is just not doing damage for like 15 seconds. There is no way that's optimal.
@@heythereguysitsMetro Yea, never said he was a good tank. So maybe he tried doing what I mentioned, yet it became a parody, like the first pull. :d
Pretty sure the reason that Kop got killed (the evoker is just lucky to not die as the boss started a cast instead of melee) was the bear walking into the stones making the boss not having a path or something like to the tank, so they choose the closest melee/aggro. No idea why he was trying to get onto the rocks at all, not really needed.
And the tp'ing around is a desync issues, happends randomly when you die and you see it alot during Race to World First and its fixed by doing a /reload on the person glitching around.
@@yngve9470 seems he might have shadowmelded.
@@heythereguysitsMetro Yeah, guess that is also a possibility. Sadly nobody in the group logged the run on warcraftlogs. That said, I've personally died from tanks walking onto weird stuff and mobs just smacking me in the face as the closest melee, which is why I thought that first.
Dang, I'm sorry to hear about Kop!
To Kop: I don't know if you read these comments or not, but I'll be thinking about you and I hope you have a swift and complication-free recovery! I'm looking forward to more ridiculous keys from you -- I don't know how you always find yourself in those wild situations :)
I hope he will read them!
Much love to Kop! Hope he gets well soon!
@@kalivann8409 I also have much love.
Tank was NE so maybe he accidentally pressed meld or he was in a spot where he was out of reach from the boss, usually mobs just port to you if you are but bosses can’t do it so he’s hitting the next target
If you shadowmeld in bear form, does it shift you out?
@@heythereguysitsMetro I know it didn’t in cat last time I played it so I would assume the same
@@RealCecilion Ya I heard for years about why it was hard to use for feral.
my best wishes to your fren, hope he recovers well and soon !! :3
Thank you!
Sending thoughts and prayers!!!
@@iClawzELiTe thanks!
Damn, sucks to hear about your friend in the hospital. Hope he gets well soon.
I also hope this.
Hoping swift recovery for you Kop.
same
prob the boss cant channel his frontal into the rocks/glitching bear on the rocks so the q moves to the next available target
Seems like he shadowmelds!
Best of luck to your best friend. I wish him a speedy recovery! He'll only miss the "hell weeks" anyways ;) Those were nothing works right and everything is overtuned (except for the class Ion plays).
Ya I guess thats a good point. I still wouldnt never want to miss those though!
@@heythereguysitsMetro I'll level a couple of alts i guess. But if things aren't smoothed out i won't tank any dungeons except for people i know.
@@peterpain6625 Things will never be so unsmooth that you can't just play how you find the most fun.
Yeah tank probably caused a frame there where he was unattackable so next highest threat ate it. (similar to standing on the brazier in HoV for the wolf pack)
Hope Kop gets better soon!
Ya that's gotta be it. Some one said he shadowmelded but I don't see it.
@@heythereguysitsMetro was thinking that too, he became (evading)for boss so he turned, but damn that was damn fast and hit him hard!!! ouchies
Can def say that he shadowmelded on first pull Wratheye, he flashes for a couple frames in shadows, and doesn't use any attacks for 1 global. its very short, and i bet it was an accident, but ya, it was shadowmeld.
Yup, looks that way. Good catch!
Stay strong Kop and keep rolling with the punches!
Rolling with the punches. Amazing pun tbh.
Was the bear a night elf and used shadowmeld? If not, probably those rocks were like all the snap spots everyone finds in dungeons like dht and Fall last season and it triggers a fervent strike. Mandatory team in the season 3 mdi lost a dungeon to this same effect when their healer got to close to the mobs the tank was intentionally trying to snap by standing on a rock next tot he tree boss and the healer got to close and got turned on and melee'd because that's for some reason a side effect of spots like that
@@Wand422 ya it was shadowmeld!
🙏for Kop to get well soon
lettuce pray
Priest/druid i think they may have broken gear or under geared (low hp)
@12:05. I think that rock evade bugged the tank where the boss couldn't path to auto the tank so he hit the 2nd highest threat in melee. Because when the tank moves again closer it goes back to him.
That's my best guess on it
ya I'm thinking that too.
it was definitely shadowmeld. You can see this "blink" / fade effect that's a shadowmeld. Provoke is not even in your friend's spellbar :)
nonetheless, many deaths from obviously silly mistakes. sadge
Provoke is, I show it in the screenshot. Can you confirm that you can shadowmeld while in bear form without shifting?
@@heythereguysitsMetro Can confirm, that you can meld while in bear form, does not remove you from bear form, maybe he has a macro and is unaware
@@asasdsaasda Got it, really shocked to learn that. That must be it!
Oofta. I'm guessing Kop has really bad vision? His UI is actively sabatoging him regarding them traps early on for example. I know Quazii's Plater profile has voicepacks enabled for important casts and abilities which is crazy helpful. Regardless, what a hilarious key. FWIW the druid might've fatfingered shadowmeld on the last boss, which would immediately drop threat onto Kop.
@@pandeomonia I said he has vision problems in the review.
First mistake of the key was inviting ANYONE from Rag.
Well there are two, and the tank is party leader so good chance its one of their's keys.
maybe tank shadowmelded on last boss
seems that way
LMAO ! ! ! Bitenhousen
@@mikevance8410 haha
Maybe tank used shadowmeld?😂
@@icswack6015 seems so
I had a 10 or 11 last night with incorp spiteful and an azralon tank. It lasted 14 minutes and double digit deaths. Dude never took his finger off W and then blamed the healer for not opening cages 😂 said GG and ran out after never letting us open them lmao
Those are the ones you want to record!
The tank most likely shadow melded and lost aggro because of it.
You can shadowmeld and stay in bear form?
@@heythereguysitsMetro Yes, you can shadowmeld and stay in that form in any druid form except flying and maybe aquatic (not sure about that one)
if the tank is night elf he meybe missklicked shadowmend
ya seems thats what he did
Weird, Maybe the bear was lagging so hard he somehow was untargetable by the boss when he walked up on the rocks causing him to evade and swap targets? Longshot guess
haha maybe!
*Viscious Claw Mangle*
VICIOUSCLAWMANGLE
I play Bear and absolutely cannot believe that with 2 druids in the group no one soothes the Warscourge's ragestorm.....? In BH I always make sure I have soothe and am the one to kick the hideous cackle. Poor druid play imho. I guess I didn't watch far enough...apparently there were a few soothes, but no reason for that to go off ever with two druids.
Ya I don't play druid but I think by now everyone realizes you can just stand at max range and attack anyway. Kinda defeats the purpose of removing it.
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@@eeveill13 glad to see you!
You don't understand man... you don't dive under the barrier at the start to save time but to show the other plebs in the key that you have the superior knowledge!
Haha well that doesn't surprise me at all!
I wish all the best to kop healthwise.
But from watching his gameplay. Man I don't know, but for a guy that has a similar playtime as me hes really not that good.
Let's see some of your runs. Happy to review them.
@@heythereguysitsMetro Sure when I have the time to play again I'll send you a run of an 11 key.
That jajaja drives me insane. I see it all the time when playing Smite. Player must be from LATAM.
Ya I don't really get what it means. It's become a meme for people making fun of latam players but they actually say it? I almost never see it.
@@heythereguysitsMetro It's their way of laughing. Either "jajaja" or "yayaya." You will rarely hear it unless they are partnered with another person from the region.
@@jowston100 they will still use things like lol too I guess right? Just not "hahaha" which is rarer anymore anyway
“He’s from Ragnaros so nobody is surprised” was that necessary? Server discrimination is already bad. I’ve legit gotten declined from REMIX groups thanks to being from Ragnaros.
Yes it was necessary. If you have a problem leave the server. Sorry, but the reputation is not an accident.
No matter what . Anybody pulling any hunters in this key shouldn't be playing in the firsr place. There not needed super avoidbale and shall i say more ?
Silly take for an 11. It's not relevant at this key level at all. Ironically we have a whole video about that from a few weeks ago!
@@heythereguysitsMetro Agreed, I play with a coordinated group and we pull them, but we are only doing 11-12ish keys, never had a problem.
@@bovinelair And you never will. I pull the same route as this and upgraded it on both 15 fort and tyran with no issues. People act like them one shot you every cast and they aren't stoppable at all.