This is why people HATED Jim Morrison
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The Doors really accomplished a lot in their short time like Jimi Hendrix did. These were magical people and for the few years they had to create music, they sure left us a lot to enjoy.
They broke on through to the other side and brought it to us..
So true. Jimi wrote the book on how to play the Electric guitar. Before him, most people strummed electric guitars, like they were acoustics with a microphone. The Doors incorporated sophisticated elements of Jazz music into catchy radio-friendly rock anthems, with amazing lyrics. Live they were unbelievable - unless Jim was really wrecked.
Jimi Hendrix was a overrated clown.
Imagine calling Jimi Hendrix an overrated clown. Only clown here is you. @@ozanareyiz7773
@@ozanareyiz7773 And his music sucks. I've never understood why people worship him.
“I've noticed that when people are joking they're usually dead serious, and when they're serious, they're usually pretty funny.” J Morrison.
Jim was on drugs and mentally ill. It's doubtful he saw things as they actually were.
People are strange.
@@jamesanthony5681When you`re a stranger...
People look ugly 🇬🇧
One of his best quotes 🫡he had so many!
I know the real reason why Crosby hated Jim Morrison. Once when Crosby was sitting in the Whiskey a Gogo acting like a rock star, wearing sunglasses indoors, Morrison went up to him and ripped the sunglasses off and broke them saying-"We know its you hiding behind those glasses David.." Crosby was humiliated and hated him for the rest of his life.
I wear my sunglasses at night so I can watch you weave and breathe your story lines 👁️🗨️
Thank you for giving me more information than the show did
Interesting as there is a similar scene in the film “The Doors,” but the sunglasses Jim removed are Andy Warhol’s who was smitten, not ticked.
Did this interviewee ever even spend personal time with Jim? I doubt it. Sounds like he is relying on hearsay, although the David’s Crosby story is probably true as I have heard it many a time previous to this interview. RIP David and Jim. 🎶❤️🎶
Jim was simply not well, but he was also a sexual and poetic marvel.
@@rudypalma1250 Yes, he was a lyrical genius, and talented performer. Tragic how he passed, and much too young.
With all of their fame, The Doors are still one of the most underrated bands of the 60's.
I’ve never considered The Doors in the category of underrated, not even a little bit. They were one of the greatest bands to come out of the 60’s. The greatest in my opinion.
@@CreatingExcellence Agreed. The Doors are rated just fine imo. I'll tell you what's underrated though. Not saying bands are underrated. 😉
Nooo average group as best.
@@vaughnreedjr6592 A drunken poet singer, a hybrid picking flamenco rock guitarist, and a keyboard player who played the bass on a separate keyboard. Definitely the average band😆🤣😁😂
@@CreatingExcellence Underrated doesn't mean every individual person underrates them. They WERE one of the greatest, bands to come out of the 60's. Many many people don't recognize that. Hence, underrated. I also "love them madly":)
I expect the truth of why David Crosby hated Jim was because whenever Morrison showed up at a party, looking and sounding like a Greek god, all those beautiful girls he mentioned probably stopped talking to him as all eyes turned to Jim.
Crosby screwed half of America lol he’s got about twelve kids hasn’t he? 😂
Crosby wrote a song about Jim Morrison. He seems obsessed because he mentions him in almost every newspaper interview after Jim died.
@@desertrose1226 yes, in a country of 24, lol
Hobbits have it rough...
Facts! Jimbo was a good looking dude!👍🏿
I fucking love The Doors.
Agreed.
Yeah mate.
The Doors are a great band.
UK
11/3/2024
The Doors RULE!!!
In mid '66, thereabouts, the boys went to a record company, and when they told the name of their group to a female receptionist, she responded , "Well, that's a dumb name."
@@jamesanthony5681 that's funny because I think it's one of the Coolest band names EVER!!
I wasn't aware of hatred of Jim Morrison. Most of my generation idolized Morrison. A poet with a backup band. Psychedelic Sinatra.
The Doors are nothing more than a back-up band to you?
Not the band, the person Jim Morrison.
@@rickyray2794 Actually, he says "A poet with a backup band". Therefore he's implying that the instrumentalists are nothing more than backup musicians to Morrison.
Had he worded it, "A great band with a poet for a singer", then fine.
@@Dirgnimai7 Oh no I was referring to him saying he was not aware some people hated Jim. But he is thinking of Jim the musician not Jim the troubled crazy guy, which he could be sometimes.
Interesting title isn't it? Maybe enough to get people to click on it. Some* people hated Morrison because he didn't give a fuck what stage they were playing on. He knew enough to take a page from the 17th earl.
The list of rock stars that are/were pricks is LONG!
Being world class at any one thing is very rare. Being world class and a well-rounded individual is rarer still. You do the math.
I hear your point - could not agree less. Peace @@harrymills2770
Jim wasnt a prick. He was Southern gentlemen 95% of time. All his freinds, fans who met him personally talk about that. He was just wild on stage and around Hollyweirdo aholes & drank too much at times
no punn intended?
Too long to mention here
I heard their very first album, on vinyl, in the Summer of 1967 as a 14 year old, and some 57 years later, now at the age of 71 I'm still mesmerized by Jim's voice, poetry and lyrics, and the Door's songs. Don't get me wrong, I love dozens of other bands, but the Doors were the only group to really get under my skin in a good way.
Hundreds of acts and groups have come and gone through the years without a trace, but100 years from now people will still be listening to the magic the Doors cast upon a generation.
@davejohnson-yi2rk: - and to think that I was standing almost arm’s length away from Jim as he fell off of the stage at his last concert. It was sad and almost no big deal as somebody quickly propped him back up. Jim Morrison looked bloated, disheveled, unkept and not on his game so badly enough for me to comment to my friend “He’s not long for this world”. - and he wasn’t. I believe he died not long after that. - but what a waste - as I have just recently - all of these decades later - delved into his writings and feel like what a loss he was and how much more of him would be revealed had he lived. - but then not really, because his addictions took over. He was done at that point. I guess that was the divine plan, if any divine plan exists, that Jim Morrison was only meant to be here for a very brief time. Yes. It is sad and a loss for everyone left behind.
Jim was brilliant, as a performer, an original thinker, somebody who dared to go against the mainstream, and NOT for P.R. Or clout. Instead, he genuinely wanted to provoke and shake up status quo, and he did !
I like and admire him for that. I can’t stand authority or people bossing me around. Never have. All I dislike Jim for is being a drunken mess and messing women around.
@@desertrose1226 Yeah, I can agree to that. He became another, mean, abusive person when he was too drunk. As a teen, I loved Jimi Hendrix and The Doors, and found it such a missed opportunity, Jim’s fault for showing up on stage so drunk out of his mind, when the two jammed together on some blues, that these two couldn’t get it together… they could have and had the capability to produce one of the worthiest bootlegs of all-time in rock music, with all those shared blues classics in their minds. Instead it became a chaotic mess with Jim shouting obscenities and falling on the floor, which was even more of a shame since he admired Jimi Hendrix, and wanted to jam with him.
@@G.M.1944 Janis Joplin was there also…✌️
@@josephschlichting4339 Yes ! My fave of hers remains “Kozmic Blues”
Well said!
David Crosby was jealous of Jim Morrison. He called Morrison a drunk. That’s rich from a guy who was a long time crack addict. A man who once, in the midst of recording with CSN, dropped his crack pipe and had to cancel the session. He blew it with his bandmates in the Byrds. Crosby was a narcissistic, although very talented musician, selfish guy. Even his best friend, Graham Nash, deserted him several years ago because he couldn’t take it any more. I’m writing this because he has dissed Morrison in interviews several times. Why he’s done that, I don’t know but I think it was plain jealousy. Come on gals, if you were at a party in 1967 and Morrison was there, would you even bother to look at David Crosby? I think probably not.😅
Jim Morrison was a drunk. And, yes, even a crack addict could tell.
@@ashergarber3791wasn't Crosby also an alcoholic ? I mean he needed a liver transplant for crying out loud ...
I saw the Doors at Philadelphia Arena Aug 4 1968, I just turned 14. I thought they were great. No AC hot as hell. Tickets $3.00
$3?
You got ripped off!
Bought literally everything I could find of The Doors from 94-08 or so. Noticed they had pretty high ticket prices for their day.
$3? That's about 2 hours of work (minimum wage) back in 1968. What major band can you see today for two hours worth of work?
The Stones if you're Macca@@scarbourgeoisie
@@jpmnky Saw 'em in May 1970 at the Spectrum in Philly. Tickets were $4.50, 5.50, & 6.50. Not bad for that time. Missed the Arena show . Still pissed that I did!
jim morrison was ahead of his time and right when he said we are nothing but sheep
No one here gets
out alive 🥀
Actually, a guy named Isaiah said we are all like sheep who have gone astray over 2,500 years ago.
@fredfreddy8684 you are what happens to people who don't question anything and don't think for themselves
@fredfreddy8684I agree that the right wing are the wrong wing, but you are delusional if you think the left isn't full of "sheep". In that specific respect, the "left" is becoming more like the "right" every day. It is famously the case that during the Reagan administration, the right adopted an official policy that everyone on the right had to tow the official party line. That was NEVER how it was for the left where we were always free to think for ourselves. To be the kind of "left" that made sense to us personally. Now, more and more, the left is strictly "tow the line" or you aren't with us. Politics in America (it's nothing like that in Europ) is fucked. We are fucked.
Perhaps it was Morrison who was a sheep to the bottle?
Morrison looked like a god and Crosby looked like a toad I believe that was the root of his jealousy
Men don’t get as jealous as women though
@@desertrose1226 That’s generally true about men. Women can be incredibly jealous of each other and equally cruel to each other at times.
David Crosby was extremely liberal and extremely liberal men tend to act like overly emotional women. In the lexicon of liberalism, “they’re more in touch with their feminine side.”
Manzarek, Densmore and Krieger weren’t exactly pinup material for teenage girls and were no doubt pretty liberal guys but Crosby was obviously upset because in a room full of women that aren’t vision impaired, it’s pretty obvious that women were going to naturally gravitate towards Morrison instead of Crosby.
The fact that Morrison and alcohol didn’t mix well and his behavior quickly deteriorated is well documented and absolutely true. That doesn’t negate the fact that some men will hate other men when they enter the room and the targets of their own desire rapidly diminish. In the case of Crosby versus Morrison - they vanished.
@@desertrose1226Jewish men?
David Crosby dated Joni Mitchell. Joni then wrote a song basically saying they were through and debuted to all their friend with David present. He still produced her first record. Watch the documentary about Danny Fields who worked for Elecktra Records. Danny was given the impossible task of babysitting Morrison in Laurel Canyon for a time. Jim wanted his car keys while being extremely high and drunk. Danny then brought him to met Nico. He was transfixed by her. They gazed upon each other for over a hour. Strange Days indeed.
😀💖🌹
Love him or hate him, the guy was talented and fronted a great band.
I would love to have met Jim Morrison.When he was sober apparently he was a really sweet guy.
We all have moments, but with Jim people focus on the trashy stuff.
check out the Jim Morrison Mort Sahl interview
Jim Morrison’s dad was Admiral of the Pacific Navy during Vietnam.
And I heard ( not 100%on this) that he was one of the guys that faked the Gulf of Tonkin event. 🤷🏼♂️
Stills dad also military
@@PaulFormentos that whole Laurel Canyon 60’s scene may have been an entire CIA psyop. There’s a fascinating book about it called “Weird scenes inside the Canyon”. Highly Recommend.
@@gowman813Yes, he was the commander on the ship. Also read Linda aRonstadt couldn’t stand him.
That's not quite accurate. He was CO of the 5th carrier division prior to the War and the 5th was later added to the 7th fleet. 2-3 years after that he was a rear-admiral and served off Korea helping support the South Koreans. He had no role in the Tonkin Gulf incident.
Jim was " The People's Rock Star". Unlike every other musician who hit it big, he remained one of us. No mansion, fleet of Ferraris, limo with chauffeur.
He lived in motels and rented apartments. Hung out with fans and ordinary folk, not movie stars and other musicians. Drank in neighborhood dives, not private club.
I've recently read autobiographies of Elton John and Graham Nash; ALL their friends were famous and in show business. Read any book about Jim; you rarely come across a famous name.
God bless that drunken shaman!
I think Shane MacGowan would have got on pretty well with Jimbo.
if david crosby hates you, that's probably a good thing, all the guys from the byrds and (c)sny disliked the guy
I remember him & McGuinn were talking on Twitter, being cordial and complementing each other, then Crosby sad something dumb and blocked Roger. I don’t remember what it was but Roger responded with “some things never change” 😂
Crosby was never the star in any band always a bit player. Third most important player in the byrds and third in csn and fourth in csny
I met him in the airport and he was the nicest guy. Talked to him for about 10min
I totally agree. He was overated and lucky to meet the talent in the bands that he was in. He was at the right place at the right time. @@Mncrr
@@ralphruocco3013 well said. A very good harmony singer which sums it up
How great was Jim, he had a 5-year give or take a few, shot at fame, died at 27 in 1971, we are still talking about him to this day!! that is how great he was...
I saw the Doors live in the late 60's in Columbus OH. He kept encouraging fans onto the stage; girls were lunging for him. The cops shut down the show several times. I was entertained but, damn, I came for the music.
Was that in 1968? My uncle saw them in Columbus in 1968. Jim was wearing a red shirt at the show.
yes:). @@ernestintownandjackintheco1024
Females in those days were hella weird.
Yummy 🥰
For a comprehensive view of Jim Morrison, I would advise reading "Jim Morrison" by Stephen Davis, "Riders On The Storm" by John Densmore, and "Light My Fire" by Ray Manzarek.
Manzarek gloats on Morrison's poetic sensiblities without robbing him of the complexities of his personality.
Densmore cuts him no slack. He paints the portrait of a young man obsessed with self-destruction.
Davis falls somewhere in the middle. He lays out facts of the man, and the band, in a way that is both accessible to the average reader and comprehensive to the most ardent Doors fan.
I would swap out Manzarek's self- serving book for Krieger's.
@@brucemarshall3446 I've actually not read Krieger's
@@GhettoWerewolf He reveals a lot of NEW info , especially about the early days in LA before they hit big
I would also read " No One Here Gets Out Alive" . Not as comprehensive as some but very well written . It's like reading a novel about Jim.
@@brucemarshall3446 The best of the 3 autobiographies IMHO
He was a very drunk rocker, what do you expect. I am sure he's gonna rub some the wrong way. No doubt there was envy as well. Aside from that little incident in Miami he didn't rack up a bunch of felonies, violent crimes. My late mom would play his music all the time in the car in the 80s, so of course I have a'lot of appreciation and fond memories of his music now.
He didn't look good in his later photos. Obviously he was doing something that was wrecking his health.
An arrogant drunk is hard to tolerate! I know, I use to be one ! My brother n. Law ,who is gone now , much older than I . Told me about a doors concert in 69 or 70 he went to . He said half the audience walked out , he said he was so drunk on stage one couldn't even understand what he was saying . He said the music was ok , however Morrison was just sloppy & belligerent to the audience.
I love that clip where the Doors are at the airport and each one says who they are and what instrument they play and he just says...Jim
David Crosby was a great guy to me for the day that I was his driver.He talked about his life, and how grateful he was. He bought me lunch in Santa Barbara, and let me use his bathroom in his home in Santa Ynez. I guess he changed by this time (2011). RIP
Good he treated people working for him well, working with him was probably a whole different animal.
My brother was at a small gathering about 30 years ago where David Crosby was present. He was sober and talking about the journey. He said he was really nice and humble in his reflection.
My friend met David Crosby before a show years ago. He asked him to sign a CSN album. David yelled at him and then accused him that he would sell it. My buddy was dumbfounded like “wtf, who is this guy?” He then grabbed his album, and started scribbling all over it. So, now his original CSN album is covered in black sharpie and it looks like it was ruined by a child. That child was David Crosby. By friend now refers to him as Asshole Crosby. Completely arrogant jackass. He said it was one of the strangest interactions with anyone he has ever had, famous or not.
@@afrocoolio25 Wow..that is such a bad time. Sorry for your friend. And it does relate to my brother’s impromptu meeting with him as my brother was nothing but a jerk as a teenager and I think he was really struck by the Crosby thing as Crosby was basically sitting around with a small group..akin to AA meetings I imagined he had recently been to..and saying he was realizing how he made a lot of mistakes done a lot of things he was regretting..and realizing there is a way to live where you are a much better person.
Look into the reason why Melissa Etheridge chose David Crosby to be the sperm donor for her son that committed suicide.
With those screams he never blew his voice out! Natural singer to say the least.
100%. And to do it with zero experience or training is mind blowing. I mean, they recorded their first album in the fall of '66, and he literally had NEVER sung.....EVER...until about a year prior to that. Nuts. Legend. All four of the Doors. They were life changing for me. Still are.
Nobody could scream like Jim.
It was also a four-year career. And yes, I loved his voice.
He didn’t even TRY lmao
He blew my tweeters out a few times. Polk Audio finally told me they wouldn’t replace them under warranty anymore.
“When The Music’s Over”
Unless you know someone personally it is impossible to judge if he was a nice guy or not. He was a genius and probably ahead of his time. Whether he was a nice guy is irrelevant because that is simply a perception of people who hear stories about him
Wong
title: "why PEOPLE HATED Jim Morrison"
video: David Crosby thought he was an ass at parties.
ahh, good ol' clickbait.
Jim morrison was a genius who was real, had balls, wrote great songs & looked like a greek god. Of course mouth breathers gotta hate on him . Youll never see the total package like Jim had again
You can admire his talent, looks and all the rest of it, but why pretend he was "nice" person when he really wasn't. Be honest!
@@zzzbbboooyeah true.. might have been gorgeous once but he was extremely self destructive, and those lovely looks faded way too quickly.
Read a great book by a young girl who met Jim (I think) in San Francisco library. He used to take her off for weekends. It showed another side to him. I got it from a second-hand store and have never seen another copy. It had a green cover and is worth looking out for. Sorry I can't remember the girl's name.
@@zzzbbbooo From what ive studied about him( which was basically since high school into my 40s.) He was very humble, well read, freindly guy on most days & with most people ( would hang out with anyone, didnt think he was an elitist). He had issues with authority figures and alcohol which could make do wild crazy thingsbat times. He wasnt greedy & was very loyal . He was only mean to people he felt were manipulative or in authority roles
check out the Jim Morrison Mort Sahl interview
If the source of “hating Jim Morrison” is David Crosby, that tells me a lot about what a crock of shit that opinion is. Long live The Doors
Long live the doors
Read something recently that Ray Mazarek claimed Morrison wasn’t the abrasive ass the film made him out to be.
Suuuure Ray
When he was sober...quiet/funny/introspective -- never 'saw' that in the film.
but when he was DRUNK...he was the stereotypical 'mean/nasty' alcoholic.
You should read Ray's book: Light my fire. There, he explains a lot of things, particularly; things that aren't shown in the movie The Doors (Oliver Stone).
@@marval9119 plus, Ray is selling the brand. People want to hear that Morrison wasn’t as bad as they’ve heard. Plus, Oliver Stone makes movies. Movies will exaggerate for dramatic purposes. Plus, Stone particularly is a god damn weirdo and has no problem playing stuff up.
@@Akkbar21 in my case, I don't want to believe Morrison was a saint, I'm sure he certainly wasn't. But Ray also talks about Jim's alcoholism in his book.
Fact: Chuck Taylor’s may look cool, but they are the most uncomfortable shoe ever created.
That's because Chuck's have zero support. Nada!
False, the shoes mold to your feet.
They now have the more modern "Chuck 70", look the same but way more durable and comfortable...not that I'm being paid by Converse or anything 😛
@@heypalindrome Have to check them out. The older and retro models are numbing to my geriatric feet.
Inserts..
Saw Morrison’s last live performance with The Doors. It was in New Orleans, the venue was The Warehouse. He was a drunken, bloated, damaged man. The “performance” was embarrassing. After that he was off to Paris….
Wasn't that the concert where Manzarik said he saw Jims spirt evaporate and then Jim smashed the mic?
Yes
And he was still cooler and way more talented then any of these idiots today.
That means you got to hear one of only two live performances of riders on the storm (well, at the very least an attempt at it with a drunken Jim).
he was ready to leave music, he also had legal problems from a show he did in Florida and faced felony charges for lewd behavior, DA there wanted him in jail, sad end for great singer, alcohol destroyed him, and he was careless with drugs, finally his luck ran out in Paris
Thats why I love Morrison.. he called everyone out for their Bullshit... he figured It out young and let everyone know it.. unapologetically....
Crosby was jealous
Jealous of what? Crosby could sing circles around Morrison and is reported to have slept with way more women.
@@motomike71that’s a god damn joke
I would rather listen to my dog bark then Crosby sing
@@motomike71 jealous of Morrison popularity overall - he was a rock god back then.
@@motomike71What?Dave's solo music suck and so do you.
@@brianmeen2158He allegedly called out Dave onetime while the doors were onstage and Croz was in the crowd for wearing shades inside - something to the effect of ‘You can’t hide behind those’
how could anyone hate Jim Morrison.
Envy
Sucky music
Let's be honest, he was also a mean drunkard
I would take Jim Morrison over these two creeps any day.
I know plenty of people who met Jim Morrison and said he was the nicest and engaging performer they ever met.
Cris Robinson = Hearsay!
I pick up that vibe from the books I've read and vids I've seen.
There's a handful of books of written before he was in The Doors that are great. Since we're on UA-cam, I HIGHLY recommend the Jim Morrison Mort Sahl interview.
the Doors made the biggest splash in their time. true, morrison could be a prick, but i bet a lot of crosby's dislike of morrison is actually jealousy.
The doors were big up to 1968. After 1968.their albums sold less and less. LA Woman was their worst charting album when it hit #9 . Crosby bands were bigger in 69-71 .
History tells a different story. Jim morrison is culture. CSN was just a moment.
@@gdeetman1590 the culture of Jim Morrison was that he died at 27 and the myth came with Danny Sugarman’s book in 1981 .
Jim Morrison may be the first and last authentic rock star!
Keith Moon was very similar.
@@daves2058 Gene Simmons also banged out a lot.
@@peterrutkowski8172 Gene did it without alcohol!
Jim Morrison gave my aunt a puppy when I was kid. I didn't find out until many years later that I lived with Jim Morrison's dog. 🤣🤣🤣
Jim Morrison had that part of his personality called "Jimbo" that came to the surface when he was drunk or high... People who knew him well speak highly of him, he was quiet polite charming charismatic very generous and extremely intelligent... I think Jim had an untreated bipolar disorder called cyclothymia and that that it took him to do all those things that made him die at the age of 27... But he was definitely a genius.
All the reasons establishment hates/folk artists hated are all the things I love about that crazy brief light of Jim Morrison
Bill, Chris was referring to "musicians", not rap artists.
Rap Is crap.
@@danielmcrae6470It really is the refuge for the musically devoid.
another story that has been told is while the doors were playing the Whisky a Go Go, david crosby showed up to see what all the fuss was about.. he entered the whisky wearing sunglasses. he made his way to the front of the crowd. jim morrison removed crosby's glasses from his head and told crosy 'you can't hide'. from that moment forward crosby hated the doors and jim morrison. there was also the l a / san fran rivialry.
Morrison was a god.And the doors collectively as a band are the best bar none.
Bippity boppity
The electric poet
Morrison was a sloppy drunk, poet with a great voice
The first two albums and last two good, Soft Parade terrible.
@@steveconn soft parade is s master piece. Take the cobwebs out of your ears. Each Doors album is like a different Michelin restaurant category
I used to serve Chris beers in the Bay Area. He's a pretty chill, down to earth dude on the streets. Doesn't have the attitude that usually comes with fame. I could see why Crosby would count Robinson as a friend.
If they hated him it was because he got ALL the chics!!! LOL
Oh yeah haha as soon as they said the word Chicks I knew it was really the green eyed monsta!! 😂
Yeah, and the chics got all his STDs.
I think Crosby would have been a normal guy if he'd been a plumber or HVAC guy. But he could sing well and play a little, and it went to his head. He got self-important and never learned to shut up or tone it down. It got him thrown out of the Byrds. It made him almost come to blows with Stills. It alienated him from his best friend Nash. His personality got too big and righteous. His way of expressing himself was flamboyant and over the top in an alienating way.
Exactly, he had a great harmony voice and wrote a few good songs but was probably bothered that he couldn’t front a band or write enough quality material to fill multiple records alone.
@@Jbones72well said. A good not great singer an average guitar player and a short fat napoleon who was raised in privilege
Which begs the question-how come it got him and not everybody else in those bands? I think some people are genetically disposed to being assholes. Maybe they can hide it until they get ahold of some power and presitge.
@@HeyMykee Jim mcguinn was the main talent along with gene Clark. I read that Crosby tortured gene who was 4 years younger into not playing rhythm guitar and just banging that stupid tambourine. Gene actually had the best lead voice but the record company and the producer picked Jim (Roger) to take most of the leads. Feel a whole lot better was my favorite byrds song sung by gene.
Yes exactly
Steven stills seemed to dislike him alot
When he said “my 20s.. yeah fuck…” I felt that
1:59 I'm 49 ... and I felt that too.
Bill in his twenties was still a virgin! He didn't accomplish shit then!
Same!!
@@miyojewoltsnasonth2159 I've always had depression / fatigue issues so it doesn't make much difference to me. 20s and 40s same problem. The antidepressant helps, though.
Yup... and my early 30s.
Jim Morrison was a true artist antics aside. One of the best poets/song writers ever.
Read Morrisons Biographies he was actually a kind articulate soul. His music and poetry 2nd to none. He could be an ass but we all can be once we've consumed a few more than necessary. He said that he would act certain ways and say certain things just to get arise out of people. He studied the human reaction and reflex of society pushing the human boundaries to their extent.
His band mates would disagree
So true. Fortunately bands that followed later like Guns n Roses never acted up.
well said
Guns n Roses (especially Axel) were notorious for acting up. Izzy was my fave.
@@philjames6206 Oh yea.. Remember when he took a wiz in the back of a commercial flight on a beverage cart. They also use to destroy hotel rooms and throw furniture out the window or terrace. The penalty fees were insane.
I saw the Doors at the Coliseum in Phoenix in 68. Morrison was drunk and ranting about politics. We just wanted to hear the music. Manzarek kept playing the intro to songs over and over. I felt sorry for the band members who were there to do a job. I still love their music.
I've read both Ray Manzarek and John Densmore Doors /Jim Morrison bios. They all describe how extremely difficult it was, yet very rewarding to have Jim Morrison in the band. So it's very accurate description how he was portrayed in the Doors movie. My academic teacher said the same thing when he saw the doors in concert. He told me Jim Morrison was out of his mind on stage on alcohol or drugs and acting like a deranged maniac
What did he say?
Whatever dude
@@LookatmeimSandraDeeJim was obsessed with death. "Sex starts it and death ends it"- Jim Morrison. When Jim was 16 he asked his parents for all of Nietzsches books, how many other teens would've asked for that? Lol None. My point is i doubt Jim even cared about politics he loved to push people and see their reactions
I've heard the same thing from people who are old enough to have seen the Doors & claimed they did . Drunk, arrogrant , half of audience would walk out before the show was over. Said he was so sloppy live couldn't understand the lyrics & he was belligerent to the audience.
Regardless of his abrasive personality, which I'm sure was rooted in his alcoholism, I will always love Morrison's voice and the Doors music. They were true originals and deserve much more respect than Crosby/Stills/Nash.
I agree no comparison the doors so powerful and unique I know of no band or person like Morrison that shared his songwriting royalties to others
Another hardcore doors fan here 💯💯
@@seanohare5488 The TRUE meaning of a band!
Being defiant was once cool. It was born of breaking the stale rules of the 50s-70s. Defiance had a place.
Today, defiance is just a bunch of untouchable spoiled brats being assholes.
"The world on fire
Taxi from Africa
The grand hotel
He was drunk
A big party last night
Back, going back
In all directions
Sleeping these insane hours
I'll never wake up
In a good mood again
I'm sick of these stinky boots."
Just one of these drunken nights in the youth of life...
Hail Hail Morrison, for making our states in time...
THANK YOU CHRIS. Been saying the same thing on X for YEARS, there are no rock stars anymore because everyone's COMPLIANT. The entire reason they formed rock n'roll was to BREAK the rules, so that never made any sense to me.
Because we're all constantly spying and telling on each other now
Don’t forget to wear your pride shirt, kneel before the George Floyd statue and vote for the Democrats.
When the Doors movie was released in 1991, I got hooked on the music. Val Kilmer nailed it.
Funny to hear Bill Mahr talking about OTHER people being "a monumental prick"
When he said "i'd hate to think how I was in my 20's, I thought "well I mean, you're an asshole -now-"
Exactly!@@ziff_1
As Stephen Sills said of Crosby he's part of his backup band..
Said it bout the other three, ole Stephen an asss like Jim
Morrison is my distant relative on my mother’s side. Evidently we both share a great-grandmother. My mother’s side is bat-shit crazy and I’ve never been able to tolerate alcohol, so I never drink. Obviously mental illness runs in the family. 🧐🤨
I just hit 63 and LOVE the Doors.
I didn’t realize Chris was such a chill thoughtful guy. Still love The Black Crows!
He apparently has changed a bit because he was ALWAYS a Grade A asshole. His relationship with David Crosby was predicated on experience with drugs and being top notch narcissistic assholes.
They both stopped drugs. Chris did with his original liver.
Here is hoping that the chill Chris isn’t some act
I had no idea that was chris 😮 i was in high school when the black crows debuted time flies
His alcoholism is legendary. Jim Morrison appeals to me personally as I believe he knew this life is fake , and that he wanted to go home. Made some great music before he died and the habitual drug abuse and alcoholism brought out his asshole alter ego ' Jimbo ' . I would have loved to have spent a day hanging out with the band, drinking, absorbing the social interaction and music 🎶. How good would that have been ! And then Jimbo arrives. . . .
What bands and music you listened to was still taken very seriously when I was in high school in the 2000s. I remember several major fist fights because someone had trashed someone else's favourite band or guitarist... It seems so silly and trivial now, but it absolutely mattered back then. Which ever band you followed became like your own, personal religion, and you had to be prepared to fight for it.
Morrison was essentially the first punk (he directly inspired Iggy Pop and Patti Smith) in the age of hippies.
Also, the first heavy metal frontman without the metal sound.
lou reed is in there too... but your right.... morrison doesnt get enough credit for how innovative he was when they first emerged on the scene. the end & WTMO were performed live as on vinyl in the influential whisky go go in the summer of '66. no one was in that same zipcode in '66 summer, except the velvets. it was dark grandeur & assaultive. in turn, an antecedent to dark metal, goth, electronic dark & punk.
So was Syd Barrett. Apparently there were a lot of first punks.
@@allisonchainz82 syd was influential to art rock & electronic.... more the vein that bands like the moody blues were going into or later bowie. it was too whimsical & less assaultive to be in the punk vein.
The thing I always liked about Morrison was that he was 100% artist and 100% himself. He knew he was here to express himself and to get the music out no matter what. Not saying I'd want to live like that and in the end he pissed away so many gifts he had. I used to think he was cool as hell when I was younger, but now that Im older I just feel sad for the guy and his family. Im still fascinated by the music the Doors made.
Would loved to have seen them on a good night.
check out the Jim Morrison Mort Sahl interview
@@LoyalOpposition Thanks for sharing this..I heard this once before. Its amazing how brilliant he was and how lucid his thinking was despite all the drug abuse. He pretty much described how society has turned out.
@@ericknudten7272 You're welcome, and I'm glad you checked it out. So many people I know are so lazy and will accept anything at face value. I know a lot of people who've done some crazy stuff being drunk, but because he was popular, everyone has a story, and some I bet are manufactured. Someone in the comment section called out an obvious lie (pretending to know him, but couldn't even get the right college).
@@LoyalOpposition Interesting turn the world is taking and only gonna get way worse when AI gets rolling...most people will not have opinions of their own. Morrison nailed it when he said people just gonna have to find a way to survive it!
I’m definitely enjoying Hendrix & The Doors 😎
this is really cool. Makes me think about Keith Moon, who somehow made it past 27 to the ripe old age of 31. RIP all the young dudes
I always wished Morrison and Moon had become good friends and hung out and partied together. Imagine the classic escapades that would've ensued, and that we'd still be talking and laughing about today.
@@doorswhofanthe world may not have survived!
You didin't KNOW Jimmy. I did. He was my brother's friend, when his family lived in Arlington. He was bad. His music was good, but he was a total ingrate, and a brat! His family loved him, and he did the things he did, as a slap to his father's face. I do wish they would have lived to the ages of around 36. Long enough to have had a child, to see just how much love goes into the first 3-4 years.
While I don’t think any child has a right to disrespect any loving parent, please don’t forget that George Morrison had a hand in orchestrating the Vietnam War. If my father did something like that I think I’d be pretty pissed off.
@@desertrose1226 from what I've read, his father also treated him and sister like he was their drill sergeant while raising them. He wanted Jim to join the army. He didn't accept Jim for who he was. To a sensitive like Jim, I can't imagine how damaging that was. I'm sure Jim thought the only way forward was to cut ties.
I’ve seen interviews with Jim’s father. He was an asshole that said ‘Jim couldn’t sing, just knew to say what people wanted to hear’!
Yeah...I'd take the Doors' worst song over Crosby's entire catalog.
That's silly.😂
David Crosby is literally a LEGEND in his own right and then some 💯
@@budzlightyear2212 Well, I actually love CSN...but the point remains
@@ernestintownandjackintheco1024
C in CSN STANDS for CROSBY that should tell you something.
Do your research before you say things .
Nothing against Jim Morrison and The DOORS.
BUT BROTHER!
DAVID CROSBY is a musical genius that had a hand in many bands and many projects
@@budzlightyear2212 Yeah, I had no idea that C stood for Crosby. 😑
@@ernestintownandjackintheco1024
The C 1st for a reason........
I cannot believe you have Chris Robinson on!!! Went to a bunch of Black Crows concerts back in early 90s. Amazing! So glad they’re back out 🥰
I love the Doors.
Jim was a handful.. dude had handlers because he used to get so hammered and do wild shit. Bro was uncontrollable
He was rock n roll
Love The Black Crowes, Chris Robinson is and always has been crazy talented.
John Lydon told Chris Robinson to hold his English Beer.
@@danielbrown3461 yeah, and?
Chris Robinson was quoted as Saying....John was revolutionary in terms of what he did historicly with the pistols, but to follow that up with the greatness of Public Image Limited? And they say lightning does not strike twice.
@@danielbrown3461 I agree that Lydon is an icon regarding the timing of The Sex Pistols. I have never heard of Public Image Limited but I looked it up. If you say they were as good or better than his previous band I will take your word for it. I still say that talent to talent it's Robinson wins by an immense gap. Like you said Lydon's musical efforts were historically significant but even they have said they weren't talented, but that is what punk is about. Either way I had fun talking to you. I wish you well.
These guys are stoned immaculate.
Actually, I would say Un-immaculate.
Yes Jim was very very deep. He and the Doors really did create some of the most introspective music that opened so .many Doors to the mind. The collective mind of the young people. So we will never know what might have been .That is what is very sad. Like all those others in the 27 club. They call it that
A great Jim story was from around 1968/9 when the Stones were moving up to larger halls. Mick came round to Jim's motel room to ask him about P.A.'s etc. Jim advised him to speak to Bill Siddons.
However, one of Jim's pals (a massive Stones freak was in the bathroom shooting up). By the time he came out Jagger had gone. He took a lot of convincing that he had missed Mick.
Jim gave the guy his two Stones tickets, or so the story goes.
Jim Morrison is and always will be the number one word man, a free thinker (he had great transferable skills 😂) Many a time as a teenager I watched my friend jump on a car whilst pissed up and shout "I am the lizard king". This was in a Scunthorpe accent by the way 😂 I went to Paris in the lockdown and headed up to the Pere Lechaise Cemetery. I was quite emotional. No one else was there. I implore you to listen to An American Prayer again if you haven't for a while. Articulate, profound and abstract at the same time ❤ Lady's and gentlemen.....The Doors 🤘🏽
For fifty years The Doors have been my favorite American group. They are otherworldly. Went to Jim's grave at Pere Lachise and the flat in Paris where he died. Saw three Doors give a talk at the I.C.A. back in the 1980's. Love that band. Jim was Godhead. The Doors were the only group whose first two albums were as good as their last two. Will play The End when the sirens sound.
I went to Pere Lachaise as well. (Back in the 1990s) There were so many people who came to see his grave. Lots of graffiti.
Yes, his grave was a mess. Lots of moody nippers dressed in black wearing shades.@@maryperry1773
I visited early 90's. Lots of moody people dressed in black, wearing shades.@@maryperry1773
I loved Jim Morrison before I saw the Doors live in 1970 - and I love him still.
I loved both Morrison & Crosby for different reasons.
Jim would NEVER wear nail polish - Nuff said
I'm suing Bill for wasting 4 minutes of my life.
A good friend of mine played with Janis Joplin
They were at a party in LA. Morrison (hammered) approached Janis and told her in his slurred speech “You’re the worst singer in the world”
Janis, never one to take shit, swung her Southern Comfort bottle at his head and knocked him out cold.
Everyone at the party thanked her
Well, Jim Morrison was exactly right about her singing...
I was at that party, it was at John Davidson's house
I love the Doors and I'm only 37 lol
I love the doors and I’m 30
@@Njbear7453 I've heard of kids that like the Doors lol but they came out the same year my mom was born so even I am quite late in liking the Doors 😂
@@paulavery5889 hey, Atleast you’re a part of the club haha
@@Njbear7453 when I was 26 I asked my mom if I was gonna join the club lol
24 here
Love Jim and The Door's!!
Jim Morrison was a big fan of Brian Jones , who died July 3rd ‘69, at age 27, Jim Died July 3rd ‘71. The two of them bookend the 27 club
I've listened to their music a lot, because it was the cool thing to do -- but a lot of it was just weird. Carnivalesque organ, weird-ass lyrics, and someone famously said it "has square wheels" and "doesn't swing." But songs like Touch Me hit it right on the bulls eye.
Here's an idea for making this more watchable: either don't curse or don't bleep the curses.
There are many talented musicians out there but the spirit of rock, the attitude and the art of rock is gone. Metal especially is beyond parody. Almost everyone dresses the same. Everyone wants to shred. People only write about two things: anger and depression unless you're one of those nerdy bands who do all that fantasy dragon type stuff. That's a genre that is totally dead in the ground with only the old guard left to keep it going
I was not a Doors fan... until I read "No one here gets out alive".
At 57-years-old Chris Robinson doesn't know jack about Jim Morrison.
Great band
You cannot put Jimi Hendrix on as background music. The Doors, as much as I love them, were much more melodic generally speaking.
The doors are background music for acid trips.
That’s their audience 😂
@@alexalexalex797"Not that there's anything wrong with that"!
@@KevinORourke25 just sayin😂🤷♂️
@@alexalexalex797 Yep!
Patti Smith has a great Jim Morrison story. When she was young and broke living with Robert Mapplethorpe, she would go to Record Company parties and steal food. She went to one for The Doors when they hit New York. When she thought all the people had moved into another room, she began filling her bags. A voice piped up and said 'You should try the hamburgers they are really good'.
She looked up, and it was Jim sitting in a corner by himself. Cool or what.
Imagine if Otis Redding had lived past 26.
I'm sure as hell, his legend would ve be greater than any black person, James Brown, Tupac, Shaq, etc. The Big O was taking the world by storm commercially by the time of that fatal flight. He was just too good. Everyone who worked for him was getting paid the right amount, he never was ripped off, he was touched, did the right thing in this business and the business didnt eat him alive, but life s really a unexpected complex turn off events none has control upon, i guess.
"Poor Otis dead & gone - left me here to sing his song", Running Blues...The Doors
I remember reading the Jerry Hopkins-Danny Superman bio "No One Here Gets Out Alive" and thinking that, just as Adolf Hitler was Richard Wagner without artistic genius, Charles Manson was Jim Morrison without artistic genius.
That book is full of so much hearsay. Check out Jim's actual interviews.
@@LoyalOpposition Yeah I trust the band when they say Danny was obsessed with Jim and fabricated a lot of that book.
@@allisonchainz82 Unfortunately, too many fans never check out actual interviews, even though they're on UA-cam.
Jim on alcohol was a real asshole.
John, Robby and Ray are witnesses of this.
Danny Fields, who managed the Doors for Elektra (in addition to the Stooges, the MC5, Judy Collins, etc.), told a great story about how he basically "kidnapped" Jim Morrison and took him to his place in the Hollywood Hills to meet Nico, who Danny thought would lure him away from all the groupies Danny believed would be bad for his image. After a night of drugs and mayhem (complete with Jim Morrison jumping naked across the nearby rooftops), Danny, who originally took Jim's car keys (because he thought he was in no condition to drive) finally gave them back and Jim immediately phoned Sam Harris (Electra's Sr. VP) to say "keep Danny Fields away from me - and now I'm going to call Jac" (Holzman, Elektra's CEO). Jim was not a very nice guy.
The difference between Bill Maher with a talented team of writers and without is shocking. 3:58 of incomplete thoughts and sentences, punctuated with endless "um's, ands and like, you knows".
I can't stand Maher, but in this case it's b/c the host never shuts the fuck up.
Chris Robinson was a gentleman in his 20s. Met him several times between 1990 to 92.