Nevernight (Spoiler Free) | REVIEW
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- In which I discuss my spoiler free thoughts on Nevernight by Jay Kristoff...
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"our main character Mia,is an actual assassin that kills people"...ehhehehehhe.... THE SHADE
I smell ToG xD
Lookin' at you, Celaena.
This book was SO GOOD that the problematic bits were a non-issue for me. (And I know that's not going to be the case for everyone.)
And speaking of Jay Kristoff, Aurora Rising comes out in May and I'm dyyying! 😊😁
I started Nevernight a couple of months ago & got to the 🐴 & 🐙 when I got some Dune vibes. Had put off reading Dune & then finally picked it up to nibble. I’m still early in the 1st book [Duke Leto is still alive & Marshaling his forces]. It’s true what you say about the Nevernight chronicle starts in familiar formulas. Formulas work well enough for the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The decisions made for this world are bonkers & great. As I thought about it, the parallels between Nevernight & Dune convinced me Dune is just as much a fantasy as sci-fi. 🐛= 🐉.
Hush is a male and he was disfigured as well...
Ally Vegan he was described as beautiful though, not grotesque like the women. We don’t even find out about his situation until later, it’s only said once, and then his beauty is still emphasized. The women are discussed as grotesque almost whenever they are on the page. It’s not the same.
@@ThoughtsOnTomes and personally I would rather look grotesque than have what happened to Hush happen to me, beautiful or not. In a lot of books it is usually the opposite, the men are the war hardened, scared, grotesque and beaten warriors and the women are the beautiful damsels. In that case people complain about the women being too beautiful and not being treated as equal to men. In this series it is usually the women who are the most BA instead of having a male main character. Maybe Jay just knew women could take it as much as men. Idk I just feel like people are never happy in this situation. Either they are upset that the women are beautiful and useless but do not care the men are grotesque (no one complains about the Hound in game of Thrones for example) or they are upset when bad ass women actually get injured in ways it would not matter if male characters were. :) would you have had the same issue with the book if a bunch of males were grotesque and the women were the beautiful ones? I can not believe you actually responded by the way! Hello! :D I love your videos! Keep up the good work!
Ally Vegan I think you are misunderstanding my comment. I don’t care that women are grotesque. I care that it’s just them and that it’s also used as the main descriptor for them. It’s focused on highly. Their looks have nothing to do with their badassness. I still have this book 5 stars 🤷🏻♀️ it’s not a matter of being unhappy with it or finding something to complain about. It’s something I noticed. I believe I explained all of my thoughts about this book and characters in a well rounded way. It’s fine if you disagree 😊
@@ThoughtsOnTomes Ahhhhhh that clears up my misunderstanding! :D I guess I just got confused with the "Why are you only disfiguring the women? Maybe you could do like the men too? And that would be like a little more fair." part :) and thought that you were concerned with the treatment of the women in the book. I only left a comment since when I remember disfigurement in Nevernight I personally remember Hush first because his was the one that disturbed me the most, beautiful or not. Also because like I said, I so rarely hear people upset about disfigured male characters when the women are beautiful, but when something happens to a female character that tends to be what I hear about the most. :D no worries! Thanks for chatting with me!!!! If it helps, he wrote another series called the Lotus Wars (women also the main BA characters) and as far as I can remember there were a few SERIOUSLY disfigured males in that series so I do not think its an intentionally sexist thing on his part if that was what you were worried about :P he apparently just likes to brutalize his poor characters and since strong females are the ones he seems to prefer writing they are the ones who get some of it too. :(
I thought the same thing. I feel so bad for Hush. I hope he gets a happy ending but it is unlikely with this series I feel hahaha
This is the first time I am watching any of your videos and I will say, I LOVE them! You are funny and give lots of information without spoiling any parts of the content. Thank you for making these great videos 😀🤩
thank you :)
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Thanks for your review, I had my doubts about this book, but since you loved it, I'm sure I'll enjoy it too.
I loved Nevernight, but I'm leaving Godsgrave until closer to the release of Darkdawn too!
JUST READ IT. LOVED IT. AMAZING. DYYYYYING FOR THE NEXT BOOK TO ARRIVE. Also forcing my partner to read it right now lol
Your nails... will haunt me through my dreams. Couldn't take my eyes off them.
ha thanks.
So far I'm really confused on what's going on XD In the first chapter I was trying to figure out if it was her magic or if it was just the narration because it was so repetitive with the sex and the murder. Can someone please explain to me what the italicized narration is vs. the normal narration?
the first chapter is like that on purpose. it's a split scene between her first time having sex and her first murder. it's the only chapter that's like that. the italicized narration I'm assuming is footnotes and that's additional information given to you for world building purposes.
@@ThoughtsOnTomes Thank you! I had just read the first chapter today and it seemed jumbled, and skimmed the other pages and saw this style continued a little bit, but now I see those are flashbacks as I read a little bit further. Thank you for taking the time an clearing up my confusion! :D
Nevernight series by Jay krisoff vs book of ancestors by Mark Lawrence, which is easier to read for fantasy beginners? Thanks.
Hmmm tough call. I'd say they are about the same tbh!
Hi I’m going to read this book next!! 📖📖 look forward reading this book!! 😄
So I literally just picked this up yesterday. But I don't know if I'm a complete moron or what, but I got to page 50ish and had NO CLUE what was going on. I had to start over and still wasn't following wtf is going on. Why am I the only person on the planet that just like doesn't get it lol
JillyMae89 not just you lol I’m literally on page 50 right now and can’t figure out what the hype is about I’m lost
@@kristinhershey1903 I finally finished it and I'm still like 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️ it was OKAY. Probably not reading the 2nd one though
Is it me or is the beginning of the book very repetitive. When I've tried to read my copy, I've struggled with the first few pages being almost the same?
Chloe Manville it’s a mirror of sex vs murder. It’s done purposefully. That’s the only chapter that device is used in.
Thank you for replying. I was wondering why but your answer helps massively. To know the whole book isn't like it and your explanation will help massively to read on.
With the disfigured characters there’s a lot of characters that are disfigured. Trick had his face tattoo and hush was disfigured.
I’m so glad you finally read it! And I completely agree with waiting to read Godsgrave. I read it before the date for Darkdawn got pushed. Also, try listening to the audiobooks. The footnotes are integrated in the narration and it’s more cohesive.
hey! Zeke gets disfigured on the daily in the Lifelike series. so i think he balanced it? ikd i'm a completely lush idiot so don't take my word for it :P
Love that hair cut 👍
WOW!
My relationship with Kristoff and his books it is a little bit on the fence (I wasn´t blown away by 'Illuminae' as the rest of booktube, sorry Sam) but this...WOW. This is something I could dive into (despite the blood and the torture).
Oh, could you tell us a bit about the school? How is the environment of the school? Is it medieval? I love the ambiance and setting in fantasy so it is a point very important for me. Could you share a bit of info about it with me?
And it is translated into Spanish already so another positive point in favour of the book. I am very intrigued, very, very intrigued (says that when she should go on a book ban because there is no more space on the bookshelf, hehe).
This goes to the list, so maybe some good person gives me this as a present for Christmas.
Brace yourself, Sam, I am binging your videos
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Do the footnotes continue into the other novels? I find them very distracting and they sort of take me out of the story
yep they are in all of the books
I really want to read this because I picked it up in a little free library and I really like the writing style, and it's been recommended to me a bunch, but I'm a giant wimp and I'm worried that I'll find it too upsetting 😅
I won't lie, im finding the footnotes jarring as hell. I'm only on chapter5-6ish but when i turn a page and see almost half of it is footnotes it really takes me out of the book and plot. Maybe im just a bit weird but it really breaks apart the pacing for me. I don't mind them being small/ish and I do like some of them because they can be quite funny and interesting, but im not sure on the whole thing. TIt's probably prevalent to note that this is the first book I've read that actually uses them.
Im gonna hold off on the Vlog until I read this myself. Maybe I'll.have got to it by the time Darksoul comes out 😂
This looks so good. Just wanted to say your channel has inspired me to make my own bookish youtube channel :) also, what piratey books would you recommend? I love pirates and Peter Pan retellings (Lost Boy by christina henry is great! You should read it)
aw thank you! my favorite pirate themed book is Red Seas Under Red Skies, which is the second book in a series by Scott Lynch.
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I have this and book 2 but haven't read them yet. I loved Illuminae etc. but not sure why I haven't started this series yet. This sounds good though! I may wait until book 3 comes out and binge it since book 2 sounds cliffhanger-ish😂😂😂😂
Aaaa your t-shirt
If you enjoy religion in fantasy you should read The Gutter Prayer by Gareth Hanrahan. It’s based in a world experiencing a god war; it’s full of different religions, lots of theology and there’s saints and prophets and deities and.... it’s a wild ride, you should check it out!
Re your comments about the two disfigured women. A story should be fair when dishing out mutilations? Were men crying out for a mutilated female character in a Song of Ice and Fire because of the Hound? And before anybody mentions Lady Stoneheart, she appears 4 books later and is already a dead zombie thing.
Sweet voice* "Why are you just only disfiguring the women? Maybe you can do it to the men too??" Accurate.
Ashleyreadmylips oh but I keep getting told that “some of the men have scars” or “the beautiful guy that is described as beautiful all the one also had a disfigurement” as if it compares to how the women are described but yeah cool cool
I think that its good that a book has disfigured women because in real life some women are disfigured and in fantasy fiction men can be disfigured and scarred but majority of female characters stay beautiful and never get scarred or disfigured. Fantasy fiction is kind of flawed overall in its portrayal of women and trauma, robin hobb and scott lynch are examples of authors that have physical trauma portrayed for women as well as men.
Ugh. I was going to give this series a look but apparently it's the same old story, family is killed, person wants revenge, blah blah blah; Are there original stories anymore?!
oh honey there haven't been original stories in thousands of years. stories build on each other and themes are timeless. it's in the way that it's told that makes the difference and I think this one is a good one.
@@ThoughtsOnTomes I'll give it a shot, I actually just picked up book 1 from audible with the 1 credit I had - thanks for the response. :D
I swear to God I think the narrator is Hush.
The footnotes and the letters in italics made it very very hard to read for me.
Alithia451 not really it’s a way to give more of the world instead of info dumping it helped tell the story
Beowulf does the exact same thing.
I have such a big problem with the racist undertones and the odd writing style, it’s pulling me out of the story... I wanna like this so bad cause everyone else does but I’ve DNFd it twice now 😩
Maria C books are subjective and nothing is for everyone :)
@@ThoughtsOnTomes ^^THIS
I swear to God I think the narrator is Hush.
oooh I like that theory!